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US President Donald Trump playing golf at his club in Doral, Florida David Walters via PA Images

'The best place to have it': Trump to host next G7 summit at his golf club in Florida

The announcement sparked immediate accusations of corruption from the opposition Democrats.

US PRESIDENT DONALD Trump has awarded hosting of the next G7 summit to one of his own Florida golf clubs, sparking immediate accusations of corruption from the opposition Democrats. 

The site picked by his administration from 12 possible US venues for the 10-12 JUne gathering next year is the Trump National Doral Golf Club, in Miami.

“We absolutely believe this is the best place to have it,” acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney told a news conference at the White House.

Jerry Nadler, the chairman of the powerful Democratic-led House Judiciary Committee called the decision “among the most brazen examples yet of the president’s corruption”.

“He is exploiting his office and making official US government decisions for his personal financial gain,” Nadler said in a statement vowing that Trump’s “latest abuse of power” would not distract from investigations into the Ukraine scandal engulfing the presidency.

Democrats are investigating Trump for possible impeachment over his alleged bid to pressure Ukraine into digging up dirt on election rival Joe Biden.

They were already probing Trump’s suggestion at the most recent G7 gathering in France in August that the next could be hosted at one of his resorts which they say would violate both the foreign and domestic emoluments clauses that are designed to shield a commander-in-chief from outside influence.

Asked if Trump was aware the choice of venue would inevitably raise accusations of impropriety, Mulvaney said he was – and had decided to go ahead anyway.

‘I was skeptical’

“We’re going to have it there, and there’s going to be folks who will never get over the fact that it’s a Trump property. We get that, but we’re still going there,” he told reporters.

“The president knows exactly that he’s going to get these questions and he’s simply saying that’s fine – I’m willing to take that.”

Mulvaney said Trump suggested Doral as a venue when his team initially gathered to go over a list of 12 possible venues.

He said Doral would put on the event at cost, which he claimed would be as much as half what it would be at other venues. But he gave no estimates of the cost or comparisons.

An important draw is the club’s size – 900 acres, including three golf courses, according to Mulvaney, who said all the foreign delegations and the press could be housed “on campus”.

“Listen, I was skeptical, I was I was aware of the political criticism we’d come under for doing it at Doral,” Mulvaney said. 

“That’s why I was surprised when the advance team came back and said this is the perfect location to do this.”

When he touted Doral at the last G7 in Biarritz, Trump brushed off critics who said he was pushing his brand and profiting from his office.

“It’s a great place. It’s got tremendous acreage, many hundreds of acres, so we can handle whatever happens,” he told reporters.

“It’s right next to the airport, meaning a few minutes away … plus it has buildings that have 50 to 70 units in them, so each delegation can have its own building.”

“They love the location of the hotel,” he said. “It’s Miami.”

© – AFP 2019

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:05 AM

    Now what religion would they be, I am really struggling to figure it out…..

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:07 AM

    @Paul: what difference does that make if he killed and injured people ??

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:07 AM

    @Paul: Its not a maths problem, they’ll tell you when they know.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:07 AM

    @Paul:

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:14 AM

    @Neal Ireland Hello.: the journal wait to see the headline which RTE use and the copy.

    We waited hours to find our the motives of the Hamburg one when they were know a lot sooner.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:23 AM

    @Paul: Download the RTE app then you won’t have to wait.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:36 AM

    @Ricky McCabe: That’s exactly what I’m sure the victim’s family are thinking.. More blood on Merkels hands one might say

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:36 AM

    @Ricky McCabe: if it is jihad related then thats two attacks in less than a weekend. all in public places too, slowly wearing down the local population and creating a state of fear, this along with all the sexual harassment is straight out of the jihadi handbook.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:12 AM

    @Paul: Germany has a population of over 82m. I’m sure these incidents/crimes happen regularly with a large population. A bit of perspective please.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:21 AM

    @Ricky McCabe: when a murder happens people like to know why, who, where, etc., so they can take steps to protect themselves. this basic human survival instinct has been around for thousands of years. PC cover ups have been around for a fraction of that time.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:24 AM

    @James Maloney: head in the sand…..

