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Here are 9 examples of politicians being clueless about the internet and technology

“The internets is an amazing series of tubes that you should pay for” – elected officials.

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ELECTED OFFICIALS COME from many different backgrounds, and have diverse areas of expertise.

Which is handy, because they make law.

When it comes to technology, the internet, and social media, however, too many politicians from Ireland and beyond, seem to have a blind spot.

Despite being entrusted to make and update legislation on data protection, privacy, digital rights, cyberbullying, and other serious and rapidly-evolving issues, legislators have time and again shown their basic lack of understanding of the subject matter.

Sometimes that cluelessness is deliberately (even proudly) revealed, and other times it emerges from the scare-mongering that accompanies The Next Big Internet Terror.

Just as often, they show a worrying lack of knowledge about basic technological concepts, by trying to explain them.

Here are some of the biggest facepalm moments:

1. ‘Series of tubes’

Probably the mother of all internet gaffes. Then 82-year-old Alaska Senator Ted Stevens was (vigorously) debating net neutrality in 2006, and got excited about Netflix (though he couldn’t remember the name).

He also bemoaned the fact that his staff had sent him “an internet”, and he didn’t get it until the next day.

His speech reached a climax with this now infamous explanation:

The internet is not something that you just dump something on. It’s not a big truck – it’s a series of tubes!

And a meme was born.

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2. ‘This type of thing has to stop…’

Senator Fidelma Healy-Eames got plenty of unwanted attention last March for her “Fraping” comments.

While her understanding of the phenomenon was a bit lurid and overstated (“it’s where you’re raped on Facebook”), it’s equally worrying to see a legislator struggling with statutes around the subject they are passionately debating:

What about sexting…I heard recently that that is a criminal offence. Can you verify that, Minister?

There’s another all-too-common problem with the Senator’s logic – what exactly could legislation actually do to stop a phone being picked up, and someone using a Facebook account without permission?

Senator Healy-Eames is far from alone in this, but her “moment” is a good illustration of the troubling combination that often mars political debate about the internet: fear and misunderstanding.

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3. ‘Rumours on the internets’

You’ve probably heard “internets” used ironically so many times, that when you watch this clip of George W Bush, you’ll be convinced he’s speaking with tongue in cheek.

He’s not.

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He was answering a question about the reintroduction of the draft in the US, during a presidential debate against John Kerry in October 2004.

Bush had previously used the now-ubiquitous term “internets” back in 2000, again during a presidential debate, this time against Al Gore.

An audience member asked him what could be done to protect children from immorality in the media.

Bush replied: “We can have filters on Internets where public money is spent.”

4. ‘It’s amazing!’

In 2012, Mitt Romney – another guy trying to become the world’s most powerful person – got some stick for being a little bit too “amazed” by touch-screen technology on a campaign stop in Pennsylvania.

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A couple of things to note: the shop in question is called WaWa, not “WaWas”, so picture Enda Kenny repeatedly saying: “Have you ever been to Centras? Centras is great…”

Second, WaWa’s touch-screen ordering is really convenient, but it’s NOT amazing.

Your sandwich isn’t made by a robot, and you get it in the time it takes the human being behind the counter to make it.

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5. ‘It facilitates things enormously’

Gunther Oettinger is the European Commissioner-designate for Digital Economy and Society.

Which means he’s in charge of the EU’s policy on a number of highly-contentious and complex issues like privacy, data protection, surveillance, and corporate monopolies.

Good thing, then, that he’s such a dab hand at the old internet, himself, as he bragged in an interview with German newspaper Passauer Neue Presse, earlier this month.

I go online every day…Sometimes I even put my own appointments into the calendar using my iPhone.
When I am searching for  information, I look on the internet…It facilitates things enormously.

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All that recent celebrity photo hacking? It wouldn’t have happened to Commissioner Techbot McSavvy over here, as he previously explained - spectacularly confusing private sharing with publication, in the process.

If someone is dumb enough as a celebrity to take a nude photo of themselves and put it online, they surely can’t expect us to protect them.
I mean stupidity is something you cannot – or only partly – save people from.

He’s more right than he knows.

6. ‘Should they actually PAY to post something on the internet?’

No. No they shouldn’t.

In the same Seanad committee debate that introduced the word “Fraping” to the Oireachtas minutes, Senator Eamonn Coghlan made a novel suggestion as to how to prevent anonymous cyber-bullying.

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As well as being obviously unworkable (no bank account or passport = no internets for you), Coghlan’s proposal starts off with (again) a basic misunderstanding:

If somebody is to sign up to seek an IP address,…

Ehm…it doesn’t work like that.

7. ‘Maybe we should hire her!’

In 2011, Pennsylvania Representative Tom Marino asked Google lawyer Katherine Oyama why it was so difficult to remove pirated stuff from the internet, given the relative success of tackling child pornography.

I want to thank Google for what it did for child pornography – getting it off the website…

THE WEBSITE.

He also suggested “hiring a bunch of whizz kids”, and expressed awe at the fact that his daughter recognised a website as involving copyright infringement.

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Imagine a politician involved in financial regulation, confusing “a bank” with “the economy”, then suggesting his daughter should be hired, because she’s such a “whizz kid” that she was able to spot an insurance scam.

8. ‘Whatever that is…’

John Roberts is the most important legal and judicial figure in the United States.

As Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, he makes monumentally important decisions about all aspects of society, crime, business, politics and daily life in America.

And that includes, of course, social media and the internet.

But in this 2011 Q & A, Roberts included this little nugget (Starting at 1:50)

Different members of the court are more adept at [social media] than others.

I don’t think any of us have a Facebook page, or tweet – whatever that is…

“WHATEVER THAT IS.”

