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Poll: Should there be a free vote on the Dáil X Case motion?
The Dáil will tonight start debating a Sinn Féin motion to legislate for the X Case. Government TDs have been told they must not vote in favour of it, even if they privately support it. What do you think – should TDs be allowed to vote freely?
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THE DÁIL WILL tonight start debating a motion to legislate for the X Case which is being proposed by Sinn Féin TDs.
The motion is contentious: a number of government TDs – mostly in the Labour party – have been very vocal about the need for X Case legislation following recent events. However coalition party leaders have made it clear that all TDs will be expected to vote against the motion, despite what their personal beliefs may be, because it is being put forward by an opposition party.
The government has said that it is likely to consider whether legislation for the X Case is necessary early next year.
So we’re asking: Should TDs be allowed to vote freely on the Sinn Féin motion to introduce legislation for the X Case?
Poll Results:
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No (764)
Don't know/Not sure (136)
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Dermot people like you make me sick, shouting angry questions with zero interest in the facts.
He doesn’t know because he wasn’t there. He wasn’t in the room when the decisions were made. He was a university lecturer and doing economics research. He can’t just make things up so it looks like he knows everything. He isn’t Pearse doherty.
If you want to have a witch trial then go right ahead. But nothing useful will come out of it.
Spot on Verge – Patrick Honohan is actually one of the good guys and if he was at the helm as regulator at the time instead of Paddy Neary this whole debacle would probably never have happened in the first place.
You wouldn’t think it though looking at the way he gets lambasted on here by commenters who’s power of thought seems incapable of extending beyond the “banker = w*nker” mantra….
The most significant news this week is the trillion odd quantitative easing announces by the Ecb. Would be good to have an article on who benefits from that….my guess free dosh for the financial industry and no help to joe soap. The bankers were licking their lips with that announcement from Dragi
QE does indeed tend to disproportionately benefit the wealthy, but its notable that the EU (and the Germans in particular) have been extremely reluctant to introduce any form of QE, so I don’t think there’s any conspiracy here.
I agree about Paddy Neary – he should certainly appear at the banking enquiry, as the one person who is probably more culpable than any other single individual for the banking debacle.
Greg, as far as I know Neary will be appearing at the inquiry. However, he will claim he didn’t know, wasn’t told by those below him and, or, can’t remember!
If they had done it at that time the benefits would have been more equitably shared.
Now, printing one trillion Euro is a balance sheet mop up.
Fraudulent conversion at its best.
Randy ,Best comment ,and no one was responsible,,it will go on and on ,and the ordinary people will pay for this shite as well as the economic ruin of the country for many years
Wow, its just like in the Dail. Sinn Fein asking hard questions to the people in power and getting a load of waffle and misdirection instead of answers.
Wow it’s just like the Dail, Sinn fein grandstanding and acting like idiots and their low information supporters eating it up.
Honahan wasn’t the central bank governor when the decisions were taken. He had a much more interesting and fulfilling job doing economic research and lecturing. Then out of sense of public duty he takes a tough job when they decide they needed someone qualified and people want to use him as a pinata for decisions he didn’t make
Julian, we need to hear from patrick neary and others who were there. Neary will know the most about this I imagine, he was after all the banking regulator at the time.
Pearse Doherty is a man who was put in charge of Sinn Fein’s economic policy as he was the only one in the party who could still remember his 12 times multiplication tables from school.
And the corruption cover up continues , by The Central Bank , The Bankers , The then and now, Irish Government and The European Union itself .
Extraordinary times which we are living
in Folks !!!
Now, now Sammy….people can click on the link and see I was pulling figures from the other link that you provided….lol.
But that’s not surprising as you believe “The Irish Independent is the closest thing to an unbiased paper we have”……lol. http://www.thejournal.ie/independent-newspaper-cover-of-the-year-1985319-Mar2015/ …lol …let me guess your favourite unbiased TV channel is unbiased Fox News….lol.
If Pearse Doherty threw eggs at Honohan, half the neaderthals on this site would applaud him ‘fair play to Sinn Fein for doing something’ they’d say, ‘they’re the only ones standing up for the people’
Who allowed them to become overpriced and who said that there would be a soft-landing ?
