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The Irish For Baby name trends - is Ireland that different to other countries?

Darach Ó Séaghdha looks at the latest baby name trends abroad and asks if we have our own ideas here in Ireland.

RECENTLY, NAMEBERRY, A website devoted to baby names – released its predictions for the top baby names they expect in the UK in 2022.

Drawing on patterns seen in “fashion-forward celebrity parents”, popular TV shows such as Bridgerton, and social trends (such as changing attitudes to a binary understanding of gender), they anticipate a spike in names such as Pixie, Bear, Regé and Blair.

Is Ireland likely to follow these trends? Thanks to the excellent CSO baby names database, it is possible to identify distinct patterns in the rise and fall of certain Irish baby names since 1964, which gives us a clue to what the future might hold.

The notions effect

It is widely believed that impressionable young parents are inclined to name their baby after a favourite celebrity – an idea famously explored in the 1990s movie Clueless where the teenage characters were all named after iconic 1970s singers like Cher, Elton John and Dionne Warwick.

This would never have happened in Ireland however, where names are more likely to drop sharply once they are directly associated with a single celebrity or fictional character.

For example, the name Lauren was on the rise and the 7th most popular girls’ name in Ireland in 1996 when the Fugees released “The Score”. The following year it dropped to 10th place and has been sinking ever since.

Olivia was one of the most popular girls’ names of the 1970s – until the release of Grease. It dropped from 4th place in 1975 to 60th place in 1978. More recently, Elsa was on a steady upward trajectory until the release of Frozen, dropping from 37 births in 2014 to 18 the following year. I could go on, but ultimately Irish parents are mortified at the thought someone might think they had the “notions” to name their child after a celebrity.

When there are a few celebrities or characters with the same name popular at the same time, like Prince Harry and Harry Potter, this rule doesn’t apply. This gives hope for Saoirse to hold steady into the 2020s.

The Scrooge McDuck effect

Much has been written about the rise of the name Fiadh in the 21st century (including by myself). But one aspect has not been given much consideration before.

Remember Scrooge McDuck’s nephews? Of course, you do – Huey, Dewey and Louis. Names that sound similar even though they are spelt differently. Their parents clearly liked the way they sounded more than what the names meant, and what’s the harm in that?

In the 1990s and early 2000s, Leah enjoyed a spike in popularity. As it waned, Mia became more popular, lurking in the top 20 girls’ names since 2009. And as Mia slowly recedes in popularity, Fiadh’s rise continues – how much of this is down to the fact that parents like a name with an -eeyah sound? Are Bea or Rhea next?

A similar pattern can be seen in boys’ names beginning with R and ending with N, with Rian, Rían, Ruan, Ruadhan and Ruadhán all rising in the 2010s as Ryan became less popular.

Noah and the rise of the unabbreviable name

Noah came out of nowhere to become one of the most popular boy’s names of the 21st century in Ireland, and while Noah Wylie was in ER when the name first appeared on the CSO list in 1996, it is unlikely that that was the reason.

What can we learn from its popularity? First of all, it rode in on an international wave of Biblical names in the late 1990s and early 2000s – Samuel, Isaac, and Elijah also spiked at this time.

Unlike those names, however, Noah doesn’t lend itself to easy abbreviation and has held its own statistically while Sam, Sammy, and Samuel are counted separately. This is probably why Jack and Conor have stayed in the top 10 for as long as they have, and partly explains the recent rise of Grace.

Global Trends

Oliver has been holding steady as the most popular boy name in England and Australia for a number of years but has only broken into the top 20 once in Ireland (in 1975) since records began. Possibly the name’s association with Cromwell is a turn-off for parents here. Either way, name trends follow a different trajectory here, most obviously with the popularity of Irish ones.

In 1990, half of the top ten girls’ names were from the Irish language (Sinéad, Ciara, Niamh, Aoife Aisling) but only one in 2020 (Fiadh). However, in 2020, four of the top ten boys’ names come from Gaeilge (Conor, Finn, Liam, Fionn) compared to two in 1990 (Shane and Seán).

