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The Daily PollPHOENIX CHILDREN’S HEALTH is supposed to be the name of the new children’s hospital in Dublin – and when this was announced, not everyone was happy about it.
This week, it emerged that the name was also causing a kerfuffle abroad, due to the fact there is already an Arizona hospital with a similar name.
The Irish Times reported that the hospital warned in a letter to Simon Harris that it will be compelled to take legal action if the name isn’t changed.
However, a spokesperson for the group in Dublin said that it was agreed that the two hospitals would work collaboratively and make sure both logos were distinctive.
But should the name still be changed?
What do you think: Should we change the name of the children’s hospital due to legal threats?
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Is there a particular issue with it just being called The Childrens Hospital?
@niall: Not Corporate Buzzword-y enough. You’ll never sell off something that sounds socialist.
@niall:
National Children’s Hospital would make privatisation more difficult. FG intend to privatise the Health Service and the word National does not and will not be considered. The hidden agenda is there for all to see.
@niall: hard justify a consultancy firm charging a small fortune to come up with a name if they use the one it has already.
@Christy Nolan: The quicker we get RID of All main ‘Infiltrated’ Globalist parties, the Better. Phoenix ‘rising’…. to fan out the ‘Tree of Life’.. No Mistake here, illuminati symbolic name from A to Z, via our PAWN Government.
For God’s sake, what is wrong with The National Children ‘s Hospital?
@Joe Bloggs: They can argue there would be confusion in international medical journals, reports and patient transfers. They would not be laughed out of court. If hospitals did not communicate or compete with each other it would not prove an issue, but they do.
@Joe Bloggs: the US hospital is a business.
@Andy K: absolutely nothing wrong with sticking a comma Dublin or comma Arizona at the end to differentiate. Seems like a pretty ridiculous issue to be honest…
Why not the National Children’s Hospital?
@Buckley Pat: that is temple street
@Buckley Pat: Whats wrong with The Leo Varadkar, Fine Gael, keep the recovery going Children’s Hospital.
@Dot Com: OR, The SF,loony left ,hospital,has a nice ring to it
@Stephen Brady: temple street and crumlin will be gone if the new one opens.
it will confuse people so much they wont know whether to get directions to the one in ireland or the one in usa so easily mixed up cause they are so close together
@Karl Charlie O’Reilly:
Imagine ending up in Arizona to see a sick relative when you should really be in Dublin.
Something similar happened to me once when I had arranged to meet someone in Virginia. I had just landed in the US when I got a call for the guy saying that he had arrived in Co. Cavan
@Tweety McTweeter: Something similar happened to me when I was flying to London , I ended up in England and not Ontario , Canada ,
@Karl Charlie O’Reilly: Can you imagine leaving Roscommon or Louth and Google maps or the sat nav insist that you go to Shannon airport
@Tweety McTweeter: happened to me once when I arranged a rendezvous in Paris, i just touched down in Texas…
@Jackie Carvill Caruana: are you sure it wasn’t Hilton
@Jackie Carvill Caruana: Did you there’s a town land in Valentia island called Paris!
First thing anyone, who is thinking of launching a new brand name, would do is Google it and make sure it doesn’t already exist.
@Tedser: The mandarins never think of the obvious.
It’s in the wrong location, so they may as well go all in and give it the wrong name to boot.
@Elma Phudd:
Tis FG we are talking about. Anything is possible.
Let’s start with getting the location right then worry about the name
Phoenix – risen from the ashes ? Hardly a good name for a children’s hospital. More likely a financial institution. Please authorities do some more research before picking a name !
The name of a hospital should identify where that hospital is located. Psychologically it allows a hospital become a part of the landscape & makes it easier for the public to identify & assimilate it as theirs.
Also, hospitals are a part of a global stage. From an academic standpoint, hospitals are referenced in research & presentations. You want to make your institute instantly recognizable so everyone knows where that “latest article” is from.
Most of the world’s most respected pediatric hospitals are named after the city they are located in. Boston Children’s Hospital. Toronto Hospital for Sick Kids. The Royal Children’s Hospital Melbourne. Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.
Let’s just let common sense, and international standards, prevail & call it “Dublin Children’s Hospital”.
@Jofy: what about Ireland children hospital even.
@john-Doe: Sure.
@Jofy:
Because Ireland is so small the National Children’s Hospital is adequate . Whereas in America with its vast cities it makes sense to call the hospital after the city that it is located in.
A compromise might be The National Children’s Hospital Dublin. NCHD
@Aine O Connor: Or the National Children’s Hospital of Ireland. We already have a National Children’s Hospital amalgamated with the Adelaide and Meath in Tallaght.
Shamelessly stolen from a post on twitter and when I find it I’ll credit it!
“Why not name it after a former Minister for Health like Erskine Childers.
