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Former FG Minister for Communications Michael Lowry arriving at the Moriarty Tribunal in 2007. Leon Farrell/Photocall Ireland

Taoiseach slams TD for 'mudslinging' as he confirms tribunal costs will overrun by millions

There were tetchy exchanges between TD Pearse Doherty and the Taoiseach today.

THERE WERE ACCUSATIONS of “mudslinging” today at an Oireachtas Committee meeting Taoiseach Leo Varadkar is attending.

Varadkar told the Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach, that costs of the Moriarity, Cregan and Cook tribunals will overrun by millions. 

The Moriarty Tribunal kicked off in 1997 to look into the financial affairs of Charlie Haughey and Michael Lowry – and 22 years on, it continues to cost the State money.

Officially called the Tribunal of Inquiry into certain Payments to Politicians and Related Matters, it took 14 years to find that former Fine Gael minister Michael Lowry had an “insidious and pervasive” influence over the awarding of Ireland’s second mobile phone licence in the 1990s to Denis O’Brien’s Esat Digifone company.

Lowry is currently still a sitting TD for Tipperary. He rejects the findings of the Tribunal, as does O’Brien.

Earlier this year, the Public Accounts Committee heard the tribunal would cost €65 million.

Today, the Taoiseach said it will top out at €75 million – but he said this depends on the final cost of the bills. 

Tetchy exchanges 

There were heated exchanges between Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty and the Taoiseach when the Donegal TD asked Varadkar whether he believed the Moriarty Tribunal was value for money. 

Varadkar said he thinks the tribunal did “very good work”, adding that some of its findings resulted in policy and legislative changes. Could the tribunal have done the same work for less money? The Taoiseach said “quite possibly”.

Doherty asked the Taoiseach about whether he was happy relying on Michael Lowry’s government support, and also mentioned a recent meeting with businessman Denis O’Brien. 

The Taoiseach told the committee that Doherty’s questioning was just “mudslinging”. 

“I bumped into Denis O’Brien in a corridor in Davos,” he said, adding that the questioning was “ridiculous”. 

Varadkar shot back at Doherty, asking him if he was concerned that there are people sitting on the Sinn Féin benches who have “very serious criminal convictions”. Doherty said he was the one asking the questions at today’s committee hearing. 

IBRC Tribunal 

Referencing the Cregran Tribunal – which is the investigation into the sale of certain loans held by IBRC, the former Anglo Irish Bank, including the controversial Siteserv deal – the Taoiseach said costs will also increase. 

To date, it has cost €7 million, however, Varadkar said he expects it to cost around €30 million. He said it is difficult to give a final figure on any ongoing investigation as there is no end date in sight. 

The Cooke investigation, which is reviewing Project Eagle, Nama’s sale of Northern Ireland-linked loans to US company Cerberus, for €1.6 billion, has cost €2 million. 

The tribunal is due to report in June. Varadkar said he had no reason to believe that an extension would be sought. 

The Taoiseach said he expects it will cost around €10 million. In giving his predictions, he was keen to point out that they are estimates. 

He said the cost of tribunals is something “we should all bear in mind”,  stating that there isn’t a week that goes by that the opposition isn’t calling for a tribunal to be set up into a matter. 

Varadkar said while the calls may be merited in some cases, politicians have to remember that these inquiries don’t often provide the answers that are being sought, and ultimately it is the taxpayer that pays.

Fianna Fáil’s Barry Cowen said that many of the tribunals and the matters they investigate are warranted. 

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    Mute Nakedcleanersireland.com
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    Apr 6th 2020, 9:43 AM

    Has anyone else noticed that since this covid 19 started, that the weather has been amazing, the skies have been clearer and the water taste better

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    Mute Logan Shepherd
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    Apr 6th 2020, 10:37 AM

    @Nakedcleanersireland.com: Maybe this is Mother Natures way of putting us back in our box.

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    Mute Sharp Elsi Mate
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    Apr 6th 2020, 10:54 AM

    @Nakedcleanersireland.com: How’s business these days?

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    Mute John Jones
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    Apr 6th 2020, 10:57 AM

    @Nakedcleanersireland.com: Amazing weather??? It’s been cold. Lower than the average monthly temperature for March.

