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ON 14 MARCH 2017, the four-person crew of the Rescue 116 helicopter went on its final mission.
More than four years after Captain Dara Fitzpatrick, Captain Mark Duffy, winchman Ciarán Smith and winch operator Paul Ormsby died in a fatal crash off the Mayo coast, an investigation report has found there were 12 contributory factors in the incident.
The helicopter was tasked to provide ‘top cover’ to the Sligo rescue helicopter, which was on a long-range rescue mission. R116 crashed after it struck Blackrock Island on its way to refuel at Blacksod.
A final Air Accident Investigations Unit (AAIU) report, published today, found that the probable cause of the crash was poor weather, the helicopter’s altitude and the crew being unaware of a 282ft obstacle on the flight path as it was not identified on the Flight Management System (FMS).
The 350-page report outlines in detail the events of the hours and minutes leading up to the crash.
Call to a fishing vessel
9.40pm: The maritime rescue sub-centre (MRSC) at Malin Head in Donegal received a phone call from the captain of a fishing vessel stating that a crew member had sustained an injury. The captain reported that one of the crew had lost ‘the top half of their thumb’.
The captain was told that a helicopter was being alerted, that it would fly to Blacksod and go out from there to the vessel’s location, 140 miles west of Eagle Island, off the north-west Mayo coast.
The commander of the Sligo-based helicopter R118 was contacted and informed that ‘top cover’ would be arranged. In long-distance rescues for rescue helicopters, ‘top cover’ is provided by a second aircraft to ensure communications can be maintained between the rescue crew and the co-ordination centre on land.
9.53pm: The Malin centre called the Dublin co-ordination centre stating that R118 was going to do a long range medical evacuation and asking whether the Dublin helicopter (R116) would be available to provide top cover.
There was a conversation about what would be required and the Dublin centre questioned whether a CASA maritime patrol aircraft from the Irish Air Corps (IAC) could be requested. Malin said it did not know if there would be a CASA aircraft available.
10:02pm: Malin contacted the IAC duty officer to ask about the availability of a CASA. The duty officer called back to advise there was no maritime patrol aircraft available at that time, but that one could be offered at 8am the following morning. Malin MRSC declined the offer and said they would make alternative arrangements.
Malin contacted the Dublin co-ordination centre again to request top cover and discuss the nature of assistance required. There was some discussion around refuelling in Blacksod.
Mission accepted
10:10pm: MRCC Dublin called the Dublin duty pilot of R116 for top cover for R118’s tasking. The Commander for R116, Captain Dara Fitzpatrick, accepted the mission and asked MRCC Dublin to alert the other crew members by TETRA radio call.
10:35pm: After all of the helicopter crew arrived at the Dublin SAR base, they had a meeting in the operations room and just over ten minutes later all four were on board the helicopter.
Before departure Captain Fitzpatrick expressed doubts to MRCC Dublin about the weather at Blacksod and indicated that R116 would route to Sligo instead of the Co Mayo site.
11.06pm: The crews of R116 and R118 had been in regular communication and winch operator Paul Ormsby told Captain Fitzpatrick that R118 was just about to land at Blacksod.
“Oh great, thanks, you might just find out what the conditions are like there as well,” she replied.
He checked and advised her “conditions good at Blacksod”.
Captain Fitzpatrick compared options of going to Sligo or Blacksod in terms of flight time and fuel and asked for a number of books, before deciding they would go to Blacksod.
“We’re not under any pressure so happy enough with that and look if we don’t get in we’ve got plenty of fuel to’; the co-pilot Mark Duffy interjected ‘get us to Sligo’ and she continued ‘get back so I’m just going to give you a direct to em Blacksod now. You’ll get a left turn’.
11:36pm: Captain Fitzpatrick told the crew she was “just going to re-familiarise myself with Blacksod…south”. The report notes that it is likely she was looking at a route index as she indicated she was going to add the route to the helicopter’s automated system.
‘It’s been a while’
11:52pm: Captain Fitzpatrick remarked that she did not believe she had been in Blacksod “in about fifteen years”. Winchman Ciarán Smith replied it had “been a while for me too, alright”. Fitzpatrick asked her co-pilot whether he had been there recently, to which he replied “No, not recently”.
The report states the fact that there was no further conversation on the topic at that time suggested they did not consider that the lack of familiarity was a risk factor that required further discussion.
