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Student nurses on placement WILL be paid for duration of Covid-19 crisis

Student nurses and midwives will be offered a contract as a healthcare assistant.

HEALTH MINISTER SIMON Harris has said that student nurses and midwives completing placements during the Covid-19 outbreak will be paid.

Hundreds of student nurses across the country are set to begin their unpaid work placements this month and some have already started.

Although this is a common practice – doing unpaid work to earn enough hours to become fully qualified – the public health crisis affecting the country led to calls for this to be changed.

Harris has now confirmed that all student nurses and midwives will be offered a contract as a healthcare assistant (HCA) and be paid accordingly. HCAs are paid €28,000 a year.

Students will complete their placement in a HCA role and continue to complete the course.

The Department of Health says there are about 4,000 student nurses.

“We need all hands on deck through this challenging period,” Harris said this afternoon. 

This is an offer and not an obligation. But I know so many of our student nurses want to play their role as we navigate our way through these difficult times. Our healthcare professionals have shown immense leadership and I will do everything I can to support them.

Today’s announcement and comes following pressure from groups such as the Irish Nurses & Midwives Organisation (INMO).

The INMO had argued that students taking up roles should be paid and protected as employees, if that is the role they are undertaking. 

Student nurses will be asked to apply online through the HSE’s On Call initiative.

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    Mute Jamie McCormack
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    Jul 27th 2013, 5:34 PM

    Phew, always feel guilt.. Not a sociopath.. Nice 1

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    Mute Little Jim
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    Jul 27th 2013, 7:31 PM

    Isn’t guilt a feeling just like hate is.
    How can hate be felt so?
    I’m confused, I’m going out to find a puppy to scowl at.

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    Mute Maureen Walshe
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    Jul 28th 2013, 1:12 PM

    I agree. she “hated” her dad, but cant “love”? I call shenanigans! :p

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    Mute Shanti Om
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    Jul 28th 2013, 4:15 PM

    With a sociopath hate isn’t actually the same emotion as what we consider hate.
    For a sociopath relationships are about what they can take from it. It’s like they’re extremely selfish. They’re good at feigning emotions, because they have watched and learned from others throughout their whole lives – but sometimes their approach will be a little off kilter because they lack the depth of understanding because they do not feel them properly – their brains do not function in the same way.

    So for the author of the book, her hating her father could simply be that she didn’t enjoy the way he treated her – there isn’t enough in the article to say why. But she may term something quite minor as hate, the same way she would term something major – such as abuse in the same way.

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    Mute Rachel O' Meara
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    Jul 27th 2013, 6:21 PM

    There’s a difference between being a b*tch and a psychopath, I should know as I’ve had one in my life, they have to be the centre of attention at all cost even by telling wildly outlandish lies. They are also bullies and your only as useful to them as an audience and as someone to massage their egos! There is only one way to deal with them and that’s cut them out of your life altogether, it might be drastic but the more they are around the more damage they cause!

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    Jul 27th 2013, 7:22 PM

    I had the unfortunate experience of having one for a boss, a real nasty piece of work, he really got a kick out of seeing people reduced to tears by his control & he really exerted his power over his subirdinate

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    Jul 27th 2013, 7:36 PM

    Subordinates. Its not nice to see grown adults reduced to tears & in fear from these types of bullies, & nice as pie to his superiors who thought the sun shined out of his arse. The work environment was unbearable & toxic, what with his bullying & then the little lick arses running after him all the time. He tried to move in on me, I told him to go f*uck himself, of course that gave him the ammo he needed to wield his mighty authority over me which resulted in me being sacked, which was fine with me.

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    Mute seamus mcdermott
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    Jul 27th 2013, 7:43 PM

    Ah, a sadist as well. Push him down a flight of stairs and see if he reacts emotionally (Question #4). If he does, he’s just a sadist. If he doesn’t, then he’s probably a sociopath.

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    Mute Fergal Kelly
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    Jul 28th 2013, 9:36 AM

    ….. And you should run.

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    Mute JakkiB
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    Jul 27th 2013, 5:57 PM

    The good ole Catholic guilt takes care of that

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    Mute seamus mcdermott
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    Jul 27th 2013, 7:44 PM

    The people who made you feel guilty are sociopaths. :-)

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    Mute Dylan_Phone
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    Jul 27th 2013, 11:33 PM

    Guilt. The most powerful emotion in this country just piping the joint seconds of low self worth and shame. Thanks Church and colonial regime.

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    Mute Phil Curley
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    Jul 27th 2013, 5:50 PM

    9/10 ain’t bad

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    Mute Keith Dickinson
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    Jul 27th 2013, 7:55 PM

    Think of a politician. Then read the questions again. You’ll be surprised.

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    Mute Killian Lynch
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    Jul 27th 2013, 8:04 PM

    Isn’t it true that a higher proportion of politicians and businessmen are sociopaths/psychopaths? Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, as it means they can focus on the bigger picture rather than basing their policies on every sob story they hear.

