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What the Journal has chosen not to report on is the picture emerging from the inquiry is one of ineptitude by the Police command, from the negotiations, there where none, to the type of weapon and ammunition used. The Army’s elite anti terrorist unit 4RAR made a submission stating that for close quarter combat and hostage retrieval use of a large Assault rifle using 5.62 ammunition was totally inappropriate, as demonstrated by the outcome, had they been called in they would have used the smaller MP5′s using 9mm which are specifically designed for the purpose.

Didn’t that guy shoot himself in the head?

@ Jason

He shot himself, in his own head.

Ok I wasn’t keeping up-to-date on those events so thanks for clearing that up.

It still doesn’t change the fact that he died while involved in a Garda pursuit and that the ombudsman began their investigation immediately.

Jason, are you saying, the guards actions somehow contributed to this sc*umbags death.

He was involved in an incident with the Guards and died in said incident. Of course the involvement of the Guards contributed to his death but the investigation will show to what extent.

He made a conscious decision to kill himself to avoid capture.
The end.

Yes but the guards were still involved in the situation. Is that hard to get your head around?

“to avoid capture.”

You just said it yourself. No immediate threat of capture means no suicide, ergo the Guards contributed to his death.

“No immediate threat of capture means no suicide, ergo the Guards contributed to his death.”

Can anyone decipher this utter waffle?

“Can anyone decipher this utter waffle?”

I’ll translate it for you. You denied that the Guards had any involvement either directly or indirectly and then said he killed himself to avoid capture by the Guards. I’m basically saying you’re contradicting yourself.

My comment was pretty easy to understand.

Jason, only 1 hour ago you thought he was killed by armed gardai.
You didn’t even read the story and you go as if you were an eyewitness at the scene or have inside information.
You get 1st prize for the most patronising poster on this site.

“You didn’t even read the story and you go as if you were an eyewitness at the scene or have inside information.”

By your own admission, he killed himself to avoid capture even though you said his death was in no way related to the Guards.

I could admit I was wrong, it seems you on the other hand have an issue with this and resort to insults rather than admit you’re wrong on this.

“even though you said his death was in no way related to the Guards.”

Quote the post where i said this.

“Jason, are you saying, the guards actions somehow contributed to this sc*umbags death.`
`He made a conscious decision to kill himself to avoid capture.
The end.”

What other meaning could possibly be interpreted from these two follow-on comments?

“It’s understood that the driver pointed his gun at uniformed gardaí for them to get back when he got out of the car and that they were unarmed and RETREATED.
He then walked over to a grass verge and a gunshot was heard.”

The Gardai retreated, he could have ran but he didn’t. He chose of his own free will to put a gun to his head and pull the trigger.
So no, the gardai doing their job did not in fact “contribute” to his suicide.
You make it out like the two unarmed Gardai should carry some responsibility for this mans suicide, they absolutely should not.

Jason, ignore these dopes. I understand what you mean. They are only trolling

@Jason, perhaps his own involvement contributed to his death. Perhaps if the woman he had taken hostage hadn’t run into two unarmed Gardaí she might not be alive. Perhaps if the two unarmed Gardaí hadn’t became suspicious of that woman’s injuries and investigated, she may in fact be no lying in a shallow grave in the Dublin mountains. Perhaps this man had already decided on his fate long before the Gardaí became involved. Perhaps you expect Gardaí not to do their jobs. Perhaps GSOC will find that the Gardaí did not contribute in any way to this man’s death as a result of a self inflicted gun shot and retreated to a safe distance when they, unarmed, were threatened with a gun. Perhaps you might keep up to speed and get your facts in order. Perhaps.

Your point being…?

“Crazy “.

That’s the point I think.

Jeremy Gormly = 166 or 13

Katrina 74 or 11 Dawson = 76 or 13

Source of article “Rick Rycroft” = 146 or 11

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=Rick+Rycroft

The Guru_ Your point being…?

The encoded occult numerology in this story makes it out to be a load of cr*p (False Flag)

Frank you’re aware that the headbanger who took these people captive was a big fan of numerology.

Charles Rex_A high profile crisis actor would certainly know all about numerology.

# There is power in those numbers,

You’d be better advised to get some sleep and eat a healthy breakfast. The world must be a cauldron of deceit and suspicion to you.

I wish someone would ban Frank from the Journal. He is clearly unhinged.

Frank, there are five letters in your name – if we drop the even numbers that leaves three letters, the middle one of which is the third letter. Add the two threes and you have a six – the number of the beast. Spooky…
But there’s more – F A and K are the 6th, 1st and 11th letters of the alphabet:
6+1=7
7×11=77, the unholy number! Alarm bells now…
Take the letters we dropped, the R and the N: Counting backwards (Satan’s way) from the end of the alphabet they’re the 9th and 13 letters.
9+13=22
22+11(for the K) = 33!
3+3=6!
6+1=7!

Satan’s numbers are all over your name lad – that must make you the antichrist (or something like that)….

Kitty, he was banned already but keeps making new accounts to come back with.

No point in banning him, he is entitled to his point. However he regularly resorts to hate speech, such as the accusations of actors, in tragedies, these comments should be censored due to their effect on the families of those involved

To be fair, his accusations that the Sandy Hook massacre among many others were fake could get the Journal in trouble if the wrong person reads those opinions in an open public forum.

He hasn’t been banned for his unique outlook on life and mathematics, more that some of his comments have caused offence in the past especially when he’s been challenged on his points.

Kitty Prendergast_ Numerology can be like a red rag to a bull.

Christine Lagarde of the IMF certainly approves of it.

