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DONALD TRUMP HAS suggested it will be up to Europe to ‘make sure nothing happens” in Ukraine when it comes to security, after he said that Vladimir Putin would be happy to see peacekeeping forces on the ground in the event of a deal being struck to end the war.
The US’s role in any future deal is likely to be among the topics up for discussion later this week when UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer heads to Washington for talks, after he reiterated his calls for a US “backstop” to any deal.
It will be Trump’s second meeting with a European leader in days, following the visit of French President Emmanuel Macron yesterday, which was the third anniversary of Russia’s invasion.
In an interview with Fox News’s Special Report following their meeting, Macron said it was “feasible” to talk about the start of negotiations for a sustainable peace within weeks.
He said: “We want peace. And I think the initiative of President Trump is a very positive one. But my message was to say be careful because we need something substantial for Ukraine.
“I think the arrival of President Trump is a game-changer. And I think he has the deterrence capacity of the US to reengage with Russia.”
The transatlantic alliance on the conflict has been shaken in recent weeks by the President’s comments on Ukraine and attempts to secure a deal with Russia over Ukraine’s head.
Speaking from the White House about security guarantees alongside Macron, the US President said: “Europe is going to make sure nothing happens.”
French President Emmanuel Macron discusses his meeting with President Trump and Russia-Ukraine peace talks in an interview with @BretBaier on @SpecialReport. pic.twitter.com/0mCr4abIXm
— Fox News (@FoxNews) February 25, 2025
Earlier on, Trump had said Putin “will accept” peacekeepers. Starmer has previously said he would be willing to put British troops on the ground as part of security guarantees that could end the war.
Addressing reporters alongside Macron, Trump said of the Russian president’s reaction to peacekeepers in Ukraine: “Yeah, he will accept it.
“I have asked him that question. Look, if we do this deal, he’s not looking for world war.”
Earlier this month, Sir Keir wrote in The Daily Telegraph that the UK was “ready to play a leading role” in Ukraine’s defence and security.
“It also means being ready and willing to contribute to security guarantees to Ukraine by putting our own troops on the ground if necessary,” he said.
“I do not say that lightly. I feel very deeply the responsibility that comes with potentially putting British servicemen and women in harm’s way”.
Russian officials have previously said that Moscow will not allow Nato or European troops to be deployed to Ukraine as peacekeepers.
Trump also expressed hope that Volodymyr Zelenskyy could come to the US to sign a deal to give the US access to Ukraine’s critical minerals in the coming weeks.
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Why doesn’t he get a life and pay this charge? I’m sure Shatter will be on to him to pay this without delay also….
really doubt we have all the facts on this. Certainly would not trust the indo as a source.
The Indo is NOT the only source today that reports this.
Its reported in a number of major papers!
If you bothered to look, you would learn this – but I don’t think this would suit your attempt to just spin the matter and/or have a go at a paper in attempt to muddy the issue – would it?
Yawn…should I be surprised?
Of course not.
They are politicians.
Enough said.
HOLD ON JUST ONE MINUTE HERE!!!!!!! What the hell is James Reilly, Minister for Health doing answering for that gombeen Hogan for? Who f . . king asked him for his opinion. Hogan is big and bold enough to answer his own bloody questions! Or is it because he’s crying in the toilet and won’t come out because everyone doesn’t like him? Big thick! Both of them.
I have to pay EUR700 for my property maintenance charge in my home because Fingal bloody county council decided to allow developments have one main garden and a few bushes in it. I have to pay it or else there is a solicitor’s letter sent to me. I don’t have a choice. As you said to us Mr. Hogan, ‘just pay it – it would be very unpatriotic of you, not to!
The household charge is unjust, D4 residents paying the same and appreciating the local services they get from their finely manicured lawns and wide chiselled pathways… While those in pavement cracked Ballymun and Finglas wonder what local services they are being asked to pay (exactly the same) fee for.
However, many people are jumping on a false opposition here. It is well known that there is a lot of corruption in Spain and Portugal over property buying and maintenance, especially suffered by foreign owners.
So, while we can justly inveigh against Hogan for the unjustice that is the Household charge (an injustice he has consistently failed to recognize), it may not be fair to call him a hypocrite based on this news, until more evidence comes to light.
One rule for them another for us
Ouch!!!!
