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Irish Defence Forces

'Not enough being done' to implement key recommendations in landmark Defence report

PDFORRA, the group representing 6,500 enlisted members of the Army, Naval Service and Air Corps, will begin its annual delegate conference in Trim, Co Meath today.

LAST UPDATE | 9 May 2023

NOT ENOUGH IS being done to implement key recommendations twelve months after the landmark Commission on the Defence Forces report was published, a conference will hear today.

Mark Keane, President of PDFORRA, the group representing 6,500 enlisted members of the Army, Naval Service and Air Corps, speaking ahead of the group’s annual delegate conference in Trim, Co Meath said key undertakings by Government must be delivered to ensure the future of the military. 

The Commission on the Defence Forces looked at the capabilities of the Irish military and made sweeping recommendations for urgent institutional change and resourcing. This was followed then with a Government Action Plan.

Keane said that issues including the lack of certainty in contracts for non-commissioned ranks officers, resourcing, retention of staff and pay have not been solved.

He also said that the issue of bullying, sexual assault and harassment identified in the recently published Independent Review Group should be taken as an opportunity to bring positive change to the organisation. 

The first Ombudsman for the Defence Forces, Ms Paulynn Marrinane Quinn BL, will address conference delegates on Thursday morning.

It is expected that Quinn will address delegates on the history of the establishment of her office and the initial reports of the Independent Monitoring Group (IMG), which was established following the revelations of Senator Tom Cloonan in 2001.

The IMG was a body which reported back on the efforts and progress of the Irish Defence Forces following the allegations but had not issued a report from 2014 on. 

“The IRG made for stark reading everyone that has read it has been shocked by it, people are just aghast at what it says but it also needs to be remembered that the majority of the Defence Forces condemn the behaviour and believe strongly in the need to root out those who perpetrated it. 

“It is not reflective of the decent hard working people and we would encourage anyone who has suffered to come forward,” he said. 

Keane said that the key to solving the crisis in defence is to use the Commission report along with the IRG document as a benchmark to begin a major change programme. 

“We have the corner stone that is the Commission on the Defence Forces. We are willing to engage with all key stakeholders and we have built a good relationship with the Department of Defence.

“They need to take that report and use it to begin the change needed, to give a strategy of investment that will enable the organisation to meet the three Rs, recruitment, retention and remuneration. The IRG report gives us a catalogue for change.

“It affords us a chance to look back in on ourselves. If all that is dealt with they can make the Defence Forces an employer of choice but they need to start with the three basic issues and move forward from there,” he added. 

Crisis

The conference is scheduled to hear more than 55 motions on a wide variety of topics on Wednesday and Thursday, with speeches by the Minister for Defence Micheál Martin and Chief of Staff Lt Gen Seán Clancy.

PDFORRA has several motions seeking the fair and equitable introduction of the Working Time Directive and the provision of proper allowances for additional hours worked by their members.

The retention crisis in defence leads the most in the topics covered with motions seeking remedial measures to attempt to retain personnel.

The PDFORRA President said that there is a particular problem with specialists who appear to be leaving in increasing numbers.

There are a significant number of motions from the delegates representing their colleagues in the Naval Service, which has seen ships fail to put to sea due to lack of crews.

“The Minister will be fully briefed and he will listen to what is happening. He needs to take action on two key aspects: the European working time directive around working hours and a need to do something about the post 1994 contracts which will see people forced to retire ahead of time,” he added. 

51700105603_0510a441f9_o A number of motions deal with an extreme staffing crisis in the Irish Naval Service. Irish Defence Forces Irish Defence Forces

In November the The Journal revealed that a measure to increase the fitness of serving members in the 1990s saw contracts introduced forcing members to go prematurely. 

The rule means that Sergeants who have joined on post-1994 contracts must resign when they reach the age of 50.

This problem was an issue at more junior ranks and there was some agreement to solve it but Sergeant ranks are now facing mandatory retirement.

Sergeants or Petty Officers as in the Naval Service, are senior Non-Commissioned Officer rank in the military – their role is to lead teams and implement orders by officers. They are also heavily involved in training new recruits.

The Government introduced an “interim arrangement” to allow Irish Defence Forces sergeants, who would be forced to retire prematurely at the end of the year, to stay on in service – this will run until 2025.

“This needs to be dealt with – saying to people that they are extended until December 2025 is not long enough. Our people are still worried about where that leaves them. 

“They have shown huge loyalty to the State – it is time that the State repays that and at least sorts out the contract problem once and for all. 

“It is not fair that it is left dangling over their heads – they need to know and they need to know now,” he added. 

The Tánasite, Micheál Martin, speaking at the conference said that work was underway to find a solution to the mandatory retirements of non commissioned officers and other ranks. 

He said there was also work being carried out on the Patrol Duty Allowance and he had been in discussions with Pascal Donohoe, the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform.

The Chief of Staff told the conference that the temporary fix on the mandatory retirements was welcomed more work was needed. 

