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South Dublin residents complain about concert-goers 'urinating at will all over the place'

A number of objections to alcohol sales at Dublin summer concerts were rejected.

A JUDGE HAS rejected a bid by locals to ban the sale of alcohol at the Stone Roses and Kodaline concerts as well as the Longitude music festival in Dublin’s Marlay Park.

Irish rockers Kodaline are set to play Marlay Park in Rathfarnham on 8 July while veteran Manchester indie legends the Stone Roses will take to the stage in front of 40,000 fans on the following day.

The three-day Longitude Festival featuring dozens of acts will also take place at Marlay Park from 15-17 July with all the shows being put on by promoters MCD.

Events Bars & Catering (Facilities MGT Ireland) Ltd applied to Dublin District Court for an occasional licence to serve alcohol at the events however they faced an objection by 25 concerned Rathfarnham residents, some fearing a repeat of the trouble that broke out during concerts in Phoenix Park in 2012.

The locals went to court yesterday to complain about under-age drinking, inebriated concert goes urinating in public places, anti-social behaviour and not being able to get access to their homes and a “Berlin type wall” in a “lock-down” of the south Dublin suburb during the shows.

However, Judge Michael Coghlan denied their objection. He said there was a need for venues in many areas and he told one resident he must have known the concerts would not be a “teetotaller convention”.

Garda Sergeant Michael Phelan is co-ordinating the policing of the events and told the court lessons have been learned from any problems previously experienced at the Marlay Parks concerts.

He said there would be 190 gardai on duty for the July 8 and 9 concerts inside and outside the venue. There will be 180 gardai on duty for the Longitude Festival, he said.

He explained that Dublin Bus will have detours so concert-goers travelling to the shows will be left off at Marlay Park in a garda-controlled zone. Over the years gardai have increased the number of officers on duty during concerts at the park, he also said.

Seven injured in concert stabbings The concert site at Phoenix Park after a 2012 Swedish House Mafia gig. PA Archive / Press Association Images PA Archive / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

He told counsel for the catering firm Dorothy Collins BL (instructed by solicitor Ursula Courtney) that there would be assistance from private security guards and stewards from a local GAA club which will also earn money from the gigs.

Entrances to housing estates in the area would be sealed off to prevent concert goers going into the residential areas around Marlay Park. Parking would be provided inside the venue and concert goers would not be let park in nearby estates.

He said that during an event last year there were 300 fake ID cards seized from young people. He also said they will have age checks at the entrance and there would test purchases of alcohol taking place at the event. He said the number of arrests would be no more than that in a busy part of Dublin city-centre.

He said the concerts are due to finish up at around 10pm and gardai will remain the area until midnight or 12.30am. They would also be liaising with licensed premises in the area about alcohol sales.

Collins also pointed that emergency vehicles would have access the residential estates in the area if needed.

5/7/2012 The Stone Roses Rock Concerts The judged allowed a temporary alcohol sales licence for the summer concerts. Leon Farrell / Photocall Ireland Leon Farrell / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

Judge Coghlan said that there had to be evidence of specific criminal damage incidents during the previous events there or that they were not adequately policed in the past.

“I was interested to hear if there was a prevalence of public order breaches, anti-social behaviour or violent incidents and the sergeant suggests that on the Richter scale things it was well down,” he said.

He also said there was no evidence of mayhem or widespread lawlessness at previous concerts in the park.

The objectors provided the court with a list of complaints and five Rathfarnham residents gave evidence. Sean Connolly, from Marlay Grange, said he was concerned that there was not sufficient ID checking and he thought there was under-age drinking.

Niall O’Reilly from Broadford said the main issue he had was that on each date approximately 40,000 people will arrive in an area where the local population was almost 15,000.

He said it made it difficult to get to shops or go anywhere and led to traffic problems.

Michael Donnellan from the Woodpark Estate described the garda measures as “Alice in Wonderland” and that at previous concerts he witnessed drunk people coming out and saw “them urinate at will all over the place”.

He also suspected people were bringing in alcohol in soft drink bottles.

Tony Redmond from Marlay Drive said there was not enough access in the event on an emergency and a couple of years ago there was a “Berlin type wall put up”.

He said after one concert he caught someone trying to steal his car. He said he was also concerned about wildlife and dismissed a environmental impact report by the promoters.

Una Connaughton said that during previous concerts she thought gardai were overwhelmed and the crowds could delay the arrival of an emergency vehicle which could cause loss of life.

Last year she had been unable to drive her car through the crowd to get to her road and had to abandon, she said.

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:39 AM

    People Piss on the Northside and Urinate on the Southside

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 12:27 PM

    very good

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 4:51 PM

    Nice one

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    Mute NO 2 FF/FG/LAB
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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:00 AM

    Every year they moan, every year nothing happens, every year concert goes increase local business…

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:08 AM

    Ah now their taking the p!ss

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:23 AM

    Taking a piss OMG, I wonder when they walk their poodles do their dogs have to take a leak? Probably not! Why not plant a refugee site in the middle of Foxrock, that will give them something to moan about. As 99% of the PC brigade reside on the Southside, practice what you preach and help out the poor refugees.

