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President Vladimir Putin addressing the nation yesterday as he announced his decision to recognise two Moscow-backed rebel regions. Alamy Stock Photo

Ukrainians in Ireland left 'worried and angry' after President Putin's speech

In his speech, Putin said Ukraine had never had a tradition of genuine Statehood.

UKRAINIANS LIVING IN Ireland watched in disbelief last night as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin announced his decision to recognise two rebel regions as independent from Ukraine and claimed that the entire country had essentially never been a State.

“Putin made it explicit – he thinks Ukraine should not exist,” Igor Brigadir told The Journal. “He didn’t just rewind the clock back to the USSR where individual republics were recognised, he went back to the idea of a Russian Empire, where there are only colonies ruled by Russia.”

In his speech, Putin said it was necessary to take a long-overdue decision to immediately recognise the independence and sovereignty of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

He then went on to say Ukraine had never had a tradition of genuine Statehood.

Brigadir, who is from Ukraine, said for him this statement reaffirmed that Putin’s actions were never about the threat to Russia if Ukraine joined NATO.

“It was always about Russian imperialist goals and [how] the very idea and existence of Ukraine is an affront to Russia,” he said.

Brigadir, an adjunct research fellow at University College Dublin (UCD) moved to Ireland with his family almost 25 years ago, but like other Ukrainians in Ireland he has been keeping a close eye on recent events.

“The threat from Russia was always very real in Ukraine, that was a constant,” he said. “Until yesterday, when things took a turn for the worst, it was as calm as it would normally be, given the constant threat of war.”

He said that from what he hears from Ukraine people are “no more worried or frightened than before”, but the rapidly deteriorating situation has put them on edge.

“Ordinary people are still going to work and school – life does not stop,” he said.

“This was reflected by the president’s calls for calm that went contrary to the US intelligence warnings, which many misinterpreted – the goal was to maintain calm internally and not sow unnecessary panic.

Recently however, some people say they have taken extra precautions – taking first aid classes, making sure they have ID with their blood type etc. Among ordinary people, there is an awareness that when Russia attacks, they will have no qualms about bombing civilians – a trend that keeps repeating: [we saw it in] Grozny in the 90s, Georgia in 2008, Ukraine in 2014, Syria since 2016, and now the threat is on Ukraine again.

He said friends and family in Ukraine are “resolute” and have told him support for joining the EU and NATO has accelerated recently. 

“More and more people are making the effort to switch to speaking Ukrainian as opposed to Russian,” he said. “The issue of language is something Irish people may find familiar. Like Irish, Ukrainian language and culture was actively repressed and Russian was promoted, in the same way as the British did in Ireland.”

Yuliya Shilnikova, a music teacher who moved to Ireland 16 years ago, said she did not get much sleep last night.

“Who could sleep after that? It’s quite difficult,” she told The Journal. “President [Volodymyr] Zelenskyy told people in Ukraine not to panic, he said they’ll try to keep peace as long as possible. Hopefully we can avoid war but we never know what will happen.”

Following Putin’s speech, she said Ukrainians both at home and abroad were “worried but at the same time very angry”.

“What’s happening is that someone just wants to get Ukraine’s territory and they want to say it never existed,” she said. “We have our own culture, we have our own language and our own traditions.”

Shilnikova said family she has spoken to in Ukraine are taking a pragmatic approach to the situation. 

They can’t panic, they have to live their lives. They haven’t anywhere to go anyway, people have settled, they have their homes. People already got used to Russia being in Ukraine for the last eight years, at least now everyone knows Russia is there, it’s clear.

Irish and international support

Igor Brigadir said he would like to see Ireland open up more to Ukrainian citizens, particularly as the situation escalates and they face potential conflict in their country.

He said that when he arrived in Ireland as a child with his family, they experienced the “entire length and breadth of the Irish system, from asylum seeker to naturalised citizen; from primary school and surviving on child benefit, all the way to a PhD; working, happily paying my taxes, knowing that for us the system worked exactly as intended.”

He said Ukrainians with temporary residency permits can usually manage to get visas for friends and family to visit Ireland, but “unfortunately, Irish naturalised citizens find this impossible – they instantly get rejected”.

“The reason cited is that there’s a danger they’ll work here illegally,” he said. “This is why we couldn’t have our 80-year-old grandfather visit – because apparently there’s a risk he might work here illegally.”

Shilnikova said her ask from the Irish government would be that it pushes the diplomatic route.

“We just want to try to keep peace as much as possible,” she said.

She is concerned about the direction the international response may take in the coming weeks and months as she does not want people in her country to be harmed.

“Even if America supports Ukraine, it could be war and we want to avoid that because it would be on the territory of Ukraine and there could be a lot of deaths. With all of these weapons, it would be a terrible and if we have war in Ukraine it would bring everything backwards, the economy – everything.”

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 6:23 PM

    It seems to appear that he could be mentally unstable?

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 6:27 PM

    @Richard Ahern: He didn’t seem too steady in fairness.

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 6:29 PM

    @Richard Ahern: Might of had a feed of vodka in him.

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 11:19 PM

    @Richard Ahern: Where does he appear to you unstable, in The Journal photo? Did you see his entire speech? Can you share a link?
    From few very short extracts, all I can conclude is that he doesn’t read from a prompter. Is that why he’s unstable?
    I would really like to hear (subbed) all he had to say. But all I can find is what I have to think about what I didn’t see. I was hoping you will help with your source.

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 6:57 PM

    The russian ambassador to Ireland should be removed. He talks out his behind and lied to Irish politicians.

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 7:43 PM

    Where’s all the Putin shills spouting their Russian rhetoric now, “Of course Russia will not invade Ukraine, Emperor Putin gave his word, didn’t he?”

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 8:13 PM

    @Boyne Sharky: Russia does not want that Naziridden bankrupt basket case. It has what it wants.

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 9:30 PM

    @Kieran Woods: The one he’s currently occupying the Eastern areas of and surrounding the rest of it with 150,000 troops. Right…

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    Feb 23rd 2022, 5:01 PM

    @Kieran Woods:

    “Naziridden bankrupt basket case. It has what it wants.”

    The same “Naziridden[sic] bankrupt basket case” that elected a Jewish President?

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 6:08 PM

    No Ukrainians here should fear a backlash.

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 11:19 PM

    @Anna Carr: doesn’t mean they can’t be absolutely terrified for any of their loved ones back in Ukraine. If it was me I’d be struggling to sleep with the way things are

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 6:31 PM

    Whatever happens next is anyones guess but one thing is certain, Ukraine will never join NATO.

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 6:31 PM

    @Munster1: that’s for Ukraine to decide not Russia

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 6:35 PM

    @alan scott: No it’s for NATO to decide and they wont let them join with Russian soldiers on their land.

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 11:30 PM

    @alan scott: Apparently Ukraine can decide by itself to join EU too very soon.
    https://insiderpaper.com/ukraine-minister-urges-eu-to-promise-future-membership/

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 7:18 PM

    Sanctions are not enough. Where are the Avengers?

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 7:58 PM

    @Craig Barry: The Avengers are not enough. Where is Team America?

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 8:24 PM

    @Handsome McWonderful: Team America not enough, where is Frank Drebbin?

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    Feb 22nd 2022, 11:02 PM

    Russia recognising two republics that have been threatened by Ukraine we tend to forget the Russian separatists don’t want to be under Kiev rule especially if it means being part of the NATO camp.

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    Feb 23rd 2022, 5:01 PM

    @andrew: Like the Loyalists in the north, yeah?

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