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EVERY SATURDAY MORNING we take a look at all the best comments left on the site by our readers over the past week.
This week there was a lot of talk about unparliamentary language in the Seanad (and in a Dublin nightclub), same-sex marriage, cyclists getting fined, the final stages of the abortion legislation and an unexpected court case.
So here, in no particular order, are the standout comments from the week that was.
The top 5 articles which received the most comments this week
1. Poll: How will you vote on gay marriage? (441 comments)
2. Senator Jim Walsh criticised for abortion description (345 comments)
3. Poll: Should cyclists be fined for breaking the rules of the road? (320 comments)
4. Win a round of golf and overnight stay for 2 in TheScore.ie’s Open competition (307 comments)
5. Poll: Should the government take a position on same-sex marriage? (292 comments)
Some of the best comments left on the site this week
(Jimi’s Barber Shop/Facebook)
Ahead of Bruce Springsteen playing in Cork, we thought it would be a good idea to give him some tips for some words that come in useful when he communicates with Lee-siders – however Rachel O’Meara was one step ahead of us:
C’mere lah, story? Dem jifs pure daycent, specially da one on da two tone bears, I’m in nots here like! Am ragen I’m not goin, would pure love to see the boss tonight, out on the lash getting guzz eyed listenin to his pure daycent tunes! Can I just say as well Tanorah is well tastey, it’s me dazzah ‘specially on a roaster like today, god I’d give my right arm for a sup now I’m well parched and this wan ain’t in Cork no more, no boss and no tanorah, I’m absolutely pure gutted here like!!!
Heartwarming moment of the week, courtesy of Jed I. Knight:
Aw that’s just magic. Who could refuse?
Many, many years ago I happened to be in on a paediatric ward with one of my own children, there was another child who was there for quite a while and had gone of his food so the staff arranged to have a chef come up to the ward to him and he’d cook whatever the wee boy wanted. As far as I remember the wee lad asked for lasagne, the chef wrote everything down and then asked what he’d like for desert. Black forest gateaux, the wee lad replied. I always remember the look on the chef’s face. He asked if the lad wouldn’t like baked Alaska or some other fancy deserts but no, the lad had a hankering for black forest gateaux, the chef nearly cried but a few hours later he came back with a big black forest gateaux. The lad had a small slice from it and that was it. Amazing what that chef did for that wee lad. Nice cake too… I’d say.
Some commenters were critical of the west Limerick coroner who said that recording the number of suicides ‘serves nobody’. Matt Connolly was one of the people who disagreed:
Coroners need to be emotionally removed from the cases& whether it’s asphyxiation due to a ligature around the neck, drowning, gunshot to right temple etc…the exact medical reason for cessation of life needs to be recorded as cause of death. I don’t think it actually affects the statistics on suicide. (at least I hope not – if it does, then this is scandalous practice) Perhaps acknowledgement that wounds etc..were considered to be self-inflicted. But ultimately discretion on this should be left with the families left behind. The psychological fallout must be immense.
Anyone who has ever learned to drive will know the sheer panic that accompanies it. WanderArch had this advice…:
Too fast, too fast, slow down, turn the wheel. Mind the lights. The sheep. The cows. The dog. The cat. The rat. The hat.”
Never let your mother into the car or anywhere near it when learning to drive.
NEVER.
… while wellyd shared his own story of mortification:
My dad taught me how to drive last year. It was going really well until one day we drove to the local tax office because I needed to renew my provisional licence. The tax office was this new glassy building and had a one way system so I drove into it and dad told me it was one way. But my problem was I didn’t know which one way to go. It resulted in my driving up on a new path and wrecking a very fancy flower bed. When I eventually did manage to park up and go inside the man at the desk burst into hysterical laughter and informed me of probably need a third and fourth provisional licence at the rate I was going. He seen the whole thing through the window. Fcuking taken.
The 5 most popular comments on the site this week
1. First up this week is this comment from Cian O’Mahony about the controversial (or not, depending on how you look at it) stamp received by patrons at a Dublin student night – which didn’t impress some of their parents. Cian got 1,802 thumbs up and this week’s top place for this observation about one such parent:
If her daughter is old enough to go to a nightclub, then she is old enough to make her own decisions in life.
