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Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams Sam Boal/Photocall Ireland

Poll: Will you vote for Sinn Féin in the next general election?

Taoiseach Enda Kenny lashed out at the party yesterday.

TAOISEACH ENDA KENNY tipped his toe into some pre-election rhetoric yesterday, advising people to ‘reflect very carefully’ on a vote for Sinn Féin.

Kenny said the party would ‘wreck’ the economy, but said that the choice will be ‘between Fine Gael and a group, possibly led by Sinn Féin’ come the results of the general election.

Sinn Féin has never held a majority, but is performing strongly polls and gained dozens of seats in the local elections.

We want to know what you think: Will you vote for Sinn Féin in the next general election?


Poll Results:

Yes (14658)
No (13413)
I'm 'reflecting very carefully' (1929)
I don't know (1012)

Read: Kenny – SF would ‘absolutely wreck’ economy. Adams – Resign and ‘let the people decide’ >

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    Mute Anne Marie Devlin
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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:58 AM

    Im convinced that enda and Joan are secretly running the sf election campaign. They’ve done more to raise their profile than any pr ‘guru’.

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    Mute John Flynn
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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:37 AM

    Couldn’t agree more. They are two of the most unpopular people in the country at the moment, the more they keep harping on about SF, the more Sfs popularity rises. Really makes you wonder who does the hiring for consultants with this government #shams

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    Mute david dickson
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:13 AM

    At the moment the poll is at 39% to SF. That would be a great majority against all the others. Election now please.

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    Mute David Conroy
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:15 AM

    Yawn !!!!!!

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:22 AM

    late night david?

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:27 AM

    One of the biggest spends in Ireland is the “drug war” and the monies that go into the black market to purchase said drugs.
    Logic suggests that the approach by the authorities is not only not working but that it is also if anything failing….. Logic and history also prove that regulation is a better way forward……
    The points above are open to debate but what isn’t open to debate is the following fact that shows how disconnected the current Dail is from the people.
    Fact 1 – a survey showed that 40% of the population were in favour of regulation at the time when Ming brought in his bill….
    9 T.D.s voted for it …. that’s less than 7% of the Dail …..

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    Mute William Grogan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:31 AM

    What is it with The Journal that it attracts so many Sinners?

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    Mute Jim Hartnett
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:43 AM

    Sinners William? Either it’s some Freudian slip of the finger on your keypad or you are simply careless.

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    Mute Pa McGarry
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:44 AM

    William…. The Shinner TDs have sent them here via their facebook pages…

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    Mute Conn Rogers
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:50 AM

    Good point, Dermot. A lot of money to be made for the exchequer if they regulated too. It would probably cover the costs of these idiots blunders thus far and then some

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    Mute Gill B
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:57 AM

    War on Drugs, Evidence based failure, as Bill Clinton stated ‘As long there is a demand, there will always be a supply’
    North Inner City Justice budget 35million per yr.
    North Inner City has not got 1 residential bed for treatment/detox drugs.
    But sure if we redirected even 10% money waisted by justice system to treatment/detox services surely crime rate would drop.
    But there no money to be made from treating addictions, were do solicitors, barristers, Judges, prison officers, probation services get paid if we are helping people. So we continue to waist millions justice system, convicting & locking up the chronic addicts & big guys at top never get touched, sure there playing active role laundering their millions through property development, banks etc

    Vicious cycle never ends, us the Tax payer foots the bill !

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    Mute PSOB
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:00 PM

    SF has recognised this State and the democratic will of the Irish people since 1998. The PIRA has not killed anyone for around a decade. That’s ages ago. They deserve their chance.

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    Mute William Grogan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:19 PM

    Why would anyone who killed people for 30 years instead of engaging in politics and was a Communist entity for most of it’s existence draw people to it? If you’re that wrong for that length of time you are completely discredited. SF is also a very devious entity.

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:20 PM

    Let’s put this PIRA thing to bed now as well why don’t we …..
    The disappeared and other various atrocities are without a shadow of doubt a history that suggests that Sinn Fein cannot be trusted in Government …. fully acceptable logic …. But what about the record of the other mainstream parties ?
    FR. MOLLOY – Fianna fail is all over that one and evidence was “disappeared” – Fine Gael are 3.5 years in office and what ? … Ansbacher is still haunting those who set budgets to tax people while they “disappear” ill-gotten gains offshore as well ! And yes the dogs in the street know that sinn fein have plenty spirited away as well !
    So lets all get off the moral high ground why don’t we and forget the past and concentrate on what the future should bring to the Irish in Ireland !
    The one-upmanship is a game for children !
    Oh and those of you who think that things are done better elsewhere – bullshit !
    the British Government shot its own citizen’s in a territory that is only 19 miles from its “mainland” and the Polish government ran a torture chamber for America – I am sure there are many many other examples !

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    Mute Terri Corrigan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:26 PM

    Did you not know there was a struggle in NI because Catholics could not get a fair deal? Please inform yourself….unless you lived in the North, you could never imagine what it was like to be oppressed at every turn. Read your history is my advise. Do you love the Unionist that much?

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    Mute Notnews Justspin
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:30 PM

    @Anne Marie
    I think Enda and Joan are running,End of story.

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    Mute LurganRhebel
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:38 PM

    Or it may be that more people are becoming Shinners?

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    Mute Conn Rogers
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:45 PM

    Are you making some sort of point there, Lurgan, or just saying what you see? “I love lamp” springs to mind

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    Mute Liam Browne
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:48 PM

    well William.. if you had even a basic knowledge of what you were talking about, you’d know that the reason The PIRA and SF split from the OIRA and OSF (O = Official) was because they felt that OSF were Communist.. yet you think SF were Communist

    As for being involved in an armed struggle.. So was Cosgrave, DeV, Lemass.. and 80% of all the TD’s and Ministers for the first 40 years of the States existence

    SF is a very “devious entity”.. I doubt even I could explain the stupidity of that remark

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    Mute Sean O'Keeffe
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:57 PM

    Sinn Fein, like current and previous incumbents, aren’t fit to govern a pet zoo. But appear to have established a broad appeal to the most gullible in society.

    “On this evidence, corroborated across other departments, Sinn Fein in the North is not a party of the Left which has reluctantly gone along with policies it finds repugnant, but is a party of the centre-Right. Which of the economic measures it has initiated or implemented in its time in government would be reversed by the Tories under direct rule? Sinn Fein in the South veered to the Left in search of electoral support to lift it into coalition with Fianna Fail. The objective was to win a share of government across the island.

    If this meant showing a Left face in the South and taking a Right stance in the North, so be it.”

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/eamonn-mccann/why-sinn-fein-is-neither-left-nor-right-but-green-all-over-28516115.html

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    Mute Real Democrat
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:03 PM

    The Irish people will never surrender our hard fought for freedom to any Marxist outfit, SF support the same political system that forced a lot of Eastern Europe into a decade of poverty – be careful who you vote for my friends it could be your last one!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:04 PM

    @William Grogan, do your research before making ridiculous comments.

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    Mute Were Jammin
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:11 PM

    @sean o’keeffe: the Belfast telegraph is owned by denis o’brien. You may as well link to teh Sindo.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:24 PM

    When peaceful protest is denied, violent protest is inevitable!
    Try reading some history in regard to the sectarian state that existed in 6 counties. As for the communist slant, are you locked into 50s Mc Carthyism there..The world has moved on…..

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    Mute Sean O'Keeffe
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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:49 PM

    Jammin, O’Brien acquired a 30% in INM in 2012. The linked article was published two years earlier.

    Courageous attempted defection, but contains about as much substance as SF’s economic policies.

    Why not address the substance of the article rather than relying on logical fallacy?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 3:01 PM

    If you want a lesson in historical revisionism/ moral relativism please visit maryloos fb page – she, not unreasonably, asked her fans to vote on this poll. The comments are depressing. There’s a real schism developing in this country.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 3:06 PM

    Terri, sf had no mandate from the people of ni until the time of the ceasefire.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 3:14 PM

    I hear ya. Always loads of Shinners on it. Dark day for the country if they get a mandate to form a government

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    Nov 29th 2014, 3:46 PM

    A SF mandate would be fantastic, but having no mandate hasn’t stopped SF and the PIRA from doing anything in the past.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 3:48 PM

    like the irish govt of 2day and govt before them have let the warlords from the U.S use shannon airport for god knows what.. know one has clean hands

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:04 PM

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    You sound like Enda, very close to his exact words.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:14 PM

    Very scary poll results so far!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:36 PM

    Charles rex I think you will find that sinn fein havd been polling well in the 6 counties since the early 80s. That is 14 yeaes before the ceasefire.
    Oh and they have increased those pplls year on year and are continuing to increase their mandate..

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:55 PM

    It depends what you consider polling well involves. The revisionism that sf and their paramilitary friends were representing the supportive catholics is not borne out by electoral results throughout the entire period.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:12 PM

    .wordpress.com/2014/11/27/full-article-benjamin-fulford-11-24-14-pentagon-ready-to-
    Obama underscored his support for the Nazis last week by authorizing sending $120 million worth of weapons to the Neo-Nazi militias in the Ukraine, according to US government sources. “Through Ireland, Boryspil Airport (near Kiev in the Ukraine) will receive thousands of rifles, rocket launchers and pistols,” the US source said.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:43 PM

    I am voting sinn fein and my transfers are going to independence

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    Nov 29th 2014, 8:03 PM

    Its a great outcome poll and only second or third time I have seen the votes go into ten thousand and more. Sf and independents might just do it. If this poll is genuine. I am assuming the majority of no voters will vote indos ( at least I am praying to god they will) I feel quite positive for future if Irish people stick to their guns. It is looking like GE will happen faster than fg lab want it. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Let’s get our home back and protect our kids futures and ours .

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:00 PM

    @ Mary Lyons – “Very scary poll results so far!”

    Not half as scary as it would be if the current version, or a mixed up version of the same old same old, are returned after the 2015 GE..

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:22 PM

    PSOB
    Ha that comment has backfired on you, More green tumbs.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:44 PM

    Comrade Grimes, nothing has ever managed to backfire on me.

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    Nov 30th 2014, 5:58 AM

    PSOB

    BOOM!

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    Nov 30th 2014, 9:44 PM

    Mr Cronin is soooo right he says it as is

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    Dec 1st 2014, 5:30 PM

    Shows what you know William, the Provos were never communist, as for the rest of you comments, is engaging in politics shooting civil rights marchers, murdering people in there beds, on there streets, jailing people without trail or jury, remanding people in jail for a year and a half then dropping the charges then re-arresting them again on another trumped up charge. You see you only know what the British media wanted you to know about what happened in six counties of YOUR COUNTRY. SF are not the answer to all our problems, no party will ever be, but if you ask me who I would trust to look out for the Irish people, the politicians who mix with the rich and vote themselves pay raises or SF who alot of went to jail and risked there own lives for this country (whether you agree with armed struggle or not), I think I would give SF the vote. They could not do any worse than FG, Labour and FF and if they did sure you can throw them in jail.

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    Dec 1st 2014, 5:38 PM

    The IRA have already admitted the armed struggle was a mistake. I don’t have to make the case.

    I’ll ask you two questions that epitomise SF’s moronic socialist and ignorant policies; do you think the Irish economy would be better off with 48% tax on earnings over 100K and do you support the ending of Water Fluoridation?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:49 AM

    I know FG are bad but if people actually vote SF in, I’m becoming a mermaid and going to live under the sea.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:55 AM

    While I disagree with some of their policies I would vote for them because they are a republican party and their is no obvious alternative……….

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:02 AM

    Why was this poll just about S. F. why not ask who will you vote in the next general election, that would of explained which way are votes might go on the day.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:19 AM

    Any one who votes for Fianna Fail, Fine Gael or Labour are clearly idiots and worse. I don’t care who people vote for as long as its not the same muppets over again. You can expect people who caused all the problems to fix them. The 3 parties have sold the citizens out and to many people believe the state driven propaganda campaign against sinn fein and the independents. They’ll do a better job then all of the others but that wouldn’t be hard. Ill say it again. Ensure you get out and vote, if you vote for FF, FG or Labour. You need your head checked.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:25 AM

    Our*

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:56 AM

    Better get your swimsuit ready then.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:23 AM

    SF aim their policies at people who don’t want to work and want everything handed to them

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:38 AM

    “SF aim their policies at people who don’t want to work and want everything handed to them”

    Like their policies on extending paid maternity and adoption leave, paid parental leave and greater financial assistance with child care costs, and their call for legislation to ensure that employers have a responsibility to provide some childcare facilities?

