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Poll: Do you think an 'excessive use' water charge is fair?

The first charge will be levied in July 2019.

THE GOVERNMENT IS to begin refunding water charges but added that ‘excessive use’ charges are on the way.

Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy said: “The monitoring of people’s use under the excessive charging regime will begin in 2018 and they will be monitored for a full year to the end of 2019.”

People who are using a wasteful amount of water will be notified at the beginning of 2019 and will be given a six month notice period to reduce their use.

However, if they haven’t done that by six months they will then be charged for excessive wasteful use for that six month period.

So today we’re asking: Do you think an excessive use water charge is fair?


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    Mute John Mcloughlin
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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:19 PM

    Who the €&€& is Bono

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:22 PM

    John, that’s the last time I include you on my Table Quiz team.

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    Mute Daisy Daisy
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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:49 PM

    @John Mcloughlin: Short, arselicking, gloryholer who’ll cosy up to any homophobic, anti-woman, christofascist if it gets him access.

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    Mute Alois Irlmaier
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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:55 PM

    @John Mcloughlin: God?

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    Mute Tony Hannon
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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:56 AM

    Tried to say he was an oral faeces but The J.said twas bad language

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    Mute Pheilum Shannon
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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:38 PM

    “voiced his willingness to work with him in fighting terrorism.”

    Someone should tell them all that peace will never be achieved through war!! They probably already know that, but make too much money from invading other countries!

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    Mute gregory
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    Feb 18th 2017, 10:57 PM

    u.s. just loves drone strikes. killing at a distance and go home for tea

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:20 PM

    The Russian view of the world seems to be that they are first among equals because they occupy the biggest land mass andown more ballistic missiles than almost everyone else.
    Is it any wonder that Nato exists when you have leaders like Putin waving a flag in one hand and his ‘willy’ in the other.

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    Mute John003
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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:23 PM

    GNP of Russia is the same as that of Spain…..Perhaps NATO and the US exaggerate their power a little…

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    Mute Fox in the Box
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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:30 PM

    @John003:

    Russia has a history of overplaying it’s hand when weak and under playing it when strong. Putins Russia of today is no different

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    Mute Charlie Fogarty
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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:40 PM

    @John003:

    Well those figures are just wrong, and if Spain had the 5th largest military in the world and tried to annex Portugal they would draw more attention.

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    Mute Brian Ó Dálaigh
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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:50 PM

    Yes, John, but Spain doesn’t have about 10,000 nuclear warheads and a million or more soldiers, as well as having troops occupying territory (outside of military instalations) in three countries other than itself.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 4:17 PM

    If the west continues to sanction Russia war is the only inevitablity…

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    Mute Pat O'Dwyer
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    Feb 18th 2017, 4:24 PM

    Behind the scenes, this is what it’s really all about. A very dangerous game that will inevitably end in WW3 if not taken seriously. What we read in newspapers, or see on TV is merely entertainment.
    by Mike Whitney
    “The Flynn fiasco is not about national security advisor Michael Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador. It’s much deeper than that. It’s about Russia. It’s about Putin. It’s about the explosive rise of China and the world’s biggest free trade zone that will eventually stretch from Lisbon to Vladivostok. It’s about the one country in the world that is obstructing Washington’s plan for global domination. (Russia) And, it’s about the future; which country will be the key player in the world’s most prosperous and populous region, Asia.
    That’s what’s at stake, and that’s what the Flynn controversy is really all about.”
    Read more :
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/02/17/blood-in-the-water-the-trump-revolution-ends-in-a-whimper/

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    Mute John003
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    Feb 18th 2017, 4:44 PM

    @Charlie Fogarty: Sorry figure is incorrect In 2016 figures Russia GNP is equal to that of Italy…

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:13 PM

    Russia is a waning regional power, a failing petro-state with a collapsing population.

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    Mute Ken O'Neill
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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:27 PM

    @Diarmuid: Stop spreading fake news.

    In Russia the fertility rate is rising. According to the World Bank it rose from 1.34 in 2009, to 1.54 in 2013 and is currently at 1.60. This rise is almost unique in Europe.

    Since President Vladimir Putin acted to address the problem, Russia has been one of the few countries in the western hemisphere to have registered a stable rise in its fertility rate.

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    Mute Gene Parmesan
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    Feb 18th 2017, 7:27 PM

    John003…Thats not even close to being right. The GNP of Russia is more in line with Germany

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:07 PM

    Kenny you might want to tell that to ordinary Russians that are seeing their lifestyles degrading with each passing year.

