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'I'd have more money and less stress working in Aldi': Our new generation of frontline staff have had enough

We spoke to a garda, a nurse and a teacher who are just a couple of years into their careers – and already disenfranchised.

IN RECENT WEEKS we have seen protests by groups of gardaí and teachers over their pay, with unions and representative organisations saying their newest recruits are underpaid and undervalued in their jobs.

Some among this new generation of public servants are earning less than the living wage.

New frontline workers who spoke to TheJournal.ie this week said they are already feeling burned out and disillusioned in careers they only embarked upon a couple of years ago.

The Garda

Mick drives 115km each way, to and from work, which he said takes around three hours in total on top of his ten hour shift. He is married with young children and at the time he was placed in his probationary station, his wife had a permanent position in her job and they were already paying a mortgage on a house.

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“We have a sort of a structure there with the kids, we couldn’t afford to not be based there continually because her parents and my parents are there for childcare. We couldn’t afford to move where we don’t know anybody and pay for a creche five days a week.”

The weekly commute costs Mick roughly €120 per week, from a take home pay of just under €300 a week.

“Half of that goes into a joint bank account to pay for house bills, the creche for the kids, heating, shopping, stuff like that. I’m left with around €140 and after I pay for the diesel I have €20 to pay my own phone bill, road tax and other things. I’m continuously taking out more loans to stay above water,” he told TheJournal.ie.

When I joined Templemore initially, I was completely debt-free and now I’m in a fair bit of debt with no options. My bank account has been overdrawn since I left Templemore, it has never not been [since].

Mick is due to get an increment in his pay this year, but because of the implementation of the emergency financial legislation, known as Fempi, this is now unlikely.

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Members of the Garda Representative Union (GRA) have rejected the newest public pay deal, the Lansdowne Road Agreement, and once that came into effect last week, any groups who were not signed up to it were no longer protected from Fempi.

For Mick, it means he will lose out on around €35 a week, which he said would have made a big difference to his weekly budget.

It’s a massive amount if you have nothing.

“It’s causing a massive strain on me personally and then trying to do 13 hours a day, juggling family life and incurring more and more debt. All that on top of the massive workload in the station itself. And I’m doing the same job as every other guard,” he said.

€23,000 a year – I was making more than that 14 years ago. If I wanted to get a job in Aldi or Tesco I’d get more money and I’d be dealing with less stress. We’re dealing with violent situations, the sights you would see at some incidents, sudden deaths, suicides, stuff line that. And the government is happy to pay us this money for all that.

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Mick said he and his classmates in Templemore had been “full of confidence” when they left and headed for their probationary stations.

“Now we are in the same position, the way we feel about the job is the same as people who were in it for years.”

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Kate Finnamore is a nurse and mother-of-one based in Donegal. She earns just short of €500 a week for the 34 hours she works.

“I’m renting and billswise we’re alright, but my partner would have a bigger share of the bills because he’s on a better income than me.”

She said when she first started training as a nurse, she thought she would be “in a better place” than she is now, once she started working in the field.

“I would be disheartened. I have a car loan and other bills like health insurance. After you take all those expenses, there’s not a whole lot to play around with.

There are colleagues of mine who live at home and they have more disposable income for nicer cars or holidays. We really have to budget like.”

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Finnamore described her job as “very challenging” and said she often works later than her shift in the evenings to keep on top of things.

Then you’re racing down the road to try to get back to family life in the evenings. You miss an awful lot.

Though she said she feels like senior staff and managers appreciate the work she does, she does not think those running the country give graduate nurses the credit – or the pay – they deserve.

“I don’t feel rewarded when I come home in the evenings. My partner really enjoys his job so he feels fulfilled, he gets good pay, expenses. I don’t feel like I’m getting adequate remuneration for the job I do.”

It is disheartening.

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Many of the nurses Finnamore studied with have already gone abroad and she said a lot of other nurses she knows are making plans to move elsewhere.

“There are people in places like Canada and London and they have all these exciting opportunities – why would they come back.

When they look at the conditions of their friends back home, there is no enticement for these people to come back.”

The teacher

Jason Poole is 28 and works as a teacher at a secondary school in Finglas. He still lives at home with his parents as he can not afford to rent in Dublin.

He earns around €400 a week and he told TheJournal.ie he is “living from paycheck to paycheck with nothing left at the end of the month”.

In order to pay his college fees and for his post-primary teaching qualification, Poole had to take out loans totalling €25,000 which he is now paying back.