    Didn’t really think that gutter comment through, did you?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:39 AM

    I’ll join you. SF enjoy opposing anything unpopular while giving no alternative whatsoever to make up the shortfall to pay back our debts.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:42 AM

    Couldn’t agree more. I do not support any of FG’s recent decisions but I will never be desperate enough to vote for SF and what they stand for. People in Ireland can be so stupid and forget the past too quickly………

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:45 AM

    @were how will they pay for all of that?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:58 AM

    don’t try to change the subject matter! It’s not about how great SF or any other would be. It’s about how bad FF/FG/Labour have been. It’s about media bias and spin, and it’s not going to work. FG are finished in Gov. So are FF, we will not forget!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:05 PM

    @ neenee: What, how will they pay for the policies you reckon they don’t have??

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:09 PM

    I never said they’ve no policies.yes how or who will pay for the policies YOU listed above?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:12 PM

    Im sorry but they are not OUR debts they are the banks debt that we are force to pay for!!!!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:31 PM

    Talking of idiots ryan I’d say you saw a real big one this morning when you looked in the mirror that’s if you have one.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:32 PM

    And what would sf/ira have done?. U ape.

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    Mute Were Jammin
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:32 PM

    You claimed their policies were directed at people who don’t work, I’ve proven you wrong. Their budget submission is available on their website, figures supplied by the Department of Finance, and is based on a model already successful in the Scandinavian countries.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:32 PM

    Hear hear.

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    Mute neeneee
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:44 PM

    Eh no you didn’t.

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    Mute PSOB
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:49 PM

    SF are not populists, they will just solve everyone’s problems.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:52 PM

    “yes how or who will pay for the policies YOU listed above?”

    Not sure Neeneee,maybe we can ask Fine Gael and Labour for advice on where to find the money, they did manage to find over €50 million to pay for Irish Water consultants, or maybe we can ask Fianna Fail, they did manage to somehow find over €150 billion for the banking sector…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:55 PM

    Ah boys ye are away with the fairies if ye think SF are the solution to this countries problems.I’ve better things to be at on a Saturday than to be arguing ye fairies

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:31 PM

    And which party is your solution neenee, the one that collapsed our economy or the ones behind Irish Water?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:31 PM

    Can you please take Kenny and Co with you.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:32 PM
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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:08 PM

    PSOB = The Chief FG Troll Faker !!!!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:30 PM

    Policies are one thing but how are they going to be paid for.Thats the problem

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:30 PM

    I really feel sorry for you Lyons\PSOB. I mean 21 plus comments with the PSOB account alone on this page pretending to be a SF shill. What drives someone to become like you? You need help.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:15 PM

    Cathal, we all need to do our bit for the Struggle.

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    Nov 30th 2014, 12:11 AM

    You’re like a broken record an Ciarroch. If all you can do is shout ‘Troll!’ it doesn’t say much for your ability to argue a point.

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    Dec 10th 2014, 10:56 PM

    Forget the past to quickly?.have you forgotten who got us in the shit were in and who has kept their foot on our necks in the shit.?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:57 AM

    Kennys constant sf bashing is the best recruitment tool the party have doesn’t he sound like such a fooking idiot every time he’s asked difficult question when he stutters out well look what gerry did or something something ira it’s pathetic

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:09 AM

    Do you honestly think Sinn fein/ira have the ability to govern the country???? It won’t effect me anyway cos I will be jumping in the first plane out of the country once they get power.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:20 AM

    You must have eaten a few courses of fg propaganda. They’ll do just fine running the country. The ira is dead. Move on.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:25 AM

    Well you must have eaten some of the Sinn Fein propaganda. If you think the ira is dead, you are a very very gullible person.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:31 AM

    Were jammin, why have you ignored my earlier question to you – why do you think Sinn fein/ira will be any different to the current government?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:32 AM

    But you hav no problem with FG/Cumann na nGaedheal /IRA/Blueshirts Joe Bloggs.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:55 AM

    Joe you do realize its 2014 and not 1980s right? SF are more than capable of running this country. Put it this way at least Adams has the ability to tell the diffrence between minimun wage and 35,000 a year. But sure your more than likely Endas sack wiper, so your opion matters not because you’ll be leaving the country soon.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:56 AM

    Is that with the thousands leaving weekly since 2008?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:58 AM

    Hope the plane crashes.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:03 AM

    I’ve made a promise to myself that I will also leave the country.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:04 AM

    il pay your fare..joe

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:05 AM

    @Damian Martin, it’s a pity that Adams doesn’t have the ability to tell the truth when it comes to whether or not he was in the ira.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:13 AM

    I take it you have evidence joe/kenneth. Have you gone to the Gardai?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:18 AM

    Enda said it so it must be true right? I find fools like him amazing. The british would be all over Adams if they could prove he was in the IRA but sure let Joe continue to live in the 80s. Sooner the better people like him do actually emergrate.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:33 AM

    @Damian Martin, no not because enda said it but because countless former ira members have said it.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:40 AM

    Oh right joe are these the countless members who went and joined anti GFA groups? Well done you spoon. They want to hurt the GFA so they will say these kind of things, so lets get this right, you think Adams was in the IRA because people who went against a peace processe said so? So basically You are taking the word of people who activaly went against peace just because you don’t like Adams. Well I’ve heard it all now Joe. You are taken the IRAs side but yet bad mouthing Adams for being in the IRA. Man you’re one confused idiot.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:49 AM

    Now that we don’t have Paisley using the mantra of SF/IRA, are you just trying to fill his boots? Even most Unionists in the North don’t do it anymore.

    Anyway, by using that moniker you can’t be taken seriously, goodbye.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:19 PM

    We should forget what Gerry and the PIRA did. SImples. The general election should only be about Kenny.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:22 PM

    @Jim, until Adams owns up to his past, he cannot be taken seriously.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:28 PM

    @psob, that is A disgraceful comment and an insult to the countless, innocent people murdered, raped and terrorised.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:47 PM

    Joe, I’m just hoping everyone forgets, as it doesn’t help with SF’s new political narrative.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:52 PM

    even if he was in the IRA.. so what ?

    This canard comes up every time there is a discussion on SF..

    The IRA are off the political stage for over 20 years now.. what difference does it make at all.. whether Adams was a member or not

    Personally, I think he was.. but I really couldn’t care less.. when are people going to be more interested in looking forward than back at the Troubles ?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:02 PM

    @liam Browne, if Adams was in the ira (no if about it), then he has some very serious questions to answer with regards to the murders, rapes and terriorist acts carried out by the ira. Especially if he was one of the main men. Just because these crimes happened 30/40 years ago doesn’t mean nobody should be held accountable.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:13 PM

    @ joe bloggs: As you obviously have evidence that neither the gardai/psni are in possession of, why don’t you Post it here proving Adams membership……

    Take your time

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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:32 PM

    Seems you have forgotten that PIRA was only 1 combatant component of what happened in 6 counties.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:03 PM

    bye bye done let the door hit you on the way out xxxx

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:05 PM

    over 10.000 republican done jail during the WAR . you must live under a rock

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    Nov 29th 2014, 5:38 PM

    good riddance.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:20 PM

    There’s something awe-inspiring about watching Sinn Féin march on under Gerry Adams, when the entirety of the Dublin establishment, most particularly the media in the form of the Sunday Independent and Stephen Collins in The Irish Times, is against it. They are petrified in a class-ridden and, it has to be said, West Briton way. This is the same fear that Home Rulers had of Sinn Féin coming up to the 1918 General Election, and indeed the same fear that Fine Gael/the Blueshirts had coming up to the 1932 General Election. Fine Gael election tactics in 2014 are eerily reminiscent of the “red scare” tactics of Fine Gael in 1932.

    As somebody who voted for Sinn Féin in the early 1990s when Independent Newspapers waged the mother of all propaganda campaigns against Sinn Féin and John Hume, I watched then with satisfaction as the Hume-Adams initiated peace process triumphed over the Harris/Fanning/O’Reilly/de Rossa/Bruton/McDowell axis. I note this month that Anne Harris is now “not being reappointed” (yes, that was a euphemism) as editor of the Sunday Independent, at the same time as Sinn Féin under Gerry Adams is reaching its highest popularity rating ever and at the same time as Sinn Féin remains the largest political party in Dublin City Council. As long as the Sinn Féin haters persist, Adams will have a monopoly on teflon supplies for European politicians.

    My only fear is that Sinn Féin will become too populist à la Fianna Fáil under Bertie Ahern and Charlie McCreevy and give something to everybody ( to buy elections), and that will only end in failure for them, and for Gerry Adams’ place in history. Hopefully, Adams’ leadership skills and balls will make his government a mold-breaking one, rather than one full of slow mé féiner Fianna Fáilers.

    In the meantime, any chance that Sinn Féin will end this “Lord Mayor” nonsense and revert to the original mayoral title of medieval Dublin, simply “Mayor”? It’s time to put an end to this British royalist cult all over this city. The streetnames in honour of British colonial warlords should also be removed. It’s time for us to honour heroes of our history rather than heroes of their history. These cultural assertions of Irish sovereignty are the real reasons I will vote for Sinn Féin. Gerry Adams and Sinn Féin is the only party promoting Irish cultural distinctiveness (although I would vote for people in other parties if such people promoted them).

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:28 PM

    Joe
    You will have to clean out your desk in the Dail first, Bye now and take care.

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    Nov 30th 2014, 4:08 PM

    Slán

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    Dec 1st 2014, 5:45 PM

    What questions about rape did he rape someone and if you prove he was in the IRA thenat least he had the balls to stand up for his country unlike the blueshirt facists that took over in the free state.

    You go on about crimes of the IRA but never once mentioned the muders, rapes and terrorists acts of the real terror army of the British. All you know comes from the british media, I lived it the only terrorists I ever knew had British army uniforms on.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:16 AM

    Why just Sinn Féin on this poll? Surely a poll outlining which party people would vote for would have been a more informative?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:54 AM

    Because the losers with multiple accounts will prevent it from being a genuine poll.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:02 AM

    And how would that not stop THIS from being a genuine poll?
    The fact of matter is that any online poll is not a genuine poll. “On the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog.” http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/427/561/7ad.jpg

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:28 AM
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:10 PM

    The FG/FF/Lab people with multiple fake accounts may disagree with me, but I think SF will win an overall majority in the next general election, as this poll suggests. Gerry Adams for Taoiseach!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:20 PM

    The question is whether they will respect the democratic process and leave government once they’ve spent their few years in power and people realise they’re no better at keeping their election promises than the current shower.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:29 PM

    Which members of SF are you accusing of bank robbery sean?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:42 PM

    No current/former Sinn Féin members have ever had any links to the PIRA.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:38 PM

    @PSOB SF will have a good next General Election compared to Election 2011. However, it’s unlikely that they – or indeed any other party bar perhaps FG – will even field enough candidates to secure an overall majority even if every single one of their candidates were elected. These online opinion polls are good fun but no party will come anywhere near an overall majority after the next election. Of that you can be 100% sure!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:36 PM

    Maybe because the only choice in Ireland is the failed political parties of the past (FF/FG/Labour) and the new party of Sinn Fein. Makes sense to have an “Are you will them or against them vote….

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    Nov 29th 2014, 5:31 PM

    Give us a loan of that crystal ball when you’re finished, will you?

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    Dec 1st 2014, 5:33 PM

    Martin machine gun Mc Guinness, Gerry Kelly, Bic, the list goes on and its not something we need to apologise for, they are proud ex members of the IRA just like Dan Breen so on

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:05 AM

    The people seem confused as to who to vote for. The options are not great are they? I’m worried that them dirty rotten scoundrel’s FF might just sneak in. Rural people in particular always fall for their nonsense.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:30 AM

    Funny, I was thinking that most urban people don’t even have the sense to register for a vote, and the ones that do, just vote for pbp, and other peasant denominations.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:21 AM

    It’s pensioners that decide who governs us…..you won’t find a representative no. of them voting on the journal!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:33 AM

    Peasants? Well aren’t you a colourful chap. I sure hope you will join Joe and up and leave. What an absolute disgrace you are.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:43 AM

    They will promise to put money back in your pocket. It gets people every time!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:23 PM

    FF were good to the pensioners and they won’t forget it.

