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Support for Government up as Fianna Fáil TD says his party is 'facing demise'

Support for Sinn Féin fell by four points to 17%.

DEPUTY ÉAMON Ó’CUÍV has said that Fianna Fáil is suffering from “an absolute collapse in self-belief”.

The grandson of Éamon De Valera, who founded the party, made the comments about the party to the Sunday Independent.

It comes as a RED C poll in the Sunday Business Post shows support for Fianna Fáil is unchanged at around 18%, while support for the Government has increased.

Fine Gael went up 3 points to 27% and Labour went up 3 points to 10% - this is the highest level of support both parties have had in a year.

Support for Sinn Féin fell by four points to 17%. It comes after the party faced further sex abuse allegations this month.

Independents and Others are on 28% – down 2 points.  That figure also includes support for Renua Ireland on 2%.

The poll was conducted among 1,000 voters earlier in the week.

Read: Just what exactly is going on with Fianna Fáil? (And is Micheál Martin safe?)>

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    Mute Tony Skillington
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:19 PM

    FF are reaping the harvest they sowed..Irish people have woken up to what politicians in this country are really about

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    Mute Aidan Kelly
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:30 PM

    And have hence switched their support to FG.

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    Mute Dot Com
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:40 PM

    Ó’Cuiv, Starting a Heave.

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:44 PM

    They brought it on themselves in believing their own lies over the state of the country during the so called boom years. They should have reaped the harvest instead of the whirlwind created by a lack of financial regulation.

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    Mute Paul Carey
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:48 PM

    I predict that SF will get no more than 16% of the votes and 12% of the seats. Given that these opinion polls only reflect first preference votes, SF will get fewer % seats than % vote as they are transfer toxic.

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    Mute Bobby Phelan
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:48 PM

    Ff fg labour traitors of our nation those politicians sold our sovereignty created cheap labour and taxed us to save the corrupt bankers.

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    Mute Paul Carey
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:55 PM

    Bobby you are still spinning the same leftist rubbish. “Sold our sovereignty”, give us a break. Maybe if SF and AAA replaced the claptrap with sensible policies that would actually grow our economy they might convince more people.

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    Mute Dot Com
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:00 PM

    I find my self in the position where I don’t like any party, They all just look after themselves once in office.

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    Mute Bobby Phelan
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:05 PM

    Paul just call a general election now and we will see https://youtu.be/27UL3tZW1bk

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    Mute Bobby Phelan
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:11 PM

    Paul are you telling me all these peaceful people are wrong your delusional man._.https://youtu.be/gBfngCMOJeY

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    Mute Thomas Maher
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:18 PM

    What percent of first preference votes did Fine Gael get in the last election Paul?
    At what stage were Sinn Fein eliminated from the Dublin west election that Paul Murphy was elected in?

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    Mute Bobby Phelan
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:20 PM

    Fg are born lyers this explains every thing that iw is a pure failure at our expense Stephen donnelly is bang on the button here.https://youtu.be/sexp9EslaAM facts paul

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    Mute Egg Head
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:20 PM

    If an election was called now FG would be returned to government, didn’t you just read the poll results in the above article? Why has “just call an election” become a clarion call of opposition to government parties when all indications point towards another FG headed government?

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    Mute winding_down
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:23 PM

    What is Ó Cuiv on about? There’s no absolute collapse in FF “self-belief”. There’s an absolute collapse in the *public’s belief in FF*! And that’s not anything new.

    In the next election FF’s major struggle will be to stay relevant to the Irish political landscape – and with dinosaurs like Senator Jim Walsh (who resigned on Friday for his views on LGBT rights), FF will be lucky to be the 3rd largest Party in the Dáil!

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    Mute Paul Carey
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:36 PM

    Bobby, The government are mandated to govern until next year. They will not and should not call an election now. Anyway FG will continue to rise in the polls as the economy continues to recover. More bad news for the deluded left wingers.

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    Mute Were Jammin
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:39 PM

    “The government are mandated to govern until next year”

    They lost their mandate when they wiped their ar$e with their manifesto. They have no mandate.

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    Mute robby rottenest
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:42 PM

    Whilst the usual party fanatics and trolls spout drivel about their respective parties, we face a terrible truth. Since the inception of the state, no one party or coalition has governed this country with any success. Church interference, terrorism, unemployment and emigration have stalked the land in various amounts with the latest instalment of unsustainable greed and property worship to be added to the list of shame. We have proved time and time again we are not fit to govern ourselves and that our parochial nature, and championing of gombeen politicians will always end in the same conclusion.
    Argue all you want for your parties, I think they’re disgraceful, and I can’t even begin to imagine how I’ll vote in the next election.

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    Mute Were Jammin
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:46 PM

    Robby, do some research into any independents who may be running in your constituency. Make sure they have no previous ties to any of the establishment parties. Go talk to them and see if they seem genuine.

    The best TD in the Dail is an independent, we could use more like him.

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    Mute Paul Carey
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:48 PM

    Were jammin that is your deluded opinion. This poll seems to suggest otherwise and there certainly is no appetite for a SF left wing government.

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    Mute Alan Scott
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:54 PM

    I don’t support FG but why are they doing so well in the polls ?

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    Mute Egg Head
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:14 PM

    Alan, because they’re doing an all right job for most all things considered, and they are the incumbents so benefit from the better the devil you know attitude at the moment, especially against SF. I won’t be voting FG, but credit where it’s due, they were tasked with cleaning up FF’s mess and getting us out of the bail out which they’ve achieved, and we’ve only to look to Greece to see that getting out of the bailout was never inevitable.

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    Mute Ruadhán MacEoin
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:15 PM

    Very well put.

    The present administration was elected on the basis they would restore accountability (I.e. jail a few corrupt individuals responsible for the National Collapse), and remove the odious ECB debt.

    They have done neither. Instead of which we have seen increased cronyism precisely because nobody has been held accountable – and hence there is no deterrent.

    Meanwhile the people are burdened by collective financial guilt, courtesy of the ECB-EU Diktat.

    In an absence of moral authority, on what basis is there legitimacy?

    And yet they think they have one half bought, and the other half intimidated. The fools, the fools…

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    Mute Bobby Phelan
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:23 PM

    I agree with robby and i will add. it dont matter who is in power the banks are running the show.Its all about creating cheap labour and a land grab.So carey you can waffle all you like.Party loyalty like that is what got us into this mess._.

