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WITH THE GENERAL election only two days away, TheJournal.ie has been asking each political party for their positions on a variety of issues affecting people across Ireland.
So far, we’ve published Q&A pieces on housing, insurance, cycling, childcare and agriculture.
Each article teases out parties’ positions by asking them a number of specific questions.
For this article we asked parties about their stance on one of the most fundamental issues in the State. Specifically, what constitutes the nation and whether Irish people should vote on reunification.
There’s been increased debate around the issue of a united Ireland ever since the Brexit vote in 2016, a poll which saw Northern Ireland vote to remain in the EU.
The subsequent Brexit negotiations saw the border become the single biggest stumbling block to progress and the eventual agreement led to customs arrangements in Northern Ireland being treated differently to the rest of the UK.
In December, Northern Ireland elected more nationalist MPs than unionist MPs for the first time, raising questions about whether changing demographics and voter sentiment were moving unification closer than ever before.
Under the Good Friday Agreement, it is acknowledged that a united Ireland can be brought about if voters both north and south “exercise their right of self-determination on the basis of consent, freely and concurrently given”.
The decision to hold a border poll is ultimately one to be taken by the UK’s Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.
The agreement states that the secretary is to hold such a poll if they deem it likely a majority of people in Northern Ireland would vote for a united Ireland.
So given that context, we’ve asked parties running in the general election whether they are in favour of a united Ireland and if/when a border poll should take place.
The responses below are word-for-word what were given by the parties with the exception of the answers from the Social Democrats and Aontú, who did not respond but have manifesto policies on the issue.
Fine Gael: The party’s full official title is “Fine Gael – The United Ireland Party”. So, yes based on the principle of consent and a majority, north and south, being in favour.
Fianna Fáil: Yes. A United Ireland is a founding goal of our party. We believe it should be achieved through consensus.
Sinn Féin: Yes.
Labour: Labour aspires to the unification of all the people on the island of Ireland, first and foremost, as the logical and necessary first step towards political unity. The best thing we can do to secure that now is to ensure the institutions of the Good Friday Agreement are fully operational.
People Before Profit: Yes we do.
Green Party: Yes.
The Social Democrats (From the party’s manifesto): We believe that a United Ireland, achieved by consent, has the real potential to benefit the people of the entire island economically, politically and culturally. We will therefore work towards achieving this in a spirit of mutual respect of all peoples who share this island and based on a foundation of Social Democratic principles.
Aontú (The party’s website outlines the following policy): Aontú seeks the independence of the Irish people north and south, east and west. We believe in self-determination; that decisions made as close to the people that they affect, are better decisions. Irish people can influence those decisions and they can hold the decision makers to account. When decisions are made in London, Brussels and Berlin they are not made in Ireland’s interest.
Irish Freedom Party: Yes we aspire to a democratic United Ireland. We are an all-Ireland party who wants an Ireland ruled by the Irish people not by London or Brussels.
The National Party: The National Party supports the unification of Ireland in one sovereign and independent republic.
Fine Gael: An Taoiseach said during the seven-way leaders’ debate that he believes in a United Ireland but it should only be put to the people when we believe the poll would pass both North and South. Calls for a border poll at this time, which are not properly thought through, are only likely to exacerbate division and uncertainty.
Fianna Fáil: No. A border poll at this point would be divisive rather than conciliatory.
Sinn Féin: Yes.
Labour: No. It is clear that any border poll held in the next five years would be highly divisive in Northern Ireland at a time when Brexit has already increased tensions across the nationalist-unionist divide.
People Before Profit: We are for a border poll – held on both sides of the border.
Green Party: One thing we have learned from Brexit is that we should not rush into decisions, particularly through referenda, that have not been sufficiently prepared for or had sufficient public engagement on. Therefore we would only be happy to hold a border poll if sufficient public debate, engagement of all communities, and a robust economic assessment of the impact of reunification has been completed and this would be difficult to progress in the lifetime of this government.
Aontú (The party’s website outlines the following policy): A referendum on Irish reunification is now the only reasonable next step and is necessary to allow the north to move forward economically and socially. Aontú will support calls for this referendum and will actively campaign for a Yes to Unity vote.
Irish Freedom Party: Our preference is to have a period of consultation and preparation with all of the stakeholders on the island. Brexit is a factor too and it will take a few years to see the full effect of that on the island.
The National Party: We do not believe Ireland’s national unity is beholden to the temporary whim of an electorate in the form of a border poll. We support a negotiated settlement between the south and the north to achieve sovereignty and independence.
Fine Gael: An Taoiseach has said, he believes in a United Ireland but it should only be put to the people when we believe the poll would pass both North and South.
Fianna Fáil: We will establish within the Department of an Taoiseach a unit to lead a formal study and cross-community consultation on a Green Paper to outline how the Irish government should approach the handling of any unity referendum should circumstances arise where it can be called.