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:34 AM

    @Paul: Jihadism certainly works on you Paul. It’s like a Pavlovian response from you.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:03 AM

    @Paul: Lutheran?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 2:44 PM

    @Paul: with the up date this afternoon alot of the anti islamists are sketching their heads wondering where it all went wrong!!!!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 3:32 PM

    @Brendan Cooney: Are you pro islamist Brendan?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 5:00 PM

    @James Dolan: no James, pro truth! Something missing with ultra right and left wing groups these days, who insist on shouting out moderates. Which are you?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 6:44 PM

    @BrianMcB: an Iraqi Kurd to be precise. He also shot up his father-in-laws nightclub. And he wasn’t a refugee.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 8:22 PM

    It appears to have been an attack motivated by a personal feud instead of the destruction of Western civilisation.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:11 AM

    Do the bleeding heart brigade still not get it?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:29 AM

    @George Roche: would you not find it more appropriate to blame the person that pulled the trigger?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:30 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Did i mention blame, Dave?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:37 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    This may or may not turn out to be an Islamist terror attack, but if it is then the ‘bleeding heart brigade’ (as George puts it) should indeed shoulder some responsibility for opposing security measures that may have prevented it.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:38 AM

    @Avina Laaf: and when were those people given a chance to decide policy?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:42 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: so it’s all the Greeks fault really for creating democracy, or os it the Romans for creating a Republic? Oh who knows, let’s not blame the people responsible though. PS I’m going to go on record now and say the guy left the building with ammo to spare and therefore was targeting a specific person or people, I don’t think this was Islamic terrorism, it it very well could be.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:47 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: probably keeping ammunition to ensure martyrdom.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:01 AM

    @George Roche: I see you’ve jumped to your usual conclusions. Why would he need to keep bullets to ensure martyrdom? He didn’t kill himself

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:03 AM

    Not to shoot himself, Dave. To ensure a lethal response from the police. I’m not jumping to conclusions, I’m going out on a limb, like you :)

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:04 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: if a group is responsible for the mass importation of another group and then the group they welcomed in starts to kill people all over the place, then yes somebody needs to be held to account. I doubt the open border freaks are moping up the blood today or informing the family members of the dead. That supermarket attack, the victims were old people because they were too frail tio run, you know the people that worked all their lives to build something decent? only to be hacked to death by some freak from the Middle East.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:19 AM

    @neimad: the majority in Germany voted for the party that supports open borders and therefore I’d assume that there are people who believe in it in the police force and the ambulance services cleaning up today. I’ve already asked you nicely to stop replying to my comments and before you say it’s because of your opinion it’s not. It’s because of your insane distaste for anybody not white. Which you proved on two separate articles yesterday.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:35 AM

    @George Roche: you never fail to display hate and prejudice. Are you hard wired for those qualities at this point?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:37 AM

    @Tony Daly: Give it a rest, you plague.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:39 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: its an open forum, so stop acting like a little child that can’t handle any facts, you know zero about me and just your own conclusions to suit your agenda, and it would seem that you are just an apologist for anybody that does not have white skin. You cant go around calling people names and putting words in their mouths and expect no comeback. You want to control who comments on a forum then make your own.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:47 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    Wow Dave did you really need to scrape the barrel and play the race card on Neimid ??

    Unfortunately the fact are that this is mist likely an immigrant or disgruntled Muslim that’s carried out this attack.

    This is happening Dave whether you choose to accept it or not. Trying to dress it in any other form is just stupid. The open borders has not worked and can not work. The vast majority of immigrants coming in to Europe cannot Integrate because of their religious views and they see women as second class citizens. Now you may want to be kind to their plight and that’s a really good thing but they. Annoy accept us as we are and stay true to their Muslim faith.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:47 AM

    @George Roche: but I’m a white Christian Irishman. Lol!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:02 AM

    @Duncan: yesterday he compared black British people to immigrants and said they were incompatibile with western laws and codes of behaviour. What would you call that? Also the people with the most information on this shooting feel the terrorism motive is highly unlikely.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:11 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: no i did not, thats a lie. I mentioned similar behaviour from another minority group in Germany (forming large groups to try to overwhelm the authorities whilst playing the victim), you then came in with your racism card and tried to make me admit that I was some form of Nazi/white supremacist. You then avoided all the overwhelming facts about the issue and continued to personally attack me. Not only that but now you are trying to make it out like I am the one that is doing the harassing. Childish to the extreme.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:12 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    ” we’re not assuming it’s terrorism ” it’s a 34 year old Iraqi man.
    I’m afraid it’s harder not to assume it’s terrorism.
    I didn’t see the what Neimid wrote yesterday so I can’t comment on that. His comments today which I did see were not racist. They may not be PC but they were right in my view.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:14 AM

