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Former Justice Minister Alan Shatter. Leah Farrell/RollingNews.ie

Supreme Court rejects appeal against Alan Shatter's successful challenge to Guerin report

The Guerin report looked into the handling of Shatter of claims made by Maurice McCabe.

THE SUPREME COURT has rejected an appeal by a senior barrister in relation to a decision to uphold a challenge by former Justice Minister Alan Shatter in relation to the handling of complaints by Garda whistleblower Maurice McCabe. 

The Supreme Court today rejected an appeal by Sean Guerin SC against a Court of Appeal decision relating to a case taken by Shatter.

The case taken by Shatter regarded a report compiled by the barrister which looked into the handling of complaints by McCabe. 

The Guerin report was published in 2014 and focused on Shatter’s handling of complaints made by McCabe.

McCabe had raised issues relating to garda operations in the Cavan/Monaghan division. 

Shatter resigned in the wake of the report’s findings, but maintained that he had not acted wrongly in the affair.

In May 2016, Shatter was cleared of wrongdoing in his handling of garda corruption allegations by the O’Higgins Commission.

He won his appeal to challenge the Guerin report in November of that year and in 2017 the Court of Appeal found in favour of Shatter

The court found that the “seriously damaging” conclusions of the Guerin report were reached “in breach of fair procedures”.

Appeal 

Sean Guerin then appealed this decision to the Supreme Court, with the court ruling on the appeal today. 

Judgements were issued by Mr Justice Donal O’Donnell, Mr Justice Peter Charleton and Mr Justice William McKechnie.

The Supreme Court rejected the appeal from Guerin, but found in favour of Shatter on a different basis than the Court of Appeal. 

The Supreme Court found instead that a number of conclusions reached in the Guerin report were outside of its terms of reference. 

In the last page of his judgement, Mr Justice O’Donnell agreed with the Court of Appeal that he was “far from being critical” of the conduct of Guerin. 

He said that the timescale for Guerin to carry out the report was short, and that the source of the difficulty “can be traced to ambiguity in the nature of the role which the respondent [Guerin] was asked to perform”. 

O’Donnell also said that the difficulty around compiling the report was made worse by “a surprising lack of communication within the Department of Justice”.

“Nevertheless, I have come to the conclusion that the applicant [Shatter] is entitled to complain about the outcome of the report as it affected him,” O’Donnell said. 

O’Donnell ruled that certain conclusion were outside of the scope of the report and were not subject to any representations by Shatter.   

“The conclusions expressed, and the impressions thereby created were damaging to the reputation of the applicant,” O’Donnell said. 

Even then, if they had been preceded by an invitation to the applicant to express his views, I do not think it would have been appropriate to grant any relief.

With reporting from Sean Murray

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    Mute Leon O Haodhagain
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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:06 PM

    Very informative except – who’s buying the oil??

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:10 PM

    Those friendly guys getting fast-tracked for EU membership?

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:13 PM

    Everybody. Russian generals presentation shows it very clear. 3 undamaged pipelines. One goes to Kurds, One towards Turkey and the last one goes to territory controlled by Asad and Russians.

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    Mute John J Kelly
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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:28 PM

    Turkey

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:36 PM

    They said in the article “Via turkey”. So basically it’s either Turkey or James Bond now knows where spectre is hiding

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    Mute Len Brennan
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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:43 PM

    Turkey, a state sponsor of terrorism. They have illegally invaded a part of Northern Iraq to protect Isis supply lines, and ensure that the transport of oil to Turkey continues. This is a country that the EU is going to accept soon. By turning a blind eye to Turkeys criminal activities the EU itself is enabling terrorism. We need to remove ourselves from this malevolent entity asap.

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    Mute Patrick J O'CONNOR
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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:52 PM

    @Len Brennan……. By going on holidays to Turkey we are sponsoring ISIS indirectly.
    Boycott Turkey.
    KickTurkey out of NATO. And kick Merkel out too.
    No EEC membership for Turkey-ever.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:04 PM

    Whos selling them the weapons?