“After I’ve paid that and paid to keep the car on the road, I can’t afford anything. It’s very hard to even go on the odd night out with friends.”

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The young teacher counts himself as one of the lucky ones as the principal in his school ensured he got a permanent contract after two years.

“It’s very hard to even get that, most of my friends in schools are only doing six, eight, twelve hours maximum. Some are getting four to six hours for a few weeks and then they have to move to another school altogether. I find it tough, but I can only imagine how they feel.”

The way the rate of pay is for us compared to people we sit in the staff room with, I’m already €100,000 worse off in my career. That could be money off a house, that’s horrific.

Poole feels disheartened, he told us, that the government is enforcing the financial emergency legislation, which also puts a halt to salary increments for secondary school teachers.

“We’re told we’re in recovery and doing great, but they’re still using emergency legislation that was for recessionary times.”

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He does not believe the government appreciates the work he does with his students every day.

I’m in work from 7.30 for breakfast club, which is voluntary, and I stay for after school study and clubs. I don’t leave until 5.30 every day.

“We’ve been bullied for long enough, we’ve sat down for long enough and it’s had a huge impact on us – that can’t continue.”

This article was originally published on 10 July 2016

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:44 PM

    Im in the middle of doing an assignment on Bitcoin.

    My conclusion after reading – its the greatest bubble since 17th century tulips, but at least when your tulip lost all its value you still had a tulip.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:50 PM

    Tulips can’t be instantly sent to the other side of the world for zero cost without using a middle man. You can always get more tulips but bitcoin is finite.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:50 PM

    Eh, actually no, you didn’t.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 9:16 PM

    1000000 Bitcoin = 295,278,006,778 Zimbabwe Dollar

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    Jan 26th 2014, 9:50 PM

    I’ve read numerous articles about bitcoin and the more I read, the less I know or understand about it. Almost like a non existent fantasy currency that many will buy into only to lose it all.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 9:56 PM

    You picked an appropriate surname there, David.

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    Mute Nigel Sinnott
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    Jan 26th 2014, 11:43 PM

    Tulips are still a billion euro industry in Holland alone!

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    Jan 27th 2014, 5:08 PM

    Killian, I suspect you didn’t research too hard!

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    Jan 26th 2014, 9:27 PM

    I going to wait to see what Jim Corr had to say about before i buy any.
    Is it the currency of the fightback against the rothchilds and their like or a dead duck,no one knows but Jim.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:35 PM

    Early days, but this and other crypto currencies and especially the blockchain technology could help us end the financial terrorists grip on humanity..hope so, the future of our planet depends on it

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    Mute Joseph Siddall
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    Jan 27th 2014, 2:37 AM

    John Do, nope, future of our planet has no dependence on Bitcoin or any other currency. If Man disappeared/went completely bust/whatever tomorrow, the planet would carry on without us. It simply doesn’t matter whether we are here or not. It came into being without us and will still be here long after we’re gone.
    Whenever someone says; “It’s to save the planet”, you know they’re talking horse puckey and need a slap.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:39 PM

    The journal must have a serious mining rig going on in the office with all these articles about crypto currencies ;-) . Does the the journal accept bitcoin donations I wonder?

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    Jan 26th 2014, 11:38 PM

    I was thinking the same thing myself. I was thinking that the owners of the Journal were possibly early adapters to bitcoin and stand to make a fortune if the value goes up significantly!

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    Jan 27th 2014, 12:12 AM

    Virtual currencies will never work. Card less transactions will work as we are miving that way. But unregulated currencies are silly you you might as well invest in somali dollars lol.

    Fools and their money. ……

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    Jan 27th 2014, 8:09 AM

    I think the early/mid 2000s was the time to invest in somali shilling. But if you’re implying that national currencies are volatile, is this not more of a reason to pursue on line currencies?

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:49 PM

    Hopefully up to $10,000 a coin and I’ll be able to out the feet up for the rest of my life.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:33 PM

    It’s the one world currency and the mark if satan

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:33 PM

    *of

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    Jan 27th 2014, 9:22 AM

    Interesting. I would have thought that any new means of ‘currency’ that would challenge the xxxxxxx’s empire would have been quickly taken down (by all means possible) or taken over or maybe ‘they’ are behind it in the first place.

    Two families own over half of the debt/ money that exists today.

    Remember, anyone who has moved away from this debt based currency has had a bullet placed in their head.
    Dunno.