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    Mute Francis Devenney
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    Apr 6th 2020, 10:57 AM

    @Nakedcleanersireland.com: Do you think the fact it’s spring might be a factor?

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    Mute Mary Morrisey
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:13 AM

    @Nakedcleanersireland.com: It is the time of year for the weather to be like this. Maybe you’ve been too busy to notice those things before?

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    Mute Mary Morrisey
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:24 AM

    @Logan Shepherd: I’ve learned I need to slow down and enjoy things more. Career change may be in order after this.

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    Mute John fitzpatrick
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:27 AM

    @Nakedcleanersireland.com: as a golfer that went out in the bad weather and mud for 5 months, yes I noticed the last 5 weeks.

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    Mute Tommy Roche
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    Apr 6th 2020, 12:37 PM

    @Nakedcleanersireland.com: Really ? Lashed rain all day yesterday in the south-east.

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    Mute John kavanagh
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    Apr 6th 2020, 9:04 AM

    17 degrees,, yaaaay if I could only go out it would be great

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    Mute Mary Morrisey
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:16 AM

    @John kavanagh: why can’t you get out?

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    Apr 6th 2020, 9:18 AM

    Oh dear we will pay for this. Stand by for claims of the hottest April on record, mumbling about carbon tax from Fianma Gael, talk of banning turf and daysul

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    Mute Richard
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    Apr 6th 2020, 10:24 AM

    Think I will dust off the bbq and stock up on a few beers.

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    Mute Justice Mickey
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    Apr 6th 2020, 10:40 AM

    @Richard:
    Now that sounds like a brilliant plan BBQ in the back garden, good ole bit of craic over the fence with the neighbours while social distancing.
    Gonna give the old BBQ a damn good scrubbing and text the neighbours..
    I’ll raise a glass to you Richard.

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    Mute ThatLJD
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    Apr 6th 2020, 10:44 AM

    @Justice Mickey: we’re still talking about an outdoor charcoal grill type cooking device here right, and not something else? You see where my confusion could’ve come from, you getting all excited, giving something a good scrubbing, messaging the neighbours! Or have I ‘swung’ to the wrong conclusion mate! Either way, enjoy it man!

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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:07 AM

    @ThatLJD:
    Hahaha, that’s 2 flipping great ideas on the same thread …
    *looking for my drill*

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    Mute Jim Sullivan
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:48 AM

    @Justice Give the old drill a cleaning as well.

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    Mute Matthew O'Kane ☘️✊
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    Apr 6th 2020, 9:04 AM

    Sounds like my drinking habits

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    Mute John Judd
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    Apr 6th 2020, 10:49 AM

    Biggest drop in Co2 emmissions since WW2, I have noticed bright sunny skies colder nights with less cloud coverage , maybe the climate change deniers can now stay quiet given that there is actual evidence to prove fewer car journeys, flights , indutries closing etc actial makes a difference .
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0403/1128226-fall-in-co2-emissions-could-be-greatest-since-ww2/

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    Mute Mary Morrisey
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:19 AM

    @John Judd: No one denies climate change, only the affect humans have on it.

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    Mute Em Gee
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:02 AM

    Great. I might be able to leave the heating off for a bit longer and light the stove a bit later. It has been really cold this spring, I’m still wearing thermals and ski mid-layers indoors.

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    Mute Dara O'Brien
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    Apr 6th 2020, 12:04 PM

    Beautiful weather for a run along the river this morning. Definitely time for the BBQ and I’ll try out my first batch of home brew cider while I’m at it – May as well, not much else to do at the moment I guess.

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    Mute Ger
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:35 AM

    FFS

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    Mute The Great Cornholio
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    Apr 6th 2020, 10:39 AM

    throw on your shorts…

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    Mute Mary Morrisey
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:21 AM

    @The Great Cornholio: here’s hoping lose wind levels will allow us to feel that glorious warmth.

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    Mute Maximilian Wilde
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    Apr 6th 2020, 11:48 AM

    But, the weather is only sunny and nice 4km from my house at any given time. I can’t go more than 2km from my house. :)

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