12:22am: The flight crew discussed staying at a safe altitude until they were clear of land before reducing altitude over what they believed was open water.
12.24am: Winchman Ciarán Smith remarked that the high ground was “obviously in here somewhere”, to which Captain Fitzpatrick replied “Down here, this is our first point there, we go SDA, that’s kinda when we’re abeam Achill.”
The investigation report notes that Smith was the only member of the crew to raise the issue of high ground/terrain in relation to the automated route and that the flight crew seemed content that it did not warrant detailed consideration.
12.32am: The flight crew briefed for the arrival at the helipad at Blacksod. The investigation report noted that they did not appear to have considered Landing Site Directory obstacles.
Final moments
12:43am: The ‘before landing’ checklist was commenced. During this time co-pilot Mark Duffy stated: ‘starting to get ground coming in there at just over eight miles in the ten o’clock position’.
Duffy advised that there were “small targets at six miles eleven o’clock, large out there to the right”.
An ‘ALTITUDE ALTITUDE’ warning sounded and Captain Fitzpatrick told the crew “There’s just a small little island that’s BLMO itself”.
Winchman Ciarán Smith alerted the pilots that he was “looking at an island just directly ahead of us now guys”.
“You want to come right,” he told Fitzpatrick.
She asked for confirmation and he replied “twenty degrees right, yeah”.
Captain Fitzpatrick asked Duffy, the co-pilot, to select heading mode and he confirmed that was done.
Within one second of this acknowledgement, the report notes that winchman Ciarán Smith announced “come right now, come right, COME RIGHT”.
12:46am: The helicopter collided with terrain at the western end of Black Rock, departed from controlled flight, and impacted with the sea.
Several warning alerts could be heard on the recording as the last words – “we’re gone” – came from co-pilot Mark Duffy.
1.08am: Blacksod Lighthouse contacted MRSC Malin head as R116 had not arrived as expected at the helipad.
1.13am: MRSC Malin made a MAYDAY relay to all stations informing them that communucations had been lost with R116 and requested that any vessels with information contact them.
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It’s a disgrace that a 16 year old girl had to be begging adults to listen to scientists about climate change.
@FlyingDogThing: it’s a disgrace that politicians are listening to a manipulated child who ‘believes’ she can see carbon dioxide
@Seamus Hughes: Here’s Greta’s response to that…
“Of course the ongoing hate campaigns never rests…
There is at least one new conspiracy theory a day.
The latest – and perhaps most entertaining – spin is that ”I can see CO2 with my own eyes”.
This is of course a metaphor from a book taken out of it’s context, taken from a German newspaper.
No one has said that I can literally see CO2… that is beyond stupid.
This should of course not be necessary to mention but since some respected newspapers have written about this without realizing that this is a fake news campaign I thought it was best to point this out.
While I am at it I also want to point out that when I say that ”our civilisation is almost like a castle built in the sand” or that ”our house on fire” these are metaphors too:)
PS This book is written by my family and our earnings from this book will go to charity.”
@Seamus Hughes:
She’s the CO2 whisperer.
@Seamus Hughes: It’s a disgrace that you don’t have a basic grasp of science, and are intimidated by a teenage girl with Asperger’s who does.
@Seamus Hughes: SMRT…
@Seamus Hughes: don’t believe the hype there Séamus. That was disproved. Give her some credit.
@FlyingDogThing:
Hilarious..
https://youtu.be/46o7HP_De1M
@➕The Gray➕: You seem to be a Twitter bot.
@Paraic:
Is that a wild guess or are you another Journal troll with a mystic crystal ball that doesn’t work?
@➕The Gray➕: No fool. You claim it in your own subtitle. “Memetic Warfare”. Your tweets back that up. Would you mind retweeting this please?
@➕The Gray➕: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetic_warfare
@Paraic: Memetics is the study of information and culture. Why does information warfare ring a bell, wouldn’t have anything to do with Alex Jones would it?
@Paraic:
Do memes offend you, lol.
Wiki…hmm, what next, Snopes?
@Diarmuid Hunt: Memetic Warfare is the use of information and culture too manipulate.
@➕The Gray➕: It’s the Warfare part that I find offensive. Is that OK fool robot?
@Paraic: I know, just thought it was interestingly close to ‘Infowars’.
@Diarmuid Hunt: Take a look at this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
Also, the documentary movie “The great hack”.