2. Next up, this comment by Matt on the poll about same-sex marriage got 1,419 thumbs up:
I would vote YES. But i think it should not come to a vote. Why should i have a say if 2 people can get married.
3. Paul Anthony Ward is in third place this week with 1,062 thumbs up for this comment about David Norris and the whole fannygate incident:
Ya have to admit, “The Regina Monologues” is quite clever
4. This comment from Kay Tighe about the Dáil bar proved popular with 967 thumbs up:
Just get rid of the feckin bar full stop
5. And finally, also on the Dáil bar, John O’Neill got 882 thumbs up for this post:
If there was a suspicion in a court that a juror had even one drink they’d be immediately dismissed and possibly held in contempt of court also.
Yet our TDs can go into the national parliament with alcohol on board to discuss and vote on issues as important as human life?? Unbelievable.
Spot any good comments that you think deserve to be highlighted? Drop us a line: mail christine@thejournal.ie with any suggestions for next week’s comments of the week.
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Christ. Sixth count mehole
@Trevor: lesson. Vote for who you actually want. Not how the trickle down system advises
@Eugene Walsh: trickle down system? PR is one of the fairest possible ways of voting. This undermining of our democratic processes needs to stop.
@Eugene Walsh: I would laugh if someone else was nominated and won ? that would upset the cosy cartel that would be worth staying up late for….
@Jane: have you ever thought of telling your beloved ffg about democracy they made sure sf were not going into govt at any cost, Mick renaged on his promise not to go into govt with fg in other words ignore what I say during an election that’s just what you say to get elected and leo
socks was happy to go into opposition until Mick had a word with him and explained what would happen if sf got into power all their lovely plans would be out the window….
@Peter donnelly: I don’t trust any of them, SF included. But how would any of this been different if SF formed a coalition with either of them?
@Trevor: Every TD elected are equal regardless of count.
The greatest example of promoting complete and total failure the country has ever seen.
Michael. Take a bow.
@David Corrigan: Well said David, that’s right up there with the most popular party only fielding barely enough candidates to form a half majority. Now THAT was promoting a complete & total failure.
Mary Lou. Take a bow.
@David Corrigan: Well said
@James Brown: Charles Haughey. Bertie Aherne. I rest my case your honour.
@James Brown: A weak effort James.
@David Corrigan: You’re right. It was a weak effort.
But then she only has herself to blame for that!!
@James Brown: Could she see the results of the election before it happened James?
@James Brown: Talking plenty of Brown ,James?
@David Corrigan: According to SF, each election they increase their popularity which results in significant gains in the house.
This would appear to be true.
GE 2011 – 14 TD’s elected
GE 2016 – 23 TD’s elected
GE 2020 – 37 TD’s elected
However, look a bit closer. In 2016 SF fielded 50 candidates, whereas in 2020 they only fielded 42. If SF are the most popular party, why the large reduction in candidates. Surely it should be more. What happened to the other 8?
Maybe SF realised if they reduced the number of candidates to 1 in each constituency where they previously ran more, they wouldn’t split their vote, resulting in more TD’s getting past the post.
Factor in the obvious protest vote among the younger electorate & there you have it.
SF appear to be more popular, than they actually are.
@James Brown: I honestly don’t know how they came up with their election strategy James but they could have done better for sure.
I think things will be different next time round though as FF and FG have really put themselves into a corner now i.e. they have to perform in government or they will give SF a clear run to forming a majority government.
Maybe FF and FG will perform as they really have no choice. The next few years will be interesting.
@David Corrigan: Well I doubt either FF or FG would take advice from someone who didn’t vote for either, but if I was in Govt I’d make sure that at least the 1st & maybe the last 2 Budgets were Giveaway Budgets, to try & claw back some of the electorate that have lost confidence in their abilities to govern effectively..
Alas, with the inclusion of The Greens, that’s a lot less likely to happen now. It will probably go the way of……
TAX, TAX, TAX, Carbon TAX, TAX, TAX, Green TAX, TAX !!