Sinn Féin: Sinn Féin wants to see a referendum on Irish unity within the next five years.
Labour: Any referendum in Ireland should be a vote to agree the reunification of Ireland if the majority in Northern Ireland had already voted in favour of this.
People Before Profit: The circumstances are appropriate at the moment.
Green Party: A border poll in the Republic should come at the same time as a poll is conducted north of the border. It should only be carried out when there is a likelihood of it passing.
Irish Freedom Party: When it is clear and obvious that a majority of people on the island desire a United Ireland and a sufficient level of consultation has taken place.
The National Party: We do not believe a border poll is a viable vehicle to practically achieve unity and independence.
Fine Gael: Any holding of a border poll, either North or South, would be inappropriate at this time as specified above. As such, any determination as to whether the polls should be held simultaneously or otherwise is, similarly, inappropriate as it would only exacerbate division and uncertainty.
Fianna Fáil: This sequencing should be considered as part of overall preparations for a United Ireland.
Sinn Féin: That should be discussed by a Citizens’ Assembly.
Labour: The Belfast Good Friday Agreement sets out that a border poll should be held in Northern Ireland to confirm a situation where the majority of people is in favour of reunification of Ireland. Any referendum in Ireland should follow this, unless a wide range of political parties in Northern Ireland ask the Irish government to hold a simultaneous poll.
People Before Profit: In our view, a similar poll should be held on same day in the 26 counties.
Green Party: It should be conducted at the same time.
Irish Freedom Party: We should await the outcome of the vote in the north.
The National Party: See above. The Good Friday Agreement is not a permanent settlement. From a nationalist-republican perspective, the GFA can only be judged by its utility in moving us further towards a United Ireland. It has failed to achieve this, and the National Party staunchly opposes blind faith in the institutions and mechanisms of the GFA.
Fine Gael: The Irish Government should be focused on actively supporting the Good Friday Agreement and the restored institutions. Fine Gael’s vision aligns with the Good Friday Agreement aspiration of ‘equal opportunity in all social and economic activity, regardless of class, creed, disability, gender or ethnicity’ and fully equal rights for same-sex couples and lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBTI+) people across the island.
Fianna Fáil: We will establish within the Department of an Taoiseach a unit to lead a formal study and cross-community consultation on a Green Paper to outline how the Irish government should approach the handling of any unity referendum should circumstances arise where it can be called.
Sinn Féin: Yes it should. The Irish Government has a duty and obligation to make preparations for Irish unity. In Government, Sinn Féin will:
Labour: Labour leader Brendan Howlin has for a number of years called for an inclusive, non-sectarian public conversation on the future of Ireland, modelled on the New Ireland Forum of the 1980s, including discussion of a potential unitary Irish state while open to other political views including British Unionist perspectives.
People Before Profit: It should. Within such a forum People Before Profit will be promoting the case for a socialist United Ireland rather than extending the current 26 county tax haven.
Green Party: Yes.
Aontú (The party’s website outlines the following policy): Given that the opinions of Irish people north and south are changing significantly in support of Irish unity and given the demographic change, it is foolish and irresponsible for the governments in Dublin and London not to start to plan for the unity of the Irish people. We need to see the ongoing, planned and increasing devolution of far more powers from London to Ireland, to allow a managed transition to unification. The North/South Inter-Parliamentary Association must be developed to provide deeper and more regular parliamentary support to the work of the North/South Ministerial Council
Irish Freedom Party: Yes, because it is a realistic possibility and any government would be wise to maximise its preparation.
The National Party: The government must immediately end its partitionist mindset and adopt a 32-county approach to questions of policy, while also respecting the temporary political realities of the island. Practically, only a nationalist government can set about laying the foundations for the creation of a united and sovereign republic.
Fine Gael: It is far too early to start making pronouncements and decisions on political structure. It would be divisive and counterproductive to the goal of a United Ireland.
Fianna Fáil: This should be considered as part of overall discussions and considerations.
Sinn Féin: That should be discussed by a Citizens’ Assembly.
Labour: It is too soon for any party to set down a fixed vision of appropriate institutions for political unity across Ireland. The whole point of having a broad, inclusive dialogue with all communities is to tease out some of these issues, not to prejudge the outcome of such dialogue.
People Before Profit: We do. There should be a constituent assembly to draw up a new constitution for a 32 county Ireland. Beforehand there should be citizens assemblies held all over the country to have a democratic input into the making of this constitution. At such assemblies we will advocate new political structures which extend democracy by giving electors a right to re-call deputies who break their manifestos.
Green Party: The continuation of the Stormont Assembly is likely to be retained in any United Ireland. While the Green Party has not set out any specific set of constitutional reforms, using provincial assemblies as a model for regional government under a new remit is something this which could be considered under the principle of subsidiarity and strengthening democracy.
