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This Kerry peninsula shows how the Irish have communicated for thousands of years

An expert talks us through how it all works.

THIS FRIDAY – 16 September – Culture Night takes place across the island of Ireland. 

There will be a wealth of events taking place across towns, villages and cities, from gallery openings to talks. This week, we’ll be highlighting some of the more unusual happenings. Aoibheann Lambe will be giving a talk on Communications on Iveragh­ from the Present to the Stone Age on Friday. She’ll be talking about everything from rock art inscriptions to transatlantic cables. Here’s a flavour of what to expect. 

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Wildly beautiful and strategically located, the Iveragh Peninsula in Co Kerry has been a hub of communications for millennia.

Right up to the 1960s, the cable stations at Valentia and Waterville were operational,­ a third station at Ballinskelligs having closed in 1923.

A telegraphic cable, which was the precursor of the internet, radio and television, was used to send the first ever transatlantic cable message on 5 August 1858.

It was sent from Iveragh’s Valentia Island to Heart’s Content, Newfoundland, Canada.

Whereas the quickest a message could be received in Newfoundland before this point was only as quick as the fastest ship, the cable message would be received almost immediately.

But speed came at a price -­ each letter in a message cost $1, payable in gold.

Look Out Posts

Identical small flat­roofed huts, 9 feet by 13 feet, built from 137 interlocking pre­cast blocks of concrete, with a six angled window at sea­ward side were a familiar sight on Irish headlands.

These were Look Out Posts (LOPs) and 83 of them were constructed 8­10 miles apart along the coast from Dublin to Malin between the years 1939 and 1942, during WWII, ‘the Emergency’.

Close to the huts, the word EIRE and the identifying number assigned to the particular LOP were spelled out in stones painted white and in large enough to be visible from a plane, so they could provide a navigational aid.

They were manned around the clock by members of the Local Defence Forces. The training the watchers received included signalling and morse code.

These small buildings had a fireplace and were well equipped, with a telescope, binoculars, signal flags, lamps and bicycles. By mid1940, most LOPs also had phones and  served not only to watch out for ships and submarines, but provided a means of communication for the local community in the case of more personal emergencies.

The Iveragh LOPs were at Lambs Head, Bolus Head, Bray Head (in the old signal tower) and at Foileye near Kells.

Signal stations

Bolus Barracks

 

The French Revolution started in 1789 and by 1796, the First French Republic had made an unsuccessful attempt to assist the outlawed Society of United Irishmen in ousting the British at Bantry. This was followed by rebellions in Ireland, one in 1798 led by Wolfe Tone, leader of the United Irishmen and one in 1803, by Robert Emmet.

In the early 1800s, in response to the ongoing threat of a French invasion, the British Admiralty erected 81 signal stations along the coast of Ireland. Communication was with ships offshore and between adjacent signal stations along the coast.

Signalling was done from a 15m mast on the seaward side of the signal tower where one large rectangular flag and a smaller flag (a pennant) and four balls would be hoisted.

With good visibility, these signals could be seen by each adjacent station.

The Napoleonic Wars ended in 1815 with the Battle of Waterloo and the stations became obsolete and were abandoned. The signal station at Bray was re­used as a LOP during WWII.

Viking homes

Writing communicates on many levels beyond the literal meaning of the words. The language and alphabet used, the material on which the inscription is made and where it is located, all this and more can provide information and clues regarding many subjects including identity, population movement and belief systems.

In the 1950s, a Runic inscription, which was a rarity in Ireland, was found on a lintel stone on Beginish Island in Valentia Harbour.

The introduction of rabbits to the island in the 1920s caused erosion which led to the appearance 30 years later of a number of medieval houses which had been concealed beneath the sand.

Three of the houses on the island are listed as Viking/Hiberno­Norse, with two of them dating from the 10th and one from the 11th centuries. Viking artefacts were found there, including a soapstone bowl of 10th century Scandinavian type and a style of ringed pin you would not expect to find outside Viking Dublin.

