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Most women 'don't know how to start a pension' as surveys highlights gender gap

Just over one in three women have a pension, compared to over half of men.

WOMEN ARE LESS prepared for retirement than men are, according to a new survey from Standard Life.

The subject of gender pay inequality was the focus of a symposium hosted by the government earlier this week, but the gap in pensions between men and women is also pronounced according to this survey.

Reinforcing the results of a survey last year, this one found that just over one in three women own a pension (36%) compared with 55% of men.

The vast majority of women (71%) don’t know how to start a pension, while the average woman with a pension saves just €140 a month. Depending on her age, she should be saving at least double that.

Retirement age

Linked to that is that the average woman wants to retire on about €600 per week but, even when the state pension of €239 is factored in, women are saving at best half of this.

Further questions put to the 1,000 adults over the age of 18 from a variety of socio-economic groups showed that three in four women (76%) who don’t have a pension are worried about not owning one.

A vast majority of women (89%) also said they’d like help with their retirement planning.

The problem of a gap in pension planning has been flagged by government, with Taoiseach Leo Varadkar saying last year that he would introduce an auto-enrolment pension system by 2021.

Pensions was “an issue that had been long-fingered for too long”, he said.

Commenting on the survey, Standard Life spokesperson on women’s pensions, Aileen Power, told TheJournal.ie: “Female pension ownership is frighteningly low and for those that do save the amount saved is nowhere near enough for a comfortable retirement.

Women will want to continue having their sun holidays abroad city breaks, dinners out and have some fun when they retire. The average woman will be hard pressed to run a car in retirement on less than €300 per week. Where’s the fun in that?
While men will be relatively better off in retirement, on average, neither men nor women are saving enough to maintain their current lifestyles in retirement. You don’t want to get to 68 and find you can’t afford to enjoy a glass of wine or a decent night out.

Getting started

While some employers offer a workplace pension, you can also take out your own personal retirement savings account (PRSA).

Statutory body The Pensions Authority provides details of what you need to do to start up a pension, as well as a calculator of what you need to be putting away to get the pension that you want.

It says: “Saving for retirement is important. People are living longer and leading more active lives in retirement. As a result it is more important than ever for you to think about where your income will come from when you retire.

It is important for you to take control of your retirement planning and make decisions regarding your pension irrespective of your age. It is often not appreciated that membership of a pension scheme can be an extremely valuable asset.

Power added: “Our advice would be to start off by talking about pensions to your friends and family, particularly those friends who are financially savvy. Google pensions, read websites etc. Find out how much your peers are saving and consider getting some financial advice.

“If you’re a PAYE employee, your company will either have an existing occupational pension scheme that you should join asap or your employer should have a pension that you can contribute to without a matching contribution from them.”

Read: The State’s public service pension liability currently stands at €114.5 billion

Read: ‘I found myself shouting at the radio’: War of words between Doherty and O’Dea on pension motion

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    Jan 12th 2018, 6:18 AM

    I’m sorry, but this is men’s fault?

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    Mute Cent
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    Jan 12th 2018, 6:59 AM

    @Peter Brophy: talk about paranoia, there’s no suggestion of that.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:14 AM

    @Cent: there is

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    Mute Paul Coughlan
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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:39 AM

    @Cent: there is

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    Jan 12th 2018, 8:51 AM

    @Peter Brophy: Female pension planning = Find man with own house – > Marry TA DAAAAAA

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    Jan 12th 2018, 8:55 AM

    @Peter Brophy: yes Peter, everything is men’s fault, particularly white men, keep up Peter!

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    Mute Róisín Daly
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    Jan 12th 2018, 10:14 AM

    @Peter Brophy: you really read that this is men’s fault? Women with young kids are most probably in part time work/ 0 hours contracts so i am thinking thats the reason why less women have no pensions. They have less money. Plus this country would grind to a halt or could not afford to pay for all the voluntary work that is done around that country.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 11:52 AM

    @Peter Brophy: Where in the article does it say it is the fault of men?

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    Jan 12th 2018, 6:39 AM

    Noticing a trend with this website. It seems to all about dividing and polarization. Men vs women, gay vs straight, right vs left, religious vs non, etc. What a toxic ‘media’ outlet this now is. Full of propaganda with an agenda to divide opinion. Disgusting.

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    Mute the phantom
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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:23 AM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: its Standard Life who did the survey as a press release.
    The journal are only running with the story as it is pre-written and can be dished out with 5 minutes topping and tailing.
    Go easy on them.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 11:42 AM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: it’s the pc culture that is dividing society.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 12:23 PM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: I couldn’t agree with you any more. The Journal writes articles in a deliberately inflammatory manner to encouraged comments and discussion which results in more clicks and more money.
    What media outlets don’t consider or don’t care about is that reporting the news in this manner has much broader negative societal implications and in my opinion, they neglect their responsibility as a media outlet by doing this.