@Paraic: Well, I couldn’t care less but you do have the right to be offended, safe spaces are big these days, go find one. :)
@Paraic:
Hahahahaha, your hitting the Twilight Zone now lad, keep going, this is gas reading.
@➕The Gray➕: Is that you Eliza?
@Paraic:
Nite nite Pajo, don’t forget to give your fave teddy a good cuddle now, wash away all that perpetual offence, good lad.
@➕The Gray➕: Don’t forget to keep flooding the net with fascist memes, there’s a good troll. Don’t stub you’re toe in the rock when you’re getting back under it.
@FlyingDogThing: We’re still only wheeling her out because we enjoy watching a child do the adults work. Realistically she is a marketing stunt, but a very good one at that!
@Seamus Hughes: Not your finest moment.
@Seamus Hughes: The sad thing is over 400 people agree with you!
Shes brainwashed and fed what to say. Sorry but it’s true.
@Jim O Brien – TechBuzz Ireland: She’s asking people to listen to what scientists are saying about climate change
You have to be either deeply ignorant or a religious fundamentalist if you want to ignore the science.
@Jim O Brien – TechBuzz Ireland:
….or have you been brainwashed by conspiracy theories and fake news??
You would agree a terrible attempt at ‘brainwashing’ if all she can come up with is ‘trust science’, or ‘act on your own experts advice’
@Tim Pot: But but but the guy on YouTube told me it’s all a conspiracy…
@DaveevaD: u say religious fundamentalist but the way people react when questions are asked about certain points of climate change makes me think they have their own version of fundamentalism going on. Nothing wrong with being cynical. Also Gretta met with president Obama yesterday I believe and he agrees with her that climate change is going to submerge coastal islands in the coming years so much he bought a $15m mansion on Martha’s Vineyard. Something amiss ni?
@Jim O Brien – TechBuzz Ireland:
Who’s her financial backers, follow the money.
@Diarmuid Hunt: LOL
You seem to be the kind of eejit that gets your nonesense from the likes of The Journal, RTÉ and of course 16 year old girls that are so ignorant and obnoxious they don’t even have to go to school to lecture the world.
@Rob Porter: And where do you get your information?
@Jim O Brien – TechBuzz Ireland: I’m selling tinfoil at a carboot sale this weekend if anybody is interested
@Rob Porter: Haha you think the TheJournal and RTE are my sources just from that, no wonder you’re able to jump to your own conclusions on ACC.
@Jim O Brien – TechBuzz Ireland: “sorry but it’s true”? As in her statements are true whether she’s just a mouthpiece or not? Spot on :P
@Gavin Conran:
Try the following for starters:
@FlyingDogThing:
Listen to the scientists :
Prof. Richard Linzen
Dr. Judith Curry
Dr. Rex Flemming
Prof John Christy
Dr. Roy Spencer
Prof. Ray Bates
Dr. Nicola Scafetta
Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner
Dr. Michael Connelly
Dr. Ronan Connelly
Dr. Peter Ridd
Dr. Willie Soon
@Rob Porter: There’s surely another few who disagree with the overwhelming majority, could you not find them and add them to your list?
@Diarmuid Hunt: Rob Porter, The Gay and Vote4Pedro are Pro-Life, anti-vaxx, tinfoil hat merchants, as per their Twitter feeds and past brainfarts on The Journal. They believe Jesus turned water into wine, the 14 year old Virgin Mary was impregnated by a ‘holy spirit’ and zombies that rose from the dead, science isn’t really their bag, a trio of absolute melts!
@Mairead1990: are you alright, Mairead?
I’ll pray for you.
@Mairead1990: That doesn’t mean I should let their illogical arguments stand unopposed though does it?
@Jim O Brien – TechBuzz Ireland: is what she says untrue?
@Vote4Pedro, the gray, rob porter etc: what has she said that isn’t true? Listen to your scientists and act on their advice??? Yup absolutely mad stuff.
@Rob Porter: And what makes their opinions more valid can i ask?
@Mairead1990: God bless u mairead, I had quite the laugh at that, I’m not anti-vaxx. I work in a scientific field actually but yes I do go to mass, I’m sorry if that helps. U seem angry, deep breaths and gently nod off to sleep and lay off the w(h)ine
@Vote4Pedro: theology isn’t s science just because it has ology on the end of it, I’m afraid. Given the lies you spout elsewhere on the thread, I seriously doubt that anyway.