But rather than jumping to the conclusion that Irish language names are rising in popularity for boys and dropping for girls, we can see that Irish parents are far more daring naming their daughters – four of 2010s top five boy names were still there 10 years later and the other, Sean/Seán only dropped out because the database started recognising fadas. There is also significantly more spelling diversity with female names – Emer/Eimear, Maeve/Medb/Medhbh, Sive/Sadbh/Sadbh which means that a phenomenon like Noah is less likely to happen.

So whatever names take off in the rest of the world, in 2022 we can expect Irish parents to recoil from anything that’s a bit too showbiz, lean towards new names that sound a little bit like the ones that were popular a few years ago and to continue to cherish names from Irish.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:19 PM

    Who the €&€& is Bono

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:22 PM

    John, that’s the last time I include you on my Table Quiz team.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:49 PM

    @John Mcloughlin: Short, arselicking, gloryholer who’ll cosy up to any homophobic, anti-woman, christofascist if it gets him access.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:55 PM

    @John Mcloughlin: God?

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:56 AM

    Tried to say he was an oral faeces but The J.said twas bad language

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:38 PM

    “voiced his willingness to work with him in fighting terrorism.”

    Someone should tell them all that peace will never be achieved through war!! They probably already know that, but make too much money from invading other countries!

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    Feb 18th 2017, 10:57 PM

    u.s. just loves drone strikes. killing at a distance and go home for tea

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:20 PM

    The Russian view of the world seems to be that they are first among equals because they occupy the biggest land mass andown more ballistic missiles than almost everyone else.
    Is it any wonder that Nato exists when you have leaders like Putin waving a flag in one hand and his ‘willy’ in the other.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:23 PM

    GNP of Russia is the same as that of Spain…..Perhaps NATO and the US exaggerate their power a little…

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:30 PM

    @John003:

    Russia has a history of overplaying it’s hand when weak and under playing it when strong. Putins Russia of today is no different

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:40 PM

    @John003:

    Well those figures are just wrong, and if Spain had the 5th largest military in the world and tried to annex Portugal they would draw more attention.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:50 PM

    Yes, John, but Spain doesn’t have about 10,000 nuclear warheads and a million or more soldiers, as well as having troops occupying territory (outside of military instalations) in three countries other than itself.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 4:17 PM

    If the west continues to sanction Russia war is the only inevitablity…

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    Feb 18th 2017, 4:24 PM

    Behind the scenes, this is what it’s really all about. A very dangerous game that will inevitably end in WW3 if not taken seriously. What we read in newspapers, or see on TV is merely entertainment.
    by Mike Whitney
    “The Flynn fiasco is not about national security advisor Michael Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador. It’s much deeper than that. It’s about Russia. It’s about Putin. It’s about the explosive rise of China and the world’s biggest free trade zone that will eventually stretch from Lisbon to Vladivostok. It’s about the one country in the world that is obstructing Washington’s plan for global domination. (Russia) And, it’s about the future; which country will be the key player in the world’s most prosperous and populous region, Asia.
    That’s what’s at stake, and that’s what the Flynn controversy is really all about.”
    Read more :
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/02/17/blood-in-the-water-the-trump-revolution-ends-in-a-whimper/

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    Feb 18th 2017, 4:44 PM

    @Charlie Fogarty: Sorry figure is incorrect In 2016 figures Russia GNP is equal to that of Italy…

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:13 PM

    Russia is a waning regional power, a failing petro-state with a collapsing population.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:27 PM

    @Diarmuid: Stop spreading fake news.

    In Russia the fertility rate is rising. According to the World Bank it rose from 1.34 in 2009, to 1.54 in 2013 and is currently at 1.60. This rise is almost unique in Europe.

    Since President Vladimir Putin acted to address the problem, Russia has been one of the few countries in the western hemisphere to have registered a stable rise in its fertility rate.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 7:27 PM

    John003…Thats not even close to being right. The GNP of Russia is more in line with Germany

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:07 PM

    Kenny you might want to tell that to ordinary Russians that are seeing their lifestyles degrading with each passing year.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:41 PM

    @Mick Jordan: Mickey another Fake News regurgitating troll;

    There is no aspect of contemporary Russia that has changed more rapidly and unexpectedly than its economic situation. When Vladimir Putin became President, Russia was effectively bankrupt as it owed more money to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) than it had in foreign currency reserves. Since then, Russia has achieved a virtual macroeconomic revolution to the point where it is one of the largest creditors of U.S. debt in the world. Its nominal dollar GDP has increased by more than a factor of six, and has the potential to reach more than $2 trillion by 2010. Growth of this magnitude would equate to nearly a ten fold increase in GDP over the course of a decade.