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    Nov 30th 2014, 6:01 AM

    George

    Please tell us that you were writing that nonsense with a huge grin on your face .

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    Dec 4th 2014, 8:09 PM

    Was that before or after they cut the blind pension Sean ?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:56 AM

    Just don’t vote FF, FG or those traitors Labour !!!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:50 AM

    I’d have Fianna Fail back rather than vote for the shinners and that’s saying something . Unless there is a new party I’ll probably have to fg/lab again .

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:01 AM

    Surely there’s an independent that will adhere to more of our ideologies than the parties you’ve listed above

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:19 AM

    James Com..you are the reason why Ireland remains in the gutter, even suggesting that you would vote for the parties that have destroyed the nation is an abomination

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:01 AM

    In what sense is Ireland in the gutter? Who are you comparing us to? Congo or Zimbabwe?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:50 PM

    FG made some ridiculous mistakes in their time in power. But they have done nothing in comparison to FF.

    I can understand boycotting FF, but it makes no sense to protest vote for SF when they have such an… umm…’loose respect’ for the law, and such an incompetent grasp of basic economics (they want lower taxes but have no idea who will pay for it).

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    Nov 30th 2014, 12:15 AM

    Turkey – “(they want lower taxes but have no idea who will pay for it).”

    I think you will find that they want higher taxes for the wealthy and lower taxes for middle and low income earners, which is the complete reverse of what this current administration has done.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:51 AM

    Sure vote for the thatcherite blue shirts, sure they’ve looked after us well haven’t they? Oh no.. Wait…..

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:01 AM

    The journal must be copying the Indos attitude now towards SF. Infiltration by the Gov id say

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:02 AM

    I’m voting for the least worse candidate, usually an independent

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:04 AM

    @ finbar, did the journal make up the recent sex abuse scandal? The murders of innocent people like jean mconville? Robberies like the northern bank?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:13 AM

    Coming around to the same conclusion- independent- although if Enda keeps going on about the Shinners I might swallow my reservations and vote for them as a protest vote. To me nearly anything would be better than the E.U, aka Elite Uberalles government we have.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:19 AM

    I’ll be voting independent, FG tax the life out of you but they wont be a patch on SF

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:39 AM

    Colm, that is just more of the ‘lies’ that FG/Labour and FF would have you believe. SF have a costed budget proposal that takes the tax onus off folks earning less than 100k and puts the onus on those who can afford to pay. They also planning bringing in a wealth tax for assets over 1 million.
    In the last 7 years since the crises began, the rich in this country have added 25% to the bank balances while those earning less than 50k have been destroyed. You work out for yourself which is the fairest way to bring in tax revenue and then make your decision.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:51 AM

    Cal that’s all well and grand but the problem there is that the majority of that wealth will leave the country/be funnelled offshore due to the ludicrous effective tax rates being suggested by SF.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:46 PM

    The multinationals are here for tax reasons and we need them. We have no issue attracting them now and we should avoid doing anything to change that. The EU would be delighted if we did though

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:58 PM

    “They are planning on bringing in a wealth tax”.

    A typical SF economic sound byte. With no detail as to how it would be enforced. Because it’s so easy for people to leave the country and avoid it.

    What is even more sickening is that this tax (to single out one) would exempt an owner occupied property from the tax. So a millionaire could just buy the most expensive property they could to avoid the tax.

    Who would have thought that former (?) terrorists and murderers and rapists and thieves and extortionists would have such a poor grasp of economics…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:58 AM

    Fianna Fail are 100% out for me for at least a generation, until there is a full turn around in TDs from the Bertie era. I wouldn’t be so childish to never vote a party again, that’s an old Irish way of doing politics. But they will have to wait a long time before they get my consideration again.

    Fine Gael are out for me. Now they get a bad wrap. I think they have more integrity, and less me feinness than Fianna fail. I also believe they have genuinely contributed to an improvement in the economy. But they are simply too right wing. Also while I’m not 100% against water charges, they have helped me go against them with their stubbornness and clear display of out of touchness with reality and what the people really want.

    Labour I’m not even considering, they are a total stain on the party. I’m not even going to bother explaining the endless reasons why that party should just disband.

    The far left parties are capable too much of boringly twisting figures and making a lot of noise without ever being too convincing.

    I have tried independents several times but unfortunately the Dail chamber seems like a black hole for them, which is sad but it just doesn’t work well.

    Sinn fein have a cagey past due to the war, however they have overcome barriers that no current politicians around the world could even dream of. Their economic policies improve yearly and they have more experience with international dealings than any other party.

    I’m going to at least try them once.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:06 PM

    I’m not a SF supporter but I agree with you. If you’re fed up with the current government, the default is SF, nobody else. (PS what “cagey” past?)

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:12 PM

    Adrian,I can see you logic but the same problem still remains for this country we have a political system that allows people of limited intelligence get elected portfolios for which they have very little experience,they quite literally have to learn on the job, they have to depend on advice from experts in the civil service who have many years of experience and then decide for themselves,when choosing who to vote i use the process of elimination, regardless of party politics,just like in the presidential election, by the number of possitive attributes as opposed to the number of negatives,that way at least you know you have the oppertunity to make an informed decision leaving aside pre concieved bias,we still get the politicians we deserve.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:16 PM

    This is exactly how I feel about the parties. Fianna fail need a complete turnaround of TD before I would vote for them. Fine gael are too right wing in economic. Labour are cowards in my opinion. The socialists and other far left groups tend to be one issue and talk about about what they don’t agree with, never what they do agree with. To me independent are hit and miss. Some of them are quite good, some are terrible. They require a lot more investigation before voting for them and I genuinely believe it is not possible to run a government with just independent which is why I’m more inclined to vote for a party. It is also why I am going to give Sinn Fein a chance come next election.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:11 PM

    Not a SF voter either but may give them a chance. FF/FG/Lab are all centre right parties. We know now what their agendas are and i certainly won’t be backing them because of this. It doesnt matter how much these three parties rattle on about ‘fairness’. If your economic policy is fundamentally favouring business interests at the expense of society people then insisting on ‘fairness’ is simply a cosmetic exercise.

    Would also agree that Lab and FG are handing votes to SF: each (unnecessary) attack on SF is handing them votes by the truckload. If SF are so bad, why on earth would you waste your time attacking them? Wouldnt thier ‘badness’ be self evident, not in need of being highlighted? Burton in particular is showing her inexperience here IMHO. And if I was SF i wouldnt waste my time addressing the attacks. Why woudl you bother? People are quite able to see that the attacks are nothing more than a measure of govt desperation

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:13 PM

    Sinn Fein’s socialist economic policies will drive this country into the ground. They sound good as “soundbites” and unfortunately too many people are falling for them. But anyone who knows anything about economics is terrified by what sinn Fein will do to this country.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:22 PM

    Nice FB account ‘conor’. Looks very familiar…..

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:28 PM

    ‘But anyone who knows anything about economics is terrified by what sinn Fein will do to this country.’

    In relation to my earlier comment, this is exactly the kind of comment that garners support for SF. Anyone who knows anything about economics (and who isnt a govt apologist) knows that there a multitude of problems are being created by this govts economic policies. Even people IN the govt know and admit this

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    Nov 29th 2014, 3:51 PM

    stop talking out your hole and try thinking for yourself .or are you enda kenny ??

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    Dec 1st 2014, 5:36 PM

    Yea the rich people will be shaking but you know a different way of looking at the way we govern ourselfs is healthy. We do not need to be another we statelet of the USA and Europe we can be wealthy in our own terms

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:57 AM

    Having lived through the second half of the last century I would find it impossible to support Sinn Fein in any way.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:34 AM

    I think you might still be living there. Having lived through the second half of 20th century, I see no alternative to SF and the independents. It is obvious to see that FF/FG/Labour sold this country out. We are now the most indebted nation per head of population on the planet and these 3 partys have the cheek to challenge SFs economic policy. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:44 AM

    Probably lucky you didn’t live in the first part of the century, you presumably couldn’t support FF/IRA ,FG/IRA/Cumann na nGaedheal/Blueshirts or (well lets forget about Labour) either Michael McGrath.

    “A lot of people have realised that looking back is not a profitable exploit, except for the historians.” Alan Dukes.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:59 AM

    I could not vote SF – not until Gerry Adams and his dark past are but a memory.

    No, at the next general election I am only voting for an independent or a representative party that allows a conscience vote with the whip being applied.

    Roll on Spring ’16 or hopefully sooner.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:03 AM

    Without Gerry Sinn Fein have nothing. That’s why they keep electing him year after year after year.

    Shows a distinct lack of confidence that their party is all about one man.

    O’Snodaigh, their number 2, is a long way behind him.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:16 AM

    Johngaghan as usual you talk bollocks. Mary Lou an Pierce are steets ahead of Mr O’Printerink.I have to say however that the day Adams retires is the day SF will become the favourite of the people! Whatever you think of Adams he was at least instrumental in the success of the Good Friday agreement. luckily for FG/Lab he seems to want to hang on and he is the reason why many people are reluctant to vote for them.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:26 AM

    So was Tony Blair.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:29 AM

    Isn’t Gerry Adams the only non-democratically elected leader of a political party in Ireland? If SF get in to power I’ll be skipping country too.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:32 AM

    Gus I agree with you but I’d go further and say it’s the old brigade of Shinners like Adams throughout the country that prevent people voting en mass for them. I personally have a huge issue with some of the barely literate “chucky are law” heads who run around supporting Sinn Fein without being able to understand a word of Irish let alone speak it with any great fluency. Also I disapprove of the version of Irish history that Sinn Fein promotes! Not a huge fan of the FG/FF version our kids are fed either mind!

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:47 AM

    Gus, I don’t think that the Good Friday Agreement should be a measure of anyones success as a government politician. John Hume was an architect of the peace process but not so good at leading the SDLP. David Trimble’s Unionist party were annihilated at the first opportunity to make way for Ian Paisley’s DUP party which didn’t take part in the peace process or sign up to the GFA.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:25 AM

    Mark Gerry is elected by the party to be leader of the party. all the other party leaders are given the job hence Bertie handing it down.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:47 AM

    baron adams is more toxic than ebola, it appears the irish people don’t like a man who cover up the abuse of children

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:27 PM

    John McGahon – Fine Gael

    Your party have destroyed this country and I’m looking forward to seen the backs of your kind after the next general election.

    I’m off to the protest march in Limerick now, “Enda Kenny Not One Penny, No Way We Won’t Pay”

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:02 AM

    Absolutely I will. Whether or not I give them my number 1 will depend on whether or not PBP run a strong candidate in my constituency. Voted labour in the GE my entire voting life, never again. The antics f the last couple of weeks have only hardened my stance against the abomination they have become.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:07 AM

    And why do you think Sinn fein / ira will be any different?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:31 AM

    Not even the unionists use that term anymore, it belongs back in 1994 prior to the GFA. You YFG lads should pick up a history book while you’re hiding in trinners.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:38 AM

    Were jammin, you are still ignoring my question.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:42 AM

    Stop spoofing Spammin.
    You’re a shinnerbot with a script.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:52 AM

    o’lielly, you calling someone else a spoofer is like Quazimodo telling ya to sit up straight.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:07 AM

    Again jammin, you have ignored my question.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:48 AM

    spam min you a poor shinnerbot, i didn’t even think that was possible, poor pleb

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:13 PM

    poor pleb all voting from the gulag up the falls but in the real elections well only us irish will be allowed vote :D

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:49 PM

    paddy, I wouldn’t consider you Irish you should be ashamed.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:55 PM

    Comrade Jammin, I too am undecided who will get my No 1 *wink*

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:58 AM

    This should bring the party hacks & shills out of the woodwork.
    * pours a cup of coffee and waits…3,2……*

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:45 AM

    brought you out so i suppose your right

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:05 PM

    Brought you out as well ya tool !!.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:42 PM

    I rest my case… The Collins Muppet is up to spewing his tripe as usual..
    G’wan collins mouth away.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:44 PM

    name calling who that shows your intelligence. what an angry little nobody you are

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:29 PM

    @ paddy mulligan : “name calling who that shows your intelligence.”