@DaveevaD: Those scientists are selling an exaggerated lie, they are getting big funding, that Michael Mann the guy who started all this mess with the hockey stick graph was in court lately bringing a case against the founding member of Greenpeace Patrick Moore who said Michael Moore should be In state Penn instead of Penn State for spreading junk science, the asked me Mann to produce his work on this graph he refused that he was not on trial, he was then ordered to on the next sitting he still didn’t produce his work so the judge awarded all costs against me Mann. The latest news is he has lost them its starting to unravel. Another case was lost in Australia when a university sacked a professor for saying the great barrier reef is healthy. temperatures don’t follow co2, global temperatures are going down co2 going up, co2 is good for plants. The polar bears are doing fine numbers gone up to over 25 thousand from around 7 thousand. Antarctic ice is increasing as is the arctic ice. Over 33 thousand scientists have signed up in support of the scientists that are voicing concern’s on the unnecessary climate alarmism.
@brendan H: that much BS in a single post is actually impressive. Care to provide links to all that? No? Wonder why….
@Vote4Pedro: why do you go to mass ?
@Diarmuid Hunt: 33 thousand more in the scientists have signed a petition of support for the above named scientists. And this 97% was 97% of 75 scientists agreeing to consensus that man is changing the planets temperature. Its just a giant money making scam and its out of control from the junk science getting huge funding to industry making billions selling batteries,windmills and solar panels. Just have a look at youtube channel of tony Heller just be broad-minded and look at a dozen or so. he shows his work and more is available if you email him.
@brendan H: 97% of 75 scientists? Bull. 97% of scientists is correct as is 97% of peer-reviewed papers on climate change agree with ACC. Do a bit if research, their is plenty of evidence for that claim, at least 7 peer-reviewed papers on the percentage of consensus gave figures between 91% and 100%, with the majority hovering around 97%. Tony Heller aka Steven Goddard that has a degree in geology and electrical engineering, oh come of it. I don’t ask geologist for advice on climate change just like I don’t ask an electrical engineer for medical advice. Out of those 33’000 scientists how many have actual degrees relevant to the subject? There’s 4.7 million people with science degrees in the US alone, 33’000, that’s 0.007%. 1/2
@brendan H: You want to talk about financial backing from green energy companies and fail to mention the amount the petrochemical industries give to ACC deniers. I think you may have opened your mind so much that your brain fell out.
@Diarmuid Hunt: *0.7% sorry for the mistake. Also remember that is global 33’000 and US 4’700’000, the global number of scientists is larger again meaning the figure is actually <0.7%.
A child, remember that she is a child, that she is on the autism spectrum is a real cause for worry. Where are her parents, they “pushed”her on the world stage at 14, it’s totally unethical.
@Aine Power: You have it the wrong way, she ‘pushed’ her parents. She wants to do this, her parents were brave enough to encourage her. You should support that.
@Tim Pot: they have allowed her onto the political stage, where she will receive vile criticism from people with no horse in the race, that’s neglectful! Also, the reason they have allowed her to do this is because any tough questions put to her are shouted down with “leave her alone shes autistic”
@Aine Power: her parents are actors.
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree with Greta. She deserves an Oscar more so than a Nobel.
@Aine Power: The fact that she is has Asperger’s merely means that she possesses super powers. She tends to see things very logically and is highly focused on climate science. Science says, that our house is burning down. Logically, it makes no sense to her, that the house is burning down, and yet we aren’t acting with extreme urgency. A person with Asperger’s needs to reconcile this discrepancy. Logically, the only thing for her to do, is to explain to as many people as possible that the house is burning down and that they need to act. And to point out that whatever excuse they may have for failing to act, is not backed up by science. It’s Asperger’s that’s driving her, not her parents or anyone else.
@Aine Power: “ where are her parents?” Hahaha, I love it!
@Aine Power: Yet another keyboard warrior putting down someone that’s trying to do something positive for the planet while contributing nothing themselves. Your parents must be very proud that you are a Microsoft certified professional.
@Vote4Pedro: you mean tough questions like “scientists??? Why should we listen to them?”
She is incredibly impressive. A shoe in for a Nobel.
@Mike Rugby Nuts: what madness is this? She repeats the rehearsed lines fed to her by One.org.
If anyone should get the Nobel Prize for her performance it should be Bono, Larry Summers and all the execs heading up the globalist NGOs.
@Rob Porter: She has done more to save the planet in the past year than all of us gowls on here combined.