The floor of the 11th century house is below ground level, and built in a style known as Grubenhaus, or sunken floor, construction. Employed in various parts of the world including Scandinavia, this style was not used in Irish construction.

Inside the entrance passage to this house was a Runic inscription, which is interpreted as reading: Uir erected this stone; Munulfr carved (the) runes.

Was there a particular significance attached to the physical act of carving Runes? A cross is also engraved on the stone suggesting that the Hiberno­Norse settlers had become Christian.

Ogham script

Signal Station Bray Head

The ogham script, dating from the 4th to the 8th centuries AD, is an alphabet based on the Roman one. It is composed of from one to five parallel lines or notches, placed on, to either side of, or diagonally across a stem­line called a flesc which is usually formed by the angle of a pillar stone.

Those placed on the line represent vowels while the remainder represent consonants. It is normally read from the bottom up.

Ogham is the earliest recorded form of the Irish language. There are 578 records of Ogham stones in Ireland, with the highest concentrations in the South, particularly in Co Kerry, including Iveragh.

However, Ogham stones are also found in Britain, particularly in Wales and Scotland, suggesting a movement of people from Ireland to these regions. An insight into the society that made them can be gleaned from the inscription, which normally comprises the name of a person followed by the name of the father, which is introduced by the word MAQI, meaning ‘son of’.

A much earlier form of communication is a form of engraving, once thought to date to the Bronze Age but increasingly believed to date from over four thousand years ago, to the Stone Age.

Rock art

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Rather misleadingly referred to as ‘rock art’, it is composed of abstract geometric symbols on stone, often engraved on rocky outcrops located on mountain pasture.

Iveragh has the highest concentration of rock art sites in Ireland, with well over 200 examples of these enigmatic carvings ­- many new finds having been made by the author.

With such a wealth of rock art, Iveragh must have been an important destination. While history does not provide us with an explanation regarding the meaning and purpose of rock art, the same style of motifs that are found in Iveragh are found beyond Ireland in Spain, Portugal, Scotland, England, Wales, Switzerland and farther afield in Hawaii, Nevada, Namibia and many other countries.

While the motifs are highlighted by the slanting rays of the setting sun, they are spectacular by torch light.

The information on the Signal Towers, Look Out Posts and the Transatlantic Cable Station was kindly provided by Tom Horgan of Heritage Iveragh. The Iveragh Peninsula, An Archaeological Survey of South Kerry and The Iveragh Peninsula, A Cultural Atlas of the Ring of Kerry were valuable source materials for the other topics. Aoibheann Lambe is currently doing a research masters at UCC on the Rock Art of
Cork and Kerry. All photos: Aoibheann Lambe.

Communications on Iveragh from the Stone Age to the Present takes place at the Tech Amergin Community Arts and Education Centre in Waterville, Co Kerry, from 8.30 – 10.30pm. For more details, see here.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:50 PM

    Don’t tell Tony McGregor

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:52 PM

    Got on a London bus two weeks ago and the driver said they haven’t accepted cash for four years, you can pay with your debit/credit card if it is contactless, you just tap it…….

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:19 PM

    @Fat Face 98: good man, that’s a so called Oyster card, or you can use your visa contactless card here, we have a lot of catching up to do with the times in Ireland.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:56 PM

    @Fat Face 98: yep even out in the wilds of Surrey, London Transport services have tap and go on their buses for at least four years. Most services don’t have Wi-Fi, which clearly shows that getting on a bus is more important than Wi-Fi availability (especially given 4g rollout for UK&IE is already complete)…..

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:00 PM

    @Fat Face 98: Don’t compare the British with the Irish they are only 154 years running trains underground so sure they have made all the transport mistakes we need to learn from?
    No paddy won’t copy Tommy

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 8:31 PM

    @Gareth Cooney: built and often run by Irish, so why not….?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 9:08 PM

    @Paul: you can pay using an Oyster Card or your contactless Debit or Credit Card, sorry but I must be missing your point…..