    @Vile Bigot Jake: zzzzzzzzzzzzz

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:17 AM

    @Duncan: I just made a comparison, a blatantly obvious one. The thing is that the likes of Dave are forever stating that we are all the same but cant handle the fact when somebody compares the black community in the UK to the migrant community in Germany. In other words, they will twist and turn their line of thought to suit themselves, especially when presented with the cold hard facts of the issue. I then told him that people like him make things worse by making victims out of minorities and that he was in fact the real racist. It would seem that people with dark skin are just allowed to behave as they please while us white people need to follow the law etc.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:30 AM

    @Clever Jake: You’re a gimp. Do you have a button on your keyboard labeled “bigot” ? Practically every comment you post contains that word. Change the record lad.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:31 AM

    @Clever Jake: Using flowery language incorrectly makes you look really dumb.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:40 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: if you can’t handle a reply you know you can just mute the person …

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:41 AM

    Avina Laff like what? Come on enlighten us as to what measures you would of put in place to ensure a mad man couldn’t pull a trigger in a nightclub. .Are you honestly saying this does not happen elsewhere?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:43 AM

    @neimad: did you not compare black British people to a group you said were incompatibile with western laws and codes of behaviour? And also on another article claim South Africa was better off under apartheid?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:48 AM

    @Duncan: did you not leave out the rest of the description of the alleged attacker? not an asylum seeker. Also still not thought to be terrorism related. But very good of you to assume so based on a nationality. Tell me when the last Iraqi terrorist attack happened in Europe

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:00 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Here’s a list of Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe in the last 3 years, there have been 40. If you don’t see a pattern then you must be blind or just wilfully stupid https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe_(2014–present)

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:03 PM

    @James Dolan: religion has not been confirmed, just nationality, do keep up

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:12 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I guess you’re in the wilfully stupid camp so. I’m keeping up, you are far behind.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:25 PM

    @James Dolan: I don’t know, you’re the one answering a question that wasn’t asked. How many attacks on your list were carried out by Iraqis?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:35 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe:

    Dave my little snowflake, if you slow down and read my response you should be able to see that I pointed out my reason for assumption. Give that the number of terror attacks in recent times and their link to Islamist extremism, it’s reasonable to guess that an Iraqi 34 year old might !! Just might have link to Islamic terrorism. I really don’t think that an unreasonable thought to have. It’s certainly not an accusation but an assumption. If I’m wrong then I’m ok with that but if I’m wrong that does not justify your snowflake aggression and accusing people of being racist.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:48 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I didn’t check but the nationalities of the attack is not relevant in the slightest. Nor whether or not they are refugees or migrants or natives. The ideological motivations are all that matters. Get with the program. I’m guessing that you are a troll. Why else would you be so impervious to common sense. Done talking with you. Thanks

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:53 PM

    @Duncan: he is not worth talking to, even if migrants let off a nuke in Europe he would still be calling everybody a racist for talking about the brown people that did it. He’s brainwashed beyond hope.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:00 PM

    @Tony Daly: Riiigggghhhtttt you and Dave O Keefe. Both of you plus a few others are on here 24/7 commenting on every article under the son. Dont think your troll site is even in Ireland. So let me be straight… neither of those names are your names. The account names are used ny a number of people to forward your lefty liberal jihadi apologist agenda. Would guesstimate your office is connected to one or a few of the lefty liberal political parties/entities/organisations in this country. Basically you’re organizations are frauds just like the names and besides my having a real job and not having the time to be on here 24/7 I generally do not respond to the shyte your troll teams shovel out on this and other forums.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:12 PM

    @Warthog: you’ve lost your mind. My account is genuine and it’s my real name. Unlike you.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:13 PM

    @James Dolan: well I guess you don’t think the religion of the attacker is relevant either considering that isn’t confirmed yet. Why make assumptions? One person killed in a crowded place, doesn’t sound like a maximisation of possible damage.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:33 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: well at this stage anytime anything explodes or there is a mass shooting, people immediately think of Muslims. I wonder why that is? Is it because they have brown skin or something? Or is it because they have a habit of doing it?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:33 PM

