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When they came for Telly Bingo, I did not speak out because I did not play Telly Bingo.
But now they have come for Eastenders and I must fight.
6 May 2016
1:44PM
Brendan Howlin is talking about the last government’s place in history. Which feels like something we could have spoken about around, I don’t know, ten weeks ago?
6 May 2016
1:38PM
Six TDs have asked to make statements, which seems to serve the purpose of both allowing them to have a go at various political enemies and buying Fine Gael time to negotiate.
6 May 2016
1:37PM
Some of you have asked for the maths of the vote.
Here goes:
Fianna Fáil’s 44 TDs are abstaining, leaving 114 deputies
Kenny has his own 50 TDs plus Michael Lowry and Katherine Zappone
That leaves him six shy of the 58 needed
Six is the same number in the Independent Alliance
However, if the Green Party abstain rather than vote against, the maths could change, leaving Kenny needing 57 votes
Seamus Healy takes the floor as independents get speaking time. The ones which will be the kingmakers, the Independent Alliance, are nowhere to be seen.
6 May 2016
1:24PM
Eamon Ryan is speaking now and says the Greens won’t support the government.
After him, there’s time for the independents. But many of them aren’t in the chamber.
Brinksmanship? Genuine disagreement? A Taoiseach? A new government?
Right now: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
6 May 2016
1:19PM
Roisín Shortall of the Social Democrats says that new government must have policies at its heart that are equality and poverty-proofed.
6 May 2016
1:16PM
Speeches are still ongoing, but the holdout independents are still across the courtyard in Government Buildings.
At a certain point you’re forced to ask, why did Fine Gael call this vote before they had the numbers to win?
Burton says the issue is not personal and that Labour will support the government when it feels they are right.
But, she says, the new coalition threatens to “fritter away” the progress of the last five years.
6 May 2016
12:49PM
Burton notes that universal free GP care has disappeared from the government formation document. She says that the free GP care for children must now be questioned.
She adds that the Eighth Amendment issue has now been “kicked to touch”.
Burton says that Fianna Fáil will “pick their time as always” and can “keep their foot on the throat of the Taoiseach”.
6 May 2016
12:42PM
Labour leader Joan Burton is on her feet, she says that the deal is a “coalition of convenience” and just because it took a long time, doesn’t make it a good deal.
As my colleague Willie Penrose says, a long churning doesn’t make good butter.
6 May 2016
12:41PM
Word from Christina Finn who’s in Leinster House:
The Independent Alliance are still over in Government Buildings with Michael Noonan and Simon Coveney.
“It’s not looking good – but nobody knows what is going to happen.”
However, the vote could come after 1pm, so there’s still time.
Michéal Martin has a swipe at Sinn Féin, as the speeches become a little bit Father Ted getting the Golden Cleric.
6 May 2016
12:29PM
The camera just flashed to Enda Kenny and Richard Bruton. They did not look like men who were sure they were about how things were going.
6 May 2016
12:26PM
Martin says the “confidence and supply” approach means the majority of the Dáil will be responsible for passing legislation.
6 May 2016
12:24PM
Martin gets some digs in as he says those who “lecture Fianna Fáil about supporting a Fine Gael minority government” voted against “the only way to stop this”.
This is quite odd. Fine Gael can’t hold a vote because they’re not sure they’ll win, so they’re basically stalling until the Independent Alliance decides how to vote.
6 May 2016
12:17PM
Harris says the government will look to “make things a little easier” for citizens.
6 May 2016
12:15PM
A bit of confusion here as Ceann Comhairle Sean Ó Fearghaille asks Enda Kenny to speak, prematurely as it turns out.
Simon Harris gets to his feet to say he hopes to see a “partnership government”.
The Dáil is now taking nominations for the office of Taoiseach.
Noel Rock is on his feet to nominate Enda Kenny for the fourth time. He begins by saying “fourth time’s the charm”.