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    Jan 27th 2014, 12:47 AM

    Remember the sandwich shop rule:

    When the guy making your sandwich is talking about buying a commodity, that’s the time to sell all you have and cash out.
    “Gee Seamus, silver is really going to go up because of….(insert rationale here).
    “So how much silver do you want, Sandwich Man?”

    Bitcoin is approaching or has passed that critical indicator, in my opinion.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 10:57 PM

    I started mining bitcoins 4 years ago on 5 old pc’s in my comms room, running 24/7 :) good investment! only problem now is silkroad can’t be trusted and I don’t need a hitman

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:37 PM

    Bitcoin is AltaVista / BigFoot of the early 90′s. Quarkcoin is the Google of Crypto.
    Gold, Silver Crypto…way to go.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 8:50 PM

    Thank you. Head was wrecked thinking I heard of bitcoin in the 90′s. Did I? Cause I’m still not sure because in the article it says bitcoin came out in 2009

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    Jan 26th 2014, 10:37 PM

    I’ll break it down for you. I was making the comparison with the early search engines that died in the 90s. Google trumped the lot later. Other cryptos will trump bitcoin in due course.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 11:17 PM

    This still means I think I heard the words bitcoins years ago

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    Mute That's all folk's
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    Jan 26th 2014, 10:20 PM

    Blah blah blah blah. Bitcoin. Blah blah blah.

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    Jan 26th 2014, 10:45 PM

    Will change the way we trade.biggest invention of mankind since the internet itself.

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    Jan 27th 2014, 1:35 AM

    So if one bitcoin is worth €600 then it makes the cup of coffee in that Canadian coffee shop very expensive. And how do they give you change? Littlebitcoins ?

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    Jan 27th 2014, 1:53 AM

    If you’re sick of bank charges I suggest you read, research Bitcoin, get yourself a wallet (no cost…blockchain.info). Then in a week get yourself €10-€20.

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    Jan 27th 2014, 1:58 AM

    Decimalisation.

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    Jan 27th 2014, 8:52 AM

    The reason why Bitcoin is flourishing is because the financial framework the banks have in place in Ireland are prehistoric. Bitcoin and it’s protocols are the way of the future. Everything is going digital, why should currency be any different.

    In the bigger picture the history of the world shows us that governments control is really the control is money. Bitcoin takes done of that control back. But at the same time some regulation is needed for it to become truly mainstream.

    Bitcoin gives the power back to the people, it allows trade worldwide and transfer of funds in seconds with virtually no fees and no middle men – that can’t be said about any other currency.

    The fact Bitcoin circulation is capped unlike the € which can be printed anytime, the volatility will decrease over time. So although we have seen bubbles, in this case they will deflate – not burst completely.

    It takes some time to understand Bitcoin and how it has evolved, the more you learn about it the more you will conclude it’s cutting edge technology at the highest degree.

    With multi-million Euro investments throughout the world in this sector and at payments industry in general Bitcoin is here to stay. We are at the beginning of an exciting time – the digital age has really just begun.

    Irish Bitcoin Association.
    http://www.BitcoinIRL.com

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    Jan 27th 2014, 6:36 PM

    You need a better sales pitch, my friend.

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    Jan 27th 2014, 8:27 PM

    Any currency is finite if the controlling authority so wishes, money supply can be reduced as well as expanded. If bitcoin becomes “mainstream” what exactly would change? I’m genuinely interested. Having an extra/cheaper means of processing cross border transactions is hardly a new earth shattering idea. Trillions of dollars/gbp/eur/chf etc transactions take place “electronically” every day. Transactions costs in high value transactions between financial companies are tiny compared to what high street banks charge. How would bitcoin change that?

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    Jan 26th 2014, 11:44 PM

    I’m over bitcoin, 42coin from here on.

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    Jan 27th 2014, 5:04 PM

    Kittecoin is the new craze now….buy millions

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    Mute D
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    Jan 26th 2014, 9:27 PM

    More waffle. Anything to suck the life out of the average person.

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    Jan 27th 2014, 10:13 AM

    I’m adopting a wait and see approach to the currency. I personally feel that it’s not a currency (yet). It is a great online payment system though, and could give PayPal a run for their money.

    I do think as well that Bitcoin could be de-throned as the king of the cryptos if someone like Google were to introduce their own coin. It’s very early days in the crypto currency space, and I’m following it very closely.

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    Jan 27th 2014, 7:59 AM

    The next step is Kilobitcoin, then Megabitcon or they might decide to go Bytecoin but an octal based numbering system will take some time to catch on.

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    Jan 27th 2014, 5:11 PM

    There’s already a bytecoin

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