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Shane Ross praised BusConnects at its initial press conference. Leah Farrell/Rollingnews.ie

'He's all at sea': Ross criticised for asking for info about bus redesign three weeks after launching it

A letter sent from his constituency office asked for an “official line of detail” that he could give to his constituents on the plan.

MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT Shane Ross had a letter sent on his behalf asking for information to give to his constituents that would reassure them over the new BusConnects plan – over three weeks after he was at a press conference announcing the plan.

Speaking at that launch, Ross said that the new route design is a “radical change” but a “necessary part of the jigsaw” in solving congestion in the city centre.

He also said the new plans have the potential to “make Dublin’s public transport system in general, and its bus system in particular, work much better for the people who use it”.

The letter to the National Transport Authority on 23 July 2018, however, asked for information that could be given to residents of Stepaside, Belarmine and Kilgobbin. 

This letter – released to TheJournal.ie under the Freedom of Information Act – reads: “In recent days our office has received many queries in relation to the planned termination of the existing 44 and 47 Dublin bus routes as part of the Dublin bus route design.

“A document circulated by NBRU claims that the 47 in particular will be discontinued with no equivalent replacement service. 

At your earliest convenience, we would greatly appreciate the opportunity to clarify to members of the Stepaside, Belarmine and Kilgobbin communities that they will continue to have access to a frequent bus service.
It is clear that there is in fact an intent to continue serving the area but it would be very helpful to have an official line of detail with which to explain the issues.

Fianna Fáil transport spokesperson Robert Troy told TheJournal.ie that this shows how “out of touch” Ross is with his transport portfolio.

“It’s remarkable to think he would launch this plan without a thorough knowledge of it,” Troy said. “He was critical of my party who brought forward very legitimate concerns, in relation to routes being culled.

“In true Shane Ross form, what he says in public and in private in his own constituency are two different things. He’s all at sea.”

Green Party TD Catherine Martin – who is in the same constituency as Ross – told TheJournal.ie that Ross should have sought this detail much sooner.

“It is surprising, if not bizarre, that three weeks after the Minister for Transport launched and praised the BusConnects plan, he then belatedly seeks details of the proposed plan’s impact on his own Dáil constituency,” she said.

This is something that should have been done well in advance of warmly welcoming the plan, but not only for his own constituents because as Minister for Transport he should have sought this detail for all Dublin Bus commuters as it is a holistic, joined-up approach that is required.

‘I don’t micromanage the issues’ 

The plan’s designers say that BusConnects will cut commuting times but some locals have voiced concerns over plans to cut current routes and the requirement that the size some people’s front gardens may be reduced as a result

Ross has previously argued in favour of the BusConnects plan but sought to distance himself from the proposals at a community meeting in his constituency several weeks ago.

The Irish Times reported that Ross was speaking at the AGM of the Nutgrove Loreto Community Association and that he told those present that he had nothing to with the Bus Connects project. 

Speaking on Newstalk Breakfast, public transport planner Jarrett Walker, who helped design the BusConnects project, said the Department of Transport was kept updated during the design process.

He said that Ross “was certainly there next to us when we announced it” but may not have been briefed on an ongoing basis.

“I think it’s understandable that he delegated that to the NTA staff who are the experts in that and we designed the plan around the table with NTA and Dublin Bus and staff from the councils,” he said.

Addressing the criticism he faced, Minister Ross told RTÉ’s Today with Sean O’Rourke that reports of the meeting are accurate but that he was attempting to tell his constituents that he is not responsible for the detail of the BusConnects plan.

“Their recollection is broadly true but specifically maybe not in accordance with mine. When I got up to speak at the meeting there was an enormous map of the BusConnects plan on the table there. So it was obviously a matter for discussion,” Ross said.

What I wanted to make absolutely clear was that, yes, I do make government policy on BusConnects, bus and transport, of course I do that. But don’t ask me questions about the detail of this map in front of me, because I don’t micromanage the issues.

This led to accusations that the Minister for Transport was “asleep at the wheel”.