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    Mute Ken O'Neill
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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:41 PM

    @Mick Jordan: Mickey another Fake News regurgitating troll;

    There is no aspect of contemporary Russia that has changed more rapidly and unexpectedly than its economic situation. When Vladimir Putin became President, Russia was effectively bankrupt as it owed more money to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) than it had in foreign currency reserves. Since then, Russia has achieved a virtual macroeconomic revolution to the point where it is one of the largest creditors of U.S. debt in the world. Its nominal dollar GDP has increased by more than a factor of six, and has the potential to reach more than $2 trillion by 2010. Growth of this magnitude would equate to nearly a ten fold increase in GDP over the course of a decade.

    In early 2009, the Ministry of Economic Trade and Development published an ambitious plan outlining Russian economic goals to the year 2020. If these goals are reached, Russia would become the largest economy in Europe and the fifth largest in the world following the United States, China, Japan, and India.

    -CSIS

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:58 PM

    Ken. All I see is reports 6-7 years old. Things have changed considerably since then. Oil and Gas prices of dropped considerably since then. And as the majority of Russia’s income comes from them so has its GDP.

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    Mute Ken O'Neill
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    Feb 18th 2017, 9:16 PM

    @Mick Jordan: Things are going really well for Russia today, don’t unquestionably believe everything you read in the anti-Russian MSM and it’s fake news spreading news agencies, of which the Irish MSM is as guilty as any.

    You probably won’t have read or heard this for instance,

    In 2011 Russia became the world’s leading oil producer, surpassing Saudi Arabia;

    Russia is the second-largest producer of natural gas;

    Russia holds the world’s largest natural gas reserves, the second-largest coal reserves, and the eighth-largest crude oil reserves.

    Russia is also a top exporter of metals such as steel and primary aluminum.

    The government since 2007 has embarked on an ambitious program to reduce this dependency and build up the country’s high technology sectors, but with few visible results so far.

    The economy had averaged 7% growth in the decade following the 1998 Russian financial crisis, resulting in a doubling of real disposable incomes and the emergence of a middle class.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 9:58 PM

    Sounds like a Trump sound bite. “Things are going really well”. While back in reality it translates to “things are going down the toilet rather fast”.

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    Mute Ken O'Neill
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    Feb 18th 2017, 10:22 PM

    @Mick Jordan: Another one with an armchair degree in mass media brainwashing.

    Donald Trump is the President of the United States of America, you LOST – now get over it. : )

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:07 PM

    I remember only 20 years ago that the US media were portraying China as an economy on its knees. Mick probably still believes it.

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:32 AM

    @Pat O’Dwyer: The game hasn’t changed much since the last time Russia tried to rule Europe and were stopped in their tracks by a vigilant alliance of smaller nations supported by America.

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    Mute David O'Brien
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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:40 PM

    Bono would want to shut up for once!

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:54 PM

    Free speech …. it’s a right in a democracy!!

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    Feb 18th 2017, 7:02 PM

    In my opinion Bono is the greatest statesman of his generation in Ireland head and shoulders above any other Irish person about today.

    I also appreciated the free album on my phone !

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    Mute Ken O'Neill
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    Feb 18th 2017, 7:12 PM

    @David O’Brien: Check out this prize a$$hole Boknob here slagging off Trump at a concert before he was elected President;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn2h05zO-Fg

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:47 PM

    Bono is a dick plain and simple

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:56 PM

    @David O’Brien: I believe the correct term is a Pox.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 9:49 PM

    Well they’re many way to describe this lad in fairness

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:09 PM

    Two big egos on the one stage. “Good people are not going to stay silent as you ruin the American Dream” says Bono to the big screen shot of Trump before the election, attacking his plans on immigration. He’s been very quiet about Trump since he won, eh?

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:44 PM

    @David O’Brien: Dec 11 2011, on Fox News station.
    Huckabee, interview with Bono on Fox, tonight.
    Huckabee. “You done a remarkable job, I want to say thanks on behalf of all human beings around the world for… advocacy that has led to the saving of literally millions of lives and I wish you the very best and aaah, one other thing. You have a knack for getting people of wide political variances together, we might need you to run for presidency.”
    Bono. “Im going to say, that would be a very scary moment for the world, Mmmm . You on the other hand, I think would bring thee, the Reagan like statesmanship that’s so missing.”

    Makes you sick…

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:58 PM

    So Bono supports Trump???