Rock pays tribute to the Fianna Fáil and independent TDs who have “worked for a compromise” adding that it’s “not about having power, it’s about using it well”.
The scene from the Dáil right now. Enda Kenny and the Fine Gael front bench are notable by their absence.
6 May 2016
12:04PM
Mattie McGrath says he and Paschal Donohoe had a “stand-up row” yesterday.
Yesterday the problem arose where we were looking for the draft document, we were to have it at 10, we didn’t get it till half two and we were told we’d to have it done by half four, I was incensed by that, and I didn’t cooperate and keep the timeline.
“It would be unfair of us to assess and read through 159 pages in an hour and a half.”
He says the mood was “very cross”
I had a stand-up row with Pascal Donohoe in the Government Buildings. The others, I know the Independent Alliance had to. It’s just total disdain. They’re just back to their same antics that people rejected them for. If they are going to carry on that way, it would get people thinking thoughts about being in any cabinet with them… because if that’s the attitude.
6 May 2016
12:02PM
Reports from Leinster House are mixed. Some people say that the Independent Alliance and Enda Kenny are at odds, but others say that they’re voting as a unit and have ironed out all five issues.
Remember the last time Enda was voted Taoiseach, back in 2011?
We hadn’t even discovered Snapchat or quinoa as a nation. So young, so young.
6 May 2016
11:38AM
Simon Harris told reporters at Leinster House that the programme for government is “exciting”.
We’ve put together what I think is a really exciting programme for government that will do everything it can to tackle the challenge the that is facing the Irish people.
It is still our expectation that the vote for Taoiseach will take place today, that a government will be formed today, and that we can bring this very long process to an end.
People want us to get on with the job of governing.
6 May 2016
11:34AM
After the vote for Taoiseach, assuming it’s successful, attention turns to the shape of the cabinet.
Sources tell us that this could be part of it:
Denis Naughten – Minister for Rural Affairs
Frances Fitzgerald – Tánaiste and Minister for Justice
Leo Varadkar – Minister for Health
Regina Doherty – Minister for Education
Simon Harris – Minister for Social Protection
Finian McGrath and Katherine Zappone – Super Junior Ministers
6 May 2016
11:29AM
Simon Coveney tells Sean O’Rourke that he believes Enda Kenny can be elected after 12, but he “won’t speak for independents”.
6 May 2016
11:21AM
And if Enda Kenny can’t secure the six independents necessary to get to 58 votes today?
Fine Gael’s Sean Kyne, a chief negotiator with the independents, reckons Enda will “be going to the Park“, meaning another election.
6 May 2016
11:17AM
Mattie McGrath is out, however. He and Cork independent TD Michael Collins will be staying in opposition.
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The ‘dinners’ my daughter was being given were awful. Wouldn’t feed them to an animal. So now I don’t order any from the school meals and she just takes in a packed lunch like normal. I cook dinner at home for us all. She isn’t a fussy eater but couldn’t manage to eat anything they were given and it was all being wasted.
Another example of a waste of taxpayers money to tick boxes.The idea is good in ensuring all kids have a least one good meal a day but the cost of this for those that need it will far outweigh the good.
@John Sleator: What price would you put on giving food to those children that need it? You’ve clearly balanced the books and determined it’s not a cost worth paying.
I’m back to giving my lad his packed lunch.
At least I know it’s healthy. I wouldn’t feed that school meal stuff to a dog.
Ultra High processed, and a soggy mess by the time it’s gets to the kids. I’ve actually still to request the school to stop sending it home, it’s taking up weight in my bin every day. Pure Muck
Maybe the same menu should only be served in the Dail canteen to show the powers that be what they are spending the millions on. If they think it’s good enough to serve to some of the future politicians of Ireland, it should be good enough to serve to today’s current politicians. Just a thought.
I looked at the menu choices and it appears like put together ‘meals’ by bulk buying large quantities for eur 1 in a popular chain of frozen food stores.
