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St Patrick's Institution in Dublin Julien Behal/PA Wire

"There's going to be riots" when St Patrick's inmates move to new prison

A senior prison officer has warned that rival gangs will battle for dominance when the young offenders are moved to an adult prison.

THERE WILL BE ‘riots’ when young criminal inmates are moved from St Patrick’s Institution to an adult prison in Dublin as rival factions battle for dominance, a senior prison officer has warned.

The inmates aged between 17 and 21 will be housed in Wheatfield prison in Dublin with senior members of gangs they are affiliated to which will lead to major tensions, the officer said.

He warned that mixing junior and senior members of gangs from places like Finglas, Crumlin and Limerick will cause chaos in an already overstretched prison system.

“This hasn’t been fully thought through,” he told TheJournal.ie. “All of the issues that already exist in Pat’s will be magnified ten times over when they [inmates] are put in with other gang members.

St Pat’s is the most violent prison in the country. Moving all the [inmates] will make for a hothouse – there’s no question. There will be riots in Wheatfield when they move in.

The officer, who works in St Patrick’s and who spoke on condition of anonymity, said all of the young offenders already belong to gangs in the medium-security prison. “They all have to prove themselves,” he said.

Children’s Ombudsman Emily Logan visited Wheatfield Prison on Friday to see where the 17-year-old inmates will be held amid concerns over whether the west Dublin prison has the space or the staff to deal with the extra prisoners.

Justice Minister Alan Shatter has indicated that the youngest offenders will be held in a separate unit to the rest of the adult prison population. However it is not yet clear how long the 17-year-old criminals will be held in the jail before being moved to a special detention unit in Oberstown which is supposed to open next year.

Problems have persisted at St Patrick’s Institution, despite attempts to change the culture at the facility. The head of the Irish Prison Service said that the safety and security of offenders cannot be guaranteed during the announcement during the week that St Patrick’s is to close down.

Read: “The culture has not changed” – St Patrick’s Institution finally gets closed down >

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    Mute The Viking
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    Jan 19th 2017, 10:59 PM

    Thats a mighty fine sculpture there boss.. How much you say that weighed again..

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:13 PM

    Its a bit they had left over from the needle in dublin!

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    Jan 19th 2017, 10:51 PM

    A ffs not another one of these so called art sh

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    Jan 19th 2017, 10:59 PM

    @rowan hill: A tree would be nicer?

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    Mute Stephen murphy
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    Jan 20th 2017, 9:24 AM

    @Alois Irlmaier: It would, how long would it last though?

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    Jan 21st 2017, 9:31 PM

    @Stephen murphy: You can but trees any size thes days? Still would end up cheaper…

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:09 PM

    No here is more proof that we are still wasting money on fluff. The money should have been spent on flood relief not backslapping. Unless you can push it over and row it next time it floods its pointless. This is in no way a slight on the artist just the waste of public money.

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    Mute Ted Logan
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    Jan 20th 2017, 9:42 AM

    But you’ll be able to use it measure how high the flood waters came up. Functionality and art together – beautiful.

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    Jan 20th 2017, 9:57 AM

    Class. Hadn’t thought of that.

    I would really love to know what the red thumb brigade are thinking. I obviously thank them for spending time red thumbing my comment but I have no idea why? Are you saying we should we be spending more money on these types of installations?

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    Jan 20th 2017, 12:38 PM

    @Bunny Johnson: No Bunny – Just that you should read the article. The funds were allocated for an art installation. Now by all means say you don’t like the art or thinks it’s a poor choice or whatever.

    But your suggestion that the funds shouldn’t have been spent on art when that is what the money was assigned for is daft.

    By your logic we’d never spend any money on the arts because of the health service, crime, homelessness or whatever.

    So yes – we should be spending money of art installations and making out cities & towns more attractive, interesting, cultural places. If you want an economic reason – it helps boost tourism.

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:16 PM

    Councils having the ability to spend other peoples money, a farse.

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    Mute Niall O Neill
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    Jan 20th 2017, 8:41 AM

    @ Johnnie Sexton: what’s a farse? A fat arse? A cross between arse and farce?

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    Mute Alois Irlmaier
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    Jan 19th 2017, 10:59 PM

    A lightening conductor…

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    Jan 20th 2017, 12:49 AM

    Cork Screw?

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    Jan 20th 2017, 2:52 AM

    Completely agree with all the comments here: we don’t need nice. We don’t need art. We should also force people to sell any straitjacket or picture that have I in their houses, they have no need for them. Reduce paint choices and building designs to 1 color and 1 design: far more efficient and the money saved could be spent on other things. We want to live in a grey faceless world. But we’re happy.

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    Jan 20th 2017, 8:39 AM

    @ Kieran Ryan: would you like to review the third sentence in your comment. I am really curious about what you intended to say.

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    Jan 20th 2017, 12:14 PM

    Lol, I can’t remember. I think it was probably pictures or artwork. Who knows. Am attempt at sarcasm foiled by spellchecker. Oh, the life of a commentator.

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:11 PM

    21st century standing stones. Can’t see em lasting as long though.

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    Jan 19th 2017, 10:52 PM

    More proof yet again that there’s nowhere near enough time, money or effort being spent to tackle homelessness. It’s an absolute scandal how stupid we are as a nation

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    Jan 20th 2017, 12:58 AM

    If they were really looking to fill a hole with something, tarmac into some potholes would have been better.

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    Jan 20th 2017, 5:05 AM

    The Phallus in Fermoy…

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    Jan 20th 2017, 12:06 PM

    The dick in the sticks?

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    Jan 20th 2017, 12:09 PM

    The d.ck / pr.ck in the sticks?

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:04 PM

    How much did it cost ?

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:39 PM

    No idea but it probabaly had a couple of extra zeroes tacked onto the end of its original price.

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:37 PM

    Notions again.

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    Jan 19th 2017, 10:59 PM

    The pole on the other hole

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:45 PM

    Unbelievable waste of money

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    Jan 20th 2017, 1:07 AM

    Okay let’s just get something straight as part of any public works over a certain budget either 0.5% or a set fee of total spend (I’m not sure of the maximum) is used for art displays that’s what all the art works are on the side of the motorways eg.the ball at nass , so it’s not like they set out to waste money ,it’s some brainchild of the 80s that we should waste money well into the future , I actually don’t mind these things in towns and cities but the ones on the motorways are a pure waste

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:47 PM

    Unbelievable waste of money ffs

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:37 PM

    Son of Dublin junkie needle

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:51 PM

    First Cork man in space soon ? Sure aren’t they better than everyone

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    Jan 20th 2017, 9:25 AM

    @Finn Bowe: We have the potholes and craters, to mimic a moon landing and suitable ground for the Mars rover to operate in.

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    Jan 20th 2017, 1:33 AM

    Junkies of the world , Ireland salutes you. Ffs, another joke. Are statues out of fashion..

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:59 PM

    How long will it last? How much?

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    Jan 20th 2017, 12:19 AM

    Houston we have a problem

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    Jan 20th 2017, 1:01 AM

    We’ll confuse the jackeens,..stairway to heaven..but without the stairs..

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    Jan 21st 2017, 2:53 PM

    The Scud in the Mud

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    Jan 20th 2017, 7:46 AM

    Looks like the “Skylon” from the Festival of Britain!

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:43 PM

    Unbelievable waste of money

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    Jan 19th 2017, 11:37 PM

    Unbelievable waste of money ffs

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