In my area the local council is in the red to the tune of €77million. Our own county manager is refusing to give grants over to disabled people who have applied and are entitled to Housing Adaptation Grants even though he has received the allocation from the Government. Yet again, it is the needy who are suffering. Who gave this county manager the right to withhold these funds is beyond me.
That 77 million in the red is just in my area and they reckon €160 million will cover the whole country?
Also, the fact that Mr Hogan is refusing to pay for services to his luxury penthouse apartment just reeks hypocrisy of the highest level.
As I have stated on boards.ie under the name “Biggins”:
FACT.
He owns a home.
FACT
He uses utilities there.
FACT
His home has charges upon it for those services.
FACT
He is refusing to pay for those services.
….Let the FG spin and bullschite continue upon these facts.
Howya biggins that debate is interesting been following it the past hour
What has this to do with you Rafa Benitez!!!
FACT
The debt he owes is to a mangement company and not a legislative obligation.
This guy has done enough to justify being sacked already, if only for those stupid photos and soundbytes. I don’t think it’s necessary to try and introduce something not remotely relevant to show him up. it just smacks of desperation
@Sean semantics, still doesn’t look good now does it.
@ Sean Beag
“…not remotely relevant” ???
Are you for real?
A BILL – A SERVICE CHARGE that is supposed to be paid upon a building that he makes the most out of.
A payment that is expected from him for same services that we at home in Ireland are also expected to pay – regardless of whom the money is payable to!
As expected and stated above, the FG spin continues… but it won’t go undisputed!
dont do as i do do as i say
It’s not a service charge, it’s an invoice from a private management company for a particular service, generally related to groundskeeping, security and maintenence.
The household charge is a government levy.
By saying they are related you are effectively saying that you can go into a shop and refuse to pay vat because one of the employees is late paying their ESB bill.
Its a BILL
…On a HOME
….for SERVICES to that home.
…That HAS to be paid
….ALL of which is similar to what the Irish people are expected to pay…
…Carry on with the useless blind spin though!
Seán Beag – if only he was so robust in his defense of the people of Ireland’s right to not pay private bank debt, as he is in his refusal to pay his own personal debt. Not another red cent indeed…
FFS Sean Beag
You have skin as thickas the elephant we saw running through the carpark in Cork. If nothing else I admire your tenacity to spin a story around this bullshit. ha ha ha ha !!!!!!
I’d prefer to have thick skin than to be so thick as to not understand the difference between a statutory charge and a contract.
Sean Beag
Do you know what it is to choose between paying the said statuary charge or feeding your family AND paying for your childs state exams fee (€116) So call me what you want ,My children will ALWAYS come first .
Where is youbetterpayup gone…. THIS TIME WE WILL ALL AGREE FOR ONCE
Give it time, jimbo. He’s charging his batteries !!
I was just thinking the same jumbo you beat me to it.
@Jimbo,
Maybe he just realised that he’s paid this EUR100 and is sorry after reading the headline on Hulk Hogan today! Hopefully he’s eating his words.
There are a good few of these delightful people missing lately ….. licking their wounds me thinks. The weekend of their ard fheis and they lose ,trying to get the elderly frightened and vulnerable to get them to pay €100 charge. Ha ha , and then big jim is speaking on big phils behalf as to why he is not paying his legal obligations ….You just could not make this stuff up . So all the little minnions are gone to ground .
The Journal only allows opinions from the Echo chamber
And don’t worry about Phil, he’ll be fine once we’ve finished counting out all dosh from those black sacks.
Come on Phil.. Don’t be bringing unwanted attention on the party. Just pay it off as an unvouched expense. Good lad.
but he is right, it is a different thing, however why pay a service charge for services you dont receive? the people outside urban areas do not have street lights, footpaths or council workers cleaning up their areas, they pay road tax for their cars and most towns now have paid parking, what services do they mean? the ministers holiday home isnt receiving acceptable services to justify the cost from a private company, i will pay the household charge when a footpath is built to my house, street lights are installed all along it and the council starts cutting the grass verge outside my wall, and before anyone asks i have my own well for water
For starters, you shouldn’t be living outside urban areas/villages unless you are working the land. Farmers get grant aid (REPS) for keeping the countryside clean.
i shouldnt be living outside urban areas? pray tell why? is there some kind of rule that non farmers shouldnt live in the countryside? i find that to be completely ludicrous, the farmers around here need to stop driving over the bit of grass outside my gate
totally agree, dont receive any service from the council, the past two winters when we were snowed in do you think we saw a snow plough or a gritter, not a chance we were left to fend for ourselves. Oh im not a farmer and i live in the country.