    In early 2009, the Ministry of Economic Trade and Development published an ambitious plan outlining Russian economic goals to the year 2020. If these goals are reached, Russia would become the largest economy in Europe and the fifth largest in the world following the United States, China, Japan, and India.

    -CSIS

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:58 PM

    Ken. All I see is reports 6-7 years old. Things have changed considerably since then. Oil and Gas prices of dropped considerably since then. And as the majority of Russia’s income comes from them so has its GDP.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 9:16 PM

    @Mick Jordan: Things are going really well for Russia today, don’t unquestionably believe everything you read in the anti-Russian MSM and it’s fake news spreading news agencies, of which the Irish MSM is as guilty as any.

    You probably won’t have read or heard this for instance,

    In 2011 Russia became the world’s leading oil producer, surpassing Saudi Arabia;

    Russia is the second-largest producer of natural gas;

    Russia holds the world’s largest natural gas reserves, the second-largest coal reserves, and the eighth-largest crude oil reserves.

    Russia is also a top exporter of metals such as steel and primary aluminum.

    The government since 2007 has embarked on an ambitious program to reduce this dependency and build up the country’s high technology sectors, but with few visible results so far.

    The economy had averaged 7% growth in the decade following the 1998 Russian financial crisis, resulting in a doubling of real disposable incomes and the emergence of a middle class.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 9:58 PM

    Sounds like a Trump sound bite. “Things are going really well”. While back in reality it translates to “things are going down the toilet rather fast”.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 10:22 PM

    @Mick Jordan: Another one with an armchair degree in mass media brainwashing.

    Donald Trump is the President of the United States of America, you LOST – now get over it. : )

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:07 PM

    I remember only 20 years ago that the US media were portraying China as an economy on its knees. Mick probably still believes it.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:32 AM

    @Pat O’Dwyer: The game hasn’t changed much since the last time Russia tried to rule Europe and were stopped in their tracks by a vigilant alliance of smaller nations supported by America.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:40 PM

    Bono would want to shut up for once!

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:54 PM

    Free speech …. it’s a right in a democracy!!

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    Feb 18th 2017, 7:02 PM

    In my opinion Bono is the greatest statesman of his generation in Ireland head and shoulders above any other Irish person about today.

    I also appreciated the free album on my phone !

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    Feb 18th 2017, 7:12 PM

    @David O’Brien: Check out this prize a$$hole Boknob here slagging off Trump at a concert before he was elected President;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn2h05zO-Fg

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:47 PM

    Bono is a dick plain and simple

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:56 PM

    @David O’Brien: I believe the correct term is a Pox.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 9:49 PM

    Well they’re many way to describe this lad in fairness

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:09 PM

    Two big egos on the one stage. “Good people are not going to stay silent as you ruin the American Dream” says Bono to the big screen shot of Trump before the election, attacking his plans on immigration. He’s been very quiet about Trump since he won, eh?

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:44 PM

    @David O’Brien: Dec 11 2011, on Fox News station.
    Huckabee, interview with Bono on Fox, tonight.
    Huckabee. “You done a remarkable job, I want to say thanks on behalf of all human beings around the world for… advocacy that has led to the saving of literally millions of lives and I wish you the very best and aaah, one other thing. You have a knack for getting people of wide political variances together, we might need you to run for presidency.”
    Bono. “Im going to say, that would be a very scary moment for the world, Mmmm . You on the other hand, I think would bring thee, the Reagan like statesmanship that’s so missing.”

    Makes you sick…

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:58 PM

    So Bono supports Trump???

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:15 AM

    During the campaign he attacked on stage as part of the concert, addressing a big video of Trump. (See above link). That attack featured on the U2 website. Since Trump’s victory, with unprecedented public demonstrations and denunciations from artists of all types Bono has been noticeably silent. Maybe he is cooking up a savage and inspiring anti-Trump work of artistic genius for the upcoming Joshua Tree tour. Or maybe he’s waiting to see which way the wind blows…

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:10 PM

    His street name is 50 pence

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:19 PM

    @Goldberg: does that make any cents?