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:15 AM

    During the campaign he attacked on stage as part of the concert, addressing a big video of Trump. (See above link). That attack featured on the U2 website. Since Trump’s victory, with unprecedented public demonstrations and denunciations from artists of all types Bono has been noticeably silent. Maybe he is cooking up a savage and inspiring anti-Trump work of artistic genius for the upcoming Joshua Tree tour. Or maybe he’s waiting to see which way the wind blows…

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:10 PM

    His street name is 50 pence

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:19 PM

    @Goldberg: does that make any cents?

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:23 PM

    If I had a dime for everytime someone told me that….

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    Feb 18th 2017, 10:04 PM

    Sorry for bugging your phone Angela but some of the lads think your a Russian sleeper !!!

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:57 PM

    @john g mcgrath: A Russian sleeper, MORE like one who sleeps around a lot with the corporate sector?

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:11 PM

    Pence is one of Bomo’s new friends.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:57 PM

    Since when did musicians get invited to international political summits? Anyway, I suppose trump gets bragging rights. Hillary only got beyonce, team trump got bono

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    Mute Michael Flanagan
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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:24 PM

    Because Bono campaigns on behalf of the one campaign that he works on. He’s not just there for show, much to people’s belief.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:55 PM

    @Michael Flanagan: The campaign to raise millions so people can have expensive lunches to advocate on behalf of a poverty awareness raising campaign? Spend a couple of grand on an iPod so a fiver goes to Red to pay for a 5 star lunch where the wealthy are made aware that poverty exists!

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    Mute Dave McCrea
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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:48 AM

    @Daisy Daisy: Wow….how cynical are you? Did you listen to his speech? It was actually very good. He didn’t have to be there, or formulate that speech, he could just act like Conor McGregor or someone. Yes, it’s a little embarrassing for some Irish people to see an Irish rock star doing this, but Bono doesn’t care about being embarrassed, that’s why he’s a rock star and you’re not

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    Feb 18th 2017, 4:41 PM

    Russia has to “prove itself”. I’d say the west has to prove itself at this stage. At least you can’t blame Russia on destroying the entire countries in Middle East. The fact of their presence in Syria is a consequence of political and moral weakness. I’m sure in a lot of countries people would love to have a president like Putin with he’s independent view, actions and strength he has.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:34 AM

    @NsSNBbTZ: Russia has already proven itself as the schoolyard bully…..

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:10 PM

    Seems to be a continuation of Obama policy back to the cold war with Russia…..John McCain and the neocons have won the argument…No policy change under Trump…

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:11 PM

    John003. How many times are we going to have this debate. Putin began the New Cold War over two decades ago. GW Bush was President when he began it. So it is not “back” to anything but a continuation of a situation of Putin’s making.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:15 PM
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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:04 PM

    “Each country defined by it’s sovereignty” The words of Lavrov the Russian Foreign Minister. Absolutely hilarious and utterly hypocritical. When they invaded and annexed the sovereign territories of its neighbours.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:37 PM

    Anyone courting votes with the old sovereignty line has gold sovereigns in mind, & into their personal offshore account is my guess.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 5:05 PM

    Seems strange for the VP to take such a prominent rile in this engagement and comtradict much of what Trump has been saying for months . Connection with Comey meeting and expected developments perhaps ?

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:58 PM

    Pence was checking out the “bono” fides!!!

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:30 AM

    Just when you thought Bono couldn’t be more of a crawler and annoying dick. He’ll be praising Mugabe next.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 10:00 PM

    Bono. FFS!

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:46 PM

    All this proves is Merkel is the President of the EU as every darn head or headbvck of a country meets her when it has anything to do with the E.U. Why?

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:15 AM

    Credit where credit is due. Bono was finding common ground. A good move.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:44 AM

    @Annie Citric: Yes! Unfortunately we have too few people even attempting to find common ground. We know Pence was into gay conversion therapy, but that doesnt’ mean he doesn’t care about say starving babies in Africa. Nobody’s perfect but also nobody’s 100% flawed either…I’m sure there are some Nickelback fans who give to charitable causes.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:29 PM

    Bono should STFU. Nobody in the trump cabinet deserves any praise whatsoever.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:41 AM

    @mrmeade: I’m anti-Trump but that statement is ridic… It’s kind of like saying all refugees are terrorists. You really think out of all the people in his cabinet, none of them have ANY good traits or ideas?

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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:40 AM

    Listen to Bono’s speech. I was skeptical and cynical about him too but his speech was brilliant

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