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Planning permission refused for seven story 'build-to-rent' senior living scheme in Ringsend

Over 65 objections were lodged against the 30 unit scheme.

DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL has refused planning permission to contentious plans for a seven storey senior living ‘build to rent’ scheme for Ringsend in Dublin 4.

Over 65 objections were lodged against the 30 unit scheme including one from School Principal of St Patrick’s Girls National School in Ringsend, Anne Smith who raised child protection concerns if the scheme was to proceed.

In a two page objection lodged with Dublin City Council on behalf of the school’s Board of Management, Smith stated if planning permission is granted “residents and workmen will be able to look into our school-yard as well as into our school building – possibly taking photos and videos of our school children and staff”.

Smith stated that “this would concern us in terms of child protection or GDPR. We would not be able to stop any photos or videos being shared on social media or the Internet”.

Now, in a comprehensive refusal, the City Council has stated that the proposal constitutes overdevelopment of the site and is considered to be contrary to the Dublin City Council Development Plan.

The Council planner’s report found that the application “would result in the creation of a monolithic block that would fail to result in either a contextual or high-quality design response”.

In its formal refusal, the Council also found that the scheme will seriously injure the visual amenities of properties located within its immediate vicinity, by reasons of being visually overbearing, visually incongruous and with overshadowing impacts.

The planning authority also refused planning permission after finding that the height and scale of the development undermines the urban grain of the area.

The council stated: “The proposed development would set a precedent for similar type undesirable development and would have a detrimental impact on the value of property in the vicinity.”

The Council also refused planning permission after finding that a senior living ‘build to rent’ scheme of this scale is not appropriate having regard to the zoning of the institutional and community lands.

The local authority stated that the applicant has not adequately clarified how the proposal for a Build to Rent scheme would accord with the primary institutional and community based objectives of the lands.

In another strand to the wide-ranging refusal, the Council states that the proposed development would lead to further demand for on-street parking and would result in displacement of existing residential parking.

A planning statement lodged by the applicant’s planning consultants, Tom Phillips & Associates states that the scheme will provide accommodation for 30 professionally managed social homes for senior citizens on Dublin City Council’s housing list.

The site currently accommodates the two storey Cambridge House and Tom Phillips and Associates state “the proposed scheme provides an appropriate balance between the delivery of housing and compact growth and ensuring a sensitive response to the residential amenities of Cambridge Road.

Green Party Councillor Claire Byrne called on the Council to refuse planning permission as the scheme is completely out of character for the area and does not compliment or enhance the area in any way.

Fine Gael Councillor Danny Byrne has also called on the Council to refuse planning permission.

Local resident, Robert Mullan has stated that he objected to the grant of permission “for this monstrous proposal”.

The applicants now have the option of appealing the decision to An Bord Pleanala.

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    Mute Mickety Dee
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    Sep 23rd 2022, 11:49 PM

    Objecting to tall buildings as people could take photos of your children from on high? I’ve heard it all now. The system is broken

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    Mute Paul Gorry
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    Sep 24th 2022, 12:18 AM

    @Mickety Dee: Exactly especially the children robbing your car. The country is broken.

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    Mute Maryrose Lyons
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    Sep 23rd 2022, 11:11 PM

    So where are our old people supposed to live?

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    Mute Joe_X
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    Sep 23rd 2022, 11:20 PM

    @Maryrose Lyons: Data centres, but at least they’ll be warm!

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    Mute ÓDuibhír Abú
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    Sep 23rd 2022, 11:31 PM

    @Joe_X: Empty Convents And schools, should be turned over to the government to house all in need.

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    Mute Christine Hanway
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    Sep 23rd 2022, 11:35 PM

    @Maryrose Lyons: look into this, it was never going to be used for OAPs, the underhandedness (if thats even a word) that went on throughout this whole application Im glad to see its refusal. I dont usually side with the silly objections cause something “doesnt look right” but for all the right reasons this was refused.