@Rob Porter: Bono deserves nothing.
@Mike Rugby Nuts:
Well, if Obama can get a Nobel for bombing the crap out of the Middle East & Libya, sure any on can.
@➕The Gray➕:
*one
@Badger the witness: speak for yourself, the ice caps are only still here because of me.
@Badger the witness: Save the planet? What are you talking about? You do realise that worst case scenario with climate change is that the planet becomes uninhabitable for humans, right? But the planet will still be there afterwards. Your turn of phrase is embarrassing…
@Edmund Spencer: At least his sentiment is in the right place, wish more people would realise that it’s not the planet we need to save, it’s ourselves/future human generations.
@Badger the witness: she’s done nothing bar spread millenarian anxiety amongst the youth at the behest of shameless NGOs and globalists.
@Rob Porter: done nothing else? So she hasn’t lied then? So what she’s saying is true?
@GrahamMManning: no it’s all bollox to anyone with half a brain
@GrahamMManning: no it’s all bollox to anyone with at least half a brain.
@Joseph Molloy: he deserves a smack in the gob
@Mike Rugby Nuts: thats really the problem here, suddenly its all about prizes, personalities, public profiles, media and ultimately advertising!
Cool the jets Greata, I like Ireland been 22°c in mid September!!
@Maureen: talking to a farmer a month ago and he said bring on the climate change, grass is exploding out of the ground haha
@Vote4Pedro: Hope those fields are not costs or might need to invent a new type of submersible tractor to take advantage of those amazing yields.
@Maureen: The usual brain dead argument. “I don’t care if the house is burning down because, it’s perfectly comfortable where I am.” (Hiding inside the fridge).
@Paraic: as a matter of curiosity, did you ever see a brain dead person having an argument?? Also, you must have a pretty big fridge to be able to physically get into it. I’d imagine the creation of it and the running cost of it is having a serious negative impact on the environment. Cop yourself on and store your perishable items in the bog like I do!!
@Maureen: Where did I say I was inside my fridge Maureen? You seem very confused.
@Vote4Pedro: that’s a lie, farmers only moan, they would never admit things were going their way
Ud swear she was the 2nd coming of christ the way people are treating her, how in all fairness does a 14 year old foreign child get to address the house without fierce backing from vested interests, and I dont mean true environmentalists. Theres serious money to be made from spreading terror about the forthcoming apocalypse, and this to me is a phoney war among 2 corporate sides of the arguement.
@Vote4Pedro: You are here > https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/08/27/this-16-year-old-girl-infuriates-me-confirm-angry-middle-aged-men/ You absolute melt!
@Vote4Pedro: and that’s why you should invest all your money in tin foil.
@Vote4Pedro: she is not 14! She is at least 16 years of age, and 16 year olds know EVERYTHING! Fact!
@Vote4Pedro: It must be awful for you not understanding how a young “foreigner” can already achieve so much more than you ever will. Ever stop to wonder why no one is queing up to sponsor your viewpoint?
@Vote4Pedro: Nope she’s what she says she is, unlike ur Jebus.
@Paraic: Technically to US Congress she is a ‘foreigner’ not that it makes one iota of difference where she’s from. Says more about the commenter than it does Greta by including that fact in their argument.
Does she not go to school?
And who funding all this campaign?
Travel. Food .Accommodation?
And is she going back on same boat to save climate change or a plane?
And is she been driven around in gas swallowing cars while there ?
Just wondering !!
@Kipper O Keeffe: You can argue the funding if you want but is there infrastructure in place for her to travel carbon-neutral all the time? This argument that climate activists use transport and aren’t living an ascetic lifestyle and are therefore hypocritical is ridiculous, if that option was there they wouldn’t have to be climate activists would they?
@Diarmuid Hunt: if you’re going to feed the trolls, give them vegan sausages. Drives ‘em nuts.
It’s interesting how the word science and scientist are used to prop up one’s argument. The fact is though that scientists are not unanimous on the origin of global warming. True, the bigger and louder part might be, but not all of them. And whose to say the bigger and louder part of them is correct?
Critical thinking is in order here. Hype, money and financial interests might be hiding behind this campaign. Following Greta blindly is not the way for me.
@Vit Raiser: 97% of scientists = 3% of scientists, got it.
@Vit Raiser: they’re louder cos 97/100 tend to be a tad more so than 3/100. Wanna try again?