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:11 PM

    Israel apparently is one customer via Turkey. Also the donations from Gulf states are likely to be higher given the source of the info graphic.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:18 PM

    I’d say you could add a zero or two to that ‘foreign donations’ figure of 5 million! Seems very low…

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:40 PM

    DAESH also get their TOW missile systems off the US via Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 9:09 PM

    @Leon

    “…who’s buying the oil??”

    The Assad régime and, inadvertently, us.

    http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/fact-check-fund-reign-terror/21908

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    Dec 13th 2015, 9:12 PM

    @Patrick O’Connor

    “No EEC membership for Turkey-ever.”

    In order to join the EU, Turkey would have to cease recognition of the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus”, which it will never do.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 9:25 PM

    @Ciaran Mastersn……….. After Turkey’s eviction from NATO the Cyprus problem could be re-negotiated on much better terms.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 9:26 PM

    yea, i think Spectre is Recep Tayyip Erdogan

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:13 PM

    Len Brennan 100%. May I add, a hundred years ago they gave Armenians an awful time. Genocide, some call it. For the last 40 odd years, they’ve been trying to crush the Kurds. Poor Kurds got it rough from Saddam too, and Tehran never attempted to help them, to the best of my knowledge. Kurds are the best people to fight these head-hackers on the ground in their lands. If only they had some help. Instead, Turkey attacks them again and again. Yet Turkey is a buddy. The Kurds will never forgive us.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:26 PM

    Have to agree Jamie the Kurds have been putting up huge resistance to the stink of ISIS yet they get very little support, diplomacy I suppose, show too much respect to the Kurds and Turkey might get a liver?.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:31 PM

    I think the issue is William, that traditional Kurdistan would take in places like Kirkuk in northern Iraq, their homeland is rich in oil. It really is all about the money and power, and never about democracy and freedom.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:34 PM

    Patrick, one thing maybe we can agree on, Turkey needs to get out of Cyprus.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:39 PM

    Fine Jamie but Turkey and various rebel Kurdish groups have been at each others throats for years not because of oil but independence.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:46 PM

    Turkeys ally, the US and by extension the west considers the PKK to be terrorists.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:56 PM

    if its ‘via turkey’ then it stands to reason turkey is in on it and profiting regardless of where the oil ends up, some will end up in our fuel tanks, but turkey is the key.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 11:03 PM

    independence means lots of things William, control over your own perceived natural resources would be a key element.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 11:30 PM

    @Patrick O’Connor

    “…Turkey’s eviction from NATO…”

    Do you really think that will happen?

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    Dec 13th 2015, 11:54 PM

    Ok, but what about my yearly holiday in Bodrum?

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    Dec 14th 2015, 12:04 AM

    @Ciaran Masterson…….With Trump anything can happen.

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    Dec 14th 2015, 12:45 AM

    Turkey.

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    Dec 14th 2015, 12:59 AM

    Santos you keep living your life.

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    Dec 14th 2015, 1:06 AM

    This article is 100% bullshit.

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    Dec 14th 2015, 5:38 PM

    Actually, you are dead right! I’ve just translated a document about this for a major financial institution.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:42 PM

    Why bother going to such lengths to write such a bollox arcticle. We all know they get the vast vast majority of their funds through donations from the Saudi’s and oil sales to the Turks. It’s just inconvenient that they happen to be the west so called biggest allies in the region not to mention cash cows where arms sales are concerned, particularly in the Saudi’s case. Just grow a pair, do some research and print the truth. That’s what you went to college for.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:05 PM

    My sentiments exactly.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 11:58 PM

    They get weapons from Qatar too.

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    Dec 14th 2015, 1:02 AM

    McElvaney wouldn’t have a look in.