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    Mute Real Shinnerbot
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:24 PM

    Comrade Jammin, why are Sinn Féin down 4%? Can we blame someone else for this disaster?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:31 PM

    Robby the voice of reason,,,,,,,,,Fair play.

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    Mute Charles Fogarty
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:42 PM

    I think Ireland would do far better by aligning themselves with the Nordic countries instead of trying to be more like our neighbors to the East.

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    Mute Alan Scott
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:57 PM

    Egg head
    Yes agreed on the point you have made but at the end of the day FG have performed some huge loops and questionable stuff themselves and seem to be getting away with it . Like you I will not be voting for them and to be quiet honest don’t know who to vote ? The left side have good intentions but where are they going to get the money to fund their policy ?.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:57 PM

    Paul whats your political affiliation

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    Mute Mark O'Hagan
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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:52 PM

    Of course SF can blame someone. A Denis O’Brien led media conspiracy, RTE, the polling company, -anyone but themselves.

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    Mute Sean Mac Diarmada
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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:02 PM

    Hopefully there wont be enough of them left to bond with their twin brothers in Fine Gael, and cause more mayhem mischief and oppression,after the next election in 2016..

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:08 PM

    The next election will be decided on the issue of water charges. Watch this space.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:11 PM

    Co co tennants do not know their details were given to iw. They will know in april when the bills arrive. Redo this survey in may….

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    Mute Liam Slattery
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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:12 PM

    It’s all spin by Fg cos they know there time is up

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:30 PM

    It amazes me how a country that calls itself a republic and holds referendum for things like same sex marriage and the qualifying age for candidates putting themself forward for president, can be so easily fooled by a government into replacing a working level of democracy in the form of town councils and gave power to the unelected and unaccountable executive to run county councils in this country.

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    Mute Wexford pikeman
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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:37 PM

    Vote Sinn Fein for real change.

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    Mute David HIggins
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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:43 PM

    It probably won’t be decided on water charges gregory. Let’s face it – the government has already lost the votes of 99% of those who marched. It wouldn’t matter if enda and joan came and gave everyone 1000€ – they are hated by a good quarter of the population – those votes are gone – and the government isn’t going to chase them.
    There are quite a number of people who can afford the charge, and there are quite a number who agree with paying for water (but think the government made a complete hash of setting it up). They’ll choose between the current government, and the alternative – perhaps they’ll stick with what they know – rather then try the SF led alternative.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:23 PM

    The truth at last.!

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:58 PM

    And what about the deluded taoiseach when fennelly delivers paul..he cant run forever you know.he lied and he’s been caught out..the most inept taoiseach ever

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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:03 PM

    Spin alan..one word only
    Spin spin spin
    Their control of the media right now is scary.they are quite willing to lie their way to the next election .interesting article today on the independent.ie about the fantasy of I W.read particularlybthe peice about alan kelly spinning the figures that have registered and now proven to be false..

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    Mute Paul Circle
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:22 PM

    Until Fianna Fáil dump the likes of Mickey Martin and Wilieee O’Deeee, Hannafin etc they are doomed.

    Big ego problems to overcome here though. Martin and O’Dee, Hannfin are useless has beens, quite prepared to sacrifice the party for their own betterment, who brought this country to it’s knees but they still want more expenses and pensions.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:26 PM

    Paul, Willie O’Dea is one of the most successful vote harvesters in the history of the State. Mary Hanafin won a seat on the Local elections and is now looking at running in the General Election. There’s no explanation for that, but there it is. No way FF will get rid of them.

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    Mute Aidan Kelly
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:28 PM

    FF are like a failed version of FG

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    Mute Paul Circle
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:35 PM

    Has anybody heard one idea from Fianna Fáil about how they would do things different from the liars and traitors in Fine Gael/ Labour ????

    Fianna Fáil are a mirror image of the greedy rich mens friends in Fine Gael and their patsies in Labour – might as well keep the self serving horrors that we have and at least save money on ministerial pensions !

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:39 PM

    FG are doing a relatively grand job. Name me one other party our political movement that could do things better?

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:48 PM

    As Brendan Smyth would say ‘let them eat the cheese’, left over from the fat rats.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:20 PM

    Direct democracy Ireland if given the chance would be the best.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:34 PM

    Like his point or not, David is correct; the aforementioned three, Willie O’ Dee in particular, are serious vote collectors. I recall one time he ran away with an election with a surplus of 16,500 votes. People, for whatever reason, vote for them; look no further than Hanafin’s councillor revival for evidence of this. It’s people that vote them in that are the main problem.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:39 PM

    Hanafin is a stroke puller of the highest order. Straight as a corner.

    She’ll be well-suited to the role of president of FF.

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    Mute Alan Scott
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:16 PM

    FF are still tolerating the then ministers in that Government which caused the crash but the electorate won’t.

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    Mute Real Shinnerbot
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:42 PM

    I just wish people would forget about SF’s handling of PIRA sex abusers.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:35 PM

    Oh shut up about the abuse -pathetic

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:45 PM

    People get what they vote for – and hasn’t Willie O’Dea done a great job in limerick over the past 30 years. It’s a paradise by all accounts…

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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:38 PM

    whynotme… exactly Comrade.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:51 PM

    The truth hurts, whynotme, doesn’t it? especially in SF/IRA circles where the policy of “deny everything and hope it goes away” still exists, particularly in relation to the numerous child abuse cases that have been revealed.

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    Mute Charles Fogarty
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    Mar 29th 2015, 9:08 PM

    Paul, do you support a domestic party in Ireland or are you for a centralized power in Europe?

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    Mute Paul Carey
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    Mar 29th 2015, 9:23 PM

    I support FG and I am in favour of Ireland’s membership of the EU, no more. I advocate liberal free market policies and believe that governments should implement policies which are pro jobs.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 9:33 PM

    So you feel neo-liberalism is the ideology that all states within the E.U should adopt?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 9:33 PM

    What do you care about the victims of child abuse? Your lot are just using them as political point scoring .. And just for the record ‘I have never ever voted for SF’ . Goodnight to you ‘Paul’ and a goodnight to you too,’Comrade’.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 9:50 PM

    Note to whynotme – uve just used child abuse for political point scoring. #scoundered

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    Mar 29th 2015, 9:52 PM

    I don’t believe in absolute ‘isms’, liberal pro jobs policies tailored for specific circumstances is what’s required.

