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Giving birth in the 1960s 'All the mothers were terrified of the doctors and matron so we never asked any questions'

‘Was I traumatised? I don’t know – back then you just had to get on with it,’ writes Ava Stapleton.

A RECENT ARTICLE on childbirth reminded me of the birth of my first child in the Rotunda hospital fifty years ago.

I selected the Rotunda because it was rumoured at the time, that if the pregnancy went wrong and it came down to a choice – they would prioritise saving the life of the mother. 

It was believed that other Catholic maternity hospitals would do the opposite.

On your first antenatal visit, you were sent to the dental clinic which was next to the antenatal ward. If any of your teeth looked like they needed a filling or any sort of treatment, the dentist insisted on pulling them out – so I lost two teeth on that first birth. 

Since scans didn’t exist, a deep and painful internal exam was performed on every visit. 

All the mothers were terrified of the doctors and matron so we never asked any questions.   

As soon as my labour started I went to the hospital. My husband was told to go home as there were no visitors allowed in until after the baby was born. 

I was given an enema and after that, I was put on a bed and pushed down a long corridor. The walls were lined with green marble cubicles which had no doors and there was a high bed in each cubicle. I was put on that high bed and there I lay for twenty-four hours, in pain. 

The only distraction was to read messages scrawled on the walls of the cubicle, by former patients. The messages were mostly complaints about men being responsible for the pain they were feeling and how ‘it was well for them to not be able to have babies’. 

Nurses looked in now and again and did internal exams but rarely spoke.

Eventually, after many hours the matron appeared and my legs were hoisted up over my head and strapped either side of the bed onto two metal bars. 

Then the Doctor entered with a scissors and cut my vaginal opening. Throughout all that time I was never offered any pain treatment but soon after my legs were unstrapped I was given a gas mask. 

Fifty years later I can still remember the horrible taste and the feeling of hovering somewhere above the bed. 

My baby was born healthy and I was given four catgut stitches. 

Shortly after we were both brought to the postnatal ward. Where I was offered tea, toast and a light for my cigarette.  

Was I traumatised? I don’t know, back then you just had to get on with it.  

Visiting time was very strictly enforced. Parents and friends could visit at 2 p.m. and evening times were for the fathers.

But having waited in Colon’s pub across the road, many of the new dads would arrive at the hospital drunk and so there were always one or two rows in the ward – culminating in the offending father being ordered out by the staff.

Like every other mother back then, I was kept in for two weeks. During that time we were taught how to bathe our babies and how to breastfeed properly. 

Whether we needed it or not we had to drink a large disgusting glass of some tarry concoction to move our bowels. And later on, we all had to lie on our bed and carry out exercises to strengthen our internal organs.

After five days the catgut stitches were removed, again without any painkiller. These stitches were so strong that often more damage was done taking them out than inserting them.  

But salt baths, we were told, cured everything.

Cleanliness was held in very high regard and everyone had to stay in bed until the ward was cleaned and inspected by the matron – but since everyone was allowed to smoke,  including the visitors, the cleaners could never get rid of the smell.

Lung cancer is very prevalent in Ireland and you have to wonder if all the passive smoking by the nation’s babies in the maternity hospital’s played a part in that?

But of course, back then we didn’t know the dangers. 

Each maternity hospital had its own rules, so us Rotunda mothers felt seriously deprived when we learned that the Coombe allowed all the new mothers to have a night out before they were discharged.

The nurses took care of the babies.  

There have been many changes to maternity care since I had my first child.

These days women have more choices and can choose the type of birth, home births, water births and so on. Those who can afford private care can even choose their own doctors and team. 

Nowadays mothers are encouraged to walk around during labour while we were made to lie on our backs and not move.

Other massive improvements are epidurals and painkillers, being allowed to ask questions, anti-natal classes and having your partner with you in the labour ward. 

Being pregnant is no longer treated as a sickness which it was in my day.

But reading the report about all those women who phoned into Joe Duffy, it strikes me that the care itself doesn’t seem to have improved. 

Back in the 1960s we were treated like children and I felt very disempowered but at least I was well looked after and went home with all the skills I needed to take care of my baby

Obviously, in my mother’s day, things were very different again. My own poor mother had thirteen children and back then, the registrar used to go around the ward as soon as a baby was born and you had to give her the name for the birth certificate.   

My mother, having given birth only an hour beforehand, couldn’t think of a name for my brother. So baby Stapleton was inserted on his birth certificate. 

It was only when my brother needed the cert to get married that he realised his official Christian name was ‘baby’ and it was a terrible job to try get it changed in time for the wedding.

Ava Stapleton is a retired counsellor who continues to provide counselling in her local community on a voluntary basis.

She is a mother of five, grandmother of twelve and also has three great-grandchildren.  