@Diarmuid Hunt: baloney stats. utterly and thoroughly debunked time and time again.
You heard it from Obama right, and never thought to fact check it did you?
@Rob Porter: Ha ha! You follow Jim Corr on Twitter and Retweet him, sorry little boy, you don’t get to contribute to the adult conversation anymore!
@Mairead1990: lol – the authoritarian leftist streak doesn’t take long to come out.
The penny will drop for you in time.
@Rob Porter: I heard it from Obama? Obama has nothing to do with it for me, dont know why you’d try and bring him into it, almost like you have an agenda or something. Feel free to give me your source of where it has been debunked.
@Diarmuid Hunt: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2014/jun/06/97-consensus-global-warming
If you also read the paper by Cook et al. You’ll easily identify that the vast majority of scientists didn’t even bother to respond to his survey.
It’s a bit like sending a survey out to 100 people, and only three respond. Two say they like the taste of Barry’s tea over Lyons and then it’s proclaimed on that basis the majority of people surveyed agree Barry’s tea taste better.
Utter horse shite.
She is wonderful!
Did she not know not to say that?? They would listen to a Groundhog before they would listen to an expert.
Much of the Arctic has already melted – 12 billion tons melting in just one day -and without Earth cooler to cool Earth down and no ice to reflect heat back into space – global warming will supercharge at an even faster pace. Warmer air holds more water so more rain and warmer waters fuel even more powerful storms and hurricanes. In Antarctica too an ice berg size of Florida is already in its death throes melting from above and the bottom.
@GO GREEN: You picked the wrong website to be posting facts on. The Tin Foil Hate party will be along shortly to correct you based on that post they saw on Facebook that one time or whatever nonsense it is today.
@Gavin Conran: I know if they realized what is happening right now and in the coming years – they would be going crazy – but alas ignorance is bliss.
@GO GREEN: Will you ever cop on with that rubbish the arctic is doing fine, polar bear numbers are up over 25k from 6k. Antarctic ice is increasing where are you getting this silly info. Noaa and nasa have all the satellite info. The arctic calfs millions of tons every spring and summer daily, its stopped now because its getting colder, if the arctic didn’t get rid of its ice it would be piled up higher than mount Everest. Are you an adult with common since or a child with an active imagination listening to scientists who are selling the biggest scam ever for big funding because who would argue against them because they are scientists and every one else is not so believe what we say, but that is coming to an end now because other scientists are starting to question them. Listen to the other side of the argument.
@brendan H: Yes and maybe should look at the satellite data – Antarctica’s Ice Loss Has Reached 250 Billion Tons Per Year -https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/antarcticas-ice-loss-has-reached-250-billion-tons-year-180971280/
@brendan H: There is no other side of the argument only facts. You are the only child swallowing propaganda from vested interests. Burying your head in the sand won’t change the outcome.
@Bryan Yelahw: Pot kettle black how do you think is going to make a load of money from this so called man made climate scam, ya didn’t think it through because your head is buried deep in the sand. Open the mind there fella.
@Bryan Yelahw: you don’t have facts anymore than a parrot has opinions.
That’s the problem. You accept a narrative 97% of scientists believe AGW to be true save yourself the bother of fact checking this and then prattle on like you’ve researched the topic and have come to you own conclusion.
It would be hilarious if not so pathetic.
16 yr old with autism that knowns nothing
@Noel McGuinness: Ah I’d say you know how to tie your shoelaces Noel, don’t be so hard on yourself.
@Noel McGuinness: She’s able to put a coherent sentence together, which makes her slightly more believable than you
@Noel McGuinness: Bet she can spell and punctuate. Whats her autism got to do with it? Wanna try again?
@Diarmuid Hunt: May I add that she can do it in a language other than her mother tongue.
Shame on us humans, deny science and stats at your own peril.
@Gilly Mor: the only shame is you haven’t researched any of the stats yourself. That’s why you latch on to a child’s nightmares to clothe yourself in virtuous sanctimony.
@Rob Porter: You think your ability to interpret the stats is better than somebody who has studied for years in the field? If you go (re)searching you can find “evidence” for the world being flat.
@Diarmuid Hunt: if your understanding of stats is equivalent to your week rebuttal. I’m on safe ground.
@Rob Porter: I prefer to leave that in the hands of those qualified enough to understand what they are looking at, have collectively agreed on what the data says and have the ability to put it into context for the rest of us rather than a Joe soaps personal take if it’s all the same to you.