With reporting from Rónán Duffy

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    Mute Aisling
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    Oct 14th 2018, 10:35 AM

    It’s like a Waterford Whispers story. How anyone could vote to elect that man is beyond me.

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    Mute Seán J. Troy
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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:34 AM

    @Aisling:
    He gets results locally. That’s what it’s all about.

    Absolute disgrace, we should have a party list system.

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    Mute Frank Dubogovik
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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:41 AM

    @Seán J. Troy: so where exactly is the garda station in stepaside???

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    Mute Joseph Dempsey
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    Oct 14th 2018, 1:06 PM

    @Seán J. Troy: he certainly does, €1.8 million to renovate stepaside Garda station, it’s beyond outrageous. You could know the current building down and rebuild for a fraction of 1.8 million. The man has been a complete disappointment, once the cheer leader against gwangos and Dodgy dealing, now he’s the cheerleader for all things stroke politicians, if he had any morales left he’d be utterly ashamed of himself.

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    Mute David Harkin
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    Oct 14th 2018, 5:18 PM

    @Seán J. Troy: what results has he got locally. Like a thick I voted for him thinking he’d get Stepaside Garda Station opened again. I’m an idiot.

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    Mute Clear And Graphic
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    Oct 14th 2018, 10:36 AM

    The man is completely lost. How the hell did he get a higher minister position never mind get elected?

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    Mute rory conway
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    Oct 14th 2018, 12:00 PM

    @Clear And Graphic: he’s a genuine gadfly

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    Mute Genius 80s+
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    Oct 14th 2018, 5:17 PM

    @Clear And Graphic: The more you look at it, the country is run by ejit’s.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 10:43 AM

    Well there is a way to show our displeasure, at the polls.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:13 AM

    @Gav:
    Unfortunately his queries seem purely constituency based – as have a lot of his political antics – so a lot there might actually appreciate local tweaking!

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:48 AM

    @Gav: the fact that they voted for this mediocrity in the first place doesn’t augur well. Ross knows that all he needs to do is keep enough of his constituents sweet for reelection purposes; the national perception of him is irrelevant. Look at Lowry.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 10:51 AM

    Wonder is he the Healy Reas city cousin

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    Oct 14th 2018, 10:38 AM

    He epitomises the term “post turtle”.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 12:17 PM

    @tommytukamomo: I don’t know what the term means but he 100% looks like a turtle that lost his she’ll.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 12:17 PM

    @Tuot tuot: *Shell

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    Oct 14th 2018, 12:31 PM

    @Tuot tuot:
    If you are driving along a
    country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a post turtle.”
    “You know he didn’t get there by himself, he doesn’t belong there, he doesn’t know what to do while he’s up there, and you just want to help the poor stupid guy get down.”
    That’s a post turtle.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:08 AM

    With this new bus plan, my nieces and nephews will have to go from Clonee, to the Blanchardstown centre and then get their bus to school in Dunboyne. Completely ridiculous. Imagine traffic at Christmas time..and journey time..

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:12 AM

    @Rosie Murray Malone: Mental stuff – but them it sums up Fine Gael and it’s enablers – who don’t give a crap or clearly have a clue!

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:33 AM

    @Rosie Murray Malone: its a proposal, not a plan. You’re suppised to turn up at the of the many consultation meetings and have an input.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:37 AM

    @Neal Ireland Hello.: plan/proposal whatever! Yes I have been to the meetings in Castleknock hotel. Jack Chambers has been very involved. I bought my new house this year and delighted with the bus stop on the road to find out now that with the plan/proposal, I won’t have a direct bus route into town anymore. This certainly won’t encourage people to use public transport.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:40 AM

    @Neal Ireland Hello.: with due respect, politicians, councilors, senior civil/public servants pay lip service to the general public. It’s all about ego and legacy with these clowns. For example, if they cared then the sec gen of the health depth would have resigned over the €16 million rent for an empty building scandal. No resignation and a robust defense of it by mandarins during the week. Horrible country this is.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 1:08 PM

    @Rosie Murray Malone: The train users from Dublin West are already getting a preview at weekends. Trains run to Connolly only now. You have to get off at Connolly and then either walk, or wait 15-25 minutes for a southbound DART. Travel times to Pearse or the south city center have doubled if you’re travelling from D15. Joined-up thinking!