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:32 AM

    @Fat Face 98: exactly. It’s fuppin ridiculous when it takes 24-48 hours or more to top up your leap card on the app. Rip off Ireland.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 4:24 PM

    @Lynda Ní Mhurchú: the leap card app tops up straight away, can even set it up to automatically top up once reaches a certain amount on card.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:41 PM

    Why aren’t people using leap cards?

    I don’t even live in Dublin and I have one, awful handy to top up and use.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:54 PM

    @Barry Somers: sometimes your card is out of credit and you gotta use cash! Happens to me sometimes, or you forget your card

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:59 PM

    @Barry Somers: I’ve been overcharged several times on it.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:01 PM

    @Cian Rynne: top up on your phone?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:11 PM

    @Cian Rynne: Dublin Bus is a public service. You are entitled to offer your name address and some ID in return for a journey if you have no cash. It’s in the by-law and they cannot refuse you as it is not a private service

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:26 PM

    @Thomas Cullen: no way!

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:27 PM

    @Barry Somers: What of tourists and people that live outside Dublin.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:30 PM

    @Cian Rynne: hook up your leap card to your bank account and it will top up automatically when your balance is under 5 euros.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:31 PM

    @The Girl: You think tourists and those living outside Dublin go to the Dublin Bus HQ to claim their change!

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:15 PM

    @Cian Rynne: I don’t have a leap card but in the event that you forget it can you not store the card in your digital wallet and tap and go from there.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:49 PM

    @Thomas Cullen: no it’s not , if you don’t have a vaild ticket a fixed fare penalty applies.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:34 AM

    @Barry Somers: in a train station maybe but online it takes days to go on your card. Crazy when we have top IT services available in the city.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 7:40 AM

    @The Girl: this is hard to believe now but us culcies have leap cards here aswell

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:53 PM

    Surely that is illegal. Why not just change the fare structure?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:55 PM

    @Colm Ó hAodhagáin: yes i wouldve thought its illegal too?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:19 PM

    @Generation Snowflake: im no lawyer, but that smells like it would be a violation of the sale of goods act?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:40 PM

    @Colm Ó hAodhagáin: should be able to tap with ur debit card like in the uk

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:33 PM

    @Colm Ó hAodhagáin: yeah why not call it 3 euro ffs

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:09 PM

    @John Longmore: yes they should of course only scrap the refunds once they have actually rolled out the cashless / contactless options instead of just saying they are looking coward to it !! , until then it’s disgraceful they can just tell customers they are keeping the millions in over payments , behaving like the protected species they are as usual

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:58 PM

    @Rear Admiral: how is it illegal? Your allowed to travel once you have the exact fare, and have your bus fare ready before you board the bus.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 9:24 PM

    @James Molloy:

    >Your allowed to travel once you have the exact fare

    except that is not what they are saying. its that they dont pay back the excess to the exact fare.

    it doesnt matter that much that if you have 3eur and the fare is 2.85 you lose 15c. but at some time that fare will be 3eur and if you only have a 5eur note they’re screwing you for 2 quid!

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:14 AM

    @Rear Admiral: they are not accepting notes no matter what.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 2:57 AM

    @Dave Hammond: i don’t think there “keeping” your change. As it says around 10% of the change is actually collected. This is money saving and to push people towards leap cards

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 2:57 AM

    @Dave Hammond: i don’t think there “keeping” your change. As it says around 10% of the change is actually collected from HQ. This is money saving and to push people towards leap cards

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:19 PM

    If you want a cashless system you should accept all cards. We don’t live in Dublin we visit once or twice a year and use the bus maybe 4/6 times. We had one leap card but it didnt have credit on it. 2 adults 3 kids nearly €10 a trip for fare, won’t take notes, can’t tap a debit or credit card and exact change only. Such a pain, technology in the dark ages and now an added rip off. The London transport system is so much better. It must seem like we are in the dark ages to Tourists from other countries. Leaves such a bad impression.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:17 PM

    @Siobhan O’Connor: go live in London so!