Much in the same way i listen to my doctors instead of people’s personal opinions when it comes to my health.
The only real shame lies with people with no formal education in the sciences and no research whatsoever conducted of their own try to educate the rest of us on how they are right and those with an actual clue what they are talking about are wrong.
@Rob Porter: No answer, just deflection, you’re in your safe space not safe ground.
@Gilly Mor: humans have been in denial at their peril since time began and will continue to do so till the end of time, anyone who thinks humans will change is in denial too
Meanwhile whilst the little people pay a carbon tax “JPMorgan Chase, which is America’s largest bank and the world’s most valuable by market capitalization. In the three years since the end of the Paris climate talks, Chase has reportedly committed a hundred and ninety-six billion dollars in financing for the fossil-fuel industry, much of it to fund extreme new ventures: ultra-deep-sea drilling, Arctic oil extraction, and so on.” https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/money-is-the-oxygen-on-which-the-fire-of-global-warming-burns
@GO GREEN: “When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realise that one cannot eat money.”
@Shakka1244: and when the last trope has been used, along with any semblance of originality or independent though, you’ll no longer be able to rely on irrelevant analogies.
Just stop! go there and talk to them!
Asia, Africa Cause 90% Of Plastic Pollution In World’s Oceans
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/90-of-plastic-polluting-our-oceans-comes-from-just-10-rivers/
https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/07/26/asia-africa-cause-90-plastic-pollution-worlds-oceans-13233
@Born to be wild!: How many plastic reprocessing facilities are there in Ireland?
when you answer that question, where does all your plastic waste go?
when you answer that question, where does the plastic waste from most wealthy countries goes to?
Meanwhile Trump is opening millions acres of forest in Alaska to logging and mining https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/trump-administration-chooses-most-expansive-approach-to-oil-gas-exploration-in-alaska-wildlife-refuge/2019/09/12/cfac63cc-d597-11e9-9610-fb56c5522e1c_story.html
@GO GREEN: shouldnt we be more concerned with the lungs of the world being chopped down so our euro economy benefits with car sales and cheap beef?
@Vote4Pedro: Which is why I was one of the first to keep on tweeting about it
@Vote4Pedro: The Amazon is not the lungs of the world. It’s actually very close to been carbon neutral due to the vast array of wildlife within it. It’s the oceans of the world that are the lungs of the world creating in the region of 60% of the oxygen within our atmosphere.
@Vote4Pedro: Can we not be worried about both?
People are more likely to believe in superstitions than 97% of scientific fact. Watch out for those ladders, salute a lone magpies and if you’ve broken a mirror I feel for you, 7yrs.. unluckly
Attacks on the messenger by many commentators here. A 16 year old girl that’s brave enough to take her message to the world. I find it pretty disturbing and extremely worrying.
@Shakka1244: They’re fundamentalist Catholics, easily manipulated by conspiracy theorists like Gemma O’Doherty, incredibly dumb individuals who performed poorly in school and with relationships, now they just want to watch the whole world burn because their feelings are hurt.
@Mairead1990: To be fair when you use that kind of rhetoric you do more harm than good.
@Diarmuid Hunt: Mairead’s entire outlook is coloured by the red-tinted progressive glasses that view any opinion as invalid if it does not ideologically align to her own cause.
This is the embryonic mentality that leftists use to justify things such as expropriation, collectivisation and gulags once their ideology gains traction. If you don’t conform to the puritanical worldview then you are guilty by association and your opinions, voice and rights cease to exist.
@Shakka1244: she’s not a messenger for anyone except her actor parents and the executive board of One.org.
@Rob Porter: I see the same sort on the right, it is not a right/left thing, you have just used the same kind of generalisations to paint everybody on the left with the same brush as she did to the right. You’re two sides of the same coin if you ask me.
@➕The Gray➕: “Does this slow-down in the warming mean that the idea of anthropogenic global warming is no longer valid? The short answer is ‘no’.” Copy and pasted from the link you shared, just because there’s a lot of text and most people won’t bother to read it, and the url seems to back what you want to believe doesnt make it true. Try harder.
@Diarmuid Hunt:
What do I believe Diarmuid? What are you getting all hysterical and uppity about? I posted a link to some scientific data ye clown.
@➕The Gray➕: ‘Hysterical and uppity’ and ‘clown’? Dont go melting before you make your counter-argument. You did post a link to some scientific data, which agrees with ACC, so you do believe in anthropogenic climate change as your link suggests?