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    Dec 14th 2015, 10:02 AM

    Interestingly the terrorists most favored assault rifle is made in Russia, not the US.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:09 PM

    Not forgetting the US and Israeli governments helping to fund them.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:42 PM

    And have proof?

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:57 PM

    @Martin Ryan…… Show proof not mindless assertions. Are you trying to cover for your Islamo-Fascist pals in Saudi Arabia ,Qatar,Kuwait and Turkey-the ones who are proven founders and funders of ISIS?

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    Dec 13th 2015, 9:06 PM

    “The vast and varied weaponry being used by the armed group calling itself Islamic State is a textbook case of how reckless arms trading fuels atrocities on a massive scale” – Amnesty International

    Russian and Chinese weapons going back to Saddam Hussein’s time, American Weapons captured recently from fleeing new Iraqi army.

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/12/islamic-state-atrocities-fuelled-by-decades-of-reckless-arms-trading/

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:14 PM

    The farmland stands for the opium poppy crop and cannabis

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:18 PM

    Mostly opium If not all

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:08 PM

    Probably you, unbeknown to yourself!

    Great bunch of lads really – distributing religious books yet taxing the people and beheading half the Middle East.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:11 PM

    I posted this comment over a year ago, but it is still relevant today. Perhaps more than ever.
    “Many lorries daily cross the Turkish border near a US. army base, supplying ISIS with arms and fighters. Two German TV teams have recorded this abnormality. Also Known ISIS leaders crossing the border in both directions devoid of hindrance or control. What they forgot to show were the many lorries daily crossing in the opposite direction loaded with stolen oil from Iraq and Syria from which ISIS earn an estimated 2 to 3 million Dollars daily. Which banks are washing this money ? HSBC again ?
    A German news report – with English subtitles captions – shows that Turkey is sending terrorists into Syria:
    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/turkey-israel-directly-supporting-isis-al-qaeda-syria.html

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:11 PM

    Another good German documentary:
    Deutsche Welle (English)
    ISIS Supply Lines Originate in NATO’s Turkey : Report
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40347.htm
    AS I stated above “ Close to a US (NATO) army base”. This automatically makes the US an accomplice. They have supposedly being bombing ISIS for over one year now, but even though they claim to be capable of reading the number plate of your car, they could not find these trucks, not to mention the convoys of Toyota’s crossing open desert terrain, taking over vast expanses of Syria and Iraq. The first thing Russia done a few weeks ago was to destroy these supply lines into Syria, plus the transport of oil back into Turkey. Hence Turkey’s anger today.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:13 PM

    Israel is the Main Purchaser of ISIS Oil
    Multiple reports claim that Israel is the top purchaser of smuggled ISIS oil
    ISIS oil is transported to Israel via Turkey, according to reports
    Citing multiple sources, the Israeli business press are now reporting that Israel is the main recipient of ISIS oil:
    Kurdish and Turkish smugglers are transporting oil from ISIS controlled territory in Syria and Iraq and selling it to Israel, according to several reports in the Arab and Russian media. An estimated 20,000-40,000 barrels of oil are produced daily in ISIS controlled territory generating $1-1.5 million daily profit for the terrorist organization.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-is-the-main-purchaser-of-isis-oil/5493738

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:40 PM

    Let’s not forget that Is is now trying to build up a presence in Kandahar, Farah and Nangarhar provinces in Afghanistan. These 3 provinces are major poppy producers and IS is looking to the future as their oil revenue dries up they will try to switch to heroin to bolster their finances. The one problem that they have is that Iran is a major conduit for heroin into Europe and the Iranians are cracking down on them. So they will either have to go north and into Russia which is also clamping down or south into Pakistan. Seeing as Pakistan turned a blind eye to Al Qaeda running drugs through there to fund their war they probably will do the same for IS so long as the price is right.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:30 PM