    As does bad grammar/spelling.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:57 PM

    Well mulligan, you would know about being insignificant and being a nobody.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 3:55 PM

    feck of grammar nazi

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:51 AM

    Goodbye, Gerry and Mary Lou !

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:28 PM

    the evil duo

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:02 AM

    I hope people vote for substance and proper thought out policies and for a party that has a clear idea of what it can realistically achieve in a five year term. Not sure if SF are that party yet.

    And anyway this is a premature discussion. I can’t see Enda and Joan going to a GE early. There’s another 15 months of potential political hay to be made.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:26 AM

    As somebody who works for the labour party David, I’d say you’re crapping your pants at the prospect of an early election, and the inevitable annihilation your party faces.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:34 AM

    I think you should be worried about Labour as they are at 7% and nose diving.At this rate they will be like the Greens and PDs.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:36 AM

    Spammin as somebody who works for SF who recently deleted their SF cheerleading Twitter account to hide your identity, I’d say you’ll need to work harder to convince people your party isn’t a corrupt, immoral and inept organisation.

    But you’re work rate us excellent.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:39 AM

    The same annihilation the LP faced in 1987 when they got 12 seats?? And were back up to 33 in 1992?

    Again Were Jammin you seem more intent on playing the player than the ball. Read what I said in my original comment. Its a fair statement in my opinion. And criticizing SF is no way some sort of defence for the Labour party.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:40 AM

    Can you please tell me what party I’d be voting for if I’m looking for substance and thought out policies so if sinn fein aren’t them?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:44 AM

    @o’lielly “Spammin as somebody who works for SF who recently deleted their SF cheerleading Twitter account to hide your identity…..”

    Still misrepresenting me o’lielly? You kept claiming I have this other magical twitter account, so i’ve asked you to link to it.

    Now you’re claiming I deleted it? LOL!

    Still, not the first time you’ve been dishonest round here is it?

    http://www.thejournal.ie/profile/189176/oreillyyour-assertion-last-week-sympathetic-2194122/

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:48 AM

    Weird – who do you think is going to read a link from a one tracked idiot like you?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:59 AM

    Better one track than 3 fake accounts bill rooney/david burke/alan o’connor…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:31 AM

    We placed our TRUST in the Establishment Parties and each and every one of them BETRAYED that trust. Fianna Fail, the Progressive Democrats and the Green Party destroyed our economy and now Fine Gael and Labour are destroying our Society. They are pitting poor against the rich, the employed against the unemployed and rural against urban.
    We the people keep giving these people the power to run our country for us and what have they done? They’ve ruined it and now for their own political gain they’re destroying our Society too.
    If we want things to change we have to take our courage in our hands and take the brave step of voting for Sinn Fein and Independents. If we want a New Republic this is what we have to do. That is why in the next GE I am going to vote for these people. I trusted all of the others as mentioned above and am now regretting it.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:08 PM

    Not apples and apples David, in 1987 Labour were part of an unpopular government but most of the anger was directed at FG, guilt by association if you like. This time, through lies and deceit, they’ve managed to generate animosity all by themselves.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:30 PM

    Mr/Mrs/Ms Were Jammin is an impartial fully identifiable commenter who does not continuously advocate the policies of one party. He/She is fully entitled to criticise others for using anonymous multiple fake accounts to disagree with his/her neutral opinions.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:35 PM

    Multiple fake accounts? Ok, what other names am I allegedly posing under PSOB/Shinnerbot? Give us a laugh…..

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:40 PM

    Comrade Jammin, I fully agree you do not have multiple fake accounts.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:55 AM

    If I still lived their, YES I’d vote for SF.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:52 AM

    Independents all the way. Sick of the political parties and towing the party line. Vote for an independent Ireland.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:56 AM

    You might as well vote for the dog from Frasier

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:09 AM

    Personally, I think voting independent is often a cop out. They rarely get into government, and when they do it is on the strength of lousy side deals promoting the parish ahead of the country. Their disparate voices also make for a weakened opposition. That grand coalition of independents in government, so easy to wish for, would lead to a GE in 12 months. Vote for the best government, or even the best opposition, don’t waste it on a token protest.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:01 PM

    anyone but the terrorists

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    Nov 29th 2014, 6:26 PM

    Who are the terrorists? FG terrorising pensioners and the poorer citizens with stealth taxes. Using scare tactics to frighten people to paying for the bank bailout.

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    Nov 30th 2014, 12:22 AM

    Actually, Shane, we know who the terrorists are. You seem to seriously underestimate the IQ of the electorate.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:56 AM

    I’m going a bit wacko next election.
    My no 1 will be People before Profit/Anti Austerity candidates.
    My no 2 will be the much maligned socialists/Leninists/Stalinists/Paul Murphy/Joe Higgins alliance.
    I think I will toss in Sinn Fein as no 3, because we need such a bloo*y mix of agitators and rebels in the Dail, that they might even erect a guillotine outside and finish off the usual political dynasties that have utterly destroyed Ireland, for generations to come.!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:05 AM

    If you think an assortment of communists would not destroy the country ant further, you are having a laugh.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:55 AM

    Nothing could be worse than FG/DUP and LAbour will not exist anymore

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:25 PM

    us irish people have to google the DUP such is the relevance of that part of Britain

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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:19 PM

    Your orange knickers are showing Paddy/PSOB

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:00 AM

    Everyone should have a chance at least, God knows they can’t do any worse than previous ones so why not ? Give Gerry and co a chance

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:15 AM

    That’s the spirit!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:24 AM

    I can’t make up my mind between Ms Panti, SF or Jim Corr. They all deserve a chance.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:28 AM

    Sinn Féin proposed a 30% reduction in salaries of all elected representatives. FG, FF and Labour voted against.

    Sinn Féin’s last three budget submissions were costed by the Department of Finance i.e. they were balanced and viable.

    Sinn Féin’s budget submissions were fair and equitable and included an additional 3-7% tax on those earning over €100k.

    There is zero evidence to show that an increase in the top rates of tax would result in reduced investment and, the increase in spending power of those on lower incomes would indeed give the economy a major boost.

    Sinn Féin will abolish the water tax. The current tax actually costs money to collect i.e. Irish Water is a NET LOSS, therefore there will be no loss to the exchequer if abolished.

    Sinn Féin TDS survive on the average industrial wage, the excess goes to a fund which is used for party expenses [which include dissemination of facts to counteract mainstream media lies (RTE, INM, Irish Times) Fine Gael/Labour and Fianna Fail owned) for example, the vilification of water tax protestors. Funds are also used in local communities.

    Sinn Féin propose a full review and reform of the public service workings, to identify and correct inefficiencies, introduce accountability and ensure those fat cats who run departments for their own benefit are gotten rid of. Not, the hatchet job that FG and Labour did which resulted in many good people leaving with large pay offs to work in the private sector.

    I CANNOT THINK OF ANY REASON NOT TO VOTE SINN FÉIN !

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:36 AM

    Sinn Féin’s budget submission the last few years just rehash the same cuts or tax increases each year, i.e. they just have to come up with say a €3billion adjustment and use that each year. They don’t have to think up of anything new. But if they were in power, The Government has to come up with new taxation and expenditure cuts each year. They can’t just do the same thing again and again. So that’s a fundamental difference.

    Secondly, when SF say their budget was costed by the Department of Finance, what they do is submit each individual proposal to the Department of Finance and get a figure on that then they compile it all together and say it’s been costed. This is disingenuous as you should submit the whole plan to be costed because cuts in one area could alter the estimation of proposed revenue in another.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:37 AM

    The Disappeared, Bob?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:52 AM

    Budgets were not costed and balanced. As per Pearse Doherty’s acceptance in an interview here on the Journal…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:59 AM

    well pears has being all out for lying before too on his CV, but thats the evil shiners for you

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:18 PM

    If Sinn Féin TDs survive on the average industrial wage does that mean the taxpayer is subsiding medical cards for them?? And also you forget to mention that SF want to nationalize literally everything, something that many countries have tried and failed in!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:35 PM

    When Sinn Fein say that their submissions were costed this simply means that a couple of accountants have run their eye over the available figures. If you remember how the last government spent millions of euros with accountants Price Waterhouse Cooper to come up with a solution prior to the bank bailout only to reject them. Accountants are fine working with figures as they are presented to them, but without facts they are crystal ball gazing. There is no government on the planet that would hand over a real account of their business to a rival party. This government didn’t even know the true picture until they were elected.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:43 PM

    Blake don’t forget the doctored diesel and petrol and smuggled cigarettes,that’s why they only take the industrial wage. Not forgetting northern and southern banks, plus the gullible yanks you won’t ever mention those things.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:47 PM

    Sorry Blake I should have said they not you.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:59 PM

    Robert, surprisingly I cannot think of any reasons either.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:24 PM

    Really 100% .perfect.
    Fantastic you must have found the “goose” that lays the golden egg !
    Sure they are telling people what they want to hear, sounds as if they are offering Paradise on earth to them.
    They sound very like the Italian 5 Stella party, google them to learn more.

    Wake up !
    Ireland was on the brink,it is only by borrowing it did not fall off the cliff, or have people already forgotten.
    Say what you may about this Government but they have brought it back to the point that it is now : the shinning star of Europe and voted as one of the best places on earth to live.
    Give them credit for what they have done and work with them to lower the national debit.
    This debit is there and has to be paid one way or another,there is no getting away from that.
    Don’t blame all the woes of the past crisis on the Government and the Banks , far too easy.
    When housing prices skyrocketed,instead of boycotting this, people jumped on the bandwagon and borrowed as if there was no tomorrow, my own children included.
    The people are the ones who handed more power to the might banks.

    Also the great hullabaloo about domestic water charges, dirt tactics being used, something very new, is a degrading and not democratic.
    Water charges are already in place for water on land and for businesses and have been for some time, I think some people are not aware of this .Domestic water charges were being payed as far back as 1980,at least in rural Ireland. One example is a pensioner,living alone paid €100 p/a in 1995 (I have seen receipts), having already paid a connection fee of about €250.
    So this water charge is not something new. Also L.P.T. was not invented by this government, it was call RATES, before it was abolished some years ago.

    There is no way that I would vote for a party based on promises, and to date, only continues to I disrupt the everyday running of the country. I would prefer to vote for a government,that is not perfect. You may not like Mr Kenny as a person, I don’t, but by God he is admired as a great politician/leader throughout the world.

    Better to stick with the devil you know,than the one you don’t !

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:04 AM

    SF/IRA would not be capable – of running our country and have so much still to explain. The disappeared, for example.

    And they want a United Ireland – but have no idea where the £1 billion cost (every month) can be borrowed.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:12 AM

    Paisley lives!!!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:26 AM

    Our current government ARE not capable and can’t explain anything, If SF, not SF/IRA (that party does not exist,) get into Government, the explaining of the treachery committed by the Irish/ British governments during the troubles would totally overwhelm the public, do you realise that the British government has a lot of explaining to do? Who will ask these questions? Maybe SF in government will be our best option of reconciliation on this island of ours?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:52 AM

    Will, you can’t buy a United Ireland at any price while the majority of people living in Northern Ireland wish to remain as part of the UK.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:05 AM

    Conor, this is the precise reason why most people in Ireland will not be voting for SF, they are all yesterdays men living out their fantasy of blaming our neighbours for everything that has happened in Ireland over the past 800 odd years, instead of giving us hope for the future and offering an alternative to our present agenda. Ireland’s sovereignty depends on our international standing as a trading nation and paying our way within the EU framework.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:10 AM

    “the majority of people living in Northern Ireland wish to remain as part of the UK.”

