Support from readers like you keeps The Journal open.
You are visiting us because we have something you value. Independent, unbiased news that tells the truth. Advertising revenue goes some way to support our mission, but this year it has not been enough.
If you've seen value in our reporting, please contribute what you can, so we can continue to produce accurate and meaningful journalism. For everyone who needs it.
Trump announces 'decisive and powerful military action' as strikes start in Yemen
Like NASA in a west Dublin suburb: Behind the scenes on the Dancing with the Stars set
Dublin primary school facing closure in April due to 'massive underfunding'
feeding the trolls
Debate Should Twitter do more to protect its users from trolls?
While calling out abusive trolls, author and feminist Lindy West said the real reason she’s leaving Twitter is because Twitter itself refused to do anything substantial to protect its users.
Lindy West announced her departure from Twitter in a Guardian column this week, writing, “It is unusable for anyone but trolls, robots and dictators.” But West’s breaking point wasn’t the actual online bullies, it was Twitter’s refusal to stop them.
“The white supremacist, anti-feminist, isolationist, transphobic ‘alt-right’ movement has been beta-testing its propaganda and intimidation machine on marginalised Twitter communities for years now – how much hate speech will bystanders ignore? When will Twitter intervene and start protecting its users?” she wrote.
But should Twitter do more to censor abuse on the platform? We ask two commentators to tell us their views.
I joined Twitter back in 2009. It was all fields then; pastures full of hope, jokes grazing happily beside streams of information and potential.
I got to read stuff I mightn’t have stumbled across otherwise. I got to interact with people I might not have met under ordinary circumstances and established friendships that spilled into real life. It was fun.
Even in those early days, I had guidelines. No Twitter “debates”: the 140 character limit and public nature of it meant any nuance got lost. Pointless. And trolls? I mainly ignored trolls. For one thing, my follower count was low so I wasn’t getting many. I’d just block.
I used to reason that if you opened a door to even the most beautiful view a few slugs could get in. A few slugs were worth a great view, right? But what if the owner of the garden decided not to keep on top of the slugs? What if, when you opened the door, the view was obscured by the slimy feckers? That’s kind of how Twitter seems right now.
This week, Lindy West, one of my favourite troll-slayers, left Twitter. I hope she’ll be back, but I understand why she left. A comedy writer and feminist, founder of the #shoutyourabortion tag, and someone who stands up to fascism, she has been trolled unmercifully for years. In her excellent book Shrill, she recounts meeting the man who set up an account as her dead dad. It’s as enlightening as it is shocking.
West was expert at what she called “feeding the trolls til they explode”. When you are deluged with abuse (if you’re a woman, person of colour, or have a high follower count, you’re far more likely to be) you can’t just ignore it.
You block; they set up new accounts. Don’t engage? Silencing. It keeps coming. Quietly taking punches alone wears you down. So, I’ve decided to take a leaf out of her book.
I recently left Twitter for a few weeks. People said “That’s letting them win!” But leaving felt like power to me. You could pre-script a lot of the abuse – bless them, they’re pretty repetitive – and why stay where the banter’s boring?
Advertisement
But I missed my Twitter pals. I came back. I’m still assessing whether fun outweighs slugs but this time, without reservation, I share abuse. I shame, reply, ignore – whatever I feel like doing in the moment someone tweets it at me.
“Don’t give them oxygen. Block and report.” The people who say this mean well, but are never in the demographic for repeated, personal, gendered or racist abuse. They don’t understand. They’ve not sent numerous reports to Twitter, for what is clearly threatening language, and got the stock “this does not violate our terms” reply. You’re on your own, kid.
It seems there are no repercussions from the platform, no one reading the reports, unless they make the press. They say they’re making progress in tackling abuse and that may be your experience, but based on my own, I’m not convinced regular users matter to Twitter – especially now they’re set to be a presidential mouthpiece. Though, frankly, it almost seems unfair to single Twitter out when mainstream outlets are currently platforming “hilarious” racism and misogyny.