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    Mute Paul Carey
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    Mar 29th 2015, 9:54 PM

    Whynotme, and who are you to question our sincerity with regard to abuse victims?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 10:03 PM

    Note to Baz -#rhetoric
    Note to Paul – goodnight

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    Mute Charles Fogarty
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    Mar 29th 2015, 10:05 PM

    Offft. Are you running Paul? First class deflection to be fair.

    You tend to be against SF for a number of reasons but what exactly is it about their economic policies you feel would be harmful to our recovery and growth?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 10:37 PM

    I think calling economic policies is being a bit generous.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:19 PM

    See this is why I always say that the only accurate poll is the polling booth. The two latest polls show WILDLY different results. I reckon both polling companies will be scratching their heads come Monday morning. Obviously, they cannot BOTH be right. Even with their margns of error of 2.8% and 3% theres still something awry.

    What happened? Both companies are using outdated models for their numbers. For example….

    http://www.redcresearch.ie/blog/do-undecided-voters-desire-for-new-party#sthash.MJLlsTTH.VIFpWfsc.dpbs

    In relation to undecideds:
    “It has been shown through post election analysis in the past that in fact they frequently end up voting for the party they supported at the last election, as humans are creatures of habit……RED C re-allocates half of the people who claim they don’t know how they will vote to the party they supported at the last election.”

    In other words, They are counting half of the undecideds who voted Labour last election and half of the undecideds who voted FG last election as people who will vote the same way again. It may have been accurate in other elections, but that weighting simply is not accurate this time around. For example are the allocating 20% of the 13% ‘don’t know’s to Labour based on their 2011 result? That would be a bump of 2.6% overall. Is that realistic given the anger directed squarely at Labour by the voting public?

    The exit poll on the day of the election itself is the first realistic look we will get of the outcome. And that day cannot come soon enough….Roll on the GE.

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    Mute Aidan Kelly
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:21 PM

    Were Spammin it seems you only like opinion polls which favour your party? Face it the SF bubble has burst.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:23 PM

    Not that I disagree with you completely either. It’s like the local elections last year. SF were sitting on over 20% in the opinion polls but only received 15% of the first preference vote in the election itself.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:24 PM

    Polls where SF are up = yea..! This is great.

    Polls where SF are down = the methodology is wrong and flawed.

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    Mute Were Jammin
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:27 PM

    Read my post again martin. For the SF example you gave, one poll has them joint most popular at 24%, the other has them as 17%. My point is, both cannot be right.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:31 PM

    @ aidan (the spoofer who was accusing ME of lying the other day): “Were Spammin it seems you only like opinion polls which favour your party? Face it the SF bubble has burst.”

    I’m the person around here who consistently points out that the only poll that counts is the polling booth.

    Anything else you’d like to be wrong about?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:33 PM

    Sooner or later all the negative news about SF had to have an impact on the polls, maybe a change in leadership might help but not Mary Lou as she’s an apologist for the existing leadership, then again most are. Difficult one, emphasis on “cult” of course lol. FF are in deep trouble and I’m not even sure getting rid of Martin will make much of a difference.

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    Mute Aidan Kelly
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:33 PM

    And SF consistently underperform when it comes to the polling booth. As per the local elections last year.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:35 PM

    “My point is, both cannot be right.”

    They are both right because they were done at different times. The IPSOS/MRBI poll was done Monday and Tuesday last week. Presumably, the RedC poll was done towards the end of this week. (I haven’t got the paper so don’t know).

    Anyway, a 7% shift in one week does seem very hard to believe. Definitely a pinch of salt required.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:37 PM

    Were Spammin is panicking. His overlords at SF HQ are readying the spin machine but it’s already too late.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:38 PM

    Were jammin. The poll last week was conducted before the latest SF/IRA peado scandal. The latest poll reflects this and is more accurate. Also there are fewer don’t knows. I always said once the don’t knows make up their mind SF would suffer.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:53 PM

    “The poll last week was conducted before the latest SF/IRA peado scandal. ”

    If you’re referring to the scandal whereby a young man was raped by a member of the IRA, that ‘scandal’ broke over a fortnight ago. Using victims of sex abuse to score tawdry political points ‘paul’? Good man.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:55 PM

    Spammin you’re actually hilarious. So you are also a biometrician now yeah – pointing out the faults of professional statistical polling organisations? Because you have such expertise in the area. Seeing as you are such a keen student of polls though, any explanation why SF always poll lower in a real election than opinion polls?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:58 PM

    “Seeing as you are such a keen student of polls though, any explanation why SF always poll lower in a real election than opinion polls?”

    Because their supporters are less likely to vote than other demographics. The demographic where SF are weakest are 6 times more likely to vote than the dmographic where SFs support is strongest.

    Any other questions?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:09 PM

    Most SF supporters couldn’t be bothered to do anything, including going out to vote. The disastrous state of Greece along the pickup in our economy has severely damaged SF, not to mention the numerous child abuse scandals.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:10 PM

    I actually agree with you for once! Would you not also agree it’s very unlikely Sinn Fein will gain power based on current polling trends then, bearing in mind what you just said about their core vote?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:16 PM

    No. The point of my ost was that the polling companies are in unchartered territory, and that (as you can see round here) individuals will see what they want to see in the numbers. My point being that they serve no real purpose due to margins of error and redundant models.

    So, basing anything ‘on current polling trends’ is a meaningless exercise, no matter which was you vote, or what question you ask.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:41 PM

    They do mean a little more than nothing though. People can be swayed by the results of these things if they are really unsure of who they are going to give their vote to. A case of not wanted to be wrong does, in some cases, mean people will just go with who they see as popular because “well they must be doing something right”

    Really not looking forward to the media coverage over the next year…

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:41 PM

    Another use of the old DUP SF /IRA mantra. Do you also follow the DUP in comparing the LBGT community with the likes of Shankill butchers gang or maybe you also want the oujai boards banned.. Fine bunch of bed fellows you have..

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:51 PM

    It’s hilarious how the state of Greece is the fault of Syriza after a few weeks in power.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:58 PM

    Gavan, what’s hilarious is that Greece failed to adopt policies of austerity when Ireland did and when it might have made a difference.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:26 PM

    Great deflection Comrade Jammin. I personally think we should blame the public for victimising us like this.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:54 PM

    Aidan – As a Young FG Member , what is you infatuation with SF ?