    That old partitionist minset raises it’s head.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:18 AM

    Chris, it is the “anyone but Sinn Fein” brigade that are clinging on to the past.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:04 PM

    here in the republic we don’t want a united island and that is all that matters, in the north they can hold hands or blow each other to bits because its all completely irrelevant to us irish people :)

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:47 PM

    Here in the republic we do want a united Ireland, your comment is seriously f*cked up. Troll

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:07 PM

    Are their no Irish in the North?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 5:38 PM

    The Irish in the North know what side their bread is buttered….

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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:26 PM

    Stop this silly pretending Paddy… we know you are nothing but a bitter orange bas**rd

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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:44 PM

    Chris here here

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    Nov 29th 2014, 8:00 PM

    You really are a tool Chris.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:02 AM

    SF all the way.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:32 AM

    Sinn Fein are doing very well in the North power sharing.They will do fine in the South too.Enda lied about the house tax.He said it is a immoral tax and he would never bring it in.Then he brings it in.Joan and her party said they would never ever bring in water charges.Then they get in power and do not do what they promised us.I would not vote for them.FF sold the country to the IMF and I would not vote for them.So that leaves Independents and Sinn Fein to vote for.So they will get my vote.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:59 AM

    No they’re not! They had to get an additional loan from the UK Government as they can’t agree on what to be done with the other parties in NI. Stormont is effectively in stalemate at the minute. They can’t decide or agree upon anything!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:23 AM

    Doing very well???? They are in me hole…. They wont even speak with the DUP

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:23 AM

    That is not exactly true Dazzer, SF in the Northern Assembly have stalled on the introduction of a welfare bill and are hanging on the coat-tails of the Westminster government without even representing their electorate within the Westminster parliament. Allowing the Unionists to have all the say at Westminster is a total disgrace.

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    Mute paddy mulligan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:58 AM

    calling a whole community a shower of bas****s is hardly progress, but that baron bigot adams for ya

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:58 PM

    Actually, he called their Leaders that while trying to persuade them to embrace equality.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:43 PM

    Actually he called the racist bigoted element of unionism that.. he also asked what it was with equality that they feared so much!!
    What do you all a racist bigot then???? IMO Adams word is very tame indeed..

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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:02 PM

    Imagine what he (adams) would say to merkel, dragi, et monsieur hollande about lining with silver the pockets of Allianz, BNP Paribas, Deutsche Bank……all of whom were major stakeholders in Anglo with Tax Increases on hard working families on very modest wages…and all this just because…in their eyes at least they never lose….or how you put it ‘too big to fail’. Is that an analogy of “Too Small to Win”:))

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:49 AM

    Is the journal going to be honest with the votes and not mess with them?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:52 AM

    Needless to say, the results of our polls are never altered.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:52 AM

    You honestly think they have to?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:01 AM

    Nicky – Wouldn’t a Vote across all the Parties been more logical ?

    That way , all the conspiracy merchants , would see where they would finish up too , on the % graph !

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:01 AM

    I thought the majority of Journal posters were SF activists. Surprised to see SF polling so low here.

    Maybe they will all arrive at the same time when their shift starts at SF mediadom HQ, I think they start at 11am on a Saturday.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:03 AM

    A certain irony there that a Sinn Fein supporter would accuse someone of vote-rigging.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:18 AM

    Johngahan – You and the FG Trolls are up early !
    Don’t let your Blueshirt Balaclava slip ?

    SF doing great in every Poll – great times ahead for the Citizens of the Whole of Ireland !

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:25 AM

    Ciarraioch/Caoimhin/WereJammin are you the SF trolling shamrock? 3 in one?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:38 AM

    35% is hardly low Gahan considering they were polling 22-26% recently. I’d say it’s pretty damn good considering the dirty tricks campaign carried out by the govt parties over the last couple of months.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:38 AM

    Johngahan – Unlike you multi name FG Trolls – I’m just simply Ciarraioch and proud !

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:50 AM

    TR – this is simply a poll of SF propensity to be on the Journal. I am still surprised they aren’t polling a lot higher here. It usually seems like 60 – 70% when they are out in force on these forums.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:50 AM

    It’s early. Shinners aren’t up. Once they are and read their text they’ll jump in the poll…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:55 AM

    Sorry troll but Sinn Féin are topping the polls including the RedC. Your childish idiocy really counts for nothing. Do get yourself a life. Good lad.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:59 AM

    11am – watch the poll numbers start to swing violently into a SF majority.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:11 AM

    Lol. You have to laugh at these anti SF trolls with their conspiracy theories.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:14 AM

    Johngahan – see that you are trying to change tack on something you said earlier in the thread ???

    Herr Enda & Mistress Joan , every time they open their mouths are winning more votes for SF !

    Then of course , Guys like yourselves are doing great work for SF , by Trolling for FG here every day .

    Not so many Labour Trolls anymore though – they seemed to have all resigned to their fate of being annihilated in the upcoming Election !

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:28 AM

    You think this is accurate reflection of the people?? The shinnerbots are out in force this morning

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:53 AM

    How can SF jump from 31% to 41% in an hour. All morning the poll was balanced and stable around 31. Then boom , the bots kicked in. How do the shimmers rig a poll like this ?. I know they are , just wondering how they are doing it. Just asking

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:38 PM

    would be interesting to see how many votes were cast from northern ireland i.e. those people who don’t actually have a real vote in our affair, but we humour them with a sense of relevance for internet polls

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:42 PM

    Up to 43% now!

    It really does expose the number of propaganda Shinnerbots who pollute the comments section here and on other sites.

    SF want to magically reduce taxes and increase spending, they silenced women who were raped by powerful people in their group, were involved in multi million pound Bank robberies, created a fake research company so they could steal public money (this week’s BBC investigation).

    And oh yeah, they also support and include terrorists, murderers in their ranks.

    Shur you’d be mad not to vote for your friendly and cuddly local SF politician.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:35 PM

    It’s not like SF supporters might have anything to do on a Saturday morning is it.Like getting the most of a few hours a week they might have off.Maybe spend time with their kids.Of course in the FG mind they must all be nursing the hangovers paid for with the dole money. Thats what your trying to get at ain’t it ? Well it’s an open fourm.Say what you mean Gahan.Or are you afraid that speaking your mind will further damage your beloved Blue Shirts ?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:48 PM

    Paddy – the SF vote jumped from 31% to 44% in under two hours. If you don’t understand how this shows blatant vote rigging then you need to do a very basic course hour long class in statistics.

    I’d love for the journal to do an expose on the IP addresses over the last two hours.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:11 PM

    Paddy Mulligan – aka – Kenneth = FG

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:35 PM

    They can vote-rig all they like here, just as long as they don’t do it in a real election.

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    Nov 30th 2014, 12:15 AM

    Blind allegiance to Kim Il Jerry. I’m sure the other parties are green with envy!

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    Nov 30th 2014, 12:18 AM

    There you go again, an Ciarraioch. Do you really have nothing else to say? Sad git fooling no-one :/

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    Nov 30th 2014, 1:18 AM

    I’m sure Edna and Joan are most definitely green with envy. They are also very yellow too.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:13 AM

    What a turnaround in Irish politics, the old FG/FF with labour on its coat tails no more. It wall to wall SF with FF being non relevant .

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:37 PM

    Leahy you’re just a throwback to bad era.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:00 AM

    And have college dropout Pearse wreck our economy with shinnernomics no thanks

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:06 AM

    To be fair he failed engineering twice, not economics.

    As any Sinn Fein supporter will tell you, it is time to give him a chance at the wheel, sure why not? He might be good.

    Any one of us could be a violin virtuoso or a chess master, but if we’ve never picked up a violin or played chess, we’ll never find out.

    On that basis we should embark on the grand united Ireland economic experiment, isolate ourselves from external markets, and see how it goes.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:08 AM

    sorry but who wrecked our economy?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:09 AM

    You do know he dropped out last year to start working in the industry he was studying?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:30 AM

    Shows a distinct lack of basic judgement.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:45 AM

    But Pearse claimed to be qualified on his website in 2011. Had to change it when found out.
    Another one prepared to tell lies…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:03 AM

    Wreck our economy? Its already wrecked. Dear God, some people.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:07 AM

    He didn’t graduate but he is qualified, he worked in the industry he studied in college which is why he left. Who cares about that anyway compared to the labour lies pre election

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:17 AM

    Shows a complete lack of understanding of working in the real world. I don’t think that school teachers necessarily make good political leaders either but at least they have held down a proper job and have many years of working within a political framework. Doherty’s only work experience has been as a SF senator for part of Donegal on the last parliament and his present TD role as a so called finance spokesman wirhin Sinn Fein hardly qualifies him as a future finance minister.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:22 AM

    what is he qualified in?

    it is neither as an engineer nor engineering technician.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:55 AM

    All our parties are socialist but SF are communist. That’s not the best road to travel.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:59 AM

    So cram, you been on the drugs long or is this your first day?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:03 AM

    I wouldn’t say it’s drugs, lack of knowledge more like. Ireland has a communist party and their policies are nothing like Sinn Feins

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:43 AM

    The nazi party was a socialist party by the way pal

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:09 AM

    Haha extreme right is left now apparently

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:21 PM

    Hevan,
    The official name of the Nazis was National Socialist German Workers’ Party.

    Notice that word socialists?

    Look at the economic changes they made, nationalising industry. A lot of which are still around today, including Volkswagen.

    So yes, they were on the left economically. Far right on their social stance.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:39 PM

    Are you trying to remind people of FG’s connection to facism ?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:51 PM

    Oh ya they left Europe in great shape well done nazi Germany

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:06 AM

    Anyone but the Crooks FF , Thugs FG and traitors LAB

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:00 AM

    Too many decent people in the country who although might not love fg/lab or ff for that matter , are too switched on and with it to vote sf

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:11 PM

    sane people will never vote for terrorists

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:58 AM

    Would love someone to comment about what way it would go if everybody voted indeprndent and FG kept their hardcore blind supporters could that mean they could get in again ? Tnx

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:37 AM

    If FG had a large majority but not enough to form a government they would have to persuade independents to join their party or at least join them in government.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:13 PM

    The only way to let this government know you’re not happy with their performance is to vote SF.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:22 AM

    I’d be reluctant to vote SF but then when I stop and think about what FG have done to my life I think why not give them a chance to prove themselves ?!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:13 AM

    Wouldn’t vote SF if the ballot paper said…

    SF

    SF

    SF

    SF

    SF

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:14 PM

    Being a loyalist, nobody is expecting you to adrian.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:30 PM

    ah enter side in the north has a vote and that suits us irish people fine, ye have nothing to do with us and thats the way it sill remain

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:42 PM

    Take the orange out of your national flag then and stop pretending we are part of your nation. Your mindset there suits me down to the ground. Build a wall around the border if you want.

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    Dec 2nd 2014, 6:00 PM

    an trap decent irish people in a part of Ireland were they are treated as second class citizens………hardly

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:19 AM

    I cannot stand FF but I would vote for them ahead of SF. I would vote for a donkey ahead of SF.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:31 PM

    that is grossly unfair on donkeys :D

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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:04 PM

    Tap, please reconsider voting for SF, a donkey in government would make an @ss of itself.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 5:24 PM

    There’s nothing wrong with voting for a relative.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:38 AM

    Should we vote Sinn Féin? Let’s take a sensible look at their policies instead of much of the childish “Sinn Féin/IRA” and unsupported claptrap about “destroying the economy” (we are €2,000,000,000 in debt thanks to “tried and trusted” policies of FF/FG/Lab” so that talk is just silly!

    Sinn Féin proposed a 30% reduction in salaries of all elected representatives. FG, FF and Labour voted against.

    Sinn Féin’s last three budget submissions were costed by the Department of Finance i.e. they were balanced and viable.

    Sinn Féin’s budget submissions were fair and equitable and included an additional 3-7% tax on those earning over €100k.

    There is zero evidence to show that an increase in the top rates of tax would result in reduced investment and, the increase in spending power of those on lower incomes would indeed give the economy a major boost.

    Sinn Féin will abolish the water tax. The current tax actually costs money to collect i.e. Irish Water is a NET LOSS, therefore there will be no loss to the exchequer if abolished.

    Sinn Féin TDS survive on the average industrial wage, the excess goes to a fund which is used for party expenses [which include dissemination of facts to counteract mainstream media lies (RTE, INM, Irish Times) Fine Gael/Labour and Fianna Fail owned) for example, the vilification of water tax protestors. Funds are also used in local communities.