    @neimad: see now you’ve made an assumption about my beliefs again, I am by no means happy with current EU immigration policy. I Even said as much on yesterday’s article about the man who had his bid for asylum rejected. You’ve just decided that I must be because I don’t run around blaming brown people for everything. I believe that neither entirely closed nor entirely open borders are the solution.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:36 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: is it because they have brown skin or is it because they are known for doing it?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:46 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Are you aware that hundreds of thousands more are coming in and that the Italian state has a well oiled machine running that breaks them down into smaller groups, releasing them in small waves onto the mainland of Europe so as not to alarm the people whit the actual reality of the numbers? Why do you think the Austrians are beefing up their border? Can you not see the the EU is an illusion and remember that not too long ago these countries were blowing the living crap out of each other. Are you prepared to give up the benefits of Europe to house and look after millions of Africans and if you are young enough there is a high chance you might be drafted into the army, or your kids maybe?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 2:40 PM

    @neimad: throw in the word fundamentalist and I’ll agree with you. But as long as you characterise them as just any Muslim I won’t.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 4:26 PM

    @neimad: Wow,the Breitards are out in force today.Triggered snowflakes

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    Jul 30th 2017, 5:11 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Of course it is. You unemployed then?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 5:19 PM

    @Warthog: Dave O Keefe Your namesake posts more comments on here in an hour than most of us would post in a week. Therefore, think you need to get out more to obtain a more realistic and balanced view of the world. As with the amount of time your namesake spends on here it is hard to imagine how you even have time to go for a lash never mind sleep or get out!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 6:16 PM

    @George Roche: He was an Iraqi Kurd who shot up his father-in-laws nightclub. It wasn’t a religiously motivated terrorist attack. The Kurds, by the way, fight ISIS.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 6:33 PM

    @Noel James Doherty:
    I’m sure if you think hard enough you can figure it out for yourself…
    If not get back to me and I’ll try and spell it out for you.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 6:44 PM

    @Warthog: of course I’m employed. I don’t get it, I’m using my real name and expressing my opinion. You’re using a fake name and lying about me and others yet I’m the one that’s not being genuine.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 6:50 PM

    @neimad: wow, there’s a nice glimpse inside your mind. The worst case scenario isn’t the only scenario. Why have you now switched to Africans? The murderer is Iraqi. I’ve already said the current EU policy is ridiculous and way too lenient. Just because I’m not panicking doesn’t mean I agree with it. By the way I’d just like to add, how good is my prediction from earlier looking now? Have a bath or go for a walk or something, you need some balance in your life. Something happy, there’s way too much doom and gloom about you.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 8:55 PM

    @David Jordan: George won’t be back on this article, admitting he was wrong isn’t his thing so he definitely won’t admit that he was totally wrong.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 4:47 AM

    @Dave: Point out anything I said which was incorrect, Dave.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 8:04 AM

    @George Roche: “probably keeping ammunition to ensure martyrdom”

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    Jul 31st 2017, 8:16 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I stand by that.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 5:12 PM

    @George Roche: of course you do because like I’ve already said, you will never admit when you get it wrong.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:23 AM

    Cultural enrichment!….

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:18 AM

    @Kate Flaherty: The German Police have been following instructions from the leading politicians to absolutely try to avoid blaming immigrants for crimes in public. The media are just as bad. Seems like the politicians wish to control the narrative and the news media in a bid to control any backlash to Angela Merkel as she seeks her 5th or 6th term in office.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:31 AM

    @gregory: Sounds almost like a dictatorship doesn’t it?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:02 PM

    @James Dolan: There has always been this approach on control in Germany. German people should stand up for themselves and speak their mind. A bit of irreverance is a good thing f democracy. I’m all for managed balanced immigration just not uncontrolled immigration.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:32 PM

    @Kate Flaherty: “Cultural enrichment!….” very original comment these days

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    Jul 30th 2017, 2:32 PM

    @James Dolan:

    “Sounds almost like a dictatorship doesn’t it?”