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:45 PM

    @Rodney Williams: No, just add contactless payments. It’s the same crap. Shannon Tunnel toll doesn’t take cards at all FFS. Tag or cash and unlike the M50 no discount for Tag either.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 11:47 AM

    @Rodney Williams: I don’t want to live in London or Dublin because of traffic and lack of transport, but if Ireland as a country wants to attract tourism for revenue then we have to compete with the likes of London and transport that is in the dark ages doesn’t leave a good impression.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:48 PM

    The leap card is great even if you don’t live in Dublin. But to top up your leap card is an absolute pain. Most shops outside Dublin don’t do it, and if you do it online it’s still a pain because the funds don’t automatically go to the card.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:54 PM

    @Jack: It’s simple with the phone app.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:58 PM

    @Jack: if your mobile does NFC you can use your phone

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:01 PM

    @Jack: What’s a Bus, Jack.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:10 PM

    @Henry: As Barry said, only if you have a supported smart phone which a lot of people may not. It needs NFC and to be android

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:10 PM

    @Henry: I think only on android. Not sure if it works on Apple. It’s a great app though on android.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:33 PM

    @Conor Egan: Apple phones have NFC, but in typical Apple style they only work with Applepay, sums up Apple really, the new age (not invented here) Microsoft

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:11 PM

    @Rear Admiral: it’s more got to with apple getting a percentage of all in-app purchases, there’s several app publishers who don’t have top-up/credit purchase within their IOS apps, same reason you can’t buy kindle books from within the Apple Kindle App.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 10:31 PM

    @Jack: you can download the app and top it up. Funds go onto it straight away

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 10:33 PM

    Not all phones supported @Andy Moran :(

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:03 PM

    Should be able to just tap a debit card at this stage.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:11 PM

    Just an excuse to get in more money rather than reform

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:31 PM

    @Irish Bob: I don’t know anybody who goes to collect their change

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:38 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Thats fine if they happy with that, but this makes it mandantory.
    Why not give the ‘change’ money to charity ?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:20 PM

    @Irish Bob: they do at the moment. Any of the unclaimed excess goest to charity apparently.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 1:10 AM

    @Irish Bob: the article says that instead of change the extra money raised will go to some charity.

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 8:49 AM

    @joe: “the extra change will go towards continuing to improve our services”

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 8:51 AM

    @Oisín O’Connor: It also says ““the extra change will go towards continuing to improve our services””

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:47 PM

    Akin to the tolls
    2euro coin on a 1.90 fee
    No change

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:59 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: all the tolls give change.manned or unmanned.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:09 PM

    @Seriously stunned: No they don’t

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:27 PM

    @Seriously stunned: express lanes no change given

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:27 PM

    @Colin McNamara: You mustn’t drive much. I got 10c back at three different booths tlast weekend.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:04 PM

    @Terrence Edwards: same here but I was in first gear ready to charge when I heard 10 cent drop out. It is a new one to me.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:27 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: they price the tolls accordingly, so what is €2.90, people throw in €3 out of handiness, and leave the 10c. All those 10cents add up.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:34 PM

    @Terrence Edwards: they do not give you change.
    Look up at the signs before you drive in the next time
    25k made in one county by the 10c non refund

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:19 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: tips for staff

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:27 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: drive to the far left unmanned one, the one the trucks usually go to. It gives change. Express lanes don’t.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:43 PM

    @Conor Egan: exactly
    Most use express lanes
    No reason why the machines can’t give the 10c change

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:22 PM

    Why do I get the feeling we’re being short changed here…

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:43 PM

    Couldn’t just use your card like you can in most shops.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:30 PM

    Interesting so if a supermarket or a hairdresser has no change can they keep it and claim rightful ownership of your money ,and renovate there business too make it better ??