    Left out ‘ THE JIZYA’- Sharia Law taxes imposed on Christians as ‘Protection Money’.
    And residents who leave Islam forfeit their property.Again Sharia Law sanctioned for apostates but ISIS is not taking anyone’e word for it that they will be returning to ISIS-land so sign over the property now.
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    —”There’s even a special tax on Christians, mafia-like “protection insurance” called jizyah. The Islamic State’s official magazine proudly speaks of “imposing jizyah.—”
    —”And if you try to leave ISIS land, say, to visit family? The Islamic State demands a $1,000 departure tax and temporarily claims all of your property — just in case you plan to plan to leave permanently, according to the Geneva Centre for Security Policy.—”
    http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/06/news/isis-funding/index.html

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:20 PM

    It must be slowly becoming clear to most people where ISIS are coming from and in whose interests this monstrosity was created.
    Now official :
    2012 Defense Intelligence Agency document: West will facilitate rise of Islamic State “in order to isolate the Syrian regime”
    Newly-Declassified U.S. Government Documents: The West Supported the Creation of ISIS
    http://levantreport.com/2015/05/19/2012-defense-intelligence-agency-document-west-will-facilitate-rise-of-islamic-state-in-order-to-isolate-the-syrian-regime/
    Here is what Ron Paul had to say : Former Republican congressman, and Republican presidential candidate, claims : New Evidence US Backed ISIS
    http://truthinmedia.com/dr-ron-paul-new-evidence-us-backed-isis/

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:37 PM

    And in Ireland our terrorists use fuel smuggling, bank robbery and 500 a head dinners to fund raise

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:59 PM

    And out government has chosen not to close the incentive for smuggling. Strange that.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 11:50 PM

    You should see what Labour, F.F. and F.G. do then?

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:38 PM

    The sick savage side of society led by fanatics and followed by fools. They care little for civilisation in general and live by an ourselves alone policy.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:45 PM

    As opposed to the west, who are led by greedy bloodthirsty vermin, followed by fanatics and fools who also care only for their own civilization.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:32 PM

    British sold 13 billion worth of arms to mainly middle east last year, the yanks supply nearly all isrealis weapons, one of biggest armies in the world,the same weapons that killed over 2,000 Palestinians,war on terror me holee

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    Dec 13th 2015, 11:00 PM

    @Paul Dwyer…………Some people will just never stop bitchin when they lose! Palestinians were treated much less harshly than any others who started wars. So says those whose business it is to know-see below,
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    —”Armies of the world would be rendered far less effective if they were forced to operate under the same restrictions as the IDF during last summer’s Gaza campaign, a group of former military and defense leaders from nine countries claim in a new report released Friday.

    —”Following a months-long investigation into the 50-day conflict, the High Level Military Group — made up of retired generals and defense officials from Germany, Colombia, India, Spain, Australia, the United States, France, the United Kingdom and Italy — found that Israel not only abided by the laws of armed conflict, but far surpassed their requirements, despite damning reports by the UN and non-governmental organizations that accused the IDF of potential war crimes—-”
    —The UN and NGO reports were investigated by human rights experts, and not military personnel who are most familiar with the laws of armed conflict. Without that expertise, the commissions investigating the 2014 Operation Protective Edge arrived at biased and inaccurate conclusions, Kemp said.—”
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/international-defense-experts-back-idfs-2014-gaza-campaign/.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 11:53 PM

    To the Saudis and to Israel…

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    Dec 14th 2015, 12:04 AM

    @Patrick J O’CONNOR
    1948. Palestine is renamed Israel, and the locals are forced out of their land.

    What war did the Palestinians start?