    Well it is the EU after all James.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 4:25 PM

    @gregory: “German people should stand up for themselves and speak their mind” true but will never happen.. German’s nation have been attacked by Marxism and political correctness like nobody else.. its probably related to their WW2 history

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:31 PM

    @Tom Lecki: I agree good point but it was there before ww2. There is a tendancy to follow strong leaders w/o question in Germany, even when they’re wrong.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:33 AM

    Merkel out

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:50 AM

    @Ger Murphy: I’m afraid horses long bolted. But yeah I suppose the right leader could still minimise the damage a bit.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:51 AM

    @Tomasz Kuchnik: You’d certainly would cheer a right leader, preferably one with a Charlie Chaplin moustache, wouldn’t you

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:12 AM

    @Larissa Caroline Nikolaus: Larissa, can I ask you a German question? Where the spokesperson says “we are not assuming” (I’m assuming this has been translated), do they mean it like it’s written, that they’re just not assuming it’s a terror attack; or does he mean they are assuming it is not? Thanks!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:31 AM

    @George Roche: keep trying! Lol.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:09 AM

    Maybe he had “mental problems” as well.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:10 PM

    @James Halligan: It’s astonish just how many people with ‘mental health issues’ have come out of the woodwork to attack others, make improvised bombs, and launch sexual attacks on young girls – and boys in some cases. Who knew they were there all this time, hiding among us, and all it took for them to show themselves was for a million or so people from the Middle East to emigrate into Germany. Their Meatal Health Services must be shaking their collective heads in amazement.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 4:28 PM

    @James Halligan: his problem was that he hates non Muslims and white Eu people

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    Jul 30th 2017, 6:48 PM

    @James Halligan: he wasn’t a refugee. He shot up his father-in-law’s nightclub, it was a family dispute. He was an Iraqi Kurd.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:44 AM

    If we could only find a common denominator to all these crimes in Germany, hmmm what this could be…

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:23 AM

    @Tomasz Kuchnik: human beings.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:49 AM

    @Tony Daly:
    Human beings with bad ideas

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:28 AM

    @Maurice Bourke: the open door policy by the mad witch Merkel will destroy Germany. Too late to rectify the lunatic’s stupidity.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:32 AM

    @Gus Sheridan: so when is Germany going to be totally destroyed and why does Merkel supposedly want to destroy her own country?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:21 PM

    @Clever Jake: you’re describing the average Muslim right there

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:19 AM

    So this is not being labeled as a Terrorism Incident by the lefty Journal brigade so that means one thing a) It isnt a White Male behind this (They would be quick to label that a Terrorism incident if it was)
    b) it was most likely another “Mentally Ill” man who happens to be a Muslim.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 6:22 PM

    @Drogspur: he was an Iraqi Kurd who shot up his father-in-laws nightclub. It was not a religiously motivated terrorist attack. It was a family dispute. He was also not an asylum seeker.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 11:38 AM

    @Clever Jake: irksome liberal morons ate mentally unstable. Your username is an oxymoron btw. You as a person are just a moron too.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:26 AM

    This is what when the flood gates are opened without proper checks. Irish Government beware

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:27 PM

    @Alan Scott: Why are so many women being raped across the EU: Sweden, Germany etc oh yeah Merkel’s open door unilateral policy!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:48 AM

    Merkel has election in September. She’ll be worrying if these attacks continue.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:33 AM

    @Kevin Rooney: even when it is not terrorist motivated.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:09 PM

    @Tony Daly: Ya Tony, just an Iraqi with a gun in an night club shooting people..Nothing to do with an ideology that hates the west!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:54 AM

    Another muslim terror attack. More innocent people dead. And still apologists say dont blame Islam. Unbelievable. When will people wake up. We need to keep these Muslims out of Ireland at all costs. We cant allow Merkel to force terrorists inside our sovereign country.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:17 AM

    @JJ: I keep reading about all the murders, assaults and rapes committed in Ireland by Irish people we need to get the Irish out of Ireland at all costs. Also I hope if I’m ever shot in a nightclub it’s by a white christian, I’ll be so much less dead.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:24 AM

    @Francis Devenney: Are you just thick or blinded by a liberal bleeding heart philosophy? Sure we cant stop crimes and murders commited by anyone, sure Irish people in Ireland and German people in Germany commit murders and rapes, but in your flawed logic your saying lets invite more rapists and murderers? We have enough of our own criminals without inviting these animals in to the country and bending over backwards to help them.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:27 AM

    @Francis Devenney: AFP reported this is not terrorist related but still nightclub shootings are rare and in recent times you can’t really blame people for jumping to a certain conclusion, it’s a fair assumption with so many people dying because of a warped ideology!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:30 AM

    @Drogspur: What a load of BS coming out.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:33 AM

    @Drogspur: My post is for Francis
    Drogspur my apologies

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:38 AM

    @JJ: Like people blamed Catholicism when the IRA shot someone; or Protestantism when the UDA did???