@revolting peasant – face up to the facts. Urban/sustainable dwellers are subsidising your rural existence. EVERYTHING in terms of services costs more to provide in the country. We’re tired of this bleeding heart nonsense.
Subsidising what exactly Brian?
R P
Ignore this person . Who says only people working the land should be living outside an urban areas. What complete and utter tripe. Daniel Dunne , why would you say such a stupid thing ? Ludicrous.
lol bleeding heart, talk about completely missing the point, sigh, whats the use?
The Sunday Independent’s Jody Corcoran reported that Hogan has been “annoyed” that details of a private matter had been disclosed and quotes him as saying: “Would you pay a charge if you were unhappy with the service?”.
No I wouldn’t Phil, thanks for the advice.
I must remember his advice when I get my next semi-state bill for my ESB electricity, gas bill and for my viewing of RTE on TV!
Cheers Phil!
I will also use his quote about refusing to take a voluntary pay cut.
This guy hogan is an uncouth oaf with the manners of boss Hogg.
Mr Reilly, I wont pay the household charge because I’m unhappy with the service we are being given by our government, the bending over and taking it in the ass service our leaders seem to excel at. When our leaders stand with their people and not with the bankers and technocrats of europe, then I will support them fully and with my life, otherwise a big F-off to Reilly and Phillo.
I think we have found the perfect excuse for when we face court,in fact its true i have not seen anybody out doing anything and i bet you all you wont see any council working doing anything tomorow or the next day.
A week ago when that tit o dowd was asked will the funds become available on the 31st march he said he did not know,he tried to avoid the question,so up your swiss hogan and co i will see you in court using your excuse..
yes William Ruane I agree 100% with you
And now knowing that part of the reason for his personal circumstances that prevented him from taking a 10% cut for the good of the country was a penthouse apartment in Portugal, come down to our level Phil and maybe then you might start to understand.
Josephine
I DON’T live in the country and during the snow, we had no water and our estate, in a fairly built up area in Dublin county, was a total ice rink for over a week, not a fucking sign of the council. Had to get out myself and try to break up the ice with a shovel. I don’t mind paying if I get a service…but it’s third world service and I’m not happy with that considering all the tax I pay already.
Thoroughly agree with you here. This man is so arrogant it is beyond belief he is still a Minister. What has he got on Kenny, that he has to ignore this pompous gobshite. Do the patriotic thing now Hogan, and fall on your sword, you ignoramus.
Keith Twamley
I understand what you mean when you say ”come down to our level ”…. etc ,I believe that you and me and almost every body else is way above his level …. We are the people , he is a blackguard. I would never want to be like him , I am a far better person and human being than he is , was or ever has been in my own opinion. He is a horrible individual.We MUST reign them in.
“If you are not happy with a service, would you pay for it?” we’ll mr. Reilly we are not happy with the service we are getting from your dept of health, so we should not pay our PRSI/ USC Household charge ect
You hit the nail right on the head there Aisling!
So he wouldn’t take a pay cut earlier in the year because he said he couldnt afford it and now he won’t pay this. Wtf is he doing with his massive salary and almost bottomless expense account. I paid my EUR 100, he should pay this!
Éamonn
I will never pay it and , this is why …Liars all of them.
Who can afford to take a pay cut.
Can’t afford to pay my property tax Phil because my circumstances won’t allow me..:):)
Good for the goose and all that .
I own my own apartment in a nice wee complex & I have been paying a service fee for last 17 years. I’m not happy with a few things but I pay up. We are paying ourselves to maintain our property. Pay up & take up your issues at your yearly A.G.M.
ha ha reilly defending the indefendsible what a joke….
No wonder he refused to take a pay cut what with trying to run multiple homes on his wages it’s not easy you should try it sometime…… sound like anyone we know?
Pee Flynn eile !!!
He’s dead right not paying, nobody should be expected to pay a charge on a house which only benefits a few developers and private institutions, I stand in solidarity with Hogan on this issue and refuse to pay a charge that will indeed only go into the coffers of already wealthy individuals or companies :P
Whats the Portuguese news papers going to say tomorrow?
“Irish state minister tell his people to pay their bills even if they have a dispute with it – but refuses to pay one himself!”
Should be interesting reading what the Portugal is going to think of this double standards!