@➕The Gray➕: Also despite your attempted insults I’d like to thank you for posting that link, it’s very interesting and gives many reasons as to why a slowdown in the rising temperatures could have happened while ACC is the driving force behind the long-term rise in temperatures. Considering your other posts on this thread it was a beautiful own goal.
@➕The Gray➕: You got merked son. LOL.
@➕The Gaay➕: Ha ha! Taxi for you sonny!
@➕The Gray➕: The link you posted is about Microwave sounding satellites. They measured the heat of the atmosphere in the microwave region from space. Satellites can be affected by cloud cover, volcanic haze and radiation in space. They are not accurate.
How do I explain this Satellite versus thermometer thing?
It is like trying to count the number of people in Croke Park by Satellite versus directly counting the number of people who entered the stadium at the turn styles.
These Satellites are far inferior to direct weather station measurements, on the ground, thermometers are Gold Standard of directly measuring the temperature of the Earth.
Thermometers on the ground show no pause is warming.
http://berkeleyearth.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/decadal-with-forcing-small.png
Cult member. Im sure David Koresh’s followers thought the same.
@Nowa Huta: She bases her beliefs on modern science, David Koresh based his beliefs on the writings of archaic middle-eastern nomads, definitely the same thing.
@Diarmuid Hunt: to a child they wouldn’t know the difference.
It’s all indoctrination. End of.
@Rob Porter: So at 16 you had no cognitive ability? Come on, you have obviously grown in your cognitive ability since then but to suggest teenagers know nothing is just downright stupid.
She’s amazing. Go Greta!
No shortage of the usual ‘she’s being manipulated’ trolls on here who can’t take the fact that she’s a more caring person than they are.
@Keith O’Reilly: Not to mention far more intelligent, none of these trolls passed their Leaving Cert.
@Mairead1990: have u facts to back dat up love?
@Vote4Pedro: “have u facts to back dat up” – it’s self-evident by the horrendously poor syntax and grammar from your tinfoil hat brigade!
@Mairead1990: stop embarrassing yourself, Mairead. You’re looking desperate.
She’s amazing. Go Greta.
Trump will no doubt comment on her appearance and that he will be dating her in 2 years time
When the last tree has been cut down… Funny that. There doesn’t seem to be joined up thinking with regard to climate change if planting trees and creating ecosystems for bees is a good thing. Trees are being cut down left right and centre while we are being told the planet is at crisis point and we need to pay carbon tax and stop eating animal products. There is no consistency. We eschew local produce for something that has flown across the world after being grown in far less favourable conditions. The mind boggles. Greta probably means well but her Asperger’s might not help her see through less genuine campaigners who are riding the gravy train.
I am waiting for them to inbleach Trump..It will be good TV.
@Marty from Sligo: inbleach???
@Tony Lyons: it’s a Scandinavian term. Essentially means to bath someone in bleach.
@Maureen: and build a wall around him to make sure none of it escapes!
Go away. Enjoy your chikdhood…..
@Leo Lalor: Her issue is that eventually others after her won’t get a chance to enjoy their childhood due to the actions of their predecessors. Fairly noble to give up her own childhood for the sake of others’.
@Diarmuid Hunt: by taking a large expensive carbon producing cruise across the Atlantic or jetting here there and everywhere. This puppet is just a sideshow distraction . Her parents should be reported to childline.
It’s fine Greta. U have nothing interesting to say
Scary how many twitter bots are in the comments here. Just shows how important she is when people invent fake accounts to make it sound as though there’s a lot of people against her.
Just remember folks, you’ve descended to the comments section of a Greta Thunberg article. Expect vile attacks on the girls character from a bunch of know it all conspiracy theorist. Like sharks to chum.
Austistic children are exceptionally intelligent…and she is a credit to the human race…this young girl is trying to make us all see the damage thats being done to our planet..she should be supported and applauded…you only have to listen to the scientist’s and if thats not enough have a good look at the catastrophic w3ather events over the last 5 years all over the world..
@Marianne: completely agree other than the first line. That very much depends on the kid.
Amazing how many bots in the comments here. Goes to show the lengths people will go to disprove facts. If they are creating fake accounts to make it seem as though a lot of people agree with them it’s not really working either.
It’s hard to believe Ireland is one of the better educated countries in the world reading these comments.
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