“While the securing of this interim agreement is of course welcomed, the Gen Staff will
continue to advocate for a permanent resolution to this ongoing issue, with a view to
retaining in service our most experienced and skilled personnel and providing them
security and clarity on their terms of employment,” he said. 

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    Mute Honeybee
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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:28 PM

    But will it be like the great snow of 1947 which my mother told me about as a child. Seemingly, it started snowing on the last Friday in February and continued into March,paralysing the country and closing roads and rail. Lakes froze over and they held dances and skating on the lakes, Snow drifts buried towns and villages and poor farm animals succumbed to the weather,schools closed and the snow stayed on the ground until May, I just remembered about ‘the great snow’ when I read the article above this morning,RIP mam.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 11:34 AM

    Where did this come from??

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    Mute Paraic
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    Mar 3rd 2019, 11:35 AM

    @Tommy C: Well it didn’t come up from the Azores.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 11:36 AM

    @Tommy C: The Sky ;)

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 11:49 AM

    @Tommy C: Don’t stand around asking questions just run and get the bread.

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    Mute Dave Barrett
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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:21 PM

    @Tommy C: sky.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 1:06 PM

    @Tommy C: was forecast since early during the week! Not a surprise!

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 11:49 AM

    Now that’s more like it.
    Proper feckin March weather.

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    Mute Adrian Mac
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    Mar 3rd 2019, 5:05 PM

    @Skipper Mac: I’ll take sunshine and dryness over cold and wet any day. Bring back last week’s weather!

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 11:58 AM

    Come on Liverpool

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    Mute Seriously stunned
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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:15 PM

    @Rodger 5: is the weather shite there to?

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:19 PM

    @Rodger 5: any Irish men on that team

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:44 PM

    @Rodger 5: Up the Dubs

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 6:21 PM

    @Fergus O’Connor: up the dubs.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:41 PM

    Sponsored by Brennans

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    Mute Catherine Winston
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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:41 PM

    But what about Global warming???
    Cold weather with heavy snow in 1947??. Imagine!!. If we actually look back at weather fore asts over the years we most likely had all kinds of weather around this time. Governments will always try to fi d ways to take our hard earned cash through taxation. Ha

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:44 PM

    @Catherine Winston: How did you manage to shoehorn a gripe about taxes into the weather?

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 2:37 PM

    @Catherine Winston: Is your keyboard working .You’re firing a few blanks there Catherine.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 3:51 PM

    @Catherine Winston: You should probably google climate change

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 3:51 PM

    @Catherine Winston: You should probably google climate change

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 4:08 PM

    @Catherine Winston: Did you not know that it was 21°c in the UK last week? In February. That’s summertime temperatures in February! And now it’s going to snow a week later and that seems normal to you!? In January in Australia, you could eat baked apples directly from the trees. And “when you look back at weather forecasts over the years”, you see a trend of global warming. “Most likely” isn’t a term scientists like to use.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:46 PM

    Heavy snow falling in Kerry

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:51 PM

    @Darcy: ah shite heading 4 Kerry tommorow mon

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 1:04 PM

    @liam ward60: good luck with that

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 2:10 PM

    @liam ward60: Buy a few sliced pans and a pound of butter an stay under the covers.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:37 PM

    Just started snowing in Clare!

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:43 PM

    @Sam Harms: oh feck sake Clare playing Limerick today

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:44 PM

    @John Waters: it’s raining too so not sticking

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:17 PM

    Glorious summer weather for two days, then back to the pits.

    Global warming already working it’s charm I see!

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 1:19 PM

    @IrishFreeThinking: I can see the daffodils in my garden looking hopeless today.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 2:33 PM

    @PC Principal:
    Fair daffodils we weep to see
    You haste away so soon
    Your comment gives new meaning to this poetry.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 3:14 PM

    @Honeybee: As a honeybee, your word is gospel in this regard.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 1:13 PM

    It was already snowing before they issued the warning!

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 1:37 PM

    Global Warming, Climate Change ???????? Gibberish
    Perfect all weather March weather.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 2:08 PM

    March of many weathers,as the old saying goes.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 1:16 PM

    Heavy snow in Tralee. Absolutely no warning of this in the last 24 hours. Yeah, climate change is nonsense!

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:16 PM

    FAKE weather reports from the journal again.very warm Sunday here in castlebar windows opened and @ 12 16 PM while its overcast here we have absolutely no rain or snow or sleet Yet

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:23 PM

    @liam ward60: Ah yeah. It’s not raining in your village therefore it’s all a lie.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:24 PM

    @liam ward60: 2pm till 8am tomorrow. Starting in the south and working northwards.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:26 PM

    @liam ward60: it’s bucketing down sleet and rain in the Burren

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:30 PM

    @An bhearna: Haha my village?

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:32 PM

    @David Walters: was also forecast yesterday sat turned out to be blue skys here till around six pm

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 12:15 PM

    But definitely not RED.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 1:14 PM

    That’s mad. It’s warmer in Rome.

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    Mar 3rd 2019, 1:02 PM

    it’s so warm for the time of year.

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