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EVERY NOVEMBER, THE debate about whether Irish people should wear poppies rears its head.
Fine Gael senator Frank Feighan this morning said he’s asking Irish politicians to wear a shamrock poppy – a special commemorative design which honours Ireland’s dead in the First World War.
However, many see the poppy as a symbol of the British Army and not just as something which honours those who died over 100 years ago.
This morning we want to know: Would you wear a shamrock poppy?
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@James Wallace: not at all. But only certain areas should be designated for high rise, like the docks and certain sections of the inner city. That would be normal practice in most cities. Building nine storey blocks ( two stories higher than the Mater hospital) in the middle of an area that is all two story houses will look out of place. Not to mind the bland architectural style they will no doubt use. Tall blocks in the right areas can be done well. Sandyford, Dundrum, bushy park are good examples. Politicians are now trying to use the housing crisis ( governments fault) to fast track ridiculous housing schemes to maximize profits for their donors. If they were serious about the housing crisis they could ban Air b’nb’s.
The developers sent in one application – which was approved- and have now issued a completely different set of plans. The housing they propose is mostly 1 bed & 2 apts unsuitable for affordable family living. Probably more suited to student single worker rental market.
The houses they have built were originally priced too expensive.
No matter what happens, something will be built in this backyard, it is preferable that the right thing is built.
The height restriction was 19 meters, the proposal includes 2 new ones at 25 meters – 33% above the limit.
Ha 9 storeys isn’t that high, in my neighbourhood in Barcelona that would be average height and there are a least 50 apartments blocks over 10 storeys in my area with an average population density of 20,000 people/sqkm. Dublin needs more highrise apartments and 9 storeys is a good start. To move into the 21st century we have to be realistic when it comes to town/city planning. It’s just not going to be possible for everyone to live in a house when the population reaches a certain number. By increasing population density we can offer and improve services such as transport, waste collection and healthcare.
As long as a decent peecentage of the apartments are affordable then I don’t see what the big deal is.
@Catalanista: We’re not in Barcelona! The building regulations are not the same! Try build it in D4 and see what happens! You can’t even get a transport system to build there. One rule for D4&D6 and another rule for everybody else. Build homes for the homeless. Not more apartments. We have enough overpriced apartments in this city
@Thomas Sheridan: Hmm I lived in Dublin for 3 years and I’ve lived in Barcelona for 4 years, care to explain your opinion or have you only seen the ‘theme park version’ of the city filled with tourists? Just as the overpriced tourist trap Temple Bar is not representative of Ireland neither are the Ramblas. Have you spoken to any of the locals? Better weather, way better healthcare, bilingual city, good food, plenty of culture. Spain’s bad reputation is mainly due to the tourists. Were you too busy drinking cheap wine maybe you didn’t even set foot out of the pub
@Whoswho: That’s all very well and good and it just about works for the timebeing but could you imagine if other capital cities around the world thought the same? No London, NY, HK. I think certain neighbourhoods should be knocked down, people should be rehoused and then avenues and metro lines could be built easier to make the city more efficient, that’s what the Paris and Barcelona did. I know it’s a terribly unpopular idea but it was a success for future generations
@Patrick Nolan: Sorry – the council is not guaranteed any amount of apartments if you actually understood the process. They can give a separate site or just give the council money. Please educate yourself before trying to make a valid point
@Catalanista: My sister lives outside Valencia during the summer. She did her Erasmus year there, in 1995 i think… Its about the same size as Dublin, population wise.Since then, the Spanish local authorities have built 5 metro lines, a ringroad motorway, motorway access to the centre from north, south and west, and several museums and parks. Why is this viable? The population density is higher. And Valencia has a historic centre that puts Dublin to shame, so the constraints aren’t an issue either…
@Whoswho: are you for real? there are 9 storey apartments already in Dublin 4 and more being constructed. The new ones are right in the middle of D4 and are surrounded by older and nicer houses than in Glasnevin. Real not on my doorstop mentality.
So locals don’t like slightly too high buildings but don’t mind homeless bodies being found every month. Welcome to Ireland. It’s not just polititions that are messed up in Ireland.
@Shane Hughes: You’ve got it the wrong way around; They do claim care about homeless people and I’m sure many of the complainers donate to homeless charities etc. but when it comes to actually building the housing that would house these people and lower prices for the buyers the “not in my backyard” and “not if it’s over 2 storeys” NIMBYism comes straight out.
We need about a hundred projects like this happening right now all across the city. 9/10 story apartment blocks should be the norm rather than the exception.
@Kieran Campbell: This development is way out of proportion to the existing houses. We need Social housing! Not expensive apartments for landlords and developers to make money from. This should not go ahead!
@Whoswho: yes it’s way out of proportion because the existing housing does not work! The population is too large so dense housing is needed.
Apartments are essential single people or no child couples should not be taking up 3/4 bed houses and of course apartments are a better option for social housing than houses.
@John Cummins: The builder has not said there will be any social housing as part of the build so please actually read the article before making a comment. What do you mean a couple should not take a 3/4 bed house? People do not have to buy a property based on your ideas of what type of property they should live in. There is already enough apartments in the city. We need Social houses! This is not it and should not proceed!
@Whoswho: funnily enough I did read it.
So you think the council should continue building 3 to 4 bed houses increasing urban sprawl and using them for social housing even though it hasn’t worked. In fact the issue is getting worse. Or should they use dense housing like apartments , like almost every other city in the world, which would have lower rents, common facilities and are easier to control.
