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Taoiseach says that many Irish people in WWI and WWII.

Taoiseach wears 'shamrock poppy' at British-Irish summit, says it's right to honour those who died

Taoiseach says wearing a poppy is not as controversial as some might suggest.

TAOISEACH MICHEÁL MARTIN sported a ‘shamrock poppy’ lapel pin at the British-Irish Council summit in Blackpool today – marking Remembrance Day, which takes place on 11 November every year.

It is understood the two minutes silence for Armistice Day was marked by the leaders, including the Taoiseach, in the meeting at 11am this morning. 

Micheál Martin is in Blackpool for the British-Irish Council summit, where today he met with Minister for Intergovernmental Relations Michael Gove and First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon.

Last night, the Taoiseach met with UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak

Speaking to reporters, he said he does not believe that wearing a poppy is as “controversial as some people suggest”. 

“I think people understand the need to remember those that lost their lives in war in the past and we in Ireland particularly, coming out of the Good Friday Agreement, I think we entered into a new mature reflection on all of these issues.

“Many Irish died in both of the major wars. I think it is appropriate particularly at the British-Irish Council summit, which reflects the spirit of the Good Friday Agreement, which is an institution of the Good Friday Agreement, that we would pay due honour to those that lost their lives in WWI and WWII and other conflicts.

“I have no difficulty in that at all. I think the vast, vast majority of Irish people are of one mind on that,” he said. 

Today marks the anniversary of the day World War One ended, on 11 November in 1918.

Poppies are worn to commemorate the dead of the war as they are the flowers that grew on the Western Front battlefields of France and Belgium in the wake of the fighting.

In terms of symbolism, the occasion is sometimes a complicated one for members of Irish political parties which have their roots in the time of the 1916 Rising and the War of Independence.

Tánaiste Leo Varadkar wore a poppy in the Dáil in 2017 when he was Taoiseach, with the news reported around the world by news outlets such as BBC at the time.

About 210,000 Irish men and women served in the British forces during World War One, and around 35,000 died. Home Rule leader John Redmond backed the involvement of Irish soldiers, arguing that it was necessary to support “the freedom of small nations”.

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    Mute Tricia G ☘️
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    Nov 11th 2022, 2:43 PM

    Had it remained a symbol of the World Wars then I don’t believe it would be as controversial.

    But, it commemorates ALL British soldiers, in all conflicts including NI, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Not to mention its gone the way of the US Flag pin. If you’re not seen to be wearing one, you’re somehow “less loyal”. It’s been co-opted by nationalism as a method to mark out those as “different” and not “the right kind of person”.

    There is a whiff of Fascism off how people in the public eye are forced to mark their allegiance.

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    Mute Patrick Robinson
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:05 PM

    @Tricia G ☘️: you do realise that the poppy is originally America. Its worn by many countries on Armistice day not just the British.

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    Mute Emmett Keane
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:06 PM

    @Tricia G ☘️:
    Says yer wan with the Shamrock emoji.

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    Mute Declan Carr
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:31 PM

    @Patrick Robinson: Poppies have long been used as a symbol of sleep, peace, and death: Sleep because the opium extracted from them is a sedative, and death because of the common blood-red colour of the red poppy in particular. In Greek and Roman myths, poppies were used as offerings to the dead. It is known as flower of death by the Egyptian they put the poppy in with the dead.

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    Mute Darren Lynch
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:35 PM

    @Patrick Robinson: and the money raised this side of the atlantic goes towards retired and serving British military personnel. No thanks!

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    Mute Jason Walsh
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:25 PM

    @Tricia G ☘️: incorrect it commemorates all who died serving in the British forces, I hope you know that a lot of Irish folk signed up to serve in the British forces as there was no Irish army fighting in the war.

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    Mute Jim O'Sullivan
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:38 PM

    @Tricia G ☘️: This is what Martin is reduced to, stunts.

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    Mute Gerry Campbell
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:52 PM

    @Tricia G ☘️: Yes it has been Hijacked,but it is in comemoration of the fallen on all sides in WW1. Humans ffs,they cant even leave a flower alone.

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    Mute Gerry Campbell
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:54 PM

    @Jason Walsh: All sides,Jason,all sides who lost lives,not just the British.

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    Mute Jim Smith
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    Nov 11th 2022, 5:09 PM

    @Jim O’Sullivan: He is out of his office in a few weeks. He is weak on all fronts and in every aspect but wants to appear strong. Hence the grandiosity and stunts.

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    Mute B Collins
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    Nov 11th 2022, 5:17 PM

    @Tricia G ☘️: I don’t know that I agree with that depiction. It’s worn in Canada too to commemorate Canadians and Indigenous Peoples who served.

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    Mute Dave Goodman
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    Nov 11th 2022, 7:17 PM

    @Darren Lynch: All funds raised in Ireland remain in Ireland.

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    Mute Darren Lynch
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    Nov 11th 2022, 8:25 PM

    @Dave Goodman: genuine question. I know its collected by the British legion. Does it go to serving members of the irish army or those that fight/fought for Britain?

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    Mute Dave Goodman
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    Nov 11th 2022, 10:01 PM

    @Darren Lynch: from their website: The Royal British Legion is working hard to support the most vulnerable in our society, be it older veterans that we care for, those who suffer from social isolation, or those who are simply overwhelmed by the challenges associated with the cost-of-living crisis.

