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IF YOUR NAME is John Paul, and you were named after the last Pope, RTÉ wants to hear from you.
RTÉ One are planning to put together a documentary about people who were named after John Paul II visited Ireland in 1979.
One in 10 baby boys born in 1980 were named John Paul after the historic visit, which saw a quarter of the Irish population congregate at the Phoenix Park for his opening Mass.
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On Saturday 25 August this year, Pope Francis is to celebrate Mass in Phoenix PArk as part of the World Meeting of Families, a festival held every three years which explores the theme of family within the Catholic faith.
RTE are looking for a few ‘John Pauls’, who would now be aged around 38, to ask them for their opinion on Irish society now, Irish values and how the country is developing.
“The John Pauls were 10 years old for Italia ’90, 28 when the economy collapsed, 35 when the marriage equality referendum was passed,” producers said.
They’ve been ’80s kids, Celtic Cubs, Generation X and now the ‘squeezed middle’: their life stories mark four decades of change and insights into the country’s future.
If you’re a JP or you know a JP, contact the producers Maya Derrington at maya@animotv.ie.
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Serious comment here but can the pro-pope commenters on the The Journal explain to me how they explain to themselves why the RCC has not paid their abuse bill to the people of Ireland. The man is literally dripping in gold. How is this in the way of the teaching of Christ?
@DaisyMay: they still believe the confessional seal is above the law of the land. With that kind of logic there’s nothing you can say or do with ppl like that.
@DaisyMay: If you research the history of Western society you would know that while the Brits had the Royal family and the traditions of weddings with style,tradition and culture, we had the Pope so we made the best use of it. Despite what many people believe, those born in 1979 came into a country that was not wealthy but was bursting with confidence and creativity so many today are biting the hand that made their views possible -
For those looking for a secular utopia where they believe the State can legislate the electorate into happiness, that was tried before in Russia as communism by ripping apart all the creative and productive traditions of a society. In 1979 despite having f)ck all, the events were done with style and became a point of departure for a spirited nation that discovered their wealth was in a lost heritage of style that was buried under British rule.
Setting up the Catholic Church as a target has now grown old , most who go to mass are gentle and decent people whatever the hierarchy of the Church was and does.
@KEV: ” they still believe the confessional seal is above the law of the land”
The purpose of the confessional suits the Irish nature as it means people can express regret for something they did or did not do openly to another person so they can avoid saying sorry to the other person they offended. Nowadays they pay fortunes to shrinks to do the same thing.
@Gkell1: Wow,You need to get put more.People are a lot more enlightened now.They no longer FEAR the Catholic church and their backward and oppressive thinking so get down off your high horse and get into the free thinking 21st century.
@Tweed Cap: You are no fun but that is not a crime, in Ireland in the late 70′s and 80′s they could have a picture of the Pope and Elvis Presley on the wall as captured brilliantly by Alan Parker in a tribute to Irish perspectives at the time -
Having all the wealth today can’t make up for the fact that those who should be creative and productive are pushing an entirely negative extermination agenda. To be spiritual is nothing more than to be capable of being inspired and being inspiring so while the Church forgot that for centuries, it still survives in their congregations and outside of it, even among those who consider themselves atheists.
@John Killeen: “People are a lot more enlightened now.”
The ‘enlightened’ academics with their laws of nature/physics/motion/ became the new priests but offered nothing to their followers other than to live in their heads . Replacing sermons with lectures, entire generations have lost their individual intuitive balance which is present in all productive and creative societies. Many of you live by convictions that are not your own but a more balanced individual works the opposite way
“God works in us from inside outwards;
creatures work on us from the outside.”
Ruysbroek
@Gkell1: While I don’t necessarily agree with a lot of this, I do think that the majority of people who go to mass in Ireland are good people, however, the issue isn’t the people it is the hierarchy and the clergy. Do you not think that supporting this organization is even a little bit of a poor judgment considering its past in this country?
@DaisyMay: I’ve thought about this, and why the state actually don’t pursue this. It is down to the church being able to pass the guilt on to the state for this, as the people who were responsible (politicians, judges, guard, teachers, social workers) were all state employees who absolved themselves of responsibility by accepting that they had to, at all times, be compromised by the church. In that way, because we didn’t stand up against these bad people, we were accountable. I do think we should chase up these bad deals with churches, but ultimately redress to individuals is the most important thing.
@Costello Brendan: “Do you not think that supporting this organization is even a little bit of a poor judgment considering its past in this country?”
It took me about 20 years to work through the technical details where the Church became an organization of morals and almost an extension of this State’s legal system while recognizing that even today there are Catholics out there looking after the homeless and addicted in a society that mocks them. Today there isn’t a single Catholic in existence willing or perhaps able to untangle the issues that were never resolved around the Galileo affair when the Church jettisoned its astronomical heritage and that lack of engagement can be dismaying but I live with it.
There is a danger that a DUP mentality could emerge where people only know their culture by what they hate with the Pope and Church in this instance being the target so some balance is needed.
Does it count if my middle name is Paul? Am ready and willing RTE, the world needs to know what it was like watching Riverdance at age 15, and hearing about the white ear hair and back aches I have started to have in recent years. Take some more licence fee while you’re at it.
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