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Students at a Fridays for Future march outside the COP25 climate talks yesterday in Madrid. Manu Fernandez

UN climate talks run into overtime, with best results set to fall short of recommendations

The aim of the negotiations is to finalise the rulebook for the 2015 Paris climate accord.

UNITED NATIONS CLIMATE negotiations were deadlocked deep into overtime last night, with even the best-case outcome likely to fall well short of what science says is needed to avert a future ravaged by global warming.

The COP25 summit in Madrid arrives on the heels of climate-related disasters across the planet, including unprecedented cyclones, deadly droughts and record-setting heatwaves.

The summit began on 2 December and the talks were supposed to end yesterday evening, but were still under way early this morning, with new statements expected to be released in the coming hours.

Scientists have amassed a mountain of evidence pointing to even more dire impacts on the near horizon, while millions of youth activists are holding weekly strikes demanding government action.

16-year-old activist Greta Thunberg led student marchers in Italy yesterday, and chastised world leaders for acting “as if there is no tomorrow”.

Briefing journalists as talks sailed past their provisional deadline, host Chile’s coordinator Andres Landerretche admitted “the eyes of the people are on us”.

“We must show the world that we are capable of delivering the agreements that are needed to tackle the unprecedented challenge before us,” he said.

Tensions between poor, climate-vulnerable nations and emerging giants such as China and India – the world’s number one and number four emitters - were part of the process being blocked. 

spain-madrid-cop25-green-motto Visitor walking past bins made from paper at the COP25 in Spain. Xinhua News Agency / PA Images Xinhua News Agency / PA Images / PA Images

Deadlock

The aim of the Madrid negotiations is to finalise the rulebook for the 2015 Paris climate accord, which enjoins nations to limit global temperature rises to “well below” two degrees Celsius.

Earth has already warmed by one degree Celsius, and is on track to heat up another two or three degrees by 2100. 

But “raising ambition” on emissions remains the overarching goal in Madrid and especially next year, when Glasgow will host the last climate summit before the Paris treaty becomes operational.

The draft Madrid agreement under negotiation, which must be approved by consensus, lays out two options.

The first – favoured by nations reluctant to enhance their targets in the short term, including the US, India, China and Saudi Arabia – simply repeats language in the 2015 treaty.

But a group of more than 80 poor and climate-vulnerable nations backed by the EU are insisting on a stronger commitment from all.

“[We] will not walk away without a clear call for all countries to enhance their ambitions,” said Marshall Islands climate envoy Tina Stege.

“On ambition, this will be the key fight tonight, and probably well into tomorrow,” said Alden Meyer, policy and strategy director at the Union of Concerned Scientists.

‘Red line’ for the US 

Another potential deal-breaker is so-called “loss and damage” – how countries already counting the cost of the climate emergency can be compensated.

The United States, which is leaving the Paris agreement, has aggressively blocked any provisions that might leave them and other developed countries on the hook for damages that could total more than $150 billion (€135 billion) per year by 2025, observers and diplomats have said.

“This is a red line issue for Washington,” said Meyer.

“There can be no acknowledgement of the need for additional finance because that would push the button of a certain man in the Oval Office.”

Some countries historically aligned with the emerging giants China, India and Brazil over the course of the 25-year talks broke rank this week. 

In a statement, the Association of Small Island States coalition accused Australia, the United States, Canada, Russia, India, China, and Brazil of “a lack of ambition that also undermines ours”.

The talks received a shot in the arm Friday after the EU pledged to make the bloc carbon-neutral by 2050 despite the refusal of Poland – a major emitter – to sign on.

But the EU Commission stopped short of setting a crucial intermediate target of reducing emissions by 55% or more by 2030.

The UN said this month that in order for the world to limit warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius, emissions would need to drop over 7% annually to 2030, requiring nothing less than a restructuring of the global economy.

In fact, they are currently rising year-on-year, and have grown by 4% since the Paris deal was signed.

“It’s basically like what’s happening in the real world and in the streets, the protesters, doesn’t exist,” said Meyer.

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    Mute Harry Meany
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    Nov 12th 2021, 4:53 PM

    Nightclubs can stay open, not a problem. Big weddings, sporting events and concerts, not a problem. No testing in schools, not a problem. But people going to work will spread covid????