Basically, if your beloved local starts holding Hitler Youth meetings and Grab Women By The Pussy nights, you’re entitled to ask them not to. If they still want to hold them, fine. But they better know you’re looking for another pub. There are always pastures new.
NO. Lorraine Courtney is a journalist and very reluctant Tweeter.
Sadly it’s kind of inevitable that when you create something like Twitter, however good your intentions, there are going to be some sad little people out there ready to subvert your good intentions and find a way to throw a spanner in the works.
This doesn’t mean that we should blame the platforms themselves necessarily. On a smaller scale, it’s just an every day proof that there is a lot of bad people lurking in our world. I wish there wasn’t but then I turn on the news and see their actions.
Lots of people, even those on the far left, would argue that even hateful speech deserves the opportunity to have a platform when others have the choice not to listen. Although Twitter’s definition of what constitutes one user’s abuse of another on its service is famously airy fairy, and its crude block and mute tools still put the onus on individuals to ensure their own experience, us users do generally have some control over what we are exposed to.
I know Twitter has a trolling problem, but apart from making humans not nasty, or altering the privacy settings on Twitter and removing the heart of what makes it unique and useful, it’s hard to know how to fight it.
Ultimately all of these sites have their dark sides, because they reflect the kind of people we are. Self-obsessed, cynical, restless. Occasionally brilliant and occasionally evil. You see it’s like Andy Warhol’s prediction coming true and now everyone can have a self-important opinion for 15 minutes.
I’m a journalist. I’m published online and people call me out on stuff all the time. Sometimes it’s deliberately hurtful; sometimes it makes sense. Occasionally it even changes my mind.
But Twitter, just like the Internet itself, can never and should never be policed in any meaningful way. Social media reveals to us base impulses, impulses that are sometimes ugly and aggressive. But unfortunately it’s only channeling what is already out there in the real world.
What do you think? Is Twitter too soft on online bullies and trolls? Let us know what you think in the comments below.
Readers like you are keeping these stories free for everyone...
A mix of advertising and supporting contributions helps keep paywalls away from valuable information like this article.
Over 5,000 readers like you have already stepped up and support us with a monthly payment or a once-off donation.
Unless there is a North Korean working at Sony Studios. These are more than likely advanced screener videos for critics and award purposes that have been leaked out by staff themselves and found their way into the wrong hands.
This has publicity stunt written all over it. “Let’s release 4 rubbish films and blame it on a hack from the country our possibly good film is about. That will stir up free advertising”. And it has, reading this and other articles.
Apart from Annie they’re all films with legit Oscar intentions. Mr Turner played in the Cannes film festival and Timothy Spall will likely get a nominations for Best Actor.
It’s actually not (unless they’ve changed the law in the last two years), I checked with INFACT who are in charge of copyright infringement in late 2011.
It’s illegal to download audio (music), however it’s not illegal to download video as long as you don’t distribute it (seed torrents, sharing, burning disks etc).
Personal use is totally legitimate as long as no distribution occurs.
The day is coming where all entertainment will have to be released globally at the same time, people don’t wanna wait for months to see a movie which is spoilt by people on social media giving away the fecking start middle and ending !!!
Yeah it’s not great. Fury is one of the best films I’ve seen in a while and worth the price of admission. Worth seeing in the cinema for the better sound.
Trump announces 'decisive and powerful military action' as strikes start in Yemen
Updated
1 hr ago
36.9k
Shiny Floor-Show
Like NASA in a west Dublin suburb: Behind the scenes on the Dancing with the Stars set
14 mins ago
257
Tallaght
Dublin primary school facing closure in April due to 'massive underfunding'
22 hrs ago
51.7k
94
Your Cookies. Your Choice.
Cookies help provide our news service while also enabling the advertising needed to fund this work.
We categorise cookies as Necessary, Performance (used to analyse the site performance) and Targeting (used to target advertising which helps us keep this service free).
We and our 157 partners store and access personal data, like browsing data or unique identifiers, on your device. Selecting Accept All enables tracking technologies to support the purposes shown under we and our partners process data to provide. If trackers are disabled, some content and ads you see may not be as relevant to you. You can resurface this menu to change your choices or withdraw consent at any time by clicking the Cookie Preferences link on the bottom of the webpage .Your choices will have effect within our Website. For more details, refer to our Privacy Policy.