Of course it’s a completely matter James … Refusing to pay money unjustly sought to a private company is different to refusing to pay money unjustly sought to a state organisation …
You’ve got to love the spin being put on this by FG and their cronies. Ah sure it’s not the same thing.. a tax is different altogether.
Fuck off! He is contractually obliged to pay the service charge on the apartment, and last time I checked; contracts were legally binding. I’m so glad that I have not paid the household charge.. now to put my feet up and enjoy the comedy unfolding in front of us.
Hollywood scriptwriters couldn’t make it up, eh ?!
There’s a good point..
Presumably when he signed this contract he was of sound mind and body and entered into the contract of his own free will.
The household charge required people to register – to give their consent to enter into this contract, which a large number of people have decided not to as it is a bridge too far.
So if anything he is MORE liable to pay this than those who did not register for the HHC, yet he pours scorn upon those who didn’t register..
Good man Phil, keep it up, only a politician could pull off that level of hypocrisy..
Aah, but he’s refusing to pay because he feels he has not received the service he’s paying for.
Exactly like the household charge then. :-D
Still no sign of youbetterpayup!!!!Gone into hiding like the rest of the fine Gael spoofers and trollers. Impossible to defend this double standard. What a shower we have running our affairs.
Nice to see your leading by example bully boy hogan!!!! Fascist!!!!
Afraid to face the truth he is
stopped reading after “with the exceptions of…”
Is this a Aprils fool joke as well. What a complete tool he’s so patriotic himself. Giving Irish people a bad name in Portugal, he has a neck like a jockeys bollix. Don’t register don’t pay this house hold up bully can feck off. With the wastage and all the other corruption that goes with all the politicians I don’t trust any of them anymore from any of the parties I think eliminate the politicians and bring in a phone/Internet voting system. Get rid of the middle men that are lining there pockets while the rest of us get poorer.
neck like a jockeys bollix
Lol i said exactly that on twitter…
Fine Gael you are a JOKE.
And what a bigger joke is LABOUR – pull that plug and save yourselves SOME face.
what a horrible profile pic! manure needs me? i certainly dont need them
Wow! GREAT comment. Have a biscuit. Go on, actually have two. G’lad.
i seem to remember you spouting much drivel about racist klan members etc, i would suggest it is actually you that needs the odd biscuit
So whats your problem? Oh! Youre a liverpool fan! :D
Try and keep your anti united digs in a football story, like i keep mine.
my problem is the vile flaming drivel you constantly spout
NO, your problem is you support Liverpool & you lost today, and last week, and the week before & you are JUST ABOUT safe from relegation so if youre looking for drivel its in Anfailed. Now Im pretty sure nobody on this thread wants to read MUFC fans handing your sorry over sensitive sore loser arse to you all day long so take it over to The Score or just shut it for good.
shut it for good? are you sure? am i to understand that you think you can tell me to shut up and i will? not exactly a cerebral juggernaut are you? i never mentioned football once, try rereading my posts, only you are talking about football here
Ahahaha what a joke you are. It was YOU who attacked my post, nothing football related but you had to insult my profile picture and use the term ‘manure’ so yes, please do us all a favour and either take it to the score or shut it. YAWN.
yes bwana i will do as you say zzzzzzzzzzz
:D whats even worse is you dont even realise how unbelievably childish & stupid you sound with your bitter try hard digs on a thread that has NOTHING to do with football WHATSOEVER, so for the 3rd time – take it over to the matchday thread on The Score and leave people rage at the government in peace (So to speak)
once again, i didnt mention football, you did, i didnt realise it was such a hard concept to grasp, or maybe it just is for you
Ok, you didnt mention football. I made it all up.
calm down! calm down! eh? maybe you arent able to read or something, no need to get all worked up lad
Oh. Dear.
oh dear indeed
Ah Mr Hogan sir,i think someone ran off with your moral authority if your quick you might catch him/her.You couldn’t make this crap up could you.
”The Sunday Independent’s Jody Corcoran reported that Hogan has been “annoyed” that details of a private matter had been disclosed”
Yet Phil the failure has no problem changing our Data Protection Laws so that he can poke his snout into our personal ”private” information.
Household Charge
More like Arsehole Charge.
Well said. HI SPRUIKER.
@ Hi Spruiker
Hear, Hear, two rules eh?! B . . t a r d s!