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    Mute Roy Dowling
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    Nov 12th 2021, 4:45 PM

    Absolute joke. They haven’t a clue what they are doing.

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    Nov 12th 2021, 4:42 PM

    So they are not supporting Antigen testing, aka “snake oil”.
    This crowd need to be out to pasture.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Nov 12th 2021, 6:26 PM

    @a: Antigen testing as a first check solution is ok but 2 a week should catch the virus. They are not accurate enough for a single test decision maker.
    they are 50% right but also 50% wrong.

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    Mute Jacqueline berry
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    Nov 12th 2021, 8:09 PM

    @Gary Kearney: They were spot on for my household. Anyone who was positive and negative came back so with an antigen test.

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    Mute Pablo Rojas Coppari
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    Nov 12th 2021, 4:46 PM

    The highest incidence is among children of school-age. Would the science not say that this is where the chain of transmission shoukd be stopped? Or just not palatable message?

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    Mute Mike Dé Vere
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    Nov 12th 2021, 5:46 PM

    @Pablo Rojas Coppari: I’m a teacher with covid and the HSE contacted my close contacts but not my school.

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    Nov 12th 2021, 5:00 PM

    Last week we told vast majority cases were 5 to 12 year old, so clamp down on pub certs, hair dresser, gyms..office, All the places 5 to 12 year olds frequent -)

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    Mute Wiggit93
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    Nov 12th 2021, 4:46 PM

    Working from home doesn’t suit everyone. We’re more than 18 months into the pandemic and for people without families and a long commute working from home is very isolating and is putting a strain on mental health

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    Mute Paul Cunningham
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    Nov 12th 2021, 4:50 PM

    @Wiggit93: the long commute in gridlock and waste of time heading to cities also wrecks mental health. Talk about a placeholder term you can put into anything to try and make your argument.

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    Nov 12th 2021, 5:32 PM

    @Paul Cunningham: Im not saying get rid of working from home but its more fair to give the option of either or and people can then do what suits them best. It keeps going back towards working from home as being the only option

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Nov 12th 2021, 6:29 PM

    @Wiggit93: Well use the time on your commute to work on keeping your health good phyisical and otherwise. exercise, meet people outdoors. It works wonders.

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    Nov 12th 2021, 8:18 PM

    @Gary Kearney: remember only meet up with half of the people your planning to meet

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    Nov 12th 2021, 4:55 PM

    It’s as plain as the nose on ones face that this shower haven’t got a clue what they’re doing or what they’re supposed to do. Just more making stuff up as they go along. Beggars belief.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Nov 12th 2021, 6:31 PM

    @Robert Clifford: You do with the same they dont know what they are doing no matter what the numbers are. If it is going well it was not them that did it. If its bad like now it is because they have no clue of what they are doing.
    Big SHOCKER, Nphet dont spread the virus, people do not following their advice.

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    Nov 12th 2021, 5:49 PM

    NPHET low key admitting that the vaccines don’t work here. If they worked, no “reinstatement” of the work from home policy would be needed.

    NPHET, The Government, and the HSE need to embrace therapeutics like Ivermectin that have been proven to work.

    The vaccines are BUNK.

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    Nov 12th 2021, 7:04 PM

    @Roger Pollack: Big Up Nphet, Kid?

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    Nov 12th 2021, 6:27 PM

    And would they consider doing something about schools at all? Or are they being quite about that because the government find it too tricky and have decided to just ignore schools instead? NPHET are meant to be seperate to government so it does seem odd that they’re avoiding mentioning schools completely. Back to the ol’ “it’s the public’s fault” line of blame.

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    Nov 12th 2021, 5:00 PM

    The cure is in Donnellys egg head it’s plain to see

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    Nov 12th 2021, 9:46 PM

    @Keith O Hanlon: not a nice comment calling anyone names says a lot about

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    Nov 12th 2021, 7:15 PM

    Are they going to put the support staff in offices back on PUP, cleaners and caterers etc ?

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    Nov 12th 2021, 5:47 PM

    Totally agree, language like estimation and uncertainty is proof of that

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    Nov 12th 2021, 10:15 PM

    Yds

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    Nov 13th 2021, 1:51 AM

    The numbers have steadily increased since they have started backing the use of antigen testing so could it be that more cases are being caught because of people being able to test at home and so easily?

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