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:51 PM

    @John Leonard: point is you wouldn’t go back if they did that. Unfortunately our wonderful semi state thinks they can just take people’s money.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:53 PM

    I used to give me receipts to the homeless when I visited Dublin if I didn’t have change.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:52 PM

    Great. Now that the NTA have become so progressive perhaps they can extend this reasoning to taxis also which are under the NTA’s remit. Next time a passenger offers me €50 for a €5 fare I can apply the same logic. The NTA are a useless shower of robbing c****!

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:02 PM

    @Marc Bryan: do u offer pay by card option?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:10 PM

    @Marc Bryan: The best option for that is to over them their change in 2 euro coins. See how quickly they produce something else then.

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    Mute Dave Cunningham
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:58 PM

    @Marc Bryan: A €5 fare in a taxi? Where do you be dropping them to? The other side of the road??

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    Mute Marc Bryan
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:09 PM

    @Al Madzer: I do.

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:00 PM

    @Marc Bryan: good man.

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    Mute ℝ
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:43 PM

    Utterly disgraceful that Dublin Bus doesn’t have a tap and pay facility by now, especially as nearly all banking cards have contactless chips, and they have Wi-Fi services across the network. If you live in Ireland Leap card make sense but not all visitors know about them and actually getting one isn’t seamless either….

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    Mute Paddy Power
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:10 PM

    Now that’s called robbery.

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    Mute Bobby Daly
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:53 PM

    Unclaimed money should go to a charity. Why should Dublin bus be allowed to keep it?

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    Mute andyearley
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:25 PM

    I have never once redeemed a change ticket. And I doubt I am in the minority.
    So it’s not much of a change really. I just do not have an option anymore.

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    Mute Mark McHale
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:28 PM

    The issue is the huge amount of Tourists who use the bus system and don’t have a clue about the weird rules. It’s a disgrace. We need to welcome foreign visitors and make things easy for them to get around , not refuse them after waiting in line.

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    Mute Colm Walsh
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:03 PM

    Leap cards are fine until the practically disintegrate after a few months in your pocket from use. They are shite quality. I’ve had 3 and all of them fell apart and the funds on the card dissappear with them unless you know the card number which wears off within the first few days of use. Cowboys Ted!

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:15 PM

    @Colm Walsh: register it when you get it that way you can claim the balance back if you lose it.

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    Mute talkingsense
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:38 PM

    @Colm Walsh: have my card 5 years and can still clearly read the number. What are you doing to yours that it’s falling apart?

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    Mute halfmanhalftea
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 9:31 AM

    @Darren Byrne: When you contact them to say you’ve lost it they tell you it takes a few days to cancel it. In the mean time some git has found the card and used the credit on it. DB won’t repay you the credit you’ve lost.

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    Mute Sam Glynn
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 4:28 PM

    @Colm Walsh: maybe store your card somewhere better than your back pocket. Learn from your mistakes…. It’s not the cards fault. I’ve had the same card for almost two year, never keep it in my pockets, same with my part and friends.

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    Mute DeFonz
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:20 PM

    Leap Card still not available on apple iphone , ridiculous that half the population are blocked from using their phones,….and it doesn’t sound as if all android phones can get it..

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    Mute Eon Cocker
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:54 PM

    @DeFonz: also prepaid leap bus tickets and bus tickets bought online CANNOT be validated on the bus at the time of journey. They need to be validated in a news agent BEFORE they are used !!! It’s a f****ing disgrace

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    Mute Paddy Walsh
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:17 PM

    @DeFonz: talk to Apple about that for locking down the technology in their phone so much. They’ve basically taken it out of the hands of Leap

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    Mute Dan Morgan
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:38 AM

    @Eon Cocker: and the reason for this is that the Dublin bus ticket machines are so old, they can’t connect to the web to check your cards balance/valid tickets, so to get around this your balance and tickets are physically written on the card. You can also collect your ticket using the app on your phone, or any luas stop or train station.

    Thus is the same as Oyster card in London btw, but that doesn’t fit the “sure we can’t do anything right here, so we cant” narrative.