And let’s not forget this little gem of a story regarding Reilly and the tax breaks he avails of to maintain his 13 bedroom mansion – http://www.independent.ie/national-news/for-hire-ministers-taxrelief-mansion-2630237.html
Oh god, enough to make me sick!
And the alleged spat with a bank debt which ended with a consented judgement
“Would you pay a charge if you were unhappy with the service?”. Phil Hogan. No, Phil, I wouldn’t and I won’t!!
Hogan knows he is safe in his role he had Enda’s back when the heave against him two years ago as is Reilly, this guy is running with himself he seems to be untouchable, if this was the UK he would be made to resign or forced out by a cabinet reshuffle! We are going to be screwed over by this crowd for another 3 years God help us!
@ Mac Ready
Great comment, you’ve hit the nail on the head. EK is ‘firewalled’ by these 2 mouthpieces for the moment, incompetence surrounded by ineptitude.
@John It is NOT incompetence, you know….. It is all quite deliberate. Adept at feathering their own nests and robbing ours, they also feather their cronies’ nests. Two different worlds, theirs and ours; two different laws.
Just amazing!!!! No mention of this topic on the news at 6 on RTE.
Control of the state media by gag order. Very interesting!!!! Fascism at its best. Anyone who was looking for proof of what we are dealing with need look no further. Disgraceful!!!!!!
Typical RTE being ultimately kissing ass to the government of the day.
Nothing new here.
@Unitedpeople Ireland
RTE know exactly what they are doing and what they did. They knew about Hogan and his penthouse in Portugal. They did the same during the Presidential election. They wanted M D Higgins and they went out of their way to get him there. The tweet was done on purpose. They were in a sweat because Gallagher was so close, they had to find something/or make up something to stop him. They knew McGuinness wasn’t going to make it but they needed Higgins to win.
Nothing new with RTE or the Sindo. David Norris, during the RTE debate thanked McGuinness for his part in the Good Friday Agreement. The Sindo was so pissed off with him, that Sunday two day later, and four days before the voting took place, they had a two page spread on the Presidential election. The candidates photos and reports on their experience in life and politics were on these 2 pages. The only candidate that was NOT in the report was David Norris. Very unprofessional and very childish!
This says it all and is spreading across the net: http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8370/signals.jpg
Spreading like the plague and their better be a head rolling tomorrow but maybe we should hold n just in case it’s an April fools :-)
No joke – the original comes via a VERY serious political source who are also in no mood for joking over this issue.
For those with Facebook access: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1133356920
This is disgusting..who is she, anyone know?
Nothing wrong with that it sums them up to a tee….
Bins were not emptied last week, paid for service.
Not going to get anything in the country for household charge so why do we have to pay Hogan?
Obviously its a case of don’t do as I do, do as I say!
I think Phil is lucky, imagine if this came out in yesterday or Fridays papers,i think the numbers registering might be different.The Indo done you a favour Philly boy.
On Thursday, 2nd February, this year the Chairman of the Committee of Public Accounts raised the issue of the Poolbeg Incinerator for debate. To date, you and I and all the other taxpayers in Ireland have shelled out €76.9 million on that debacle. But, as the Chairman pointed out, we do not have any powers, not a single watchdog body or all-powerful auditor or office to check up on how local government and Departments spend our money.
Councillors, both the knee-benders intent on their own promotion and those honestly trying to represent the people who elected them, are utterly without powers of investigation. That €76.9million, call it €77million, has been levied on the four Dublin Councils:
Fingal
South Dublin
Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown
Dublin City
Even if every householder in Ireland were to pay up, the full €160million would only cover half of last year’s Dublin Council tax trashing.
In other words, anyone in Ireland with half a brain can see that the household charge is going to need more noughts on the amount levied on all of us next year if we pay up without demanding transparency on how it’s being spent.
There is the fairness issue of people who bought in the boom and paid hugely unjust levels of Stamp Duty now being levied again and there’s the fairness issue of people stuck in ghost estates and there’s the issue of people who saved and scraped to buy properties for rent as a ‘pension’, but let’s forget compassion. It’s not in the vocabulary of government power just now and hasn’t been there for a long time.
We need an auditor. A watchdog body that brings all local Government and Government Departments under scrutiny for where and how taxpayers’ money is spent. Until that happens I’m voting “No” to anything and everything proposed by the ruling Government Parties.
Apples and oranges are both fruit, pal.
One grows here and the other in Portugal.