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    Mute Alan Wright
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    Sep 24th 2022, 4:15 AM

    @Maryrose Lyons: Unless build-to-rent are leased out on life long affordable contracts then they should never be built. The next generation (and the current) will never be able to afford to live anywhere once they hit retirement age. It is a time bomb just waiting to happen.

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    Mute Maryrose Lyons
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    Sep 24th 2022, 8:51 AM

    @Christine Hanway: interesting. I will.

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    Mute thesaltyurchin
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    Sep 24th 2022, 10:11 AM

    @Joe_X: that’s actually a great idea.

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    Mute DK Donnelly
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    Sep 24th 2022, 12:15 AM

    You can already look into the school from the apartments across the road. We should knock them down.

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    Mute Dave Phelan
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    Sep 24th 2022, 4:49 AM

    It would have helped the article had a diagram be included to show a visual representation of the proposal. Impossible to understand the impact of the design unless you know the existing architecture and the design proposal

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    Mute Barry Evans
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    Sep 24th 2022, 1:04 PM

    @Dave Phelan: or you could look up the planning application yourself…….

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    Mute Elizabeth Dunne
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    Sep 24th 2022, 5:57 AM

    We actually need many more of these developments. They should be critical infrastructure.

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    Mute Thomas O' Donnell
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    Sep 24th 2022, 7:39 AM

    The council said “…would have a detrimental effect on the value of property in the vicinity”. That translates as “build it close to no one”. I would love to know if any of the council members or their families have property in the vicinity?

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    Mute Keth Warsaw
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    Sep 24th 2022, 1:23 AM

    Frost the School windows.

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    Mute Paul Gorry
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    Sep 24th 2022, 1:27 AM

    @Keth Warsaw: or just pull the blinds. D 4 all over it.

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    Mute Martin Matthews
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    Sep 24th 2022, 7:41 AM

    Reduce the value of houses in the area. Would that not be a good thing.

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    Mute Keth Warsaw
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    Sep 24th 2022, 1:24 AM

    D….4: CHECKMATE!

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    Mute Alan Leahy
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    Sep 24th 2022, 8:20 AM

    GDPR?

    Was the principal afraid the builders/residents were not going to store or process his/her personal data correctly?

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    Mute Rmaybe
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    Sep 24th 2022, 9:32 AM

    @Alan Leahy: yes. It says it in the article. They think all old age residents and builders are pervs and will be posting photos of the kids on social media.

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    Mute Marie Broomfield
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    Sep 24th 2022, 7:36 AM

    So the school objection was thrown into the article for a bit of fun was it or was it to make fools out of the school or was it to create a distraction from the other legitimate objections which the plan actually got refused for?Well done

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    Mute Mickety Dee
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    Sep 24th 2022, 10:01 AM

    @Marie Broomfield: In fairness, it does highlight how people will make up trivial reasons for objections when the real reason they are objecting is that they don’t want any change in their area. Nimbyism at its finest

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    Mute Dave Connolly
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    Sep 24th 2022, 7:51 AM

    NIMBY

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    Mute Claude Saulnier
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    Sep 24th 2022, 9:43 AM

    Quoting the GDPR is a bit much. The GDPR is first of all about filing systems. It is primarily a data protection law and the issue may relate more to privacy (they are 2 separate rights under the EU charter of fundamental rights).

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    Mute John Mulligan
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    Sep 24th 2022, 8:11 AM

    They should have used the Fingal Alternative Planning method.
    Build it first, and get retention.

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    Mute Tony Martin
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    Sep 24th 2022, 5:12 PM

    How are people supposed to get homes whe every proposal is turned down do the Dublin County Council not represent the people looking for somewhere to live

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    Mute Billbond4
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    Sep 24th 2022, 5:11 PM

    Ah good aude government, living in fantasy land.
    Data centers good
    High rise Appartments bad.

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