    Are you wearing that Blueshirt and looking in the mirror again making those funny salutes ?

    Go back to the Club Orange and the Tayto’s and a comic a Chara ?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:13 PM

    Gavin . It’s not. Syrizas position has antagonised its partners in Europe and has really worsened the position.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:27 PM

    Syrizas only partners in Europe are the austerity crippled people of Spain, Portugal and Ireland. Their Governments are no partners of Syriza.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:31 PM

    Syriza which has now backtracked on every pre election promise they have made in the face of reality. Typical of the left.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:00 PM

    Syriza and AAA and SF are all bedfellows. Syriza are trying to implement the ridiculous policies which have been advocated by SF and AAA, and look at where that is getting them. Greece is a mess. #failedsocialists

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:04 PM

    Aidan Kelly

    You mean like FG/Labour lied and backtracked on every election promise they made ?

    Do you realise we now have a government with no mandate from the people, a dictatorship.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:50 PM

    sad act Aiden mister 20 account’s. https://twitter.com/davedunne12/status/581908733112020992

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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:45 PM

    Our communist pro-Putin comrades in Syriza are my heroes.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 10:16 PM

    Davedunne – You missed Margaret Thatcher on Aidan’s Twitter Account, too – I wonder does he know that the Ould wagon upped and died ???

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    Mar 29th 2015, 10:20 PM

    Glenn Beck is one of Aidan Kelly’s cult heroes too !!!!
    Can one imagine he follows American Fascism too .

    Is Bill O’Reilly a Cousin too, Aidan Kelly ?

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    Mar 30th 2015, 1:39 AM

    David according to the state broadcaster (rte) they were both done early in the the week. So can’t see how both can be right either.
    Unless they were done predominantly in different parts of country. As political affiliation dose vary geographically. ‘(ie) Dublin city and Co. Dublin would be considered more liberal left than say Cork city and Co.Cork.’

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    Mar 30th 2015, 3:27 PM

    @Aidan. Jaysus Pot/Kettle swiftly comes to mind.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:20 PM

    I think voters recognise that despite a myriad of shortcomings, we are in a much better place than election time four years ago.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:25 PM

    The Irish public can be likened to a spoilt child who one day looks back at all of the sacrifices its parents made for it over the years and realises that everything was done for its own good.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:28 PM

    Hard to take concrete conclusions from individual polls but the trend seems to indicate that the government parties are slowly growing in popularity, SF’s core vote is solid, FF are in real trouble & the independents are staying steady.

    If this continues then the government parties will be in a good position by this time next year & SF will be the dominant alternative.

    Should make for an interesting 12 months!!

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:41 PM

    @Eamonn Duggan

    You mean the rich re in a better place – fat John Bruton, BIFFO, Bertie, fat Rabbit , DOB,……

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:01 PM

    Aidan I think you’ll find it was our parent generation who were like children pandering to the church and letting them molest children with impunity.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:34 PM

    Of course we are..the recession ended…they ALWAYS end…but don’t let that make you forget they broke EVERY promise except two:
    -The min wage (which just restores what was already taken away)
    -Irish water (which has been a disaster)

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:48 PM

    The only problem in that analogy is that it is the child that is making all of the sacrifices.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:59 PM

    Wow Aidan that’s not patronising at all… Spat out of your mouth exactly the way the FG thought processes occur. We should be grateful to live in poverty, with people feeling like suicide is the only option left, not affording the right for a life despite working..yes I said working. ..I work, I’m not one of the alleged ‘spongers’ you can dismiss as not willing to get up off my arse. .yet I still can’t afford to live a life under FG/LAB ..yet you liken me to spoilt child who doesn’t know how lucky I am.. hmm I wonder how much you have suffered in these hard times Aidan. .or would it be you live a privileged life and remain unaffected by any hardship and merely see the lower classes as worker bees to be used, abused, sneered at and ignored by the likes of you. You should be ashamed of yourself, sheer arrogance is not an attractive trait for anyone.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:31 PM

    There speaks a future fg Overlord. You have been warned.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:24 PM

    Aidan – I reckon you would know what a spoilt YFG child looks like ?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:33 PM

    Ah Kerry is that the best you can do? Must be major panic at SF HQ today I don’t blame you for not having the time to put any thought into your comments.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:46 PM

    Aido. I doubt Hayley would be appreciative of your online antics. ….

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:48 PM

    Charles Hayley was the old chairperson and she appreciated me well enough!

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:28 PM

    Is it David’s day off ? Oh- hi Aidan :) Like my shades ?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:47 PM

    Oggie fantastic as always
    #jealous

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:59 PM

    Thank you ,Aido ;) #iwouldntblameyou

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:12 PM

    A.idan Kelly

    Yes, that is the kind of contempt that FG has for the people of this country, you think you know best
    You, FF and Labour don’t stand much of a chance in the next election, hopefully the people will demand the money back this time, it would be great to see Enid and the Rabbit lose their homes for their criminal mismanagement of the country,

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:22 PM

    You see Aidan , the difference between you and I , is that I don’t Troll like you.

    I was having a life and at a very good Football Match between Kerry & Monaghan and Monaghan deservedly won !

    Now YFG lad – get a life and stop making a fool of yourself a chara ?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:43 PM

    Kerryman, you have a life??? You are on here spouting you SF crap 24/7.
    Better a fool than a SF fool. Laughable.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 10:45 PM

    Aidan, E.K. failed to reform to control costs in many state agencies and givem the reduced tax take from recession had cover to do this. Inequality between lowly paid private sector workers w/ no pensions has increased while upper echelons in public sector still rule the roost and have terrifically high celtic tiger-esque salaries and pensions. No progress on reform/moderation/efficiency

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    Mar 30th 2015, 3:29 PM

    Tell that to the families whose children have had to leave this country because of the failed Pro-capitalist policies of FG/FF/Lab. Pay the bankers but f..k the rest eh!!