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 11:23 AM

    Foxrock is nowhere near Marlay Park.

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    Mute MackPilon
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    Jun 2nd 2016, 4:38 PM

    How long by unicycle?

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 11:00 AM

    Used to live there, every Saturday and Sunday entrance blocked by idiots out walking in the park or whatever, part of the joys of living near such an amenity just as at Croker. Let the young folk enjoy those concerts and stop moaning or move up to the top of the 3 Rock and become off the grid spoon whittlers FFS. Just think of sitting in yer yard listening to the music for free

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:59 AM

    Irish “rockers” Kodalin. No, they are not rockers! They are indie, Thin Lizzy, Rory Gallagher, Gary Moore, now they were Irish Rockers!

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:04 AM

    If you ask me they are taking the piss

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:17 AM

    Got their before me. Damn stubby fingers!

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:21 AM

    Urinating at will all over the place, who dream’s up these headlines, most of us can urinate at will, we just use the toilet.

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    Mute Carl Nolan
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    Jun 2nd 2016, 1:35 PM

    In fairness there’s probably f**k-all public toilets put out. Ireland’s approach to public toilets tends to be “find a pub”

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    Mute Michael Kavanagh
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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:39 AM

    Yes indeed. We have a Northside for that sort of carry – on!

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    Mute GQ
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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:04 AM

    Always somebody to moan about something in this country, now if it was for a Gareth Brooks concert I would be in favor of it been cancelled

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 3:16 PM

    It’s not Gareth, it’s Garreth.

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    Jun 3rd 2016, 9:37 AM

    It’s actually Garth Del

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:00 AM

    If you got to go, you got to go.

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    Mute Dermot Quinn
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    Jun 2nd 2016, 11:21 AM

    Same old whingers with the same old whinge. Give it a rest for God sake.

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    Mute Niamh Connolly
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    Jun 2nd 2016, 9:44 PM

    You live how close to the concerts?

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 11:32 AM

    Rock music should be banned from populated areas.
    Concerts should be held in soundproofed industrial units on the outskirts of civilisation.

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 12:13 PM

    Electric fences. That’ll sort the problem out.

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    Mute MackPilon
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    Jun 2nd 2016, 12:52 PM

    Especially if they piss on them

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 12:08 PM

    “rockers kodaline”… yeah… so rock n roll man

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 1:53 PM

    Fair play to the judge.

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 1:50 PM

    Maybe if they had better toilet facilities at gigs than the usual portaloos from hell with now air freshening installed

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 10:44 AM

    Poor Will, why don’t they piss on someone else for a change.

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 1:50 PM

    Maybe if they had better toilet facilities at gigs than the usual portaloos from hell with now air freshening installed

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    Mute Niamh Connolly
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    Jun 2nd 2016, 9:47 PM

    Folks, Marlay Park is not a suitable concert/festival venue. Simple as.

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 11:56 PM

    “Urinating at will all over the place.”. What does Will have to say about that?

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    Jun 3rd 2016, 1:45 PM

    On the 12th Will will be urinating on chapels lol.

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    Jun 3rd 2016, 4:47 AM

    If they are not shooting at Will, they are pissing at Will….poor guy

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 7:34 PM

    Fuddy duddy’s. Its for one weekend ffs.

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 9:45 PM

    It’s a 2 month war zone

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    Jun 4th 2016, 1:26 AM

    It’s usually 5-7 gigs in one month including the 3 days of longitude. “Two month war zone”. That’s a ridiculous statement.

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    Jun 3rd 2016, 1:47 PM

    In 5 weeks after this concert many girls will be wondering what happened to their period lol.

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 9:18 PM

    Residents got of fireworks display, now want get rid of concerts at marley Park,

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    Jun 2nd 2016, 12:00 PM

    Widdle me this Widdle me that Who’s afraid of the Big Bad Bat?

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    Jun 4th 2016, 1:18 AM

    If Portoloos were provided not only inside the walls of marley park but on the main road outside, this wouldn’t be an issue. The reality is people will be drinking before the gigs and drink outside before going in. This is how it’s always been and it’s always been tolerated by the guards so it would be more productive to just provide them and keep the area clean

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    Jun 3rd 2016, 1:44 PM

    Urine, used condoms and faeces, a few STI’s and traumatised pets. Traumatised pets from seeing the jugheads at it rather than from anything else lol.
    And a few knifing on the side, this generation are lobeheads with a K.

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    Jun 5th 2016, 9:32 PM

    A couple of permanent festival sites in the country would suit all. Permanent loos and showers, mini huts, barrack style as part if ticket prices, bins, and food halls too plus indoor stages for rain (often).
    Jobs for locals for a change.
    Think Glastonbury. Car parking. No noise pollution and central for all in the country
    In use for many conferences, adventure holidays for kids, Many uses.
    Rural shows of produce. Agricultural shows. Etc.
    Opportunities to showcase. Very useful.
    Sports facilities, just basic. Track events, tennis courts. Football pitch.
    Kids play area, safe and enclosed in case…

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