What a muppet, I bet you his is mad now at journalists so they have found out and at his schoolboy error, bad press he is getting now probably worth spending 40K never mind 4K. This government is rotten is there any 1 honest and decent and not robbing politician?
U can add hypocrites & double standards to that, too. Let’s finish it off with the “don’t do as I do. do as I say” philosophy.
…Or in his case “Do as I say but as I don’t do!”
…”I don’t pay a charge”
Glad to hear it Phil – either will we, ya schyster!
”The household charge is a state charge by local authorities. This matter of Minister Hogan and a private company that provides services to the property he owns in Portugal is a civil matter between him and a private company.” how rediculous the only difference here is that the money he owes is ACTUALLY for services rendered unlike our household charge.
or are they finally admitting that this ”state charge” has nothing to do with services and that is why you cant compare them.
That doesn’t really hold up tho because when you sign your contract to buy a property in a multi unit development it states that you must pay your service charges. As someone said before, he would have signed this, volunteering to be bound by it. It is a legally bound contract so the FG spin is as usual, Horseshit!
Jesus. He’s an awful scumbag not paying his way! Sure his lot would complain about paying anything. Spongers and parasite!
I completely agree with Phil. You should not have to pay for poor service, which is why I will not be paying the household charge.
It just goes to show that these politicians really are living in cloud cuckoo land – a penthouse holiday apartment in portugal? people here are struggling to pay mortgages on their family home.
At different times in history, both England and Russia had a Beard Tax.
Perhaps Ireland should try it. Over to you James Reilly!
United People of Ireland
“That photo says it all” What a shower of tramps. Their day will come too. Only a matter of time!!!!!!
Strange the lack of any FG members on this thread….
Wonder why?
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
Any regrets?
Sindo awful pri@ks sitting on this till today? Imagine had it come out few days ago?
Anyway. How are you after your scuffle with Phil yesterday. Lmfho
still feelin molested,
and can’t shake the image of enda leanin over me
with that ‘come hither handsome’ look in his eye :-)
Read it out on the train on the way home. You’re a fuckin panic
Consider yerself lucky necroPHIL did’nt get his slobbery chops all over yer cojones.
Thanks John!!
I won’t sleep tonite with that one in me head! :-)
Lol
@ Reada Quinn
They had this information days ago and decided to hold on to it until today! Nothing new, they do this kind of thing all the time. Sad really, I am sure there are many people that are sorry they paid before midnight last night.
Disgusting behaviour by not just Hogan/Fine Gael but by the media, Sunday Inde.
The Journal does not allow dissenting opinions.
F-me I really thought was an apr1 joke , now i wish it was……oh Ireland what have u done to deserve gobsheens like this…..
Wonder what color the sky is in Hogan and O’Reilly’s world? ‘Cos it’s not the one the rest of us live in!
Philip Hogan, yet another Minster for hypocrisy and double standards. He bullies the public with various threats while most of those who wrecked the economy live charmed lives. Anglo collapsed almost four years ago but criminal investigations are stuck in slow motion. But any unfortunate failing to pay the house tax will feel the full weight of the Law and political opprobrium. Always the same old story, chop off the low hanging fruit.
great comments looks like Phil theShit is in the Shit himself now theyre all stinkin bastards anyway
lynch the rats
hypocrisy
Sums it up perfectly!!!! Couldn’t have Said it better myself!!!!!!
why are ye all so worked up about this. its clearly an april fools. as if the man could introduce a household tax in our country and not pay for services on his holiday home, nobody could be that foolish, ignorant, idiotic, hypocritical, not even phil hogan could stoop to this. or could he?
If hogan go’es after the people who have not payed the house hold charge do you think that FG will get back in the next general election. 750+ thousand people is a lot of votes.
A case of “Pot, Kettle & Black , Springs to mind.
He’s a Hypocrite, End Of ……
I am not pleased with my local council – the grass at the front of the house hasnt been mowed for ages – I am not paying the E100
Well don’t pay it so whats the big deal.
Marie Antoinette did something similar by her famous quote, “Let them have cake”.
They did David-they took her head!!..:-)..
Although she actually said let them eat brioche. At the time there was a grain shortage which meant that brioche, due to its butter content, was more economical.
Which, of course, has nothing to do with Phil “Do As I Say, Not As I Do” Hogan.
Never cease to amaze… The double standards!!! You couldn’t make stuff like this up.