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    Mute Lynda Ní Mhurchú
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:47 AM

    @Paddy Walsh: how come if you pay into your bank account or your pre pay electricity/ gas or whatever online it goes straight on…apple phone or not?

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    Mute Paddy Walsh
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 10:41 AM

    @Lynda Ní Mhurchú: None of those involve the usage of what is basically an offline wallet feature in the card, so I don’t really see the relevance of the comparison? The realities of leap are that something with connectivity to the central servers and system needs to be able to write to the card in order to put credit or tickets on them, and Android phones’ NFC devices are open enough to developers to support this, where iPhones are more locked down.

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    Mute Will Lynch
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 7:13 PM

    It’s not like an organization in Ireland to discontinue something before having its equivalent in place.

    It probably made too much sense to introduce contactless debit card payment as well as the leap card at the same time

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    Mute Dotty Dunleary
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:48 PM

    Don’t use the Bus too much and when I go to use the Leap card I forget how much is on it and end up with too much money on it for months!

    Should be an App which shows your balance etc.

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    Mute Sam Glynn
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:18 PM

    @Dotty Dunleary: the leap card app does just that.

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    Mute Dr. Udaya Khandavilli
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:37 PM

    Leapcard app can’t even download in most of the android mobile phones. If you top up in online, again its a big hassle to activate the balance. We need some ‘change’ here!

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    Mute Colm Malone
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 10:07 PM

    If Dublin Bus try to introduce anything new like a new pay system the drivers always go on strike :)

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    Mute ABCD
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 5:33 PM

    They might want to make it a bit easier to find out how much a fair is so

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    Mute Daniel J Swagrzyk
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:00 PM

    And who keeps the money??

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    Mute Andy Byrne
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 3:46 PM

    Sure Dublin bus will actually lose money on this, how many unclaimed refund tickets are there?

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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:01 PM

    @Andy Byrne: As stated in the Article €5.7 million from unclaimed change receipts in the past six years

    “According to figures released to TheJournal.ie earlier this year, Dublin Bus earned €5.7 million from unclaimed change receipts in the past six years.”

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:33 AM

    @Irish Bob: busman’s holiday

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 8:51 AM

    @Lynda Ní Mhurchú: Excellent !! .. id say thats where some of it goes alright

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    Mute David Quigley
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 6:43 AM

    Shane Ross decided this. Coins annoy him and the clinking sound they make remind him of poor people.

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    Mute Aindriú Mac Giolla Eoin
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 4:52 PM

    Can Dublin Bus take Contactless Cards yet ?

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    Aug 23rd 2018, 5:22 AM

    It’s not a refund, it is your change! Why not use contactless NFC point for your debit card instead of messing about with coins in the first place?

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    Mute Krystian Brzezowski
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 12:12 AM

    What a nonsense. Tell that to the tourist you weird Dublin Bus people. Where can a tourist purchase a ticket for the bus if he wasn’t told beforehand? From where can tourist get a change for the bus? My God will those stupid people in DB ever learn anything? Can they possibly travel to different countries and take some example? Bunch of

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    Mute Allan Mathew
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 9:47 PM

    Part of the Rip Off Ireland process.
    Miserable jack asses

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    Mute Colm Malone
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 9:49 PM

    @Allan Mathew: if Dublin Bus tried to introduce the tap & pay system the drives would probably strike :)

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    Mute David Thomas Martin
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 3:54 PM

    Get a taxi……..

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    Mute Tweeter
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 6:29 PM

    Omg they are fooking assh*les, I hope they bite themselves in the foot and ppl stop paying cash!!

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    Mute Andy Moran
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 10:36 PM

    @Tweeter: that’s what the aim is! Eventually it will be cashless system

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    Mute Wobbles O'Toole
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    Aug 22nd 2018, 2:40 PM

    Why not just have debit cart tap machine ?

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    Mute Margaret Kane
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    Aug 23rd 2018, 4:54 PM

    That is called robbing the people

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