    Sinn Féin propose a full review and reform of the public service workings, to identify and correct inefficiencies, introduce accountability and ensure those fat cats who run departments for their own benefit are gotten rid of. Not, the hatchet job that FG and Labour did which resulted in many good people leaving with large pay offs to work in the private sector.

    I CANNOT THINK OF ANY REASON NOT TO VOTE SINN FÉIN !

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    Nov 30th 2014, 1:15 AM

    Idiotically posting the same thing over and over again is not going to convince anyone of the validity of your arguments. But it will convince them that you are lacking any logical argument…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:32 AM

    Should we vote Sinn Féin? Well, let’s take a sensible look…

    Sinn Féin proposed a 30% reduction in salaries of all elected representatives. FG, FF and Labour voted against.

    Sinn Féin’s last three budget submissions were costed by the Department of Finance i.e. they were balanced and viable.

    Sinn Féin’s budget submissions were fair and equitable and included an additional 3-7% tax on those earning over €100k.

    There is zero evidence to show that an increase in the top rates of tax would result in reduced investment and, the increase in spending power of those on lower incomes would indeed give the economy a major boost.

    Sinn Féin will abolish the water tax. The current tax actually costs money to collect i.e. Irish Water is a NET LOSS, therefore there will be no loss to the exchequer if abolished.

    Sinn Féin TDS survive on the average industrial wage, the excess goes to a fund which is used for party expenses [which include dissemination of facts to counteract mainstream media lies (RTE, INM, Irish Times) Fine Gael/Labour and Fianna Fail owned) for example, the vilification of water tax protestors. Funds are also used in local communities.

    Sinn Féin propose a full review and reform of the public service workings, to identify and correct inefficiencies, introduce accountability and ensure those fat cats who run departments for their own benefit are gotten rid of. Not, the hatchet job that FG and Labour did which resulted in many good people leaving with large pay offs to work in the private sector.

    I CANNOT THINK OF ANY REASON NOT TO VOTE SINN FÉIN !

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:32 PM

    SF must be taking their own meth….

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:28 AM

    I won’t vote for Sinn Féin because I consider myself left wing and they are anything but. What kind of left wing party is against property taxes or stays completely silent on contentious issues like a woman’s right to choose out of fear of losing support? No, Sinn Féin are full of populist tripe and we had enough of populist parties diring the Celtic Tiger.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:07 AM

    Ignoreland, you were corrected on this before. Socialist leaning partys favour a property (as in assets/valuble posessions/wealth) tax, not a property (family home) tax. The fact that the government and shills have hopped on the double meaning of the word ‘property’ shows how two faced and conniving they really are.

    Personally I’ve no problem taxing multiple homes, but the roof over your head is not something you can dispose of like other assets, unless you want to be homeless.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:01 PM

    Incorrect, Were Jammin. Socialists believe in taxing property – whether it’s your only property or not. I don’t know where you’re getting your definition of socialism from. In fact, true socialists reject the concept of private property altogether. And yes, the roof over your head is something you can dispose of, as many people did during the Celtic Tiger as they ‘climbed the property ladder’ whatever that means.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:31 AM

    *sigh* something’s are too important to give someone a try at and see what happens. It takes decades to build a political relationship internationally or lay the foundation of a good health service, education system or growing economy and mere days to ruin and tarnish them for years.

    I’ve never flown a plane before but hey who knows…. I might be the world’s best pilot you never know until you sit me down in front of the controls with 300 people in back.

    You have to question the juvenile state of mind thinking let’s just put monkeys in charge of the factory and see what happens…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:43 AM

    I look at it like a football team goalkeeper. Your first choice is in bad form so you try the sub keeper, they rotate and rotate for seasons playing rubbish so you try out your reserve keeper. Reserve keeper been SF

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:24 AM

    @Drew so right …. look at what happened when we put a forty years worth of Dáil experience (and expenses) into power Enda Kenny and his Labour Lapdog iPhone Joan, … homelessness, poverty, waiting lists, taxes, water charges, communications license charges–a la Rabbit !…, family home charges, VAT, USC, John Brutons Pension, bin charges, NCT, New drivers license – take a day off to get it, increased tolls, increased bus fares, increased health insurance, increased postage…… NO WAGE INCREASE……..but the rich are happy ………

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:55 AM

    Hey Drew, let’s say if you were “proven” to be, and put yourself up as “the world’s most experienced pilot” – but then, contrary to what would be expected of you, you keep crashing the plane, over and over a-bloody-gain – would you expect the 300 people to book another flight?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:47 AM

    Even with the no-life spamming anonymous fools like “O’Reilly” and ‘Joe Bloggs” on here full time…35% are saying yes to Sinn Fein in the poll and 15% are considering.

    Viable policies and analysis of all proposals by sensible people are over-riding the knee-jerk smears and ludicrous propaganda. Sinn Fein are a real alternative towards a shared future of prosperity, with none left behind.

    Make the change and vote Sinn Fein.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:05 AM

    I would give Sinn Féin my number 1 Vote.. Mainly because I am a supporter of a United Ireland and they are the only party that seriously working towards that.

    My 2nd an 3rd I’m thinking maybe People Before Profit, but need to learn more about them – I may also include a good socialist candidate – mainly because of Clare Daly, she is absolutely brilliant….But then, I might vote ONLY Sinn Féin, with no transfers if left parties follow the lead of this loser government and start any underhanded attacks on Sinn Féin.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:40 PM

    well SF have achieved the coplete normalisation of british rule, they are part of british rule in storming, its all to tragic talking about a united ireland it is all but a dream. that suits everyone just perfectly :)

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:08 AM

    I’d personally like to see another option, “I’d vote for SF if Gerry Adams withdrew from the party.”

    Probably unrealistic but I think he is probably the biggest put-off for a lot of people considering who to vote for when it comes to SF. If he wasn’t there I reckon they’d have no problem getting in.

    This doesn’t reflect my opinion on them by the way, I’m not particularly pro or anti SF but I get the feeling a lot of people’s biggest problem with them is Adams. Maybe I’m wrong though.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:22 AM

    You’re probably right.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:48 AM

    So you’re OK with MaryLou and Pearse defending rape & child abuse? Their blind allegiance to the cult us just as concerning as Adams deeds.

    None of them are fit for office…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:12 AM

    O’Reilly, i think you will find that primarily FF/FG & Labour were involved in the systemic cover up in the 26 counties. They were even brought to the European courts of human rights on the issue and were found to be guilty (the most recent of which was only 3 weeks ago). The UN has also made many judgement against successive Irish governments. But hey, don’t let the truth get in the way of your rant. about SF.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:28 PM

    the irish people will never accept a director of terrorism, not now not ever

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:38 PM

    Is that why he usually tops or is the second most popular leader in the state in the polls?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:29 AM

    I see SF hq in Parnell street has just cranked up their Shinnerrigger poll fooling machine watch it go from 33%

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:36 PM

    its hilarious, shame the poor spanners don’t realise in an election you need a vote not an internet connection and well most of their support spamming irish websites don’t actually have a vote so its a bit comical really.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:28 AM

    I’d ride spiders first before voting for SF.

    However, if they got rid of the murdering thug leadership from over the boarder then I would.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:32 AM

    Michael collins Armagh Mp not kill anyone Brian?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:20 PM

    @ brian : “I’d ride spiders first before voting for SF.However, if they got rid of the murdering thug leadership from over the boarder then I would.”

    Your FB profile says you live in England.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:50 AM

    rian Cumningham Read: Kenny – SF would ‘absolutely wreck’ economy. Adams – Resign and ‘let the people decide’ > first of all we have no economy after 40 odd years of the same parties milking and robbing and looking after themselves …..there is very little damage can be done by anyone who replaces the current gang of pirates PROPAGANDA WILL YOU FALL FOR IT AGAIN i believe in sinn fein and always have they have strong policies and if you read them you would see why current government is terified of them i refer to a one line ….. Sack those in charge of state bodies where they act against the public interest…… as a manager first thing when you take on a company is get rid of dead wood and i believe that is why KENNY and the rest of them are afraid of sinn fein…….education is power read up on them even as far down as myself the whole party is out night and day helping helping those who need it if you have an issue i recommend asking them for help and they will fight tooth and nail to try make your life your family us people that little bit better off DONT GET FOOLED AGAIN BY CRONIES

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:50 AM

    The people have awoken.

    Even with the no-life spamming anonymous fools like “O’Reilly” and ‘Joe Bloggs” on here full time…35% are saying yes to Sinn Fein in the poll and 15% are considering.

    Viable policies and analysis of all proposals by sensible people are over-riding the knee-jerk smears and ludicrous propaganda. Sinn Fein are a real alternative towards a shared future of prosperity, with none left behind.

    Make the change and vote Sinn Fein.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:33 PM

    you need a vote at the election, alas the majority of shiner support don’t have a vote in our affairs :D

    you keep cling to losing an internet poll as some sort of victory :D

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:33 AM

    The question shud be..what qualifies anybody to run a country ?? Idiot statments from kenny and co..running scared..to me nobody in dail eireann is qualified to run our nation

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:19 AM

    you have tried the rest..now vote for the best SINN FEIN

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    Nov 30th 2014, 1:26 AM

    Because that’s a REALLY convincing argument…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:37 AM

    Sinn Fein fought for Peace – they fight for the people in the 32,today and tomorrow – in Government in the 32 Sinn Fein and the people win-

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    Nov 30th 2014, 1:29 AM

    “Fought for peace” — gotta love the irony in that :-)

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:30 AM

    Journal.ie is doing a poll today, to see will the people say yes or no to Sinn Fein in the next General Election, Please give your vote. The way Sinn Fein works, we ask everyone for there vote and we work for everyone, we don’t care what party you are part of, we see people as equal and we see Ireland as place were you should enjoy the best of Life, not a life with 43 different Taxes, not a place were we give billions to broke banks. If you go into http://www.finviz.com and go to the ETF of Irish banks or bank of Ireland, using the Code IRE in the top right hand corner, you see how the banks is going down again from last May, This present Government will tell you that we are out of the woods but if any thing we are going back in. Look back at the IRE code on finviz.com to 2007-2009 and you see it the way the country went down under FF Government. How did they no see it? This stock was 800 dollars at that time, it fell to 8 dollars in 2009. In May of this year it was back up to 20 dollars, a long way from the top of 800 dollars, now it is down at 16 dollars or down 20% from May, So is this a Country on the way back up? as what the present Government is tells us. Have a look for your self.
    Thank You
    JJ O Hara

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    Nov 30th 2014, 1:27 AM

    That WAS you doing irony, right JJ?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:29 AM

    I’m certainly going to vote for them. I can’t wait to pack in my job and live in the serenity of the the welfare state. We can all be poor but equally so.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:40 AM

    Could you just imagine Wee Jorrie as Taoiseach and Maryloo as Tainaiste and O Snotty as Finance Minister—– thats like putting Pol-Pot, Sarah Palin and Pinochet in power in the same government —- !!!!!!!!!

    We just have to look at the mess SinnFein/IRA and DUP/LVF have done in the Six Counties???? They can’t even agree to disagree.

    Look at their disgraceful behaviour in the Dail . A Dail ( our government that they, SF/IRA do not recognise, the same with our President and our Constitution and they feel free to shoot our Gardai!!!!!!!!

    They will be rightly up the swanny without a paddle if Britain does a Brexit from the EU. We would be back to Borders,trade agreements, customs controls ——etc So where does that leave Wee Jorrie will he be British or Irish , will he move to Louth( little Belfast) and live there ?????

    I would advise anyone who is considering voting for them to get their Manifesto and have a good read of it —- be afraid — be very afraid

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:53 AM

    The dail is the most one sided thanks to the clown carla. Hes a disgrace ment to be impartial.

    And the president hes totally useless he cant stop laws coming in that are morally wrong. He goes off to help other countries cant help his own irish people. Hasnt sed anything to the irish people . Hes an overpaid tourist attraction. He has no important real roles

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:12 AM

    The Dail is one sided because that was the will of the people… Its called democracy, something that SF/IRA have a problem with..