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:39 AM

    @Paddy: Why is it a fair assumption? When the vast majority of violence is carried out by Europeans why would we assume that any given incident wasn’t till we have more information?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:42 AM

    @Drogspur: So we abandon the millions who aren’t rapists and murderers because, I can’t even think of a because.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:34 AM

    @Francis Devenney: Yeah so we are suppose to pay for and support new comers that are supposed to be refugees. Can you remind me of the last time that Irish men sexually assaulted, raped and robbed, thousands of women at a new years eve celebration? Remind me the last time that a gang of Irish people raped a girl in the middle of a city centre train station where she was then left pregnant and completely disturbed.
    Can you remind me of when Irish people lured a severely handicapped man in a wheelchair back to their asylum accommodation and gang raped him while filming it on their “iPad” to send it back home to their mates in Afghanistan? Oh and then make a case that its too dangerous to deport them and that they have their human rights.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:40 PM

    @Clever Jake: you are missing the point they are supposed to be refugees, it is becoming a regular thing in places like Sweden where a migrants rapes a girl and either films it or goes on social media to boast about it to his mates back hime, in the place the supposedly dangerous. If I have a rat in my house I don’t turn around and let more in, I deal with the one already in there.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 2:07 PM

    @Frank Cooney: Ok done a search and can find no such thing on any reputable source. You may find this interesting though.

    http://hoaxmap.org/

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    Jul 30th 2017, 4:38 PM

    @Drogspur: Poor Breitard snowflake,go to your safe place,and let the adults deal with this.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 11:37 AM

    @Seamus Mc Meel: what the fk are you in about you clown?

    I don’t read breitbart but I have the intelligence to spot what’s really going on across Europe unlike you you complete and utter bellend. If this discussion is best left for the adults why are you here throwing your liberal BS labels such as snowflake around? Moron

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    Jul 30th 2017, 9:07 AM

    A disgruntled patron, whose beer glass wasn’t fully filled no doubt!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:12 AM

    “The extremist and fundamentalist haters of Islam and of all Muslims are on a hair trigger this Sunday morning.”

    Why is it that Richard Dawkins gets cheered when he attacks Christianity in particular but gets banned from an event, (organised to debate his work), by KPFA radio in Berkeley (the home of free speech), California for criticizing Islam. Why is there an effective blasphemy wall erected around Islam?

    ‘We didn’t know he had offended and hurt – in his tweets and other comments on Islam – so many people.’

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:21 AM

    @TheoWolfe: Islam is just a more extreme version of Christianity. Criticise Islam but criticise Islam for the right reasons, the dogmatism, the irrational doctrinal elements but don’t indulge in generalised prejudice against Muslims.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:39 AM

    @Tony Daly:

    I think you totally miss the point. Criticism of Christianity, whether “generalised prejudice” or not is perfectly allowable, we see much of it on here, perhaps, from even one such as you. Criticism doesn’t have to be balanced, or right, it should not be banned in favour of one religion.

    Would it be “generalised prejudice” to state that most British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 7:00 PM

    @Frank Cooney: not like Tony not to reply maybe just maybe he agrees with ye!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:20 PM

    I’m kind-of thinking of fleeing this sinking ship that was once the great land of Europe. A place of culture, food and tradition. Now brought to its knees by the very liberalism that made it great. The European way of life is slowly changing to keep its newest citizens happy, citizens that depend on government welfare and only mix with their own. They build ghettos. They engage in criminal activity. Not all of course, but still too many. They have no respect for those who shelter them. No respect for those why try to befriend them. They show their gratitude by sectioning themselves off from society, by not even bothering to learn their new country’s language because they know an interpreter will be provided in most situations. It’s depressing to witness. Tourism to European cities will suffer, and eventually governments will run out of money. Riots will ensue, hatred will continue and it will be the white Europeans hopping into dinghies to cross the Mediterranean to Libya, hoping they’ll let us in.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:38 PM

    @Banana Rama: The problem is that Europeans have nowhere to run to, that is why we are facing an existential crisis.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 8:24 PM

    @TheoWolfe: I’m unconvinced that a personal feud is the start of of a real existential threat against Europe and European civilisation.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 8:11 AM