The Childers Hospital”
Brilliant, will nobody think of the childer?
change the name end of story..it shouldn’t take a threat of legal action to change such a terrible name for a childrens hospital
We should never have given the hospital that name
@Tony Hartigan: it’s a good name for a crematorium..echoes of death. Not so much for a hospital.
Already a Phoenix care centre on the north circular just a couple of miles up the road.
@Robot: you’d think they’d remember considering the minister of the time and the hse bigwigs in tow got stuck in the lift at the opening.
@Robot:
There is another one in the TV Soap Fair City. The Phoenix Way. LOL
@Aine O Connor: Emmet and the Grewp will sue!
Ospidéal leanaí na h-Eireann – with a translation Children’s Hospital of Ireland. Kein Problem mehr. Next question, please.
@Garreth Byrne: it also translates as Hospital of Irish Kids – that would cause a few ripples…
@John Considine: There’d be Gaels of laughter among the Gaelgoiri, ceapaim.
@John Considine: On further reflection ‘na h-Eireann’ is the genitive case meaning ‘of Ireland’, and ‘Ospidéal leanaí’ means ‘children’s hospital’. The word ‘leanaí’ being the plural of ‘leanbh’ is attached to ‘Ospidéal’, not to the genitive ‘na h-Eireann’; so I think my Gaelic title is idiomatic and unambiguous. Hoffentlich.
Hospy Mc Hospitalface?
I can sense some highly paid consultants being hired to figure out this difficult problem.
@Dave Thomas: Probably the same ones who were highly paid to come up with ‘Phoenix’ to begin with.
The National Children’s Hospital Dublin. NCHD.
Perfect.
Never mind changing the name, it’s the location needs changing.
Or just because it a meaningless name. I’ve an idea … the National Children’s Hospital
The Children’s Hospital. Please get it built it going on long enough
It should be called…”The National Children’s Hospital, built in the wrong location”
We should change it because it’s a 5hite name.
Glad to see the HSE has its priorities in order.
@Austin Rock: I think this one was down to the Minister.
It was a stupid name anyway . The National Children’s Hospital is plain and simple. It does what it says on the tin.
Yes let’s spend another few million on finding a name that no other medical institution in the world has ever used. Sounds like perfectly good use of taxpayers’ money, just like the farce that has preceded it for the past decade or so.
Well every other aspect of it has been a total disaster, so no surprise that they cannot even get a name right !
I would love to see the legal correspondence to see the basis for their arguments. The real fun will start when the taxi drivers who depend on satnav and whose device is out of date search for Phoenix Hospital…
Just build it! The name will sort itself out in due course
Sounds more like a Dennis o’b company in the isle of man or something
Ya to the bord gais national children’s hospital
They could call it the Dublin Childrens Hospital, perhaps someday there will be other childrens hospitals in Cork, Belfast etc.
Dustin’s hospital, Bosco’s hospital, aand I’m stuck for one for Cork.
Change the name and the location.
Why not call it National Children’s Hospital Ireland. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Never mind the name , it should be moved
No. We should change it because it’s a stupid name.
no, we like to drag thing out in court at our expense.
Change the location first!
How about building it and completing the project FFS
Skip,
Don’t waste more tax payers money on legal eagles.
Since when Arizona is in Ireland?
If there is St Paul’s hospital in Italy why can’t be in Ireland?
Since when hospital naming convention has to be unique around the world?
What about The Billion Euro Children’s Hospital.
In years to come the future generations will know how wasteful our GOVERNMENT’S were
Simon Harris’ Institution for Therapy Treatment and Effective Recovery (S.H.I.T.T.E.
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Happy Hospital for Ireland’s Children (HHFIC)
The Lynn’s and Needles National Children’s Hospital ,
You can call the hospital any name the children and parents waiting for it to be built won’t care they
Trying to get the best possible care for their sick name irrelevant
change the location, fcuk the name
The Bertie Ahern’s Childrens Hospital.
Stupid name anyway.
@Eric De Red: And a stupid location.
Change it from Phoenix to Pheonix. Sorted!
Biggest load of bullshit ever….. NCH is on all the hoarding around the building site. Some overpaid dickbrain decides it would be a great idea to name the hospital something completely different and we’re into legal issues…. It could only happen in this country.
Changed yes ,not for legal reasons but because it was such a ridiculous choice of name.
Its a bloody stupid name anyway. Like Pheonix Night!
I’d change it because its a shite name
It looks like 68% are pussies
Why would two buildings 1000s of mile apart having the same name be an issue? Really; its not like UPS or DHL are going the get confused – one is in a Wet country and the other has red/white and blue flags plastered everywhere.
Since when did they own the copyright to the word Phoenix?
I think we should concentrate on slightly more pressing issues. Like keeping MRSA at bay.
Why not Phoenix Park Hospital
@Triona Muprhy: Probably have a rake of doggers parked outside every evening
We should change the name of the children’s hospital regardless. It is not suitable at all. We should remember Dr. Kathleen Lynn who did Trojan work for Dublin’s children and call hospital in her honour.
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