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'Intense discussions' underway to deliver 900 affordable homes on Poolbeg site

A public hearing on the plan is due this month.

DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL will enter into discussions with the receiver working on the Poolbeg SDZ site over the number of social houses to be included in the development.

The draft Poolbeg Strategic Development Zone (SDZ) scheme will see the fast-track planning of 3,500 homes in the new urban quarter on the Poolbeg peninsula in Dublin. A public hearing on the plan is due this month.

By law under Part V of the Planning and Development Act 2000, developers must provide 10% or more of any housing scheme for social housing – in this case, it would have worked out at a minimum of 350 units. However, Dublin City Council increased that number for this development in a vote last May, meaning that 900 – almost a quarter – of the units would be social or affordable.

Following legal advice, the receiver appealed the provision and indicated to the council it would be providing the minimum number. The receiver argues that there is no legal basis to require it to provide more than 10%.

But now a letter sent to councillors yesterday by Dublin City Council assistant chief executive Richard Shakespeare says that the council will try to negotiate a commercial agreement to build the remaining 550 units.

Shakespeare’s letter says that while he was “disappointed” with the stance of the receiver, he is proposing to enter into “a period of intense discussions” with the objective of entering a binding agreement before the Bord Pleanala decision on the appeal.

“The aim of any such agreement will be to ensure the delivery of the additional units to Dublin City Council for use as affordable housing.”

The commercial agreement would be separate from the Part V agreement, but it is not yet clear who would fund it.

Sinn Féin councillor Chris Andrews told TheJournal.ie that the SDZ needs the 900 units.

“There has to be the extra 550 for this to make sense. That’s what we agreed at council level. In any community, there has to be a mix of social, affordable and private housing. Ringsend and Irishtown are long-standing communities. For the new communities to blend they need a mix.

And it’s important that people who are working can afford to buy a house.

The Green Party leader Eamon Ryan, who shares a constituency with the Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy (where the Poolbeg site is located), said the original agreement included 900 affordable and social homes. He told TheJournal.ie that it is his understanding that the Housing Minister at the time, Simon Coveney, signed off on that provision being included in the deal.

“I think for the developer, and the minister, who would be party to that deal to have abandoned the deal done is a hugely serious issue,” said Ryan.

Coveney was the original minister, said Ryan, but he believes Murphy should have to come back to clarify and explain why the deal with Dublin City Council “is being broken”.

Ryan said areas such as Dublin 2, 4, 6 and 8 need to have a mix of housing – both private and social. “You don’t want these areas turning into millionaire’s row, we do not want to go down the road of a city that is segregated,” he said, adding that the tech and finance sector should not be allowed buy up these areas.

“We have to have a mix and 10% is not enough of a mix,” said Ryan.

“This is a really big opportunity, it is a huge land bank.”

“We need more than that 10%, the government signed up to that, and the developer had signed up to that. If they are going to renege on that agreement, I think minister should intervene. I think it is wholly inappropriate.”

The new urban quarter, Poolbeg West, is set to include supermarkets, cafes and a hotel, providing 700 new jobs.

Dublin Port Company, a state body, owns half of the Poolbeg development area.

A statement from the Department of Housing said:

“The Department & Minister remain absolutely committed to working with both Dublin City Council, any relevant housing bodies (AHB’s) and the receiver/developers of the Poolbeg SDZ area in securing additional social and affordable housing from this site over and above the normal Part V obligations and of the order of magnitude laid out in the adopted scheme.”

With reporting by Christina Finn

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    Mute Mike Clinton
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 5:00 PM

    Stayed in Limerick many times and never felt threatened or worried at all.
    Sound bunch of folk.

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    Mute Jacque Koffe
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    Jun 24th 2013, 4:54 AM

    I guess “Limerickman shot in face” makes for better headlines than;

    man shot at from a distance, a couple of pellets ricochet and hit him in the face.

    That’s what actually happened.

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    Mute Christopher Gardiner
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    Jun 24th 2013, 4:54 PM

    You don’t live here so you can’t really know can you. Spot on Mike. I live here all my life and I have never been in a fight here assaulted. Its all a myth to feed the press. yes crime happens here like it does in every county in Ireland.