    @Tony Daly: If you have been following comments you should have noticed I have not been commenting on a single incident in isolation. Not even the sum of the atrocities over recent years. The existential threat comes from the broader dynamic of unprecedented movements of people, in unprecedented numbers. The demographic crisis is already upon us. In London 23 of the 33 boroughs are immigrant majorities and throughout Europe parallel communities are now commonplace, Malmo is lost. Native people are fleeing from the large population centres. If you cannot see this, you are either blind or willingly naive. Or perhaps an establishment plant, to mouth virtue signalling platitudes. In all but two of the European nations, the people want a total halt to immigration as a starting point to gaining control.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:03 AM
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    Jul 30th 2017, 8:24 PM

    @BrianMcB: engaged in a personal feud.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:00 PM

    “That’s the Muslim hating done this morning.”

    Here is an example, again, if one were needed to prove how far down the road of willing short sightedness the left indulges in.

    Any criticism, however mild, or valid, of any of their pet issues, is cast as hatred. The word has become so overused it has lost any semblance of its true meaning. If you are not totally on board with open door immigration, you are a hater. If you are not totally on board with ‘Pride’ you are a hater, the list is becoming extended daily, almost.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 8:25 PM

    @TheoWolfe: a personal feud was the cause not an existential threat against the future of Europe but alarmism plays best with those of a deeply and ingrained prejudiced outlook.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 1:00 AM

    @TheoWolfe: He was an Iraqi Kurd who who shot up his father in law’s nightclub. He was thrown of the club but returned armed, shot a bouncer and patrons outside the club. He was not an asylum seeker, he arrived in Germany in 1991. It’s also claimed he was a drug dealer.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 9:58 AM

    @David Jordan: So what? I have not commented on this individual incident or Islam in general. I address the broader issue of the collapse of western European culture, being hastened by the mass, uncontrolled immigration into Europe, at an unprecedented speed and unprecedented numbers.

    If you want to get hung up on Islam, and making excuses for its pre medieval values, go ahead. It is immigration in general, particularly from Africa and Asia that is the problem.

    If you think there is not a demographic problem caused by mass immigration and a European fertility rate of 1.7 then keep your head in the sand, it won’t bother you until you wake up one day and find that the values and society that made Europe the place that it has been, has disappeared.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:35 PM

    “German police said they did not believe that it was a terror attack.”

    then what was it ? He wasn’t doing it for a bit o craic anyway !

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    Jul 30th 2017, 1:38 PM

    @Caoimhín Mac Caisín: maybe they said it to trigger the right-wingers

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    Jul 30th 2017, 8:26 PM

    @Caoimhín Mac Caisín: a personal feud.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 1:00 AM

    @Caoimhín Mac Caisín: He was an Iraqi Kurd who who shot up his father in law’s nightclub. He was thrown of the club but returned armed, shot a bouncer and patrons outside the club. He was not an asylum seeker, he arrived in Germany in 1991. It’s also claimed he was a drug dealer.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:26 AM

    The comments posted by some commenters on The Journal are an effective encouragement of Jihadism. These comments demonstrate that Jihadism works on a certain segment of the population.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:32 AM

    @Tony Daly: I know, they just give terrorists an awfully bad name. You could try handing out free hugs.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:33 AM

    @Tony Daly: the only ones jihadism works on are the idiots who believe in that warped ideology, it’s that segment of the population your referring to!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:41 AM

    @Paddy: Jihadism needs to stir up a counter response.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:53 AM

    @Tony Daly: so would your suggestion be to accept, praise or ignore these acts of “jihadism”?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:15 AM

    @Gordon Nash: lots of hugs and love and positivity when they do wrong …

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    Jul 30th 2017, 3:44 PM

    @Clever Jake: Riposte, hardly! Simpleton, perhaps. Brethern? There you lefties go with the “hate” again.

    You lot just love that word, in a vain attempt to silence, because it is not backed up by anything except left wing bigotry.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 3:30 PM

    really???? please remind me the same or similar situation in Germany before religion of peace invaded Germany….

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    Jul 31st 2017, 1:15 AM

    @Tom Lecki: He was an Iraqi Kurd who who shot up his father in law’s nightclub. He was thrown of the club but returned armed, he shot a bouncer dead and injured patrons outside the club. He was not an asylum seeker, he arrived in Germany in 1991. It’s also claimed he was a drug dealer. I was not linked to religion or terrorism.