They are the people that are going to pay the ultimate price in a few months as more details and names of off-shore accounts becomes public from Europe through the internet !
It seems the banking inquiry has been timed to distract from the eviction push – so Enda can hold up his hands and look as if he is trying !
Poor Enda – he has chosen a very bad end for himself !
Sammy, I think you give Doherty too much credit. If we actually put him on the spot and asked him to recite the 12 times tables, what are the odds he’d get it right?
Honohan graduated with a B.A. in Economics and Mathematics at University College Dublin in 1971 and received an M.A. from the same institution in 1973. From the London School of Economics he received an M.Sc. in Econometrics and Mathematical Economics (1974) and a PhD (1978). Doherty has a national certificate but he is entitled to a British passport because he was born in Scotland.
Dohertys qualifications are unimportant, he is an elected representative and is entitled to question a public servant (Honohan). Honohans CV is impressive, except for when he was garret Fitzgeralds economic advisor in the 80′s, no wonder he needed a second turn. Bill Black’s testimony is the only one worth a damn so far. I’m no Shinner btw but Blueshirt snobs turn my stomach
London Economics you say – and those ebing mentioned in the Anglo tapes …
The real question for me from all of this is how did a Merrill lynch banker know that Brian Cowen would loose his job – when it wasn’t anything to do with him !
The House of Windsor raises its ugly head again on the island !
Whether people get frustrated or not is quite irrelevant. It is good the be asking tough questions which need to be asked. If the answer is I dont know I wasn’t there o.k. then bring in someone who was there no?
Gregory – I admire the fact that there is some effort – but we have sat through countless piss-poor inquiries etc. with no one held to book and the legals making a fortune out of the national debt !
It is whataboutery once the Anglo boys got community service and heading the country in a direction that those who robbed the place blind don’t think can happen but will because of what I would term a cover-up !
you can only feel sorry for him having to deal with a numpty like doherty. shiners are desperately trying to cause any controversy to remove focus for the brutal rape of children that SF has know about for a long time and done absolutely nothing about. have they any morals at all?
I thought Arthur Morgans letter showed that SF did deal with it as you would expect them to. The journal is chosing not to cover that. There is no issue here other than political point scoring by the usual suspects.
cold war kid, your choice of words was quite telling when you wrote: ‘SF did deal with it as you would expect them to.’ Yes, SF/IRA dealt with it in the manner that most rational, non-brainwashed SF/IRA cultists expected them to; Gerry Adams reluctantly admitted on the 6.01 News today that he knew in 2009 about Paudie McGahon’s ordeal, and the identity of the IRA man who raped Paudie when he was 17 – and I say ‘reluctantly’ because Bryan Dobson had to drag it out of him after Gerry tried to deflect the question. Also, on the same programme, they showed a snippet of an interview with Mairia Cahill where she said that the same IRA man who raped Paudie, is from a very influential IRA family in Belfast, and, she said that this same family are ‘currently’ linked to the IRA.
Sinn Fein IRA are taking after their new Syrzia friends from Greece, including in fashion. And im not being smart with this comment, they really literally are trying to copy the Syrzia playbook for taking power. Scary times.
Hermes – The fact that you wrote your comment at 3am on a Wednesday night says a lot about what social class you come…
Im not scared for me, no. Im scared for this country if SInn Fein IRA get any sort of power. This country would be devastated, the multinationals would leave. We’d be a perfect Sinn Fein IRA paradise, a country of dodgy dealers and mafia-style politics. These dodgy socialist nordies need to be rounded up and locked up.
Maybe Paul Williams might like to ‘investigate’ Patrick Honohan on what he does and does not know about the banking criminals that crippled our country,that is providing Paul Williams is not to busy and he would’nt mind ‘investigating’ his Political Elite friends !
And another round of mutual back slapping from the FG cheerleaders, while the corruption of the banks and the cowardly actions of a government that has beggared the ordinary people of this country is being investigated.
Ordinary people are smarter than that. You really need to give people some credit for their ability to adapt to new circumstances. They’re not vegetables.
Sinn Fein IRA are now questioning our politicians and bankers. How things change.. They need to be locked up, the lot of them. Dangerous socialist peasents. Dodgy, dodgy dodgy nordies coming down here with their mafia style “politics”.
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