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Why this TD won't be selling his soul to stop a second election

Thomas Pringle told us why he hasn’t entertained talks with Fine Gael or Fianna Fáil.

Nicky Ryan / TheJournal.ie

THOMAS PRINGLE IS one of the few independent TDs who hasn’t engaged in the seemingly endless talks with Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil in recent weeks.

While the independent groupings, the Healy-Rae brothers, Katherine Zappone and Maureen O’Sullivan have held some 70 hours of talks with the two main parties, Pringle has taken a backseat.

There’s plenty of criticism of Sinn Féin, the Social Democrats and others, including Pringle, who havent engaged in talks to form a government. Some believe they have abdicated responsibility and are doing nothing to prevent a second election in the coming weeks.

But Pringle believes that it’s not worth it if he can’t get his priorities dealt with, telling TheJournal.ie today:

If there is a second election, I have to live with that and fight it again and hopefully retain my seat again. But I’m not going to sell my soul to prevent a second election.

The Donegal TD said he’s happy to talk to anybody, but his brief engagements with both parties did not give him any hope that he would get what he wanted for his constituents, including the abolition of Irish Water and water charges.

“If you enter into a negotiations you have to agree that things are up for a negotiation. I felt, after the conversation I had with Simon Coveney, that water wasn’t up for negotiation,” Pringle said of his chat with the Fine Gael minister who has led efforts to form a minority government.

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Simon Coveney was adamant that water charges would have to stay and he saw that water charges was the mechanism to fund Irish Water into the future. I am very strongly opposed to water taxes and Irish Water. So on the basis of that I didn’t feel that that was something I could continue with.

He also met with Micheál Martin prior to the first sitting of the 32nd Dáil last month, but has had no further engagement with Fianna Fáil leader since then.

“I haven’t heard anything from him since so that avenue is, I presume, closed off,” he said.

But in any case, Pringle doesn’t believe Fianna Fáil is serious about getting rid of charges, as it’s only proposed suspending them for a number of years.

For the former Sinn Féin councillor, like so many others, the ‘elephant in the room’ remains: the need for Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil to hammer out a deal to govern.

“A lot has been said about the responsibility of independents to ensure that a minority government goes into place,” he said.

But very little has been talked about about the responsibility of the two right-wing parties – there’s absolutely very little difference between in terms of policy – and their responsibility in terms of coming together and forming a government, which is actually the only workable majority and workable government that’s in place in terms of this Dáil.

There’ll be more from Thomas Pringle on why he left Sinn Féin and the “myth” that Donegal is anti-establishment on TheJournal.ie this weekend.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:30 PM

    It must be hard being the only fat man in your country.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 4:14 PM

    @Eoin Mulhern: North Korea is Ultra-Nationalism brought to it’s logical conclusion. It’s quite scary the number of similarities between Kim Jong-Un and Donald Trump.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 5:37 PM

    You don’t have to like trump to see that that’s hyperbole openborders.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 6:50 PM

    North Korea isn’t nationalism, sure it doesn’t even include half of its nation. It sounds more like fascism to be hon, but who knows what it’s really like, other than Matt Cooper!

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    Jan 25th 2017, 8:05 PM

    @Eoin Mulhern: I read his grandfather ate 2 dogs a day, rotten git…

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    Jan 25th 2017, 8:38 PM

    1 Sausage dog & 1 Hot dog

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:24 PM

    Kim Jong-Un’s father is dead?
    I didn’t even know he was il.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 5:08 PM

    @john fairclough:

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    Jan 25th 2017, 8:10 PM

    @john fairclough: He suffers dreadfully from wet feet when he sees his doctor… Because his doctors name Is We Too Low…
    Thanks RT… LOL.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:25 PM

    He must have no other relations or cousins. If he did then chances are he probably doesn’t anymore.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:30 PM

    @Tweed Cap: He has a brother

    There is a more complete article on the BBC website. He’s aware that his extended family will be in a camp being “re-educated” (at least)

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:31 PM

    @Tricia Golden: And sisters:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38741078