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    Dec 14th 2015, 12:45 AM

    @Santos L Harper.. There was no such people as Palestinians or a state called of Palestine. They were Arabs. 5 Arab bullying states attacked Israel the day after the UN recognized Israel in 1948. Wee Israel beat the shuite out of them and they have been bitchin’ ever since about it. Many local Arabs,in anticipation of the joyful genocide of the Jews that was about to take place left Israel days before the attack not wanting to get caught up in the mayhem. These Arabs were considered to be hostile to the new state of Israel and disallowed to return. The other Arab states didn’t want them and they became refugees. If you have a problem with that consult the UN. All steps towards Israeli statehood were done openly and legally. All offers of negotiations and compromise were turned down by the Arabs. Another attack by same bullying Arab states in 1967 led to justifiable strategic terr. appropriation by the Israelis for their own security-Golan Heights.etc..

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    Dec 14th 2015, 2:01 AM

    lol Patrick, did you just actually cite and Israeli media outlet as your source of information!?

    …and you took it as fact!

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    Dec 14th 2015, 3:56 AM

    @Cormac O Brain. …..Unlike the Islamo-Fascist paid internet shils on site here I am my own man. I post what I deem to be facts to the best of my knowledge,
    i’m fully aware that my factual posts hurt the Jew-haters. No apologies for that at all.

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    Dec 14th 2015, 4:27 AM

    Who said anything about religion!? You seem to love to hide behind the ‘Anti-Semitic’ line.

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    Dec 14th 2015, 5:21 AM

    @Cormac O Brain…..Only a fool would deny that Jew-hatred doesn’t fuel the Israeli-bashing going on.Europe by reports, itself is 40% anti-Jewish hiding under the cloak of pro-Palestinianism.. The Arabs, particularly the Palestinians, will tell you that the Euro-Pal supporters are just hypocrites who really hate the Jews-rather than they like the Palestinians. So whether people prefer the term Israeli or Zionism it’s all a cover for Jew-hatred to me and many others.
    From Alan Dershowitz:Renowned Defense Attorney
    Best-Selling Author
    Professor at Harvard Law School writing in Gatestone below.
    Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School has been described by Newsweek as “the nation’s most peripatetic civil liberties lawyer and one of its most distinguished defenders of individual rights.”
    Alan writes
    —”Finally, they nearly all deny that they are anti-Semites who hate all Jews. They claim that their hatred is directed against Israel and Jews who support the nation state of the Jewish people.—”’
    —”This then is the European problem of anti-Semitism that many European leaders are unwilling to confront because they have a built in excuse! It’s Israel’s fault—if only Israel would do the right thing with regard to the Palestinians, the problem would be solved.
    Tragically, it won’t be solved, because the reality is that hatred of Israel is not the cause of anti-Semitism. Rather, it is the reverse: anti-Semitism is a primary cause of hatred for the nation state of the Jewish people.—
    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/biography/Alan+M.+Dershowitz

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    Dec 14th 2015, 6:13 AM

    Funny how what the West inaccurately refers to as ‘anti-semitism’ sky-rocketed after last years Israeli massacre of the people of Gaza. What a coincidence two completely unrelated issues happened at the same time! Yet to protect your own apologist agenda you need to turn this into a religious issue and try to portray the Israelis as the victims.

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    Dec 14th 2015, 7:28 AM

    So let’s say that Palestine never existed (which it did, but let’s ignore that for the time being), how do you justify uprooting millions of people in the years up to 1948 by European settlers?

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    Dec 14th 2015, 7:34 AM

    @Cormac O Brain……The qualified military people from a 9 nation investigation committee(see post above) dis-agree with the likes of you and concluded that Israel acted with great restraint prosecuting a war that a terrorist regime had been waging for over 7 yrs. of Israel against the state of Israel For a 6 week war only about 2000 persons were killed a great many of them terrorists in civilian clothing and in many cases hiding behind women and kids as human shields.
    This war was just the catalyst to release again the latent Jew-hatred that was and is in the European psyche, particulary the European Catholic psyche, for over 1,000 yrs.. Only this time the object of hatred was disguised as Israel so as to make people feel less guilty about their Jew-hatred.
    Was there a like outrage over all the other killings in 2014 that came to over 31,000 killed by terror?
    —”
    —”Last year from January to September, around 13,000 terror attacks were carried out, killing 31,000 people. By contrast, in 2013, 22,000 people were killed in terrorist violence in over 11,500 attacks, Clapper disclosed during a wide-ranging world threat briefing before the Senate Armed Services Committee.
    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/dni-2014-was-deadliest-year-for-terror-attacks-in-45-years/