Why if the ‘meals’ are prepacked use a misleading photo which suggests cantine style food?
As a parent I would prefer to have control over what my child eats and not avail of these ‘meals’. A healthy meal needn’t be expensive to shop for, while I appreciate some parents don’t seem to be able to afford feeding their children, maybe education of parents mightn’t go amiss.
I don’t know how some places like fresh to today are getting away with the muck they serve. There needs to be more inspections on each school, I’ve three kids in 2 different school and both meals are absolute muck. The potatoes in one is that reconstituted powder potatoes. It’s just full of oil.
@Nurse On Call.: I’ve 3 kids in school as well,none of them are getting these meals….im happy to feed my own kids because I’m their parent and it’s my responsibility.I honestly think they should get rid of this scheme altogether as most of us knew that the usual people in this country who contribute very little and whinge about everything were always going to complain unless there was a Michelin star chef and butlers installed in every school.
I love the impression the Journal gives with the photo of food being served from a canteen, implying that extra people have been employed to serve the food to the children. It’s prepared by the company who get the contract, then school staff serve it to the children, which cuts into teaching time.
I dunno I doubt eating bacon every day would drive up addiction, not all ultra processed foods are made equal… But the fact that they’re all prepackaged doesn’t feel right, and absolutely the focus should be on providing healthy meals. The fact that they’re not portioned for the right age group is plain stupid – seriously they’re losing money on uneaten food. It’s actually not that hard to make healthy meals affordable, if you plan ahead and pay attention to which vegetables are currently most affordable, which is probably easier when you have a supplier than when you go to your local Lidl anyways.
There was nothing wrong with the system they had in place before this and the menu was a lot healthier. The first thing they took off the menu was fruit! Madness.
The lunches started alright but have deteriorated as time has gone on.
My son won’t eat them and we send him with his own lunch every day.
This seems to me much like everything else in this country,
The well connected set up the company to provide the lunches and got the contract and are making a lot of guaranteed money from the state.
Meanwhile they cannot keep up with the demand with staff etc and are just firing out any old rubbish……sure they’re only kids, they won’t notice!
The menus are usually thought out and like that on a day where pizza is an option the other 4 options might be a pasta Bolognese, chicken dinner, something vegetarian etc. But if a parent knows their child will only eat the processed option everyday that’s what they will pick to ensure their child eats. If they pick options that are healthier that their child doesn’t like they get a note home to send their child in with a different lunch in those days so they won’t go hungry. I am blessed my child will try new foods and is a big lover of fruit and vegetables. But there is a day where the only item on the menu she likes is the chicken tenders. (she’s not a lover of curry or the cheese on lasagne and she hates all fish) All you can do is try your best to get them to eat well.
@Mike B: Because we’re getting better at detecting it, mainly. Over 50% increase in numbers of cancer survivors compared with a decade ago – earlier detection is leading to increased recoveries.
It’s like none of them have ever had children. You want 20 junior infants cooking their own lunch for the educational value? Or you want 40 5th and 6th clas students taking 2 hours out to prep lunch for their peers? The food does come in one use plastic as it is heated in them. For some kids this could be their one good meal a day and the menu usually varies from spaghetti Bolognese, to roast turkey dinner to a pizza or fish fingers. Each meal however does come with a serving of veg. You can make them more nutritional all you want but then you are looking at more waste. Because kids won’t eat something they don’t like you can argue with a six year old all you want about how the white fish with no breadcrumbs on is just as nice as fish fingers but they are not going to listen.
It doesn’t sound much different to a lot of the junk I see parents giving their kids anyway. Also, according to some people they won’t have time to become unhealthy from it as the planet is doomed (most days anyway)
Does Ruth Hegarty provide any evidence that children can become addicted to food additives? Because this sounds like it’s made up to scare parents. People need to stop being so whingey. If you don’t like the hot lunches, make your kid a sandwich then. My kid likes most of them and having a few chicken nuggets isn’t going to do her any harm.
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