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:22 PM

    Is it worrying that so many people think Sinn Fein are going to be the party that help the poor get out of poverty, reduce the amount we pay taxes and turn Ireland in euphoric island of wealth and equality. Nazi Germany successfully used nationalism to take them to the next level. How democratic are Sinn Fein ultimately ? Do too few have the power in the party and all must bow to its leader. Does the leadership intellect carry on down through the rest of the party. We know they blatantly lied about every thing from sex abuse to IRA membership. They have convinced a certain type of follower over the years that they are the party for them but if they get the middle class vote will they in time turn their back on the working echelons of society who have served them so well ? I wonder are they here to serve the people or their own agenda. Could they be a wolf in sheeps clothing. All that said maybe we should give then a chance, after all they could do no worse than Fianna Fail. But would the be better than Fianna Gael. Love them or loath them they have shown leadership by making tough decisions and that includes the water charges. Is it right to cast FG aside despite steering the ship quite well in stormy seas so we have a party who makes popular decisions like the good old “Bertie Days” or is it better to have a government who is not afraid to put two fingers up at the electorate for the better long term prospects of a nation ?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:26 PM

    SF are more than happy to implement austerity policies in the north now that they’re in power. It would be exactly the same down here.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:56 PM

    I am convinced subscribers of An Phoblacht have moved over to reading the Journal.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:58 PM

    So Aidan are you saying all political parties are the same?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:16 PM

    Luke D

    How could they be any different when they operate the same system ? We really have no choice, if voting could change anything it would be banned.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:31 PM

    If you consider having property tax water tax 3rd highest vat rate in the world, the only country with vrt on cars as well as doubling road tax as well as many more charges a suceess I give up

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:05 PM

    On the other side we have a social welfare system which is to kind and free education (compared with must nations)

    Swings and Roundabouts….

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:49 PM

    Free education my arse

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:55 PM

    Exactly. Its usually the folks whose mammy and daddy are picking up the tab exclaim the virtues of ‘free education’ in Ireland.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:12 PM

    It amazes me that the fine gael trolls always side step the news about wealthy fine gael supporters securing college grants for their siblings.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:19 PM

    I’m not a FG voter but I have voted for them in every election that I’ve voted in #shill

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:23 PM

    Other European countries which have a vehicle registration tax: Austria, , Greece, Iceland Norway, Portugal and the Netherlands.
    European countries with the same fate rate as Ireland include: Greece, Poland and Portugal.
    European countries with a higher VAT rate include: Denmark, Croatia, Hungry and Sweden.
    All European countries have a property tax except: Croatia, Liechtenstein, Malta and Monaco.
    All other countries in Europe pay water charges.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:24 PM

    ‘fate’ should read ‘VAT’.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:51 PM

    All of Liam’s ‘facts’ are incorrect, yet four times more people here approve of his comments than disapprove. This highlights the ignorance of a lot of people who post here.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:59 PM

    The best free public education I ever witnessed was in the H-blocks.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:01 PM

    Perhaps H-Blocks could be reopened to enable the ‘deprived’ continue their free education.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:23 PM

    Why is millions in childrens allowance paid to rich people who do not need it. Failure to reform. Goverent waste.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:38 PM

    Scandinavian vat is higher. Salaries are double. No comparison to be made w scandinavia. Holland does not have usc. Holland has lower vat. Holland has €1.59/m3 not ireland rate €3.70/m3. Holland travel to work allowances for all. Holland 13month salary for all (holiday money). Holland pm €144k/yr incl 3.5k allowances which is less the various co co mgrs large counties and equals salary of soke v small counties. Ireland pm €185k/yr +++. Ireland car tax up to 8x uk rates. Uk income tax lower. Vat lower. No vrt. Ireland 2tier society, scam artist govt quango salaries highest in eu. Govt. Failure to reform or reduce wastage taxpayer money. ireland = inequality+inefficiency.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:48 PM

    Fair point greg – but means testing children’s allowance would cost money – so there mightn’t be that much saved.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:53 PM

    David, fair point. How about mandatory annual electronic registration w/ automated means testing based on pps no?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:04 PM

    Water charges Eu per m3: eire 3.70 (start jan2019), holland 1.59, milan 0.40, athens 0.79, lisbon 0.85, madrid 0.99, london 1.63, paris 2.16, munich 2.26. Avg use pp per yr 45m3.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:04 PM

    That sounds straightforward – but you know there would be 1 or 2 who didn’t get the allowance – then articles in the paper and huge bad press for whoever is in government – over a saving of a few thousand.
    There would also be gaming of the system – I remember children of farmers/self employed getting student grants as they were able to declare a low income – in spite of having large assets.

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    Mar 30th 2015, 5:55 PM

    Tap Solny

    We pay for water too, the difference is we are expected to pay for it 3 or 4 times.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:40 PM

    Hard to believe its only taken two generations from easter 1916 to bankrupt the country..did the people who fought know they were dying for an unequal society of multiple political pensions for the elite ..paid for by the poorest in society?..

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:46 PM

    Society is unequal because some will always work harder than others.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:57 PM

    Yeah Aidan that’s it….. Did your daddy tell you that?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:31 PM

    A lot of people with money, especially inhereted money, wouldn’t know what work was if it jumped up and bit them. The argument that rich people deserve to be rich cause they work harder is a tired and redundant argument.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:51 PM

    Aidan it’s not that simple unfortunately, differences like what neighbourhood and school you went too play a part in your ability to progress in life in Ireland. All the statistics show as such. You could have someone born with below average ability into a wealthy family parachuted into a good job and someone with above avarage intelligence born into a poor family in a bad neighbourhood without the supports available being able to afford college etc. I’m surprised you haven’t cottoned on to that, would you be from the rich family background and have no experience of the other side of the fence brigade.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:20 PM

    If corruption has been dealt with how come a top manager can be appointed to iw who bankrupted a co. Co. Got a lump sum of 270k a full co co pension and now on mega bucks at iw and he’s just one of them. Corrupt alive and well.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:20 PM

    Proof that the government’s economic policies are working and that people are finally starting to see it. It’s important to take a long term view with these things. In the short term austerity was painful but in the long run austerity has freed us from debt and poverty. Applause to this government.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:37 PM

    Their economic policies are working?
    like setting up fast track courts/court orders to deduct money from peoples salaries for IW?
    Waisting a few billion in setting it up?
    Giving a man the job of running IW who has a proven track record of making a complete haims of everything he’s left manage?
    Refusing to investigate the Irish tax dodgers who were a part of the recent HSBC scandal(because current politicians are involved)?
    The 50,000 or so familys that face immenent eviction so that the property portfolio can be sold off to forigen capitalist’s who will then increase the rents?
    The list goes on and on you YFG goon!