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    Mute Lynne Anthony
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 7:45 AM

    Jesus in the garden, you can’t help but cringe while reading this.

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    Mute Shelly O'Shea
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 7:35 AM

    Oh my God. That’s horrific

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    Apr 22nd 2019, 10:49 AM

    @Shelly O’Shea: It was not everyone’s experience of the Rotunda ,my mother said it was the only rest she got when she was in having her babies all seven of us

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    Apr 22nd 2019, 8:22 AM

    It doesn’t seem like everything was negative. I presume the 2 weeks stay was to protect the new mothers away from having to do house work etc as soon as they got home. I imagine enlightenment in a lot of households was limited at best. The night out seems a strangely human touch too.

    Was all medicine relatively barbaric back then and as a result any treatments seem gruesome ?

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    Mute Paula Mackie Senior
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 7:46 AM

    Fair play – you had 4 more! My experience was very different as my *labour* only lasted 20 minutes. I was delivered by a nun and she was a decent ould skin!

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    Mute Aine O Connor
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 9:19 AM

    I was surprised to read that the writers Mother had her children in a Hospital. In my Mothers era they were all home births . The TV series “Call the Midwife “ gives a very accurate portrayal of life at that time. Even in my own era beginning in the early sixties it was quite common for babies to be born in a Nursing Home where I had my two first sons.I had to hire my own midwife, the baby was christened at 3 days old, brought to Church by my husband and the midwife only. On both confinement’s I spent 9 days in NH. My room was large with two bay windows as it was previously a large private house.The baby was cared for at night by the Nurses from 10pm to 9am the following morning. In fact my experience was very positive.

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    Mute FlopFlipU
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 10:55 AM

    @Aine O Connor: If you had the money

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    Mute Aine O Connor
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 12:36 PM

    @FlopFlipU:
    Actually it was my Medical Insurance that covered my stay. No cost to State.

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    Mute June Fardey
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 10:54 AM

    What is also shocking is that smoking was permitted on the Wards. It seems such an alien concept now.

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    Mute John Lynch
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 11:28 AM

    The Christian Brother angle has obviously been flogged to death.
    Now it’s the nuns. When are Joe Duffy and his imitators going to run out of “Oh those terrible nuns stories” ?

    The fact is that the religious orders provided education, health and leadership – for no pay . The British administration did as little as possible and were only too pleased to let them do it.
    If the religious orders handed the Government the bill for their services it would turn the tables on redress question. (BTW – a plundering operation)

    The reason Ireland became uber-Catholic post independence was because the freedom fighters turned on each other and wrecked whatever the British hadn’t

    The RC was the the only institution which retained credibility

    One of my grandmothers lost 4 children out of 15. The other had her appendix operation on the kitchen table. Who’s the blame? Nobody – others were living and dying in far worse conditions

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    Apr 22nd 2019, 8:20 AM

    Hadn’t changed much in St Finbarrs Cork in the 70s….

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    Apr 22nd 2019, 9:05 AM

    @Angela O’regan: Am a Bons baby myself, have never heard any stories from there..

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    Apr 23rd 2019, 9:30 AM

    @ianglen: what age are you ,my children would be horrified if I told them.

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    Mute Patricia
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 7:46 PM

    Okay so at least wr had a rest. I feel sorry for mothers who are discharged after 24 hours not in a fit state to look after themselves or a baby

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    Apr 22nd 2019, 10:04 AM

    Jesus wept, only got as far as the gas mask and stopped reading, horrific.

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    Mute Paul
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 10:25 AM

    Brings back memories.
    I remember the strong smell of carbolic soap and cigarette smoke

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    Apr 22nd 2019, 11:07 AM

    @Paul: I went to a hop most weeks in the Blinder and all you smell there was carbolic soap as well and your man the priest going around with a stick leavening the couples apart

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    Apr 22nd 2019, 9:36 PM

    Well to be honest at least they had care for 2 weeks. Many new mothers don’t have the skills to take care of a newborn and it can be a very difficult time. Plus the lack of sleep & hormones is a great recipe for postnatal depression. But yes the maternity care is way better now. Thank god…

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    Apr 22nd 2019, 7:02 PM

    Answer to John lynch. You did not live in an institution, I did . Life was cruel and hard . So f—k the nuns . Mickey Dodgers.

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    Apr 23rd 2019, 3:43 AM

    My Mother had no problems with the Rotunda Hospital and neither did I in fact I thought all the nurses were so nice and the Matron came around making sure were alright …

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    Mute Pat Lackey
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    Apr 22nd 2019, 8:46 AM

    All my Children were born in the Rotunda in 60s and one Daughter is The Lead Lecturer in Midwifery in a University and I would love to share this with her.

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