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9. ‘A particularly bad idea’

Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban has been trying to implement a tax on internet use.

Insofar as it was thought through at all, it involves charging 50 cents per gigabyte of data transferred.

Thousands of outraged Hungarians have taken to the streets to protest, just this week, and on Tuesday, the EU called it “a particularly bad idea” that “won’t work.”

Check out Commission spokesperson Ryan Heath’s diplomatic – but devastatingly comprehensive – speech on the plan.

If you’ve ever wondered how EU bureaucrats say “This is the stupidest thing I’ve every heard” – this is it:

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*Honourable mention

Whatever else you think about the Taoiseach, you have to hand it to him in this instance.

While on the campaign trail in 2011, the Fine Gael leader was caught on the spot by a mischievous journalist who asked him to explain cloud computing.

A worst nightmare for every politician touting the merits of “Digital Ireland” and showing off about their trip to Intel HQ.

In fairness to him, Enda did alright here:

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Read: Hungary is trying to tax internet use – Hungarians aren’t having it>

Celebrities who took nude photos are “dumb” – EU Commissioner>

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:06 AM

    I don’t see the problem here. I support same sex marriage 100% but it it a free country. This means we all have freedom of speech. There are no wrong opinions. It’s the priest’s choice and rights to express his point of view. He doesn’t have to conform to main stream ideology.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:12 AM

    @Tommy Chen: it is the opinion of most people that this priest is an asshat of the highest order.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:20 AM

    @Tommy Chen:
    Yes, it is a free country etc where people can hold whatever opinions they wish, however, from someone in his position within a community to be inciting such hatred so openly, it only takes one radical Christian lunatic to interpret that message in a particular way and then next we’ll have beatings and killings of homosexuals because “it’s a sin”.
    As if the Catholic Church is so sacrosanct in the first place too. It’s been a hotbed of sin over the years with child abuse, mother and baby laundries, illegal adoption, beatings etc . So not only could the priests particular ideologies be interpreted in a particular way, it’s also incredibly hypocritical for him to be condemning something while representing an organisation that has done so much worse.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:45 AM

    @Darren Anthony Corr: there’s people in every religion and every profession that did evil thongs to children. This man is entitled to his opinion. Who said anything about hatred only you .

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:45 AM

    @Jim Casey: things

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:58 AM

    @Tommy Chen:
    Free speech is fine, using your position/platform to express your opinions unbeknownst to your audience….not so ok, which is why so many walked out of the church.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 12:20 PM

    @Jim Casey:
    The article in question is relating to comments made by a catholic priest, my comment was in relation to that. Whataboutery isn’t going to work here, it also adds nothing concrete just backs up my point really.
    Nice try though.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 12:23 PM

    @Tommy Chen: I agree.

    I don’t agree with him at all, but I applaud his conviction to stand over his outdated views, despite the backlash he has brought on himself.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 10:43 AM

    Sinful?

    It’s the 21st century. No one believes that stuff any more.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 10:54 AM

    He was only reading out the rule book, problem is they don’t want you quoting the rule book back to them cause it’s bad for PR

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:20 AM

    I don’t really understand the outrage. Those are the teachings of the Catholic Church. He’s a Catholic priest. If people don’t agree with those ridiculous, outdated beliefs they shouldn’t be part of a club that requires them to hold those beliefs

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:41 AM

    @Derek Walsh Ⓥ: spreading hate he was , even the powers that be in the Catholic Church are pulling away from that kinda behaviour

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 12:05 PM

    Why all the outrage. It’s not the Catholic Church’s job to agree with the prevailing ideology. Their job is to preach Catholic teachings and beliefs. That’s what this priest was doing. That’s what I would want to hear if I went to mass.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 12:14 PM

    @Declan Dalton: the church should practice what they are preaching!!!
    Not!!

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:00 AM

    The same guy put his support behind a sexual offender instead of the victim, He’s a hateful little man and shouldn’t be given the limelight he’s getting to spew his nonsense.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:48 AM

    Odd, so many people disgusted with his comments, but still keep signing their kids up to the club. He is only reciting the long held views of his club, especially the leaders of it.

    Yes, it is hateful, but you are happy enough to follow them so your kids can get a lovely day out whilst parents flash the largesse.

    Hypocrisy on all sides.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:15 AM

    He can take his backwards views and opinions and do one. People like that are a relic of the past and that’s where they belong in the past.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:33 AM

    It used to be married couples who were told everything they did between the sheets was a sin. Now it’s same sex couples getting the “it’s a sin” treatment. I wish they’d just leave consenting adults to do as they please and concentrate their wrath on the real evil of sexual predators who prey on innocent children and shout about how sinful that is from the pulpit.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:00 AM

    Selective reading and selective interpretation of the bible is the seed for disturbing individuals.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:18 AM

    If the church has rules I think that’s fair enough and you either decide to follow the rules or not! But I think that it’s hilarious that the church can’t respect their own rules! Same-sex couples can’t marry in a church but heterosexual couples who are not allowed to have sex before marriage can get married in a church and even bring along their kids as proof that they did indeed have sex and have them even participate in the ceremony as flower girls etc. The church are a joke.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 12:24 PM

    No mention of child sex abuse being a sin.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:58 AM

    You’d be worried by those lads who think they have a direct line…..

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:39 AM

    He should be sacked from his job…

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 12:26 PM

    A belief system is something you can be almost be garanteed to be wrong about, unless it is backed up with an evidence based system.

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 12:20 PM

    Is sex with oneself a sin ?

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    Nov 2nd 2022, 11:33 AM

    Only because its been reported do I know about the comments and I care less about it if I never heard about it

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