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:39 PM

    “like setting up fast track courts/court orders to deduct money from peoples salaries for IW?”
    - Pay your taxes

    “Waisting a few billion in setting it up?”
    – a few billion?! Really? Shinners really are bad with figures!

    “The 50,000 or so familys that face immenent eviction so that the property portfolio can be sold off to forigen capitalist’s who will then increase the rents?”
    If you can’t afford your rent don’t expect to live somewhere for free.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:44 PM

    Aidan do you not mean FF economic policies seeing as FG kept on claiming we have to follow the plan as agreed between FF and the troika?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:51 PM

    Leacve Aidan Kelly alone. He obviously gets paid – probably by us !!!!! -0 to spew this infantile brown nose bile from Enda Kennys handlers.

    Poor idiot kid probably had no job and licked enough bum to get this go so maybe politely leave him alone. Although €50,204 is a lot of cash for a brown noser !!!

    If it’s subsequently found out that he is being paid from the public purse then that will be a serious issue but Kenny, like Haughey and Ahern has been proved to be a self serving ruthless liar who looks after those who lick his a$$ already so lets make enquiries… and wait.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:00 PM

    Don’t worry Aidan I’m sure your mammy and daddy will pay your family’s water charges.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:13 PM

    Aidan you’re living on La-la land.. the only place Enda &his honchos are leading this country, is down the road to perdition.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:23 PM

    Aiden kelly
    You do realise we still borrow money every year to run the country
    So how are we free of debt
    and also still paying back other debts which have convenient ly rolled back for years.

    Explain

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:24 PM

    I pay my taxes you creep. I won’t, however, be paying for a utility 3 times over. I think twice is enough. Now run along and adhere to your party whip!

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:43 PM

    Aidan, the water charge is not a tax, which is why revenue is not collecting it.

    Jesus, are you the best the YFG trinners set have to offer?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:31 PM

    Aidan – Shinners , Shinners , Shinners – Do YFG think of anything else these days ?
    Your Facebook Page is great too – You are a really important cog in FG Trolling Crew aren’t you – A future in the Boyscout Blueshirt Movement awaits you !

    Why should plebs have a home at all – says you ???

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:34 PM

    Says the lad who mentions FG or YFG in every comment.

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    Mute whynotme
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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:39 PM

    That starting post of yours was a ‘stick my fingers down my throat moment’ -laughable and pathetic

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:42 PM

    Aidan – I count a number of good friends ,who are FG voters/Members.
    You would turn them off ever voting for them again with your silly pathetic gobalooning !

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    Mute Real Shinnerbot
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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:41 PM

    Maith thú Comrade Ciarraíoch

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    Apr 1st 2015, 1:22 AM

    WTF , you ignorant a$$!

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:31 PM

    F. F. will have Labour to keep them company in the back of nowhere, hopefully.

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    Mute David Murphey
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:22 PM

    According to the same poll “Of those surveyed 62% believe the country is out of recession”.

    Seriously? who believes that? we’re a long, long way from out of recession.

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    Mute Justin Gillespie
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:24 PM

    I have a feeling you don’t really grasp the concept of “recession”.

    Growth of 5% in 2014 would tell me that we are now out of recession.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:27 PM

    The economy is growing therefore the country is out of recession.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:29 PM

    Justin, that’s a very fair point, but I think the improvements are mostly in Dublin, and haven’t really trickled out to the rest of the country. Still way too many people unemployed.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:34 PM

    I refuse to believe that my one year old kittens Kofi II and Banki, are growing, because they still have a have a long way to grow.

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    Mute Alan Driscoll
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:36 PM

    Polls polls polls where is this quarter of our population who support this FG/LB government. One in four support them and 60% plus believe recession is over. Who are these 1000 people who were polled and was it at the FG ard dheis

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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:37 PM

    I’ve heard it multiple times this week from lots of different people saying things are on the up and I’m 150 miles away from dublin

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:23 PM

    FG and Labour have ensured tbe recovery and are the only ones who can be trusted to run the economy properly.

    With the launch this week of a new tourism strategy that hopes to create 50,000 jobs over the next ten years, it shows that they are all about jobs.

    Action on the economy and job creation is more attractive to voters than populist negativity.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:21 PM

    Dane Tyghe

    Working for nothing is slavery !

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:09 PM

    With any luck O’Cuiv will take over thus ensuring the ruination of FF.Their developer buddies won’t be there to bail em out. A plague on their house.

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    Mute Real Shinnerbot
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:48 PM

    I hope FF don’t try get Mary Lou back…

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:31 PM

    FF need the likes of John McGuinness or Timmy Dooley to step up. Averil Power is definitely one to watch if she gets it next time

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:49 PM

    O Cuiv, fidelma healy eames and that right wing catholic nut – Galway have given some great politicians to the country

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:41 PM

    it’s hard to take these polls seriously, as we’re jammin remarked the latest polls have showed wildly different results, i dont believe there are really too many who just continue to chop and change when it comes to who to vote for especially thesedays, for my own part i will never in a million years vote for any of the main partys, they have consistently shown themselves to be all but the same, parasites,gangsters,liars, cronyism, jobs for the boys, more and more austerity,i truly believe come election time Irish people will (finally) wake up and not just keep voting in the same old protagonists , like a vicious merry go around .

    Radical change is needed in Ireland, the FG/ Labour trollls who populate on here will be nowhere to be seen when their finished come election time.

    Independents / SF / People Before Profit /Socialist Party will be the big winners.

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    Mute @mdmak33
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:37 PM

    Destroy these big parties in GE,mass nonpayment a no in endas referendums will force a GE,guaranteed

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    Mute Were Jammin
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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:55 PM

    enda lost the seanad referendum and there was no GE. Stop pushing your anti-gay bigotry please.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:03 PM

    @Were Jammin

    That’s outrageous to suggest somebody is anti gay because they oppose making a mockery of marriage by allowing gays to get married and be equal to a normal couple when trying to adopt a child.