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    Mute Rob
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:08 PM

    Why not a Lily at Easter for those who died for Irish freedom?

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    Mute An t-Iascaire Gaelach
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:25 PM

    @Rob: That would require him to have some admirable principles instead of repulsive ones Rob!

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    Mute Darren Lynch
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:36 PM

    @Rob: no doubt because SF wear them

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    Mute Mike Finnegan
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:02 PM

    @Rob: do you recommend the pinnies or the stickies?

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    Mute Declan Carr
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:02 PM

    Why shamrock and not the lily? Given that the lily is to remember our Patriot Dead and not the poppy. Be proud to remember our dead.

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    Mute Nora McElhinney
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    Nov 12th 2022, 3:05 PM

    @Declan Carr: an auld shoneens what that fop is……

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    Mute Kevin Burke
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:02 PM

    “The Republican Party” lol

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    Mute John Mcmahon
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:04 PM

    The word Quisling springs to mind

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    Mute Eire
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:50 PM

    He didn’t wear it in my name that’s for sure !!!!

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    Mute An t-Iascaire Gaelach
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:22 PM

    Not surprised, a Sheónín and a Gombín would do this no problem. Although I’d be more disgusted if he wore our Easter Lily, it commemorates the best of Ireland, our martyrs, and he as an anti Irish Gombín, would sully it.

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    Mute Paul Brierley
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:05 PM

    Quisling!

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    Mute Celtic Eagle
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    Nov 11th 2022, 2:49 PM

    That’s not surprising.

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    Mute Des Hanrahan
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:35 PM

    The Journal is now censoring even fairly mild criticism of MM.

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    Mute Mark Sheehan
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:40 PM

    @Des Hanrahan: the journal is a joke, 50% of stories posted, comments closed.

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    Mute John Quinn
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    Nov 11th 2022, 6:24 PM

    The British Legion sells the poppy to remember the glorious fallen. Micheal should remember who executed the 1916 leaders….

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    Mute Michael Nolan
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:13 PM

    Lot of good Irishmen and woman went off under the guide that it would bring Ireland closer to a United Ireland…mehole ón the other hand can xxxx xxx.

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    Mute Spud Geshletter
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    Nov 12th 2022, 8:03 AM

    @Michael Nolan: lots of irish picked off the streets and dropped in France

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    Mute Tommy Mc Quaid
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    Nov 11th 2022, 2:56 PM

    Can’t recall him wearing a Fuchsia.

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    Mute Stephen Doyle
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    Nov 11th 2022, 7:07 PM

    Just when you thought he couldn’t get any worse!

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    Mute John Graham
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    Nov 11th 2022, 7:20 PM

    An embarrassing representation of people

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    Mute john maher
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    Nov 11th 2022, 7:18 PM

    Mehole the lickarse

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    Mute Yo Dude
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    Nov 11th 2022, 3:47 PM

    Lest we forget.

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    Mute M Bowe
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:50 PM

    @Yo Dude: we don’t. Through Bloody Sunday Dublin 21 Nov 1920 through Ballymurphy and Bloody Sunday Derry 30th Jan 1972 to the signing of GFA. British forces have left very little on this island which commands any respect.

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    Mute Daniel Roche
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    Nov 11th 2022, 4:53 PM

    @Yo Dude: Ya never forget 800+ years of murder,rape, destruction, genocide and slavery and that’s just what they done in Ireland,will we remember what they done in India,never forget.

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    Mute Jim Smith
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    Nov 11th 2022, 5:16 PM

    @Daniel Roche: Who is ‘they’ in your head? Any possible perpetrator of war crimes in Ireland pre 1922 is long and dead. It’s that thinking that makes some rare breed of people think that it’s okay to bomb street full of ‘them’ in Manchester. Granted, you are probably a 15 year old but you should have grown out of this phase by now.

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    Mute Daniel Roche
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    Nov 11th 2022, 6:41 PM

    @Jim Smith: What are you on about,time to put the pint down.

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    Mute Peter Murphy
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    Nov 11th 2022, 6:44 PM

    @Yo Dude: to pay all of taxes to the queen

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    Mute David Mc Cabe
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    Nov 11th 2022, 6:48 PM

    @Jim Smith: you make it sound as though they have changed? All in the past, there not like that now.

    Wilful killing
    Torture
    Inhuman/cruel treatment
    Outrages upon personal dignity
    Rape and/or other forms of sexual violence
    (Source : UK war crimes in Iraq: The ICC Prosecutor’s report)

    By the UK Armed forces in Iraq only a couple of years ago in an War based on a complete fabricated lie.

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    Mute Eire
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    Nov 11th 2022, 7:35 PM

    @Yo Dude: Yhea we got your message & we all fuggedaboutit

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    Mute John Farrell
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    Nov 11th 2022, 7:34 PM

    Clown

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    Mute Paul Gannon
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    Nov 12th 2022, 7:40 AM

    Cowering to his British overlords grow a set of balls and be a proud Irish Republican

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    Mute Joe Bridgeman
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    Nov 12th 2022, 5:11 AM

    Do you really care? Really? Your life must be exceptionally dull.

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    Nov 13th 2022, 1:54 AM

    Seems a bit sycophantic.

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