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:42 AM

    Will be funny to see if this poll goes slightly higher in the vote for sinn fein..the cries of ‘shinnerbots’ will ring out over the Internet .

    Whereas if it stays on the majority say no side, it’ll be ‘ha read it and weep gerry /Mary lou’ etc.. So balanced … :D

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:02 AM

    The fact that SF TDs are directing people to this poll tells you that the shinnerbots are out in force this morning

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:06 PM

    its hilarious they send it all out in an email to the shinerbot, pathetic but thats the cult of abuse for you

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:59 AM

    Ruling out FF, FG and Labour for obvious reasons who should I vote for?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:20 AM

    Should have been vote for SF/IRA because they are all the same.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:36 AM

    There’s an IRA party?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:23 AM

    Yes Kevin. It’s called Sinn Féin. Keep up.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:35 AM

    If its called Sinn Fein then why do you call it IRA?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:26 AM

    It’s a Journal polls so SF result will be skewed in their favour given the number of bots patrolling.

    The reality is that they’ll poll below 20% ( once anger subsides).
    On the day, at the booth, voters just won’t do it.

    They’re not capable. They’re not fit.

    They’ll be mired in controversy for years as fear in the North is replaced by anger and victims speak out.

    And they’re not doing a good job of governing in the North.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:10 AM

    Sinn fein are the ukip of Ireland and I’d vote for that any day..get rid of all others clowns

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:36 AM

    Sinn fein are nothing like UKIP. Immigration policy for example

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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:55 PM

    Mark they are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. Please inform yourself more before voting.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:57 AM

    What a silly poll to put up… Why not give people the choice of ALL of the parties and independents .. Mary Lou is already on Facebook directing her moronic followers to come and vote for them..

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:54 AM

    If that lot get elected I’ll be out of here quicker than a fart in a hurricane!!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:20 AM

    Can you imagine SF or SP in charge of this country’s finance. Anyone who earns anything above average industrial wage will be heavily taxed, social welfare benefits increased, rent allowance increased, child benefit increased….basically happy days for the scrougers …a lot of pain for everyone else

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:07 AM

    Should have been Vote for FF/FG cause they are both the same.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:46 AM

    I have not decided yet I voted fine gael in previous elections but they have lost my vote now in recent times they have been so arrogant calling anyone that disagrees with them thugs morons clowns Isis totally disrespectful for the people that voted for them they just have not realized that its people from walks life that have been affected by there policies and as previous fine gael voter have now found it nauseating the constant obsession with Sinn fein ..saying they did this and that up north wait till they do it down south if I not mistaken its different jurisdiction should we compare labour in UK with labour in Ireland no we don’t because its 2 parties in different jurisdiction with different ideals and ideas.

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    Nov 30th 2014, 1:32 AM

    Labour UK and Labour IE are completely separate parties. Sinn Féin north and south are one party. Do you really not even know this?

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:00 PM

    Sinn Feins budget won’t run short because they will end the pointless quangos set up but FF/FG/LG for the last 100 years savings us 100s of millions.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:52 PM

    At a recent county council meeting a newly elected SF councilor said it was “unfair to expected the councilors to come up with a balanced budget”. Apparently he genuinely thought his job was to “look after his street and not worry” where the money came from.
    Let’s be honest, we all know from whence they developed this mindset.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:49 AM

    Imagine in 50 years or so when all the people from the troubled years are dead nothing will be holding sf bk.
    Theres no point in me holding a grudge against ff nd fg over what devalera and collins did.
    Were not looking into the f ing past to relive it
    Were looking to the future to have a brighter future for all of us.
    We all know ff cudn organise a pis5 up in a brewery
    fg love throwing there toys out of the pram nd have the the most biased one sided clown carla.

    If them two parties get bk in i will sho0t myself in the face. As there is clearly fing idiots in the country who shud not be allowed vote for the countries best interest.

    Remember fg 2011 not one more red cent ,burn the bondholders hmmmmm were paying 9billion out in dec to them some burnin the bondholders.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:00 AM

    Nothing will be holding them back except for their ridiculous policies.. Their hiding of peadophiles .. Their refusal to admit that their beloved leader was ever in the IRA. Their attacks on rape victims like Mairia Cahill…

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:17 PM

    Under pain of death I would not vote for SF but I’m sure they could arrange that.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:34 AM

    If I could I would.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:27 AM

    Yes , roll on the election

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:11 AM

    I’d vote for Tinkey Winkey, La La & Po if it meant we got these b**t**ds out from screwing us and the next generations to come. SF have a lot to get over from their past but we have to look to the future and not always be looking back. Unless another political party appears on the horizon we don’t have much choice of who to vote for!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:31 AM

    Mairia Cahill might disagree with you there Grainne, or the McConville family..

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:18 PM

    Pa Mc Garry, that’s all you have, crocodile tears to cry, try your party’s record in government, try justifying the biggest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich that this country has ever seen.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:05 PM

    “My party”..? I dont own a party….

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:27 PM

    I know what your saying Pa, I’m a Donegal woman and grew up with the troubles and being from a large family the Conville tragedy is one that stays with me always, I’m no SF fantasist but I do believe we have to look forward and stop looking back. We should never forget our past but perhaps try to assign it to history and make the best of the country we now have!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:59 AM

    Not a hope I’ll ever vote sinn fein. Given that they have not convinced 4 out of every 5 adults in the country, I doubt I’m alone.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:07 PM

    “Not a hope I’ll ever vote sinn fein.”

    Is this evidence of a balanced open mind?

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    Mute Charles Rex
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:30 PM

    It certainly is. I’ve reached this conclusion over a number of years. I’ve seen nothing beyond meaningless populism that has changed my mind. Opposition parties promise the sun moon and stars – see the current shower for details – their managing of the north does not inspire any confidence. The thing that bothers me most is their double speak and inability to break from their rancid past. When they were the political arm of republican terrorism they didn’t represent me. Until they consign their dinosaurs to the past I feel they offer nothing that doesn’t drag historical imperitives with them. Ireland needs a new future, but one that is not informed and energised by their parochial hatreds. As far as I can see their goal is power at any cost, any promise, and any amount of blinkered rhetoric. Ultimately I’ve lost faith in all political parties, they all have agendas, but in gerry I see nothing that offers me or my family anything beyond easy words and empty hope.
    Ireland is in transition, these are dangerous times.

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    Mute FMan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:49 PM

    And how are they any different to the two main political parties that were gestated in the war of independence and the civil war? The Labour party also signed up to militarism in Easter 1916. Like driving, if you contiually look in your rear view mirror you will almost certainly come a cropper but if you concentrate on what’s in front of you and glance at what’s behind you, you might arrive at your destination intact.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:57 AM

    43%. Proof if you ever needed it that SF orchestrate with military precision on social media.
    Nothing about them is honest. Everything is tainted.

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    Mute Dave Doyle
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:05 PM

    O’Reilly, like the present government and FF are tainted with the stench of corruption and cronyism.

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    Mute Liam Ohainnin
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:03 PM

    I think its time that more young people, more women, and people that are not too close to the banks and godfathers of trade and industry, get elected . It would be perfect to see Sinn Fein getting a chance after their long fight for Irish freedom north and south at great sacrifice to themselves. We need someone that will look after the ordinary man and not line their own pockets or the pockets of their friends.

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:11 AM

    I certainly wont be voting sinn fein/IRA for obvious reasons, so I might vote either FG/ pro treatyIRA or FF/ anti treatyIRA.. as we all know its perfectly acceptable to fight for Irish freedom, kill and disappear who you want. once it is done before 1922, THATS THE BRAINWASHED FREE STATER WAY

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    Mute Dave Doyle
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:03 PM

    I dont care who gets the votes. I care that people do get off their arses and VOTE. There is to much at stake for the people of this country to leave the voting to the usual party hacks, it is why we got the governments that we do. Mind you, i expect the government parties to run such a disgusting mudslinging campaign to try and put people off voting at all.

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    Mute Tom
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:47 PM

    Adams is a Grade A Psychopath!

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    Mute Simon Elron
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:00 PM

    Nothing but SF bashers here at the end of the day nobody knows how a SF government would fare because it’s been so so long since they held power. I don’t think it’s fair at the end of the day to say people are wrong for wanting to vote SF. This is supposed to be a democracy but we all know that the political elite that have been in government have let us down continually regardless of which party. Naturally when people are being squeezing for every cent they’re going to vote the other way although this time people know they don’t want to go back to the economic masters of disaster FF.

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Nov 29th 2014, 6:02 PM

    Sinn Fein have never held complete power in this country. When they won the 1918 general election over 100,000 Irishmen were fighting in WW1 and therefore they couldn’t vote. When they tried to set up a free-state they caused the civil war in 1922. Might they try it again and have more success or will we get a similar result which will set the country back worse than ever before. Personally I wouldn’t trust them.

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    Mute Johnny O'Laddy
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:25 AM

    Very worrying how many people have voted Yes. Better alternatives available…

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    Mute whynotme
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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:02 AM

    Oh dear! I might give them a 2 or a 3 . Now leave me alone!

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    Mute Peter McGlynn
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:14 AM

    40% wow!

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    Mute Donal McWey
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:15 PM

    Under pain of death I would not vote for SF but I’m sure SF could arrange that.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:18 AM

    The grass is always greener on the other side.

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    Mute Eamonn Morrissey
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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:22 AM

    They are stealing Labour’s clothes. By which I mean lying to us.

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    Mute Sinister Joe Isis
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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:26 AM

    It’s startin to shape up like a no vote for me. I’ll go to the polling station and write in large black marker “I Reject This System” across the ballot paper. I mean, what’s the point in it anymore. All politicians do is lie thru their holes to get elected, and when they get into gubbermint they simply do what they want. This is a feudal democracy we have, and when elected they become nuttin more than 5 year feudal overlords.

    Oh, and spare me any guff about how folks died to get us the vote. What really makes me sick is those who mindlessly follow that mantra, give no thought to it, cast their vote and many of the rest of us have to suffer their decision.

    Thanks! :-)

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    Mute Hevin Bear Kiggins
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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:34 AM

    Run yourself, either way you should vote. It’s silly not to.

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    Mute Sinister Joe Isis
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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:38 AM

    Why should I vote? It’s a ridiculous con at this stage. They lie and we vote for them?? Whats the point in that? It only encourages them. Lets them think and believe they have a mandate from the people!
    Sorry, no, my vote is too precious to waste on liars and thieves.

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    Mute Hevin Bear Kiggins
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:10 AM

    Your vote isn’t precious until it’s used.

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    Mute Sinister Joe Isis
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:34 AM

    That’s not correct Hevin. I squander my vote by voting for liars and thieves. Withholding my vote gives it more value. To me anyway.
    And i haven’t decided for sure that i will or wont vote. One thing I’m 1000% sure of is that i’ll never vote for FG, FF or Labour. Ever! Proven entities that degrade whats left of this shoddy democracy.

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    Mute Sean Collins
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:14 PM

    The journal knows that a pole like this will bring out all the shinners to vote so it’s a waste of time

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    Mute Jimmy jones
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:37 AM

    I’m calling shenanigans on this poll! SF were hovering around 30% all morning and then all of a sudden shot to 41% in a very short time.
    If we can’t trust SF not to rig a ” fun ” poll how can we trust them in government.

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    Mute Galloper Thompson
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:34 PM

    Nice to see another Journal poll backfire on them…not content to give an all party poll, they were hoping for a huge united No vote….well so far SF are at 45% Yes with another possible 9% ouch!

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    Mute Elias Khoury
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    Nov 30th 2014, 1:37 AM

    Yes Galloper, but all that proves is the rampant Kim Jong Jerryism of SF. And that is obvious to all.

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    Mute Catherine Blake
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:58 PM

    So sick of Spin Fein saying that all voices saying they don’t want a govt lead by a former terrorist & exiler of paedofiles to the Republic is the coming from the one account. Trying to demean people who don’t agree with SF is a sign of things to come if Sinn Fein get into power

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    Mute Catherine Blake
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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:05 PM

    As there is a large percentage the usual Shinner activists commenting on the journal of course it’s going to be disproportionately in favour of SF….yawn!