There are no where near enough apartments in Dublin. That is a well reported issue, at the young professionals the ida are trying to attract have no where to go. They then end up living in the commuter belts where there are only 3/4 bed houses and commuting in. This is taking up a house.
@Whoswho: Instead of being insulting to peoples opinion, maybe you should educate yourself and actually read the planning submitted. There is social housing being allocated for on the site. There are over 40 apartments if I recall. That is excellent for people on a housing list and waiting for a home from the area and children go to local schools. I cannot believe you would object to such a thing.
@Vincent: I can tell you myself, from the 14th floor of an average size block. This goes up to 30 floors. 9 floors is laughable once you leave the Ireland bubble
@Vincent: Shangai which has one of the biggest cities population in the world and your trying to compare it to the capital of a tiny country in West Europe??? You think that is a comparison?
I live locally…
Build them.. build them up..build more..
Traffic is Fe*ked anyhow so just build them..
Hundreds more people seeking local services that we can all use when delivered…
Need to ensure this goes ahead so I’m gonna send in positive comments :)
@Whoswho: these size 6developments are already happening in south side Dublin. This was an industrial unit unoccupied for god knows how many years. This will improve the area and once the john player site is redeveloped it will improve even further.
@EillieEs: walking distance to town. You don’t have to use public transport and get on the bike. Will resolve the obesity problem that exists in Ireland.
@Gary Kearney: that is the downside of living in the city centre. The majority of these apartment owners will not have a car and will either use public transport, walk, cycle or take a taxi. How do you think the people who live of the M50 feel sitting in traffic for hours every week – that they should be spending with their family. Let’s be real this is not in my back yard mentality, notions of grandeur about themselves – yet in the most expensive area of Dublin – Ballsbridge already has new apartments of this type and height. Remember the houses on Iona were built when there were really no cars and therefore are contributing to the problem that exists now. The majority of owners are probably retired and should downsize anyway to allow next generation live in a house.
@Cian: Yea Right, I’ve being working shifts for over 25 years and still waiting on public transport to catch up to the 21 century, Decisions still been made by idiots in offices who assume everyone works 9 to 5 mon to fri. People will always need their cars until public transport runs at the hour people need to get to work.
I comment about Mary Fitzpatrick’s track record of losing elections and fighting with FF colleagues and it gets deleted. I never had a comment deleted before. It remains all true too :(
@Michael McLoughlin: the information she is giving is incorrect – comparing the height to Phiborough is completely wrong. This is no way near the height proposed. You are not comparing like with like! This is a 1960′s commercial build – higher ceilings etc. It is not as simple as count the number of floors from the road. This could probably accommodate 13/14 floors of residential homes. Also the proposed development for this area is higher than Daneswell Place. Crazy people are simply saying not in my back yard and then slate the government for not been able to solve the homeless problem.
9 stories is not high enough. This is prime development land in the city centre on major bus routes with plans for a metro and New railway station nearby. If there are any objections to this it should be against the proposed student element. Locals in glasnevein don’t want transient renters, they want permenant people to move in and build the community
@Whoswho: Dublin will never grow to the international scale that we can achieve and protect our future generations. More professional jobs in Dublin means better and more employment for Ireland. I say @WhosWho is rattling around only using 1 bedroom in a 5 bedroom house on Iona Road.
Might need to have a chat with the lads in Phibs’ Fire Station and make sure that they have equipment and vehicles to deal with 9 stories plus!
Then add that to the cost of building
@Rodney Williams: The developer will likely pay hundreds of thousands of Euros in levies to the council if they get the go-ahead for this. Then more hundreds of thousands of Euros will be paid in PAYE, PRSI and USC by the workers building them and millions in VAT paid by the people buying them. There’ll be no shortage of money to buy a few ladders and hoses.
That’s ignoring the fact that DFB Phibsboro should already have what they need for the tower at the beautiful shopping centre.
@Mark Boyle: You cannot guarantee how much a developer will pay in taxes and if any money is paid in taxes it will probably be only used to pay the massive shortfall on the children’s hospital. Developers will make money and any politician they pay off will make money. The community of glasnevin and surrounding areas will suffer as they will have a high rise in their area looking ridiculous, blocking their sun and the poor residents will massively add to the already blocked up transport and infrastructure system.
@Whoswho: Have you looked at the website that Mary provided in her social media post. There is sunlight analysis and it will not have any affect on the existing buildings. Have a look – it is a great site and the apartments look great. In fact I walked down there today and the houses are finished to a high standard. I would love to have one!
@Rodney Williams: sure the planned development on Dalymount Park is higher than this and the most ugliest building in Dublin on Phibsborough Shopping Centre is just being refurbished and this is considerably higher than what is proposed.
All the powers that be had to do was refurbish the towers in Ballymun. Instead, some bright spark had an idea which was followed through and they demolished the capacity to house thousands of families. But then what do us plebs know?
@Whoswho: This was an industrial site and the redevelopment for residential can only create a community. Comparing the development in Ballsbridge this is in keeping with the development plan to bring Dublin into the 21st Century.
I live in the area and I support residential developments of that density and height. There’s hardly any development land left in the area, need to make the most of what’s available. Media seem to only focus on the negative side of things
Legal advice has warned locals that objectors to development will be personally liable to be sued for contributing to the Housing Crisis which has changed the mind of a few!
@Cormac McKay Dublin: true right look what our planning laws did with multi billion investment from Apple in Galway. The time it was still going through the courts, the other data centre in another EU country was built and up and running before a final decision was given in Ireland.
@George Salter: they did that during the Celtics tiger and the need to be demolished because they are dangerous. Builders are about screwing as much money as possible out of buyers. Hi rise is about making money and nothing else
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