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    Oct 14th 2018, 1:37 PM

    @Clear And Graphic: What they actually give a crap about is privatising anything they can get their hands on.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 10:44 AM

    Baffled by this man,, so inept at his “job” yet the frightening thing is that he might get voted in again because of the parish politics he plays,, goodman for his constituency,, clueless fool for the country….

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:04 AM

    @Gordon Larney: Independents in any government are there on numbers not merit . Dont vote for an independent

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    Mute Seriously stunned
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    Oct 14th 2018, 1:06 PM

    I know its been said a thousand times but if anyone did this in any other job they’d be shown the door and told to eff off.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:06 AM

    Shame Ross!

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    Mute Cynical
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    Oct 14th 2018, 12:51 PM

    Ross is the worst thing to happen to our Transport and Tourism sectors since the crash, get him out and divide the position across two forward thinking ministers.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 1:06 PM

    Ross has to go.

    Our public transport system is a shambles – with all the knock on effects that has for economy and quality of life for people – and he seems disinterested.

    We need someone who is interested in surveying the system in detail as it is, and who is qualified to lead on its integration.

    Ross to only to be interested to the extent that he can assign capital to his constituencies. As long as the green line luas is (superficially) OK, then he doesn’t care.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 1:40 PM

    In fairness to Shane , he was good at lecturing The politicians and the people when he used write in the Indo ! Top man !
    Different when not sitting on the fence Shane ?

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    Mute Patrick Kearns
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    Oct 14th 2018, 2:42 PM

    Now instead of hoping one bus is running on time, we’ll have to rely on two and three busses actually turning up when they’re supposed to. Pigs might fly.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 12:17 PM

    What a dipstick

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    Oct 14th 2018, 11:04 AM

    The man is an incompetent buffoon if he had 2 brains he’d be twice as thick.

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    Mute ed w
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    Oct 14th 2018, 6:28 PM

    A man who looked so Good in opposition and so out of his depth as a minister who’d have thought it.

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    Mute Σ ΛΛ ΛΛ Θ
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    Oct 14th 2018, 5:16 PM

    Did Leo give him the transport position to show him up because it looks like its worked.

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    Oct 14th 2018, 5:30 PM

    The man is a first class nobhead

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    Oct 14th 2018, 12:51 PM

    What a complete fool his right hand does not know what his doing

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    Oct 14th 2018, 3:48 PM

    @Noel Cowzer: much like the hand you typed that with :)

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    Oct 14th 2018, 2:39 PM

    Remember Leo’s snow warning with this clown desperately clinging on to the lectern and balancing on one leg to look like he was standing next to him

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    Oct 14th 2018, 8:00 PM

    He’s some flute

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    Oct 14th 2018, 9:36 PM

    I keep asking him when will residents or Ireland 26 with Irish passports be able to obtain US Global entry cards just like the Irish passport holders of Ireland 6. GB. Canana etc.
    He has nit a clue what I am asking about. Says US is at fault. There is no proper vetting in Ireland 26. What B.S. You cannot coach kids soccer or teach Irish dancing without rigoroys Garda vetting

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    Oct 14th 2018, 7:00 PM

    We need directly elected ministers. That would stop nonsense like this and also break up the stranglehold of parties.

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    Oct 15th 2018, 12:42 AM

    Total waste of space

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    Oct 16th 2018, 5:39 AM

    Block head an embarrassment in the extreme. A bumbling old West Brit more suited to Westminster than to Dáil Éireann.

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    Mute Frances Lawlor
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    Oct 14th 2018, 12:14 PM

    He the minister shows no interest in part of his minintery., maybe his salary should be halved? Then he might take an interest in Dublin bus, he may well end up licking his wounds next time out!!! PFL

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    Oct 15th 2018, 12:13 AM

    Yes, he’s all at sea. That’s why he brought his bicycle.

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