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    Mute Keith Dickinson
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    Jul 27th 2013, 8:14 PM

    Strange Killian but you might be right. I have worked for some ‘A’ types and I have to say they are very effective at their work. However their failings are often cataclysmic.

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    Mute Killian Lynch
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    Jul 27th 2013, 8:43 PM

    Absolutely, they can of course be very aggressive and manipulating but, forgive the cheesiness, they can work on the side of the angels.

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    Jul 27th 2013, 9:46 PM

    Actually killian you’re both right and wrong. A very high percentage of directors and higher managerial staff are what would describe to be sociopaths or psychopaths. However they are not goo for company business as they are not pragmatic and able to see through the bull etc but are self serving and self driven. They aim to achieve their own personal goals and take undue risks with the business and staff relations.

    Many American company’s have observed this and are attempting to weed out the existing sociopathic personality types amongst a their executive staff and more companies are employing psychologists in interviewing managerial staff not to weed out the weak but to identify and block the sociopaths.

    A lot of former politicians and high stake businessmen/women who we know of being involved in crazy deals to further their own personal positions would display classic sociopathic traits including a complete lack of remorse or as we call it ‘a neck like a jockeys bollocks’

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    Jul 27th 2013, 9:55 PM

    Very interesting ieoinu. My comments were just based on stuff I have heard but I don’t really know that much about it so I bow to your superior knowledge.

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    Jul 27th 2013, 10:24 PM

    ieoinu. Your point is well made. And in general I agree. However it is not entirely correct that US companies are seeking to weed these people out. At least not all of them. Certain professions such as Law, Security, politics, are very much objective driven. Often an A type is ideal at least in the short term. In my experience they tend to be high achieving for at least 2 to 3 years before succumbing to the accumulation of their negative behaviour. But by that time they have served their purpose and are quietly ‘removed’. Still, I think its a bad business philosophy. Interesting all the same.

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    Jul 27th 2013, 11:01 PM

    I agree, it very interesting as I think we can all identify someone that fits the criteria. Is it nature or nurture though? Are you born with a lack of empathy and self serving motivation or is it something you can acquire from gaining reward for surpassing your peers.

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    Jul 27th 2013, 11:36 PM

    Ieoniu I think it might be a bit of both, a narcissistic parent, and life experiences from a very early age determine whether an individual is going to a psychopath, studies have shown that if you catch it early enough you may be able to change a child’s psychopathic behavior! The reason I say both is because some psychopaths are born into perfectly loving homes but still turn out this way and others learn from narcissistic or psychopathic parents themselves, there is usually a split in the parental relationship from a young age in the later example and some form of abuse, those kids also seem to be sexually active from a very early age and have ferocious tempers.

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    Jul 28th 2013, 2:32 PM

    So thats 99.9% of Irish politicans then??

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    Jul 28th 2013, 4:20 PM

    Sounds like the board of Anglo (I know, I am really sorry for bringing it up on this thread) but the taking huge risks that are self serving, no foresight, no compassion for the hardship inflicted upon others.. Following the release of the tapes it may be a safe presumption..

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    Jul 27th 2013, 6:00 PM

    “criminally vindictive types whose only motivation is to take advantage of weaker people”

    That accounts for 90% of the population.

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    Mute Sandra Harper-Smith
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    Jul 27th 2013, 10:33 PM

    Sounds more like our government.

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    Mute Shanti Om
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    Jul 28th 2013, 4:16 PM

    Well, one thing sociopaths and psychopaths crave is power. Leadership roles are what they think they are here for, so it’s not unusual to have sociopaths run for office..
    How good the population are at spotting them determines whether or not they get elected..

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    Jul 28th 2013, 9:08 AM

    sounds just like my da, bloody knew something wasn’t right with him all these years

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    Jul 28th 2013, 7:42 AM

    My ex through and through.freaked,eek!

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    Jul 27th 2013, 6:17 PM

    what a bunch of silly questions

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    Jul 27th 2013, 10:12 PM

    Im a sociopath. What next. Do I get a prize?

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    Jul 28th 2013, 12:12 AM

    Jesus, I worked for a few of these freeks, wish I’d known and I’d have blown their fking heads off !

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    Mute Colin Treacy
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    Jul 27th 2013, 9:00 PM

    What about just asking “are you a sociopath”?

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    Mute Conor McKenna
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    Jul 28th 2013, 10:24 AM

    These are also ten questions which determine whether you are a teenager or not.

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    Mute Shanti Om
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    Jul 28th 2013, 4:22 PM

    This is precisely why sociopathic personality disorder, antisocial behaviour disorder and psychopathy are not diagnosed until after 18, sometimes not until the 20s.
    The only reason this would be ignored is if the child or teen seems to derive pleasure from harming animals or other people.

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    Jul 28th 2013, 4:30 PM

    Three outa ten ain’t bad!

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