We and our vendors process data for the following purposes:
Use precise geolocation data. Actively scan device characteristics for identification. Store and/or access information on a device. Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development.
Cookies Preference Centre
We process your data to deliver content or advertisements and measure the delivery of such content or advertisements to extract insights about our website. We share this information with our partners on the basis of consent. You may exercise your right to consent, based on a specific purpose below or at a partner level in the link under each purpose. Some vendors may process your data based on their legitimate interests, which does not require your consent. You cannot object to tracking technologies placed to ensure security, prevent fraud, fix errors, or deliver and present advertising and content, and precise geolocation data and active scanning of device characteristics for identification may be used to support this purpose. This exception does not apply to targeted advertising. These choices will be signaled to our vendors participating in the Transparency and Consent Framework.
Manage Consent Preferences
Necessary Cookies
Always Active
These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work.
Targeting Cookies
These cookies may be set through our site by our advertising partners. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. If you do not allow these cookies, you will experience less targeted advertising.
Functional Cookies
These cookies enable the website to provide enhanced functionality and personalisation. They may be set by us or by third party providers whose services we have added to our pages. If you do not allow these cookies then these services may not function properly.
Performance Cookies
These cookies allow us to count visits and traffic sources so we can measure and improve the performance of our site. They help us to know which pages are the most and least popular and see how visitors move around the site. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. If you do not allow these cookies we will not be able to monitor our performance.
Store and/or access information on a device 109 partners can use this purpose
Cookies, device or similar online identifiers (e.g. login-based identifiers, randomly assigned identifiers, network based identifiers) together with other information (e.g. browser type and information, language, screen size, supported technologies etc.) can be stored or read on your device to recognise it each time it connects to an app or to a website, for one or several of the purposes presented here.
Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development 141 partners can use this purpose
Use limited data to select advertising 111 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times an ad is presented to you).
Create profiles for personalised advertising 83 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (such as forms you submit, content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (for example, information from your previous activity on this service and other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (that might include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present advertising that appears more relevant based on your possible interests by this and other entities.
Use profiles to select personalised advertising 83 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on your advertising profiles, which can reflect your activity on this service or other websites or apps (like the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects.
Create profiles to personalise content 38 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (for instance, forms you submit, non-advertising content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (such as your previous activity on this service or other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (which might for example include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present content that appears more relevant based on your possible interests, such as by adapting the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find content that matches your interests.
Use profiles to select personalised content 34 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on your content personalisation profiles, which can reflect your activity on this or other services (for instance, the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects. This can for example be used to adapt the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find (non-advertising) content that matches your interests.
Measure advertising performance 132 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which advertising is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine how well an advert has worked for you or other users and whether the goals of the advertising were reached. For instance, whether you saw an ad, whether you clicked on it, whether it led you to buy a product or visit a website, etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of advertising campaigns.
Measure content performance 60 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which content is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine whether the (non-advertising) content e.g. reached its intended audience and matched your interests. For instance, whether you read an article, watch a video, listen to a podcast or look at a product description, how long you spent on this service and the web pages you visit etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of (non-advertising) content that is shown to you.
Understand audiences through statistics or combinations of data from different sources 74 partners can use this purpose
Reports can be generated based on the combination of data sets (like user profiles, statistics, market research, analytics data) regarding your interactions and those of other users with advertising or (non-advertising) content to identify common characteristics (for instance, to determine which target audiences are more receptive to an ad campaign or to certain contents).
Develop and improve services 83 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service, such as your interaction with ads or content, can be very helpful to improve products and services and to build new products and services based on user interactions, the type of audience, etc. This specific purpose does not include the development or improvement of user profiles and identifiers.
Use limited data to select content 38 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type, or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times a video or an article is presented to you).
Use precise geolocation data 46 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Actively scan device characteristics for identification 27 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors 90 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Deliver and present advertising and content 97 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 72 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 53 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 86 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 68 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
have your say