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:23 PM

    If I had a dime for everytime someone told me that….

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    Feb 18th 2017, 10:04 PM

    Sorry for bugging your phone Angela but some of the lads think your a Russian sleeper !!!

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:57 PM

    @john g mcgrath: A Russian sleeper, MORE like one who sleeps around a lot with the corporate sector?

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:11 PM

    Pence is one of Bomo’s new friends.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:57 PM

    Since when did musicians get invited to international political summits? Anyway, I suppose trump gets bragging rights. Hillary only got beyonce, team trump got bono

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:24 PM

    Because Bono campaigns on behalf of the one campaign that he works on. He’s not just there for show, much to people’s belief.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:55 PM

    @Michael Flanagan: The campaign to raise millions so people can have expensive lunches to advocate on behalf of a poverty awareness raising campaign? Spend a couple of grand on an iPod so a fiver goes to Red to pay for a 5 star lunch where the wealthy are made aware that poverty exists!

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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:48 AM

    @Daisy Daisy: Wow….how cynical are you? Did you listen to his speech? It was actually very good. He didn’t have to be there, or formulate that speech, he could just act like Conor McGregor or someone. Yes, it’s a little embarrassing for some Irish people to see an Irish rock star doing this, but Bono doesn’t care about being embarrassed, that’s why he’s a rock star and you’re not

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    Feb 18th 2017, 4:41 PM

    Russia has to “prove itself”. I’d say the west has to prove itself at this stage. At least you can’t blame Russia on destroying the entire countries in Middle East. The fact of their presence in Syria is a consequence of political and moral weakness. I’m sure in a lot of countries people would love to have a president like Putin with he’s independent view, actions and strength he has.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:34 AM

    @NsSNBbTZ: Russia has already proven itself as the schoolyard bully…..

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:10 PM

    Seems to be a continuation of Obama policy back to the cold war with Russia…..John McCain and the neocons have won the argument…No policy change under Trump…

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:11 PM

    John003. How many times are we going to have this debate. Putin began the New Cold War over two decades ago. GW Bush was President when he began it. So it is not “back” to anything but a continuation of a situation of Putin’s making.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 3:15 PM
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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:04 PM

    “Each country defined by it’s sovereignty” The words of Lavrov the Russian Foreign Minister. Absolutely hilarious and utterly hypocritical. When they invaded and annexed the sovereign territories of its neighbours.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 8:37 PM

    Anyone courting votes with the old sovereignty line has gold sovereigns in mind, & into their personal offshore account is my guess.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 5:05 PM

    Seems strange for the VP to take such a prominent rile in this engagement and comtradict much of what Trump has been saying for months . Connection with Comey meeting and expected developments perhaps ?

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    Feb 18th 2017, 6:58 PM

    Pence was checking out the “bono” fides!!!

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:30 AM

    Just when you thought Bono couldn’t be more of a crawler and annoying dick. He’ll be praising Mugabe next.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 10:00 PM

    Bono. FFS!

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:46 PM

    All this proves is Merkel is the President of the EU as every darn head or headbvck of a country meets her when it has anything to do with the E.U. Why?

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:15 AM

    Credit where credit is due. Bono was finding common ground. A good move.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:44 AM

    @Annie Citric: Yes! Unfortunately we have too few people even attempting to find common ground. We know Pence was into gay conversion therapy, but that doesnt’ mean he doesn’t care about say starving babies in Africa. Nobody’s perfect but also nobody’s 100% flawed either…I’m sure there are some Nickelback fans who give to charitable causes.

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    Feb 18th 2017, 11:29 PM

    Bono should STFU. Nobody in the trump cabinet deserves any praise whatsoever.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:41 AM

    @mrmeade: I’m anti-Trump but that statement is ridic… It’s kind of like saying all refugees are terrorists. You really think out of all the people in his cabinet, none of them have ANY good traits or ideas?

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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:40 AM

    Listen to Bono’s speech. I was skeptical and cynical about him too but his speech was brilliant

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