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    Mute #whoarethegoons?
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:49 PM

    More bad news from limerick city, just when things seem to quieten down this happens. It’s very unfair on the majority of decent people there

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    Mute Pauric O Laighin
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:43 PM

    did you say,

    more bad news from Kerry last week?
    more bad news from Dublin?
    more bad news from galway?

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    Mute Mike Clinton
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:36 PM

    Some sick bastards out there.

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    Mute 'Bull' Mick Daly
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:39 PM

    Well he was hardly shot for doing charity work

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    Mute Mike Clinton
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:56 PM

    Yeah Mick I suppose you’re right but it’s still a savage thing to do.

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    Mute Aaron t
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 5:00 PM

    Is that what you said when Shane Geoghegan was murdered or what about Roy Collins? you dont know the full story yet so dont go around making stupid comments like that.

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    Mute 'Bull' Mick Daly
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 6:08 PM

    True Aaron I suppose,I apologise

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    Mute Gadfly
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:51 PM

    Shot in face and recovering well……………………

    a pea shooter was it?

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    Mute Fiona Walsh
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:57 PM

    Easy to take cheap shots. Spend some time with the people of limerick before you judge them. Violent crime is pervasive everywhere, but some choose to only comment on limerick. I wonder why?

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    Mute Joey JoeJoe Shabadoo
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 5:58 PM

    No, violent crime is not pervasive everywhere.

    For a city of a modest 90,000 inhabitants, it sure seems to have a disproportionate crime problem.

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    Mute Gadfly
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 6:39 PM

    the only thing disproportionate is the biased reporting and comments.

    Imagine 200,000 people living in limerick and not a murder in two years, show me a police force in the world who wouldn’t love those figures.

    Limerick is the safest city in Ireland.
    Dublin galway cork Waterford Kerry, Kildare etc have higher murder rates.

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    Mute Séamas Mac Fithcheallaigh Coirbéid
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:20 PM

    Galway does not have a higher murder rate. Every year for the past decade, Galway’s propotional rate of murders has been lower than that of Limerick.

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:24 PM

    galway has a higher murder rate…..

    there hasn’t been a murder in limerick in two years.

    guy murdered in athenry 3 weeks ago.
    American stabbed to death in galway city 16 months ago

    no murders in limerick in two years…………….

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    Mute Séamas Mac Fithcheallaigh Coirbéid
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:22 PM

    ‘there hasn’t been a murder in limerick in two years.’

    There were two murders in Limerick last year.
    http://www.limerickpost.ie/2013/06/20/limerick-has-highest-rate-of-sexual-offences/

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:28 PM

    I believe it suffers, at least equally, of a disproportionate level of negative media coverage

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:34 PM

    sorry,

    One murder in jan 2012, none since. The post also reports that limerick has the highest number of gards, it hasn’t.

    Galway has a higher murder rate than limerick this year and last year.

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    Mute Gadfly
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 5:08 PM

    seriously folks,

    what was he shot with? Think logically, put yere hatred aside………shot in face…recovering well a few hours later.

    It had to be a pea shooter.

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    Mute Tony Le Blanc
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 7:05 PM

    Gadfly: The bullet could have glanced off bone in his face? I read about a guy in NYC years ago who was shot twice in the head at point blank range. Both bullets ran under the skin along his skull and came out the back of his head without cause any major damage…….. other than two small puddles on his melon when it rained I’d imagine.

    Anyway, ballistics be a quayre yolk

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 7:06 PM

    Gadfly, most likely the chap who was shot was lucky. These criminals who have the guns are not usually professionally trained in using and storing them, they mostly hide them outside so im betting the bullet was damp thus nullifying its full power.

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:37 PM

    he was hit with a couple of pellets

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 10:48 PM

    Google “shotgun”.

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 6:22 PM

    Dublin is far worse than limerick

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    Mute BadDrivingIreland
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 5:07 PM

    The question is when will the idiots that run the country tackle gun crimes.

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    Mute Graham Mace
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 5:15 PM

    The way the idiots that run the country have their admiring noses up the arse of the USA, going by the yank circus in town last week, you are lucky that guns and ammo aren’t freely available at yer local Dunnes, Easons or Supervalu. Don’t expect any change in gun crime here any time soon.