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    Mute Bairéid Rísteard
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    Jan 12th 2018, 3:20 PM

    @DeShawn Jersey: Absolutely, I think its time people voted with the feet (or fingers)

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    Mute Brian O'Loughlin
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    Jan 12th 2018, 6:24 AM

    Not enough detail in the survey to be taken seriously. 1000 people were surveyed, how many of those were women? If we say 500, how many of these were in there 20′s or early 30′s? Reality is people these days don’t think seriously about pensions until their mid-30s or older and that’s only after marriage, babies, houses, etc..it’s the same for men too.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 9:18 AM

    @Brian O’Loughlin: not really. All companies now provide info on pension schemes as thet have to by law. Age is irrelevant. If a 30 year old can put €40,000 into a new car the 7% tax free into a pension fund isnt that difficult

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    Jan 12th 2018, 11:59 AM

    @ChuckE: CAN a 30 year old put €40,000 into a new car?
    I think most private sector workers have small or no pensions because they cannot afford them. Most people are still put to the pin of their collar paying their mortgages, insurances, food, gas and electric bills. There’s just nothing left after tax and necessities.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:14 AM

    So most women don’t know how to start a pension according to this survey. Most women also want to start a pension according to this survey.

    Maybe this is just me, but if I want something and don’t know how to get it I research it and get it sorted. Is it really that difficult to pick up a phone or Google it?

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    Jan 12th 2018, 12:19 PM

    @Thought for Food: According to this article 71% of women are as thick as a bloody plank…

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    Jan 12th 2018, 3:02 PM

    @Thought for Food: it also doesn’t say how many men don’t know how to start a pension. Obviously men don’t matter. Also the percentage of women that have a pension and the percentage that don’t know how doesn’t add up.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 9:36 PM

    @Skim Coat: ha ha yes some of the women who don’t know have obviously been helped by their husband – come on dearie you can do this I know it’s hard but I can help you with the hard sums and you can just sign your name st the end.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 6:39 AM

    Always relate your quality of life to the ability to have a glass of wine.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 6:57 AM

    The Pensions and Insurance industry is a corporate setup designed to provide a steady stream of worker money for corporate stock marketeers to gamble with. Returns for the worker/source is of least priority, as the 2008 Crash shows. Investments may go down as well as up, but those gambling on your behalf mar ya, will never lose because they are guanteed a significant share of what you give them regardless of how the gamble goes.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:32 AM

    @245hkJ01: you choose what to invest in yourself. Over long time periods you’d have to be extremely unlucky to not make at least 4% per annum growth. If your fund charges too much then switch. Rather than moaning about it people need to take responsibility.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 8:09 PM

    @245hkJ01:
    Stick it under the mattress if you prefer but you’ll be extremely lucky if you do any better in the long run, even against a poorly performing pension fund.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 9:37 PM

    @The Guru: you don’t really choose. You choose a fund which is a fund of funds and each of those is a fund of funds. Transparent it ain’t.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:42 AM

    I think it’s a case that when you have kids, bills, mortgages etc, it is naturally to put yourself, as a woman, last. When it comes to savings, my priority is saving money for my kids education and needs. In saying that, seeing my own parents just getting by on a state pension was the kick i needed to put the minimum amount aside every month towards a pension, in the hope in a few years when im past childcare costs that i can start putting more in…! Naturally no one thinks of a pension or being old in your early 20s!!

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    Jan 12th 2018, 9:14 AM

    We had our start of year pensions meeting Tuesday morning and our boss makes everyone attend even those who don’t have one in an attempt to get all involved or into a plan. As above more than half of the females don’t have plans and when questioned on why i couldnt believe that most felt they were fine because their husbands had a pension plan. When the accounts manager explained it wouldnt be enough to live comfortably it didnt bother a single female. Not one joined the company plan which matches your own payments. In an age where men get blamed for pretty much everything cases like this lay bare the sheer lack of drive and personal responsibility from females when it comes to their own well being

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    Jan 12th 2018, 10:20 AM

    @ChuckE: that’s mad and irresponsible

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    Jan 12th 2018, 3:33 PM

    @ChuckE: Good post which explains a lot. Whether it is socialised or innate women seem to have a tendency to want to depend on men – hence the reason for the so-called earnings gap. Find a man and make him responsible for your well-being.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 6:46 AM

    Simplify it, just start saving money!

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    Jan 12th 2018, 10:23 AM

    Nobody comes into the world knowing how to provide for a pension! If you need advice or help, ffs ASK SOMEONE!

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    Jan 12th 2018, 12:15 PM

    Thank you so much for your sharing your thoughts – really appreciate it. The most shocking comment was re the women who said No to matching pension contributions because their husbands have a pension. Most men are not saving enough for one comfortable retirement let alone 2. Men and women take the matching pension contributions! We all need as much help as we can get when saving for retirement.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:20 AM

    Pension planning tends to be based on targeting an acceptable “replacement ratio” of income on retirement.
    Because women are paid less than men there is less need for them to have a pension. On average the state pension (which is the same for all) will make up a greater percentage of women’s working salary than for men.
    If women’s wages rose then this “pension’s gap” would matter more. However it is likely in that case pension saving would naturally rise also.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:41 AM

    Is the article suggesting that women are stupid that they don’t know how to arrange a pension for themselves. Can they not contact an insurance company or broker to arrange.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 8:56 AM

    @Paul Coughlan: um no… are *you* suggesting that?

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    Jan 12th 2018, 9:02 AM

    Google !

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    Jan 12th 2018, 9:10 AM

    They’re better off,unless your a high flier or a civil servant the safest place for your money is the post office, where no greedy little financier can back horses with it ,and walk away when it goes down the swanny.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 8:15 PM

    @Gerard Heery:
    What interest rates are they offering, and do you get the same tax advantages that you do with a pension fund?

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:34 PM

    This is an attempt by Standard Life to get publicity for their useless endowment-model pension schemes. If it’s any consolation to women, they have been less likely to have been the victims of these useless risky and commission and fee laden products that are inherently incapable of providing adequate pensions for ordinary folks.

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