Did I step on your toes?

http://truthstreammedia.com/is-imf-chief-christine-lagarde-delivering-an-occult-message-in-this-speech/

Although “anti-semitic” is definitely an overused phrase, I’d argue that the Iranian anti-semitic propaganda cartoons (that Frank loves to link to) and their portrayal of jews is eerily similar to 1930′s nazi propaganda and is a far more valid reason to be banned than numerology/false flags etc..
ps. I’m waiting to be labelled as a z1onist/NWO shill for saying that!

Jason Culligan_Banning individuals for questing obvious discrepancies in a mainstream media news stories would be known as CENSORSHIP.

I guess you approve of censorship since you openly support a government that hires terrorists to carry out its proxy wars in the middle east.

Avina Laaf_ Is another individual that throws in the antisemitic trump card when one addresses Israel’s war crimes.

Frank you are quite capable of lying to twist whatever point you are trying to prove or coming up with some new theory after your first one is proven beyond doubt

Frank, whatever way you look at it, some of the cartoons you post which portray jews as caricatured hook-nosed demons complete with horns, blood drenched fangs and claws are anti-semitic.
As I said before, they’re remarkably similar to 1930′s nazi anti-jewish cartoons, or closer to home how the Irish were portrayed in british magazines in the 1800′s.
For the record I am not, never have been and never will be jewish or Israeli.

Avina Laaf_The Sydney Morning Herald posted a cartoon with a hooked nosed Jew.

Would you consider its cartoonist “antisemitic”

http://s4.postimg.org/wezkz1jrh/smhhyp.jpg

Harretz published a very good article on the subject of cartoon hypocrisy.

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.638243

Frank, any kind of stereotyping is wrong (as we should know only too well) but the kind of cartoons you sometimes post are distasteful and misguided at best, and hate-filled, racist and downright dangerous at worst.

Avina Laaf_All those cartoons that I post are in relation to political Zi0nism and its war crimes.

I guess you just do not want to see political satire exposing Israels war crimes. I bet you would have absolutely no problem with the media publishing Charlie Hebdo cartoons that would insult Islam.

You can’t have your cake and eat it too..

Frank I have no problem with political satire and I have no problem with Israeli war crimes being exposed.
Some of your cartoons are verging on incitement to race hatred though, and as we saw in the 1930′s that is a very very dangerous path to go down.

Avina Laaf_ I see that from a different angle.. The former oppressed are now fast becoming the oppressors.

This was made clear after last summer with the pure unrestrained brutality that was demonstrated to the world in GAZA and no doubt we will see more of it in the coming days after what happened in Golan. There is also an election on the horizon and unfortunately usually means bloodshed.

All I can see here is 2 cats talking to each other.

That may well all be true Frank, but that’s still no excuse to portray an entire race of people as child-eating devil’s.

Avina Laaf_ I make it clear that it is Political Zi0nism that I point the finger at..

The same engine that caused the unrelentlessness Genocide of 2100 including 500 children in GAZA last Summer. The same engine that pulls the ropes on the US Government to carry out proxy regime changing battles in the Middle east including the attempted overthrowing of the Syrian Government. (with Iran next in the crosshairs)..

You know damn well who I am pointing the finger at and don’t try to throw the antisemitic card at me.,

Well if that’s true you need to pick your cartoons more carefully Frank, as some of them have stereotyped jews as an entire race of child-eating devils – if that’s not anti-semitic you tell me what is?? That, coupled with your continued insistence that jews created and released ebola tells me all I need to know about your attitudes.

Avina Laaf_I still think you are a hypocrite. You have no problems with cartoons depicting insults to Islam through Charlie Hebdo Je Suis Charlie stuff yet you deplore cartoons that hit out at political Zi0nism. If the Cartoons is offensive to Jewish people it would be removed from the forums that they are posted in. All the cartoons that I post are aimed at exposing political Zionism which is the extreme opposite poles of a magnet to Judaism

The Numbers certainly tell us quite a lot about Ebola and HIV AIDS for that matter and where it all comes from. You trip over the number 33 in all of them. 33 is written over quite a lot of other things including ALL these recent false flags.

Frank, I’m not sure whether you’re deliberately trying to miss the point at this stage. I have no problem with any satirical cartoon, especially not with one that satirises mohammed, god, buddha, jesus or anybody else. Most of your linked cartoons fall into this category.

I have a huge problem though with propaganda cartoons that deliberately set out to portray an entire race (whoever they are) as some kind of sub-humans. Such cartoons are a clear encitement to racial hatred and history has told us that this type of stereotyping can be very, very dangerous. Iran is currently pumping out such propaganda cartoons aimed at demonising jews in this way, and you have sometimes linked to them.

I’m not even going to enter into a discussion with you about numerology – you think its an accurate predictor of world events, I think its a load of claptrap, lets just leave it at that.

Again, assuming the marksman had a clear line of site to the shooter!

Robert, the police tried to take him out with a marksman but they couldn’t achieve this. Monis had lined up hostages in the windows and rotated them on a regular basis to make sure that snipers couldn’t take him out through a window without hitting a civilian in the process.

Fair enough Jason. If it wasn’t possible then it wasn’t possible, however he did have enough of a view to see what happened despite the human shields.

Yes I am making assumptions but based on reading the article and the detail the sniper described how it transpired they are reasonable assumptions.

Thanks Lisa that’s a perfectly reasonable answer as to why a sniper couldn’t take him out. Much better than the excuses suggested by others which don’t make sense.
Namely that they didn’t have sight of him, which would be incompotent of the sniper teams or that the human shield was a barrier even though the sniper clearly described what happened.

Frank, what’s the number for tosser?

What’s the number for loser

Brian Flynn_ The English Gematria for Tosser is 576

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=+tosser

Now look up the value for Freemason…

men in black hoods_ You might also find that one in a mirror.