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    Jun 24th 2013, 6:01 AM

    BREAKING NEWS

    In a ground breaking 60 second operation on a Limerick man surgeons in ULH have prevented two pellets from reaching his subcutaneous tissue by picking them straight off his skin.

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:55 PM

    Amazing,

    A double murder in Kerry, stabbings and shootings everyday in dublin cork galway and Waterford and the trolls on the journo wait for a limerick story………………

    ye get Anti limerick hatred comes mammas tits

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 7:48 PM

    Aaahh come on lads ya couldn’t bring the family to limbo!!

    Seen bloke getting chased with a machete while I was in a chipper after a night out down there!!

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    Mute Séamas Mac Fithcheallaigh Coirbéid
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:07 PM

    When was there last a shooting in Galway?

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:26 PM

    galway is just stabbings and kicking people to death.

    and raping kids

    and pedofile rings.

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    Mute Pauric O Laighin
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:37 PM

    jim that’s a lie……………..and you know it so that makes you a troll

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:44 PM

    @pauric.. I seen a bloke get chased with a large machete as I was waiting for my spice burger to be cooked…

    I haven’t retired to limerick since

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    Mute Jim Raper
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:48 PM

    *returned

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:49 PM

    I was gang molested in limerick. What a smelly inbred kip.

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:07 PM

    spice burger………….really

    you should have said chips………

    I know of no chippers in limerick that sell spice burgers

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:36 PM

    paul

    pity it you wasn’t the guy jim saw been followed with a machete

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 10:41 PM

    Man shot in the face

    Do you see?

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    Mute Jacque Koffe
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    Jun 24th 2013, 4:48 AM

    Acually, being pedantic,

    he was shot in the chest from a distance, a couple of pellets hit him in the face.

    I guess “Limerickman shot in face” makes for better headlines.

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    Mute John Fagan
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:40 PM

    The Limerick tourist board really have a job on their hands.

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:42 PM

    Limerick – best seen through your rear view mirror :D

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    Mute See My Vest
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:48 PM

    True. Cos nobody has ever been shot in any other county in Ireland. Oh… wait….. crime is everywhere.

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    Mute Richard Carroll
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:07 PM

    Only good things to say about Limerick City. Great pubs, clubs & restaurants. Had many great nights out there. Friendly people up for the craic.

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    Mute Tara Looney
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 5:30 PM

    In fairness I’ve been to all of the cities in Ireland and Limerick was the only one I wouldn’t go back to. It’s scary the type of people walking around there, I felt so uncomfortable.. I’ve got nothing against Limerick at all but yeah, I wouldn’t be rushing to move there..

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    Mute Brian Leddin
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 5:42 PM

    Seriously? In spite of its reputation it’s actually one of the safer cities in Ireland. Personally, I think it’s a great place with a lot going for it. A real problem is that crime that happens in Limerick tends to get exaggerated and over-reported versus crime elsewhere.

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 5:51 PM

    Never said anything about reputation but the actual feeling of being there!

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 6:48 PM

    Tara,

    You’ve never been to Limerick, if you had then you’d know that the people walking aroung middle abbey st/henry st/o Connell street/parnell st/ the boardwalk are the scariest people you’d meet anywhere.

    So you’re just trolling.

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 7:13 PM

    @ Tara. That was probably indigestion. Did you have a garlic/cheese chip at the Lobster pot?

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:04 PM

    Ah the lobster pot, brings back great memories. Ordering a curry chip then launching it at some other poor fecker who I thought looked at me funny!! Those were happy times!

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 8:07 PM

    Jeez Richie, they sound pretty happy alright

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    Mute Cliodhna O'Sullivan
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 11:26 PM

    God Tony the lobster pot is gone a long time ;)

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 11:30 PM

    Please Cliodhna…. just call me Tony

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    Mute Cliodhna O'Sullivan
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    Jun 23rd 2013, 11:31 PM

    Ok “Tony” ;)

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 6:14 PM

    Was there something in particular that scared you?

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 4:55 PM

    helloooooooooooo

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:16 PM

    It’s reported as a fatal shooting on breaking news ????

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:38 PM

    really?

    On the news where I am it’s reporting that he was hit with a couple of pellets and he’s sitting up in a hospital bed.

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    Jun 23rd 2013, 9:47 PM
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