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    Mute Andrew Dagg
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:09 AM

    This poll is always going to be flawed. The vast majority of voters over age 60, don’t use social media. They will still vote along civil war party lines.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:50 AM

    To be honest what is happening is beyond party politics. Unless the country stops being held to ransom by Europe so they can’t rob the natural resources and we block the TTIP, it wont make any difference who is in Dail as they will have no power anyway

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    Mute Danny McLaughlin
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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:32 PM

    Hahah…!
    This is brilliant. 45%…!

    Does anyone actually think this is anything other than an orchestrated poll by SF HQ?

    I would love to see SF and Indos go into Gov. They wouldn’t last 6 months. At least then people would see them for what they are.

    If you want to see what they would be like, have a look at NI.

    Fitting water metres for water charges
    Implementing 10% cuts across the board in the Public sector and councils.
    Placing party unqualified party supporters on state boards.
    Increasing domestic rates for householders.
    Setting up dummy research companies to claim monies from taxpayers.

    That’s just things that they claim FG, FF and Lab do down here. I’m not including any of the other stuff they get up to.
    They try to say they are whiter than white, yet they are doing the exact same thing in NI.

    I won’t even go into the shortsightedness of their economic policies.

    Yes, I might even give them a vote next time out, just to show their hypocrisy once they actually got any power.

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    Mute Eoin Naughton
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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:23 PM

    Not a bleeding hope of sending Gerry Adams in to power. The results are bound to be a bit screwy as there are loads of SF heads on the journal

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    Mute ohaimhirghin
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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:44 PM

    45% of this country will vote for SF, that’s it I’m emigrating.

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    Mute seamus mcdermott
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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:50 PM

    As long as it’s someplace you can drive to , yer grand.

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    Mute Robbie Sargent
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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:28 PM

    45%! Not even the most die hard SF Supporter would believe this Poll, massive pinch os salt.

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    Mute David Saunders
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:35 AM

    as much as i would love to see SF win.theres too much bad feeling for gerry to win. step down and let mary lue mcdonnald take them into power. it’s not about egos its about strategy

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    Mute Billy Campion
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:53 PM

    SF are Trotsyite populists who will say anything for a vote. Their politics, like their raison d’être are a relic of the last century. They have no chance of electoral survival post Gerry & Martin.

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    Mute Phil Swan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:38 AM

    Believing there is a viable alternative is part of the delusion. Look at SF in the north and they are the same as the dopes we have in the south. Sitting in parliamentary comfort, removed from the problems of the people they ‘represent’ and while taking any amount of money they want from us the greatest changes they make are those that profit them the most. Why is Edna being such a pr1ck in office? Because it will benefit him when he gets a job in Europe. Why will the next leader do the same? Because they are not leaders, leaders are people who look to make changes for the better of all the people and therefore people follow them. All we have are boys looking for a job that pays out an early pension.

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    Mute Mark O'Hagan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:26 PM

    Judging by the amount of red thumbs given to any comment that is critical of SF – I would expect a huge YES for this particular poll. Like shooting fish in a barrel -no pun intended.

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    Mute Ellie Ward
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    Nov 29th 2014, 3:18 PM

    I think that this would have been better if FF/FG/LAB/INDEPENDENTS/SF had of been put up there and see what the outcome would have been. I don’t like to see any one party singled out like this coz at the end of the day we will have to vote for one of them. So to the author of the poll maybe tomorrow do one with all party’s involved.

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    Mute Ham King
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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:32 PM

    Might as well give them a try. They’re a little left wing for my tastes, however I’ve had enough of every negative story about Sinn Féin featuring a barrage of comments about how the media is propagating “a smear campaign” because “it fears Sinn Féin is challenging the status quo”.

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    Mute John Ward
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    Nov 29th 2014, 12:11 PM

    “Taoiseach Enda Kenny tipped his toe into some pre-election rhetoric yesterday,……”
    I must confess that this is the first time that I have encountered the idiom, “tipped his toe”, but with Enda nothing surprises me.
    Is this a polite way of pointing out that he put his bloody foot in it as usual!
    (It’s probably just a typo but I couldn’t let an opportunity to slag him pass me by!)

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    Mute Conor Sweeney
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:31 PM

    I like a lot of what Sinn Fein say and I’ve a lot of time for Mary Lou and a couple of their other TD’s, MEP’s. I’ll not vote for FG/FF/Labour, but I just don’t think I can bring myself to endorse Gerry Adams in that way.

    Where Adams to go and Mary Lou to be leader, they’d have my 2nd preference (1st goes to Catherine Murphy!)

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:12 AM

    From a horrible foul smelling frying pan to a stench laden fire, I will vote only to get my moniker off the ‘non voters list’, and that’s only in the event of looking for something that I’m not entitled to, which is why my local TD is the first point of contact.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:01 PM

    We are all Sinners, William. Let’s have the humility to accept that, and not blame The Journal…

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    Mute johngahan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:25 PM

    This poll simply proves that there is at least a double concentration of SF activists on the Journal compared to the national reality, per the polls.

    Hardly surprising given then dedication to dominating the Journal of the troll ring leaders like werejammin, ciarraioch and caoimhin ohalipin (naively assuming they aren’t all the one person).

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    Mute John B. Reid
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    Nov 29th 2014, 5:55 PM

    One would have to be an extremely uninformed and undiscerning person to vote for this Sinn Fein party at the next general election.

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    Mute Giuseppe Valente
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:32 PM

    I’ve no problem with SF. I say give them a chance we haven’t had them before in Government. They couldn’t do much worse for the people as FF/FG/Labour have done.
    Tho I don’t want Gerry Adams as leader of the country. He is old school at this stage and we need younger fresh modern minds changing Ireland from the messed up old system that has government as it is.
    Gerry should retire the reins next election to the next generation.

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    Mute pjbrowne
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    Nov 29th 2014, 5:13 PM

    SF dont have enough quality TD’S in the dail yet but they are getting there.you cant be sitting at a county council table one week and sitting trying to run the country the next week it takes time and expereince but they are getting there fast.they haden’t enough quality members to run for lacal goverment the last time out but you can be sure that will be rectafied the next time out

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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:53 PM

    Absolutely

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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:49 PM

    If Kenny and Burton promised to wreck the country, they’d have my vote.
    They always do the opposite of what they say they’re going to do.

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    Mute Lar Dooley
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    Nov 29th 2014, 7:59 PM

    The Coalition in the Republic has inherited a lot of problems which have had to be repaired. The only alternative to the present coalition is a coalition of Fianna Fail (wo caused the mess we are in) and Sinn Fein. Both parties have made much of the water charges, yet these have had to be installed in order to finance local government in the Republic. Sinn Fein is very voiciferous about the installation of water meters in the Republic. How can a political party who prides itself on being ‘the only true 32 county political party’, a party which has been power sharing, (ie in a Coalition Government) in Northern and actively supports the installation of water meters in Northern Ireland, object when a Coalition Government in the southern half of the country does exactly the same thing?? In fact, and this is undisputable, 35000 water meters have been installed, under the instructions of the same Coalition Government, of which Sinn Fein is partner, since 2007 and the installations are continuing, with the same Sinn Fein keeping shtum –

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    Mute Martin Smith
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    Nov 29th 2014, 4:41 PM

    Kenny will go into govt with the devil just so he will go down in fg history as winning two elections and heading the govt twice in a row..He is targetting SF for one reason and that is to ensure that when it comes to going into govt with sf that they have as few seats as possible at govt table…Anybody who believes kenny wont entertain govt with sf is living in cuckoo land…

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    Mute Darren McNamara
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    Nov 29th 2014, 11:09 AM

    I love lamp

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    Nov 30th 2014, 12:45 AM

    Yes, I will be voting Sinn Fein….

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    Mute Thomas Mac
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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:35 AM

    Is a family on a combined wage of €70 -€80,000 well off ?

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    Mute Ciaran Burke
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    Nov 29th 2014, 2:08 PM

    I will give them second preference after independents but as long as they use the whip system the answer is no.

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    Mute John Mulligan
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    Nov 29th 2014, 6:25 PM

    Maybe not my first preference vote but they will be in there

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    Mute Caoimhin O Hailpin
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    Nov 30th 2014, 12:20 AM

    Last time the Journal ran a comparable poll Sinn Fein were at 35%

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    Mute Lynne NicAmhlaidh
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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:50 PM

    Christ NO!

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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:22 PM

    Mr Kenny you are a big problem for ireland, Mr Kenny is on a collision course with ireland, give Mr Adams the opportunity sinn fein will not linger, it will do ireland`s work get things moving for the people of ireland, vote kenny out. james carroll

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    Mute Rob Gill
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    Nov 29th 2014, 9:52 PM

    The SF social media army out in force I see!! they can’t win more than a single seat in all but a small handful of areas and won’t win single seats in many areas. Maximum seat haul for them would be 35 seats

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    Mute Stephen Duffy
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    Nov 30th 2014, 6:44 AM

    With respect, a number of SF TDs have directed SF supporters to this poll via FaceBook and Twitter so any chance of it accurately reflecting to views of the public is well and truly gone..

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    Mute Jonny Lennon
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    Nov 29th 2014, 1:19 PM

    No either People before profit or Socialist party

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    Nov 29th 2014, 10:45 PM

    Now Enda and Joan, take this Poll and shove it were the sun don’t shine. Its astonishing the levels FG/LAB have gone too to deflect attention from their appalling decisions of late. Necessary Austerity if one thing but they are now taking the Piss.

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    Mute Rónán Ó H-Inneirghí
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    Dec 1st 2014, 2:05 AM

    Guys, those of you voting Independents are wasting your vote and leading to UNSTABLE government!!

    Remember some of those independents are from the Fine Gael family! this “Refrom Alliance” is just another right of centre group and we already have TWO of those who should merge when Sinn Féin rise during the next election (i.e. FF/FG)

    Independents are elected for LOCAL issues and are incapable of agreeing cohesively for NATIONAL issues! Just look at their loose alliances in the Dáil!

    Please vote PARTIES of the LEFT like Sinn Féin, Socialists, and PbP, for a new alternative

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    Mute John Dahl
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    Nov 30th 2014, 3:45 PM

    Mah Daddeh is Gerry Odoms.

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    Nov 29th 2014, 6:40 PM

    I don’t trust SF at all and would have huge uncertainty around them but as of right now they represent the only alternative to the established trio that have lost touch with the Irish people a long time ago which is preferable to me. I’d ideally like a new party with fresh ideas and no baggage though.

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    Mute Gillian O'Coinne
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    Dec 4th 2014, 6:55 PM

    SF would be a disaster.

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    Mute Pat Lennon
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    Dec 6th 2014, 1:26 PM

    It will obviously all be up for grabs next time – just watch the persuasion (bribes) get thicker and thicker !

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    Mute Robert Daly
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    Nov 30th 2014, 3:02 PM

    Just shows you how many Shinners are on The Journal – despite all the denials !!!

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    Mute Marty Lawless
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    Nov 29th 2014, 8:51 PM

    I’m voting independents they are better people

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    Mute Paul Atreides
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    Nov 30th 2014, 8:41 AM

    Completely pointless poll, given the blatant swarming of of comments by Shinners with multiple accounts.

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    Mute Ger O'Connor
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    Nov 30th 2014, 10:10 AM

    SF might wreck the economy but how many can’t pay there way in the country but bail out the Banks that we now own and they are still screwing the Irish People

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    Mute Raymond Devitt
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    Jan 5th 2015, 2:07 PM

    That is the most stupid comment.this government expects people who are unemployed to go on there stupid schemes and work tor well below the minimum wage.if you are unemployed on 188euro a week you get 20euro extra.sinn Fein would put a stop to this exploitation

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    Dec 9th 2014, 1:26 PM

    Sinn Fein is a party that has adopted and changed its image I would like to see Sinn Fein lead our people for a change I think they would do a good job they have the peoples confidence at this time, I think it would be nice to give them a chance to prove themselves at least then we the electorate have a different choice instead of the same old faces time and time again telling bullshit lies and getting the overall majority and crucifying the public and nothing we can do,remember Michael martin as minister for health he was an absolute tyrant, so yeah Sinn Fein in government supported by independents that way if they don’t live up to there mandate the government will fall.

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