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:39 PM

    A hard burden for him to carry around for the rest of his days.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:44 PM

    @Tricia Golden: For 3 generations. 3 generations are imprisoned – often born, raised and die in a prison camp.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:48 PM

    @Tricia Golden: In the video link he clearly states that IF Kim Jong-Un’s position is threatened as a world power, be would use nuclear weapons against the world as we know it. Scary concept that there is he and trump at the controls of nuclear buttons.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 5:12 PM

    Some of the old mates of Howlin and the stickies must be upset were they not frequent visitors to that part of the world #The unfinished revolution

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    Trump in a modern day Cuban missile crisis, I’d go to see that in the cinema. Your man Baldwin from SNL would be a shoe in for main lead.

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    You are worthress Arec Barrwin!!

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:07 PM

    “the regime is in decline, with its people increasingly disillusioned” are they sure it wasn’t an American defector??

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:09 PM

    @Gavrilo Princip: Or British…..

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:36 PM

    Or German?

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    Jan 26th 2017, 10:09 AM

    @Gavrilo Princip: You polititc is based on envy

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    Jan 27th 2017, 11:01 AM

    @Val Martin: how so?

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:20 PM

    He’s not Wong there.

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    Lacist!

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    Plick!

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    @David Mac Shite: borrox!

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:21 PM

    Seems to harping on about North Korea’s nuclear development a little to much for the sceptic in me.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this was a propaganda stunt arranged by Kim Jong un himself to grab the attention of us westerners to his nuclear programs success.

    After all why was this guy out of all the ambassadors allowed to take all his family with him?

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    Jan 25th 2017, 4:12 PM

    He wasn’t.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 4:50 PM

    So how did he

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    Jan 25th 2017, 5:00 PM

    @Shane Murphy: he didn’t take all his family with him. Just two sons and the rest of his family are most likely now in camps, as he says in the BBC interview.
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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:30 PM

    There must not be any threadmills over there . The size of the little fat despot .

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:44 PM

    There’s a North Korean reads the Journal? Why else would someone give you a thumbs down?

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    Fat shaming is wrong, mmmkay!

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:27 PM

    Solidarity with the 88.5 million euro lotto winner.
    Wally quick, your homeland is falling apart. Your esteemed leader needs you to stop trying to convert us, go home, get up on the nearest hill and Kim can use you for mortar practice. The “worker” Kim can then share in your wealth to put a roof over his head.
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    Jan 25th 2017, 4:43 PM

    @Alan Cooke: “The elite were “turning their backs” on leader Kim Jong-Un” and we thought it is a “mass movement of ordinary workers” headed by the top worker Kim Jong Un. The left and the Shinners will go ballistic.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 3:17 PM

    Now. how to fix a warhead on a moore Street firework

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    China should be doing something to help these people, they’re in the best position to do it.

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    @TehJurolan: Killing cats?

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    Jan 25th 2017, 5:44 PM

    No doubt SF/IRA will regard the defector as a traitor to the cause.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 8:06 PM

    @Paddy Lions: You are more S.F. now than S.F. are?

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    Jan 25th 2017, 6:17 PM

    Where is Dave O’Keefe?, he is a huge commie supporter

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    Jan 25th 2017, 11:26 PM

    Jasus Kim , the cattle broke out again. Did Ya get them in again Kim.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 7:03 PM

    Misleading picture, much? For one wild moment there I thought Kim Lard-Arse had defected from his own regime.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 6:47 PM

    Sum Guy.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 9:10 AM

    One of the most high-profile defectors from North Korea has held his first press conference…after weeks of prepping with his western puppet masters. Hmmm…

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    Jan 26th 2017, 10:14 AM

    @Yenreit: At least you are honest. Readers can see what the left want for the rest of us. They would endure Kim’s rule for them and their children for the trill of seeing us suffer it.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 11:39 AM

    @Val Martin I’m not left or right. I just call it as I see it.

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    Jan 25th 2017, 8:07 PM

    Kim is waving and saying you could be like me, if your weren’t eating weeds in my fields…

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