@James Brown: I don’t think the money will be there for give away budgets. Also, as you rightly stated, the green taxes will only add to the pain. It’s going to be interesting watching it all unfold.
Such a sad state of affairs. A power grab of epic proportions. I’ve a feeling history won’t look kindly on this but Mehole got what he wanted, and to him that’s all that matters.
@Bingobango: he just sold his party down the river and effectively merged with FG. All this to get the top job which he felt he was entitled to. He kept saying he heard on the doorsteps that people wanted change and wanted FG out of power. He then gets into coalition with them.
@Brian Madden: Not only going into coalition, but gifting them the top spot after 2.5 years. It’s unbelievable that people think this is a great result. I mean after 5 years (if they last that long together) how do they expect to go back to the polls and ask the people to pick one of them when they’re essentially the same party now. After 100 years of spoofing the Irish people into thinking they’re opposites, they now merge into one. Shame on anyone who voted FF after everything they did to sell this country 10 years ago and now they’re back at the helm as we potentially enter another recession.
@Bingobango: If history had anything to do it he wouldnt be near there
@Simon Barr: i think FF may be squeezed out of irish politics. The republican wing going to SF. The farmers going to FG and the conservatives going to aontu or renua.
@Brian Madden: in all fairness they should have merged decades ago
@Brian Madden: This is nonsense. He doesn’t have unmitigated power. His party were entitled at numerous points to reject the proposal. The overwhelming majority of party members agreed to this. So whether it works out or not, its down to the entire party, not just him.
Mícheál Martin’s price for being Taoiseach for the next 2 years is to allow Leo Varadkar, the leader of a party that picked up just 20% of the vote and came third, to be Taoiseach for the following 2 years. This is an affront to the Irish people and an affront to democracy.
@Johnny 5:
You need to educate yourself on how democracy works in Ireland. Read the constitution, its not that complicated but amazing how so many commenters don’t understand.
@Doug:
Democracy my arse, this is nothing but a combined grab to keep their snouts in a trough.
They will not last a year before the squabbling begins and they turn on each other.
I look forward to seeing these so called parties being totally destroyed for once and for all
They will pay a dear price for their actions.
As for the hacks & shills that relish in spewing their party tripe…
You might have a few fellow believers that will give you a thumbs up but nobody really gives a toss about you or your party line.
@Michael Clinton: Most people don’t give a toss about the clowns on the journal comments section having a meltdown because SF/IRA are not in government.
@Doug: Yes and who put forward this constitution way back then, FF/fg did thats who. The problem is democracy doesn’t work in Ireland with all the shady deals and corruption . People vote for a party with certain policies and when the party gets into govt they do the exact opposite. I am not happy with that Doug but obviously you are.. The constitution is completely out of date in regards to todays situations. Its nearly a century old and we should put it out of its misery. We need a new one
Hmmmm not sure this was the change the people wanted.
It’s unbelievable, two proven corrupt parties in government.
@Paul Power: coz the other option had no links to criminality at all at all ……… small far away …..
@Finian Gardner: glad you agree that the two parties are corrupt.
@Finian Gardner:
Oh wow, what an inspirational post.
What page of the FFG party book is that on?
Cue dozens of people claiming that a system which requires significant compromise, avoids extremism, places infinite numbers of checks and balances as intrinsic to its functioning, uses proportional representation, and as a matter 9f course in recent decades cannot function with just one party in power, is undemocratic. That this is a power grab. That no one elected this man as Taoiseach. That SF won and should be in power. That someone not elected on the 1st count is illegitimate
All that these people demonstrate is that there is an on going and urgent necessity for politics and civics to be a core element of secondary level education.
@David Clements:
The ignorance of how democracy works in Ireland is sadly being demonstrated by so many commenters.
@David Clements: well said
@Doug: People have the democratic right to ignorance. Under the proud bannerhead can be seen the solemn declaration, ‘My ignorance is equal to your knowledge’.
@Doug:
Oh shut up you insufferable @#€&.
People (taxpayers/ voters) are entitled to speak about how they feel without some armchair warriors pontificating.
@Doug: We know how it works and it doesn’t benefit the ordinary citizens just the ones at the top.