    Try to stay with the programme – if Enda Kenny loses yet another referendum it may well be cause for him to call an election.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:26 PM

    Paul, the username in question is consistently trying to convince people to vote no in the marriage equality referendum to get one over on the government. Read the rest of their posts and see whether or not there is an element of bigotry.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:32 PM

    mdmakk how about not using other people’s human rights as a political football?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:37 PM

    @Were Jammin

    I am certainly not qualified to accuse anybody of being a bigot !!!

    This is an open forum and everybody has a right to their opinion even if others don’t agree.

    I absolutely disagree with gays being allowed to get married because I believe it makes a mockery of marriage and could condemn a child to being brought up in a totally unnatural environment.

    That shouldn’t give cause – as it sadly does on occasion – for you or some of gay bullies posting here to call me a bigot.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:40 PM

    Are you married yourself Paul?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:52 PM

    @Were Jammin

    You disappoint me.

    How do I suggest politely that my marital status is none of your business.

    May I reemphasise that calling a fellow poster a bigot because he disagrees with your views on making a mockery of marriage by allowing two men to get married and possibly adopt children, in the same way as, or even ahead of, a normal married couple, is wrong.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:59 PM

    “How do I suggest politely that my marital status is none of your business.”

    So you’re not married. Hopefully if you ever do get married it won’t be the type of BS marriage that is made ‘a mockery’ of by two people you’ve never met getting married in a place you’ve never been to.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:07 PM

    @Were Jammin

    Please don’t post on something you know absolutely NOTHING about.

    Sadly it’s bullies like you posting illogical junk that make this a less rewarding environment in which to most.

    It really makes all of your posts questionable …..

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:10 PM

    ooooops .. ….

    “….. in which to POST ….”

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:14 PM

    Paul Circle – assuming that you have never been in a gay marriage then you should not talk about it, going by the standards you demand of Werejammin. I think he is quite right to ask of your marital status as you are determined to involve yourself in the marital status of others,

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:49 PM

    @Paul Fahey

    On wrong scale of 1 to 10 where 10 is the wrongest – you are 10 !

    You “” assume”" things, and then, based on your “”assumption”" , you have the cheek to instruct me not to talk about gay marriage !!! Who the hell do you think you are !!

    I don’t want anything to do with gay marriage and I certainly don’t want any poor children to become potential prisoners in gay marriages either. Innocent children deserve better.

    Gay marriage is a really bad idea for society.

    Gay marriage will make a mockery of marriage and potentially put a gay couple on a par with a normal couple when it comes to adopting children – that’s plain wrong.

    A child living a life with two gays, having to witness a gay lifestyle is completely unfair.

    As for ‘Were Jammin’ asking me personal questions that are none of his, yours, or anybody else’s business, he should know better – your contribution here is intrusive but irrelevant – given that he’s a guy that I normally have a lot of respect for.

    Vote NO.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 11:08 PM

    Paul Circle – it’s ok, I understand, but we will all support you, you do not have to live the lie anymore.
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:10 PM

    Can we not just have a general election now! We have a current government who are acting like a dictatorship with no mandate from the people who put them there, and a load of insignificant polls to sway hurlers on the ditch.

    Let’s just have an election!

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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:35 PM

    SF don’t act like a dictatorship at all over the last few years their leader has changed multiple times…. oh wait sorry my bad got that one wrong

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    Mar 29th 2015, 2:43 PM

    So i will just come out and say it. I dont trust or believe these polls and i dont support any party although i was once affiliated to fg and proudly so at the time. However not anymore and i expect more similar results as we come closer to an election. In fact i see fg going up in the polls. People are really sheep and they follow the crowd. So do i think the polls are legitimate….absolutely not. I know people are called and polled but i suspect the results are skewed in favour of the govt and as a result more people will ultimately vote that way.

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    Mute Thomas Maher
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:15 PM

    I’d be more inclined to take 50-80,000 people on the street as a reliable poll on the governments popularity than a phone call to 1,000

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:28 PM

    Would you? So 80,000 people came out and the other 4.5 million did not….what do you make of that?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:50 PM

    Get back to us after the mass non-payment of bills caimin.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:12 PM

    Of course I would, isn’t 50 odd thousand a better sample than 1,000?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:59 PM

    And isn’t 4.5 million a better sample than 50,000? (Although it was closer to 15,000)

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:30 PM

    What are you talking about Aidan?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:33 PM

    Magnificent turnout that fine day :) Really shook ‘Nod Kelly’ -Gene Kerrigan :)

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:34 PM

    #heehawheehaw

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:39 PM

    Where did this Kelly child pop up from? -pathetic kid .

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:50 PM

    I like the way your post makes it look like you’re quoting yourself. Don’t be so hard on yourself whynotme, you’re not pathetic.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:30 PM

    Aidan Kelly

    So that’s why the economy is up $hit street, because FG’s can’t count.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:30 PM

    More spin. I simply don’t believe all these “good news ” stories being pumped out on behalf of this government – something stinks, and it’s the self same government. Stick with them an IW AND the gardai will have access to your pps numbers, IW will be privatised, coillte will follow as soon as prices are favourable and the TTIP will receive this government’s enthusiastic support. Happy days.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:48 PM

    I’m pretty sure that if the Gardaí for some reason want to find out your pps number they can do so fairly readily as things stand.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:19 PM

    Only in limited circumstances. The eventual plan is to outsource all fine collection to the “Department of Social Protection ” an Orwellian misnomer if ever there was one. If we are not careful we will be completely controlled by an unholy trinity of Revenue, Social protection and Justice – under the direction of the Gang of Four, in the fairly near future.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:40 PM

    Sheik, we have already lost our sovereignty already once we accepted the Euro, all that is next is political union and that will end democracy here for good.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:33 PM

    FG + FF are two cheeks from the same arse. Labour will go the same way as the Greens.. The political landscape is about to change dramatically here in Ireland. One things for sure, the Irish electorate are a lot wiser…

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:03 PM

    The reason 99% of people go into politics is for the money the other 1 % who are in politics try to make changes never get the chance because no one listens to them. Money talks in politics & always will. Just look at what is happening every day of the year, hospitals, schools no money, people loosing their homes, jobs. Dole numbers may be down according to the gov but that is because of the jobs bridge/scam bridge, people leaving the country to try find work somewhere else. Does anyone really believe anything that comes out of a politician’s mouth anymore. I don’t believe anything they say anymore except that i’m going to have less & less to live on each month, because of the new ideas that the gov is coming up with on a daily bases which is costing me more & more because of the extra taxes. PLEASE COME KNOCKING ON MY DOOR NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR VOTES AS I HAVE A FEW THINGS I WANT TO DISCUSS WITH YOU.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:11 PM

    Fianna Fáil – a party synonymous with corruption and the destruction of this country.