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    Dec 14th 2015, 7:49 AM

    Right robert. It it so refreshing to see someone who knows their facts on here instead of the usual ad hominem pointscoring hairbrained nonsense that passes for debate. Why dies everyone on here side with the arabs in wanting Israel gone?

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    Dec 14th 2015, 7:56 AM

    @Santos L Harper..,….As prev.noted the Arabs left that area for safety not wanting to get caught up in the genocide of the Jews that they expected to occur with the Arab invasion that they had prior info about.
    The amount of people involved was about approx 700,000 but I may be a bit over here.. Where you get millions from I don’t know unless you supply links.
    The justification that you speak of is that the Israelis, in the tremendous trauma of having being attacked and almost annihilated on the day the state lawfully came into existence, were not in a forgiving mood towards those Arabs who fled and viewed their return as a great danger to the infant state of Israel.
    Right after the 1948 war the Arab states evicted,without any compensation at all,800,000 Jews from all the Arab states. The descendents of these people are now Israeli citizens.
    Conversely the descendents of the ‘Arabs’ who left Israel are still denied citizenship and civil rights in the Arabs states that they are domiciled in at this point. Perhaps this where you get the millions from.
    —–Further questions will have to wait ’til to-night or better still when a related topic occurs.——-

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    Dec 13th 2015, 10:36 PM

    Whoever controls the Oil, controls the world…

    This is not about Islam, it’s about money and power, like every war…

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    Dec 13th 2015, 11:49 PM

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-25/meet-man-who-funds-isis-bilal-erdogan-son-turkeys-president
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29528482
    “”Our biggest problem was our allies,” Mr Biden told students at the Harvard Kennedy School.

    “The Turks… the Saudis, the Emirates, etc, what were they doing? They were so determined to take down (Syrian President Bashar al) Assad and essentially have a proxy Sunni-Shia war, what did they do? They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tonnes of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad.”

    These policies ended up helping militants linked to al-Qaeda and ultimately IS, he said.

    Mr Biden also claimed that Turkey admitted it had let too many foreign fighters cross its border into Syria. “

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    Dec 14th 2015, 2:12 AM

    The self-proclaimed Zionist Joe Biden!? FFS!

    I’ll never understand people quoting American politicians in order to strengthen their points.

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    Dec 15th 2015, 12:20 AM

    Because he spilled the beans…

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:37 PM

    Assad is buying oil as well. Crazy.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:48 PM

    He gets his stuff from Russia not Isis, whom he is at war with

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    Dec 13th 2015, 8:12 PM

    Assad buying “a great deal” of ISIS oil.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 9:31 PM

    A key word “Donations”!

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    Dec 13th 2015, 7:53 PM

    Its complex by all accounts. Each delivery doesn’t come accompanied by two boys with Kalashnikovs. There is seemingly legitimate companies refining. Transporting it unaware who is behind this company or that company. Iraq and Syria. Exporting via Jordan also. Even the distributors may not have a clue let alone the final buyer.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 9:49 PM

    yea, you are right.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 9:58 PM

    “Source: US Department of the Treasury, Bloomberg”

    lol, like they haven’t ever been proven to be continuously untrustworthy in the slightest!

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    Dec 14th 2015, 1:59 PM

    The photo of the IS guy handing out copies of the Quran deserves to be in a ‘funny caption’ competition.
    How about, “free Quran sir? ….it’s even signed by the author”
    Or else, van driver to IS fighter “Is that the illustrated version?”

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