The only thing that matters is the Shinners are not in government. Nothing else matters.
Five Sinn Fein councilors nominated Paddy Houlihan as Mayor of South Dublin Council yesterday. They didn’t do that without approval from SF HQ.
@Chin Feeyin: Obsession. A fragrance by FGHQ.
@Chin Feeyin: Those councillors didn’t get SF HQ approval for that,but I think it was disgraceful, I agree!
What matters to me is the people in the country facing this Covid19 pandemic emergency and uncertainty re their jobs,children’s lives ,health and education,communities,services and tackling the other emergencies in health, homelessness/housing, etc.I worry too re the 2and wave of Coronavirus infections and not just how it would affect the most vulnerable and jobs,rents,mortgages etc but affects on other health conditions too unrelated to Coronavirus infections plus people on hospital waiting lists/other waiting lists too.
Micheal Martin has always been an excellent TD…… With vast experience as former positions as Minister for Health, Education, Trade and Enterprise, and Foreign Affiars in sure he will lead the country with integrity..
@Paul O’Sullivan: I read that as sarcasm but blow me down, I do believe you’re actually serious!
@Paul O’Sullivan: integrity and FF do not go hand in hand
@Paul O’Sullivan: it still took him umpteen counts to get reelected.
@Paul O’Sullivan: Amadán
@Paul O’Sullivan: You can’t lead a country with integrity when you lid through your teeth to get there. And was it not Michael Mattin that founded the HSE. Excellent TD my backside.
@Paul O’Sullivan: Did you get a knock to the head
@Johnny 5: That’s the problem with some Irish people they would actually agree with Paul.
The green party take a bow facilitating this will be the death of your party, no harm either Éamon Ryan the man who sank the green party.
Just let them get on with it now, moaning on the journal won’t make a blind bit of difference. We still have a pandemic to worry about.
@Olivia Smith: True a pandemic for sure now also have to deal with parasites.
@Tommy Mc Quaid: They have always been there. No difference just a different leader.
Congratulations Micheàl! Make Ireland great again!
@Mattress Dick: MAKE IRELAND BROKE AGAIN!
@Mattress Dick: He’s a failed politician leading a failed party imto one of the worst economic crises the world has ever seen. No wonder Leo is smiling, he’s just rode in on his Trojan horse.
@Johnny 5: By that measure, all parties are failed parties no…?
@Mark Brown: Well no. Some party’s haven’t been given the opportunity to prove their worth yet.
Not what we need especially now these 3 individuals will do nothing for the better of the people hard times ahead another generation in poverty
As the headline says. Heres what to expect.
Corruption,Cronyism,Scandle, Crippling Tax increases, Homelessness and growing salads in tour south facing window boxes.
Mehole and the greens. Christ Can this year get any worse ?
What a great day for Ireland. The grand collective of naysayers, lefties, pinkos, shinners , anti water brigade, welfare spongers etc. are surely choking on their Aldi cornflakes this morning.
W’ere back baby.
@Colonel Grant: Clearly you don’t think much of Ireland or how it should be managed. Well done you.
@Colonel Grant: You can only hold back the tide for so long. SF have forced to two cheeks together. Now we will have a real opposition and a party that will build on it’s success at the last election by winning the next one. Hope you’ve brought your swimmung togs Colonel!
@David Corrigan: Did you wake up The Risen, Angela McNamara etc. They are supposed to be complaining about not getting into government with their 24%
@For Goodness Sake: I am sure you and your mates in the propaganda room will do a great job waking up the whole nation with your nonsense talk FGS.
@Johnny 5: Note that the tide goes out as soon as it has finished coming in.
@David Corrigan:
Free, fair elections have delivered 3-Party Coalition. It was always likely outcome after 4 1/2 mths of intensive negs. given largest parties in State only secured approx 25% each of votes in Feb GE.
So getting to 51% collectively was the challenge, and kudos to the trio who set aside their diffs in forming a Govt for good of country when political stability, credibility should be uppermost in minds of all true Irish patriots.
