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The Irish For... Why do feelings run so high around the letter V?

Is V a cheeky stowaway in the Irish language? Darach Ó Séaghdha takes a look.

This the latest dispatch from our columnist Darach Ó Séaghdha, author of the award-winning and bestselling Motherfoclóir. Every Sunday morning, Darach will be regaling (re-Gaeling?) us with insights on what the Irish language says about Ireland, our society, our past and our present. Enjoy.

WHEN AN TAOISEACH confirmed that he would like to be addressed in Irish as An tUasal Leo de Varad, some eyebrow were raised about the use of a certain letter. It’s not unprecedented for the name of a Taoiseach (think of De Valera) and not especially recent (think of De Valera) and yet the letter V is still seen by some as a cheeky stowaway in the Irish language, a two fingers at its heritage. But why do feelings run so high about this letter?

Vox Hiberionacum: The first written reference a specific Irish identity, meaning “voice of the Irish”, is found in the Latin writings of Saint Patrick and includes a V (which would have been pronounced as a W). Latin script was used for centuries in Ireland before the Gaelic alphabet, so Vs were widespread in the Book of Kells and other medieval texts.

Bhí/Ubh: The main argument against V is that v-sounds exist in Irish without it, typically expressed with a bh or an mh. Bhí the past tense of bí (to be) and ubh (an egg) are cases in point. So why aren’t we saying De Bharad and De Bhalera instead of De Varad and De Valera? Well…

Bainne/Mo Bhainne: One reason we wouldn’t substitute a bh for every V sound is that the H that follows a B or an M serves a grammatical purpose, such as a séimhiú in possessive nouns (mo bhainne, my milk) or the past tense in verbs (bhásaigh sé, he died). So replacing a V with a BH might confuse a reader; is An tUasal Bh—— belonging to someone or trapped in the past?

Ó Cuív: The move to include a V is often credited to Shán Ó Cuív, grandfather of the politician and co-author of An Leitriú Shimplí in 1907, an attempt to simplify Irish spelling. This was roughly contemporaneous to George Bernard Shaw’s campaigns to simplify spelling in English – he famously declared that fish could be spelled ghoti if you used the gh from tough, the o from women and the ti from election. Irish, unlike English, is a language that tries to live by its own rules. Ó Cuív made the decision to apply his own simplified spelling to his own name (he had previously been known as Ó Caoimh).

Vótáil: The Irish for voting is vótáil and this is the term used in the 1922 constitution, which came out between the two editions of Dinneen’s classic (eighteen letter) dictionary. So the forbidden letter was already in use before its official inclusion. What did people call voting before then? Dinneen lists the term ceantáil, which can also mean selling something by auction- hardly an appropriate word when thinking of Irish democracy.

Vac Vac: In 1959, Tomás De Bhaldraithe’s English to Irish dictionary was released, and this formally included the letter V. Entries included onomatopoeic words, such as this entry which translates as “quack quack”. It also included loanwords such as veist (vest) and veilbhit (velvet).

Svaidhpeáil/Tvuít: Despite protests from purists, the letter V still finds its way into new Irish words in 2018. As these entries (meaning swipe and tweet) show, one of its most popular uses is replacing a W in new loanwords. So why is a V deemed acceptable but not a W? Bhuel, we have to draw the line somewhere.

Darach’s new book Craic Baby is the follow-up to his acclaimed Motherfoclóir and has just been published  under the Head of Zeus imprint. He runs @theirishfor Twitter account and the @motherfocloir podcast.

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    Oct 30th 2021, 6:22 PM

    Totally peeded of with putting it forward and back. Why can’t we just leave it forward so we still have brighter evenings where I can get things done in daylight after finishing work. Can’t do nothing in the darkness!!

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:09 PM

    @Brian Kelly: be dark at nearly 10 in the morning if they are left.

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:12 PM

    @Brian Kelly: what time do you finish work that it would still be bright?

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:21 PM

    @Brian Kelly: because the sunrise would be close to 10 am in mid winter with no advantage a night time.

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    Oct 30th 2021, 6:21 PM

    Just means the kids will have us up at 5am instead of 6am

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:44 PM

    @⚡ Seánie ⚡: those were the days, now we have to wake them up

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:46 PM

    @Tom kenny: its a lot better!

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    Oct 30th 2021, 10:53 PM

    @Derek Moran: jaysus, it’s mighty

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    Oct 30th 2021, 6:05 PM

    I’ve 4 waines under 6yrs that will remind me

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    Oct 30th 2021, 6:53 PM

    We will be going back an hour a day when Sinn Feinn in power .

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    Oct 30th 2021, 6:56 PM

    Yawn !

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:16 PM

    And the last 100 years of FG/FF ?

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:29 PM

    @Karl: yep you will be tired of going back to been the poor of Europe with these gombeens

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:34 PM

    Yep because it’s all been rosey under the administrations in power… SF might not be the cure and I don’t think protest votes help anyone but the threat of them should get FF/FG to get their $h!t together.

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:42 PM

    I see the former housing minister is creaming €450 a day as an election observer wonder how he got that job?

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:48 PM

    @Dave Byrne: do you know how hard these guys work? Wait a minute, politicians, not those guys.

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    Oct 30th 2021, 8:57 PM

    @Dave Byrne: as bad as FF and FG are Sinn Feinn are the bottom of the barrel everyone knows that .

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    Nov 1st 2021, 12:18 PM

    Obviously not David, because they topped the red sea poll this week, just maybe (just maybe) you are slightly prejudice and need to vent a little

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    Oct 30th 2021, 6:38 PM

    You will lose an hour of your life listening to people reminding you to put them back..

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    Oct 30th 2021, 10:10 PM

    Excellent . Totally forgot. As I tuck into he for work in the morning . What a lil surprise.

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    @slfc21: bed*

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    Oct 30th 2021, 7:18 PM

    I’m alright Jack. Have me fux capacitor fired up and ready to go.

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    Oct 31st 2021, 10:48 AM

    This is 2021 – a smartphone never forgets! :-)

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    Oct 31st 2021, 6:58 AM

    If you work nights do you gain or lose an hours pay??

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