I had a quick look at the set up in Portugal for apartments- Phil is saying the €4000 is for “management fees”. However, they are normally called “community fees” and set by a committee of owners in the community .
But your right Susie
@Sean Beag,
Smacks of desperation alright when he has to get big James Reilly to speak for him. Sad. Tell him to come out of those toilets and stop hiding. Just drop the household charge, pay his own and we’ll all sit around the table and sort this properly, together, without being told that we are being ‘unpatriotic’ and that we don’t have a life.
I have no problem in paying for something if it is explained properly, and I’m asked, and not told, and that we are treated like equals. Doesn’t matter what you or Hogan calls this property payment he hasn’t paid. I have to pay EUR700 for my property maintenance here, because we all have to agree that we need the dam grass cut and the bushes trimmed. The Fingal Co Co allowed these type of complexes to be built and yet we end up paying for their decisions, once again.
You couldnt invent these characters for a soap opera & they manage to get elected. We the Irish electorate have a lot answer for.
Whats this we business?
Seems there 2 of him. ..
The bollocks
Its is a disgrace that someones private business was published by a national newspaper.
The man is entitled to privacy.
This is a private dispute with a management company which is nothing to do with paying a tax.
Its like comparing your road tax payment with owing a mechanic for not fixing your car properly.
But of course, the army of moaners don’t want to hear that.
…Nor do his blind supporters want to hear that he says one thing at home and refuses to cough up himself abroad!
Some example he is setting too!
As to privacy – LOL – don’t make us laugh.
He isn’t concerned about privacy when it comes to dipping into EBS bills to gleam personal data off others is he?
MORE hypocrisy and double standards!!
Sorry pal but he is in the public eye and wether you agree or not his actions and behaviour will be examined by the media.Phil pay your charge please.
@ DublinNaas
Cop on will you. He is a public figure, laying down laws for others. Then there’s another for them that is in power. A little power is a bloody awful thing to have, because you begin to believe that you are entitled to more than your people that elected you, to represent them.
It’s public information whether you or he likes it. If he doesn’t like it he knows what to do. There’s enough pens and paper in his big office to write his resignation on! Tomorrow hopefully!
Cheap journalism from the Sindo. All the high horses on this thread would be better served paying the charge that the law abiding of us have just paid. We are all in this together my ass.
When i see big Phil’s receipt i’ll consider paying
Both issues are the same despite what Dr. O’Reilly spins. It’s tine for Hogan to go, for the sake of the country and the party.
The matter is not just in the Indo’ – its in a number of todays papers – but nice try!
@gingerman no matter how high my horse Phil will be still looking down on me from his penthouse.Com’on Phil pay your charge.Oh but this is fun.
Never broke the law in my life but I’m willing to do it this time…. Enough is enough!! I stand strong by this
I’m law abiding, just not gullible enough to believe the spin on where this HHC goes or servile enough to follow every direction a hypocritical out of touch government tells me to do..my horse is high enough to see you and Phil hogan sitting in your ivory tower gingerman.
It’s a sign of really poor jourmalism that a newspaper would try and compare Hogans dispute with management fee with the household charges. They are chalk and cheese. There are plenty of people who are in dispute or witholding management charges but are paying the Household charge (and vice versa). The two are entirely different.
I presume that there’s some Irish connection at the complex in question.
Yeah! Maybe NAMA are trying to get a judgement on it.
Brian Daly
Are you having a laugh ? Don’t even try to talk your way out of this one ….. Big Phil has made a boo boo…
Don’t ya just hate those charges on your holiday homes. He’s some tool
HAPPY FOOL’ S DAY EVERYONE
H A P P Y FOOL’S D A Y EVERYONE-
Phil hogan has a flawed pedigree when in government last time, and now the arrogant man is also refusing to allow any investigation in planning problems in his own area council.He should reflect that he has the luxury home on Portugal .We got rid of the Sapranos and now we have have the Russian Mafia ,I rest my case and labour have been neutered again.
DoBe56
We all need to Lash These Corrupt Whitewash Politicians out by Getting Rid of the Evil Corrupt Politicians and Liars and cheats by sending them a real Democracy Election by Voting them out complete, Like FG, LB, FF, SF, and GP, and PD , Losers the mafia Thieving Gangsters,
You couldnt invent these characters for a soap opera & they manage to get elected. We the Irish electorate have a lot answer for.
Byron Smith
Surely you ment HERR ENDA KENNY
SHAME ON YOU PHIL HOGAN
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