Covid-19, €250b of Nat Debt, Brexit, isn’t going away anytime soon, you know! So skilled, exp., political operators need to be at the wheel for foreseeable future to maintain ongoing confidence of int. bodies, funders backing
@Colonel Grant: That dismissive insulting comment shows the lack of empathy and tolerance for sections of society,voters who dont vote for FG or FF and genuinely voted for change so that the National emergencies in health,homelessness/housing that developed from crisis after crisis unabated under FG,could be adequately and effectively tackled,etc.
As I said before I like certain people in all political parties even if I disagree with their policies and I respect their voters.People voted for SF knowing that they said they would talk to all parties after GE so SF voters respected those voters too.SF policies re rent freeze,extra supports for SMEs which comprise 98%of all businesses in Ireland,tackling insurance companies,reforming childcare including costs,etc were used as Covid19 pandemic emergency measures.
SF also proposed a Brexit Stabilization Fund but PFG doesnt take into account a hard Brexit which is forecast!Why?
SF’s proposal re taxes re multinationals on-shored here between 2015-2017 was described as an excellent idea by Stephen Kinsella and was actual advise given to FG by IFAC(but they just included multinationals on-shored here from January 2018)and Stephen Kinsella said SF’s proposal would help offset the inevitable losses of Corporation tax when new OECD rules regarding digital taxes come in later this year.Seamus Coffey said Ireland could lose between €2Bn-€6Bn in Corporation taxes!What proposals did FG/FF/Green PFG have to tackle this?
So instead of insulting people who vote for other parties why dont you actually debate intelligently and tell me why FG/FF/Green PFG have no Plans re hard Brexit&potential losses of €2Bn-€6Bn in Corporation taxes?!Michael Martin &others said theres NO Plan B!
@Rory J Leonard: Skilled? Skilled at what?
@Colonel Grant: All they have done is split the country further where the haves Will have more and the rest of us will pay the price. They will reap what they sow.
Not my government
@Ruth Butler: Are you living outside Ireland or up North? If you are living in the Republic then they are your government.
@Sal Paradise: I would regard not accepting this govt as legitimate perfectly fine as it is full of proven liars and corrupt individuals who judging by their past record are not going to change. So yes Sal not my govt.
All the back slapping between the two centre parties now.do us a favour and just merge together.ireland does not need two parties that are the same and has this country held my the balls.the next general election they will put on their sparring gloves again.pathetic it is
@tuco: I agree. But then you look at the left and can only roll your eyes. Labour and SD are the same and the latter only exist due to personalities. As for SP PBP AAA RISE I4C, the only logical response when told about this acronymic omnishambles of a set up is WTF! And then you have SF, the party of paddy Holohan and David Cullinane. The former spewing homophobia and UKIP styled racism, the latter a barstool republican whose sober explanation of his drunken ramblings showed an intellect of infinite smallness…
No time for Sinn Fein , but it’s a bad time When this is the alternative option ,
@Sk19:
Please explain what option was a viable alternative government? The shinners hate fianna fail as can be seen by their comments every day so whats left for them to try to form a govt??
Great. Watch out on budget day for all the new “green” taxes.
Martin is not elected, he is appointed. The three parties have made a mockery of democracy.
@Dave Barrett: Your lack of understanding of the political and constitutional processes of this country are blatantly obvious. The electorate never elect a Taoiseach.
@Alan Dillon: you obviously don’t understand the electorate voted for change, not some cocked up deal between parties no one wants and certainly not Martin who if you remember screwed the Irish people duri g the crash.
Good luck to them, hope they all can work together for Ireland. Oh the shinners have woken up ? Mary lue for the big job , haha, back where they like to be, the back bench. Getting paid lots of money just to complain about everything.
How long will it be every reference of PFG causes Micheal Martin to start sucking through his teeth, shaking his head and blaming everything on covid. And poor Eamon. He’s the only one who can’t hear the bus coming.. again.
Many people seem to think Mehole has abandoned his political principles, which is obviously incorrect, for that to be true he would have needed to have some to abandon.
We need to reduce the number of TD’s. If you fail to get elected after 3 counts, then good luck.
Absolute disgrace these clowns are still in .please stop voting fffg
Here’s what to expect: a living nightmare
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