    His arrival in Germany coincided with the 1991 Gulf War, after the war Saddam Hussein attacked the Kurds. Some must have fled.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:40 AM

    Independent.co.uk is reporting that local police in Konstanz have concluded that the attack is not terrorist related and that the perpetrator was not an asylum seeker. The full facts remain to emerge but this does not look like a harbinger of the destruction of Europe.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:49 AM

    @Tony Daly: now reporting it is unlikely to be terrorist related.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:56 AM

    The destruction of Europe is well under way and does not turn on one, two or several murderous incidents like Berlin, Koln or elsewhere. The cultural suicide or more accurately, a genocide of European culture, is predictable and knowable and happening, as any objective evaluation of events will lead the student of these events.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-Europe-Immigration-Identity/dp/1472942248/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=3ZT173M369X1PGS7FBMH

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:02 AM
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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:22 AM

    @BrianMcB: an Iraqi citizen does not have to be and was not acting out of terrorist motives.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:27 AM

    @Tony Daly: I never said he was.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:30 AM

    @Clever Jake: “Bigoted journal machinations are a threat to Europe and the world :(”

    You will need to be more coherent, that statement means nothing to me.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 8:27 PM

    Is the destruction of Europe over yet? I’d like to put my head out for some fresh air.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 1:10 AM

    @BrianMcB: The perp was an Iraqi Kurd who arrived in germany in 1991. He shot up his father-in-law’s nightclub after he was thrown out. It’s also reported that he was a drug dealer. The crime had nothing to do with religion or terrorism. The Kurds in Iraq and Syria fight ISIS.

    Well you could say Germany should not have let in any Kurds into Germany after Saddam Hussein gassed the Kurds with Sarin and Mustard gas at Halabja in 1988 and later attacked them again after the 1991 Gulf War. They weren’t jihadis or fighting to overthrow their government.

    If Germany did not accept Iraqi Kurds, his father-in-law wouldn’t have arrived in Germany, opened a nightclub, that his son-in-law shot up around 30 years later, I suppose.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:48 AM

    That’s the Muslim hating done this morning.

    What group should be the next target of prejudice? Or will we just leave it with Muslims?

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:00 PM

    @Tony Daly: Look everyone up there in the sky…….its the virtue signal.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:02 PM

    @John Mc Grath: Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na, Twàtman!

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    Jul 30th 2017, 12:03 PM

    And what the fcuk was he doing so?out squirrel hunting,come on don’t be downplaying it.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:25 AM

    Should we do something like we did with NI.

    https://youtu.be/NswpCTliqxo

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:51 AM

    The extremist and fundamentalist haters of Islam and of all Muslims are on a hair trigger this Sunday morning.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 10:59 AM

    @Tony Daly: Troll

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:16 AM

    @James Dolan: he’s actually not …

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:24 AM

    @Suzie Sunshine: Ah he must be. Nobody is that insufferable and boring.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:44 AM

    @Suzie Sunshine: Is he from the Middle East or Far East ….. or paid by someone to deny the truth. He/She certainly seems to hate European indigeneous culture. Anyone who is genuinely concerned that mass immigration from Islamic countries will significantly change our culture forever is labelled a racist but in reality those who promote mass immigration are in a sense guilty of treachery (?). For thousands of years armies fought and killed each other in order to get to the point where homogenous population groups live together in defined areas called countries and to ensure the integrity and stability of the country there are border controls. At least until Merkel decided we dont need them, anyone can walk right in.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 8:28 PM

    @gregory: born and bred in Mayo. Still, facts no longer count.

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    Jul 31st 2017, 1:20 AM

    @gregory: He was an Iraqi Kurd who who shot up his father in law’s nightclub. He was thrown of the club but returned armed, he shot a bouncer dead and injured patrons outside the club. He was not an asylum seeker, he arrived in Germany in 1991. It was not linked to religion or terrorism.

    His arrival in Germany coincided with the 1991 Gulf War, after the war Saddam Hussein attacked the Kurds. Some must have fled to Germany.

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    Jul 30th 2017, 11:10 AM

    I’ll say it for you Veronica, ahem… Oh it was a man, big suprise! I’m a sexist little witch. blah blah blah blah. Patriarchy something something

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