    But I’d vote for FF before I’d ever vote SF.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:58 PM

    If I had a choice of either voting FF or SF I simply wouldn’t vote.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:19 PM

    Politicians are like nappies, they need to be changed regularly and for the same reason.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:13 PM

    I see at least eight politicians disagree with me.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:16 PM

    FF wrecked the country .. FG & LB have blamed & taxed the people to death for the sake of banksters & bondholders .. Time for change total change ..

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:43 PM

    You forgot to mention the developers…….blame everyone but yourself.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:23 PM

    A No vote in both referendums will end FG and Labour.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:31 PM

    How about a referendum on keeping Irish water in Irish public ownership instead of the totally unnecessary referendums we are having –

    - gays getting married and being equal to a normal couple when applying to adopt a child – bonkers stuff !
    - a 21 year old president – why not 18 so ?????

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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:16 PM

    Paul Circle – your use of the term ‘normal’ speaks volumes about you.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:41 PM

    Well having two Daddy’s or two Mammy’s certainly isn’t normal no matter how hard you try to convince normal people that it is!!!

    Get real – gay marriage is a bonkers idea ! Think of the children.

    That’s why I’ll be voting NO.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:35 PM

    A No vote in both will end Kenny, that’s why everybody should.

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    Apr 1st 2015, 1:27 AM

    The Germans have spoken .Water will be privatised no plebiscite not now not ever, so long as the establishment exist, get out and voice your exception at the next general election, get them out, for the good of democracy. …Please.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:14 PM

    Wasn’t there a poll this week putting SF and FG at 24%, Labour at 7% and FF at 17%? there is a 3% margin for error too.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:53 PM

    This definitely looks like an outlier when it comes to the SF vote. I don’t think they’re on 24% either, but they’re higher than 17%.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:41 PM

    Merkel wants another F.G. Government here as Enda is the best lap dog she ever had…

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:15 PM

    The only time I hear of O’ Cuiv is after a bad poll, he is clearly doing nothing to rebuild the party.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 9:52 PM

    He has been living off his link with Dev for too long. He is useless. When he did have a bit of nuance within FF he did feck all

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    Mar 30th 2015, 10:22 AM

    Met O’Cuiv a few times. Very smart and got a big reputation for looking after connemara.

    I think FF should use him more, his view of his party is refreshing…

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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:55 PM

    How can numbers drop for SF in two days. Very odd . I think its a matter of who they ring. That is all. Even if SF down do not believe for one second FG are up. Its complete rubbish. Numbers massaging. I won’t care if SF get a percentage of 50 in these polls. Only thing that will matter is the votes in GE .

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:42 PM

    We’ll wait and see at the next election at what lies ahead .. All I know is that they’ve (FG-LAB) have lost my vote (for what it’s worth)

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:49 PM

    The day can’t come fast enough. But I wouldn’t be so optimistic frankly. Fianna Fail could come out in support of baby rape and they’d still get 17% of the vote. They have the imbecile vote locked up.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:35 PM

    F.F. is going to be called the Tumbleweed party from now on?

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    Mar 29th 2015, 6:32 PM

    Why isn’t a survey done all over Ireland and then see the real truth

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:35 PM

    Until FF stand up and admit what they did to the country and apologise for their actions, the electorate will not support them again. The actions of Ahern and Cowan destroyed the lives of tens of thousands of people and as yet FF have not admitted their policies where wrong. I’m not a fan of FG, but at least their actions do not smell of the same level of corruption and cronyism that we expected from FF et al.

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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:43 PM

    Fianna Fáil is ‘facing demise’ ………
    All Political Parties are facing demise like other well known outlived institutions who abused the citizens.

    ———- Financial Predators ———–
    Political Parties who max your tax …. for their own vested interests like
    Landlords who max your Rent and
    Banks who max your Debt.
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    Mute Gaeltán
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    Mar 29th 2015, 3:10 PM

    FG don gheilleagar agus SF don chultúr agus aontas na tíre. Sin comhrialtas duit! Tá na meáin uilig glan in aghaidh SF, an Sindo ach go háraithe -nuachtán William Martin Murphy tráth den tsaoil, níor athrigh siad riamh.

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:49 PM

    Martin is a train wreck.

    FF need a new leader if they have any chance of surviving.

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    Mute Rob Mills
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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:48 PM

    Don’t, don’t, don’t, don’t believe the shite.

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    Mute Pat Ferns
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    Mar 29th 2015, 7:21 PM

    Polls mean nothing, they are only a snap shot in time. The next election will be won and lost in the last week of the campaign. Look what happened on the Seanad election , nobody foresaw the final count. And the presidential was also won in the last week.

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    Mute Mark O'Hagan
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    Mar 29th 2015, 5:54 PM

    Wait until the next by-election and then we will get an accurate picture of the state of the parties in the real world.

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    Mute Brendan
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    Mar 29th 2015, 9:56 PM

    Poor FF, sob, sob. You shower wrecked our country and destroyed people’s lives. Just go away.

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    Mute Anthony Lang
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    Mar 29th 2015, 8:53 PM

    Because of our specific system of proportional representation and large multi seat constituencies, it produces fascinating but largely futile and meaningless series of internecine party political disputes.

    Politics in Ireland becomes more like a sport than a meaningful engagement with political values, ideology and the bigger notions of social justice. Instead, we have clientelism and mutual back scratching etc.

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    Mute dorothy giselsson
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    Mar 29th 2015, 4:58 PM

    Ireland has never known how to be a truly du critic independent nation. Since the creation of the Republic we have had governments who handed over the running of the state to the church, then to Brussels and then to the Banks. If we to call ourselves an independent democracy we have to take back our power, take responsibility and stop expecting to be taken care of by other nations and stop blaming them for our fiascoes. Sadly, I can’t see that happening any time soon.

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    Mute mccart
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    Apr 2nd 2015, 1:28 PM

    HACK ATM AND BECOME RICH TODAY
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    Mute D. Moran
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    Apr 1st 2015, 1:16 AM

    Demise i wish, and not a moment to soon.

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