Irish Freedom Party: There would need to be a huge consultation process regarding the political structure. Our preference would be a federal Ireland with a bill of rights for all.
The National Party: The National Party would be open to considering political structural options such as a unitary or a federal state as part of prospective negotiations between north and south. However, the fundamental Irish nationalist demand of national independence and sovereignty for the entire island in one political entity must first be satisfied.
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When is Germany going to tackle the raising anti-Semitism among male Muslim teens in German schools? Or is that too politically sensitive for Merkel? http://www.dw.com/en/jewish-council-says-anti-semitism-in-germany-is-increasing/a-39805727
@BrianMcB: Its painfully ironic that a country that murdered 6 million Jewish people and has through many different ways acknowledge its holocaust guilt has now through its open border policy allowed hundreds of thousands of anti semites in.
@Clever Jake: “The girls were silent”. Muslims girls in German tend not to speak when their male peers do in class: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/sexism-and-islam-debated-in-germany-after-cologne-attacks-a-1073751.html
@BrianMcB: I think brian it a little bit more complex than your musings. Antisemitism is on the rise all over europe, particularly in former east Germany, Poland etc.
I prefer to listen to and enjoy music as something to listen to and enjoy. Politics play no part in it for me.I know that most composers had deep political issues but lets separate the two and enjoy the better part.
A lot of Jews – a lot of them very powerful and influential – are rabidly anti Christian, never hear anything about that though do we.
@TehJurolan: Really, who?
@TehJurolan: Isreal the only middle East country where Christians are not perscuated and their numbers are on the increase….
@John003: Lebanon is over 40% Christian . The president is Christian ffs. And they have a very negative view of Israel’s “protection “
From Dublin City Council to Düsseldorf and beyond the jewish people are under siege as anti-Semitism often cloaked as “anti-zionism” is on the rise.
@Brian Morris: Bullhocky. Opposing the actions of Netenyahu is no more anti-semetic than opposing the actions of Mugabe is racist.
By the way, did you just set up your twitter account to post that?
@Brian Morris: the Palestinians who live in the gaza ghettos and have to use tunnels to access supplies can certainly identify with the plight of the Jews who lived under nazism.
“Anti-zionism” is anti-Semitism repackaged for the 21st century. “We’re not anti-Semitic we just hate Israelis”.
@Brian Morris: that’s your reply? Make up a quote and aim. It at others but not as a reply? Try harder
@Dave Hogan: During WWII the Nazis practiced ‘calorie restriction’ on the Jews effectively imprisoned in the Warsaw ghetto.
Now, lets have a read of a quote from Israels Dov Weisglass, former aide to Ariel sharon, about the gaza ghetto….
“The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger.”
Netenyahus government even produced guidelines…
http://www.gisha.org/UserFiles/File/publications/redlines/red-lines-presentation-eng.pdf
@The Risen: Do you support Israel’s right to exist as a nation state?
@Dave Hogan: Hows that Dave? Can you outline how the Palestinians can identify with the deliberate industrialised mass murder of millions of Jews under the Nazis?
@The Risen: Go to http://gisha.org/publication/1667 and it outlines that neither widespread food shortages or hunger were reported. Seems odd you’d omit this.
@The Risen: indeed, one Israeli politician even referred to the palestinians as ‘ two legged cockroaches ‘.
@Clever Jake: Hard to understand why the Palestinians refused 94% of this disputed territory being handed over to them so. (With the remaining % made up of Israeli sovereign territory) Its easy to say get out, but it appears much harder to recognise the existence of the state of Israel.
I see the standard hasbara troll talking points are putting in an appearance…..
@The Risen: get the tinfoil, it’s all one big conspiracy orchestrated by the filthy Jews *rolls eyes*
@Honeybadger197: hi honey, question for you, would you agree with the Jews taking up arms against their oppressors in the ghettos or would you describe them as terrorists ?
@Dave Hogan: You’re still pushing that odious false equivalence? I was hoping you could develope your earlier claim that Palestinians could identify with Jews under the Nazis. You made the statement, please support it.
@Honeybadger197: read my comment slowly its self explanatory, now any chance of answering my question , do you condemn or support Jewish resistance against their oppressors in WW2?
@Dave Hogan: Its not, its a false equivalence. Let me explain: Around 400,000 Jews were in the Warsaw ghetto. 100,000 had died from disease, malnutrition or summary execution before the uprising. To be comparable to Gaza over 300,000 Gazans would have had to have died under similar circumstances. After the uprising, 300,000 Jews were moved to Treblinka extermination camp and murdered. At most 200 Jews survived the uprising. 98% of the ghetto were murdered. Please contain your odious comparisons in future.
@Honeybadger197: nice debunking honeybadger. History and facts are two things anti-Semites struggle with.
@Honeybadger197: I have just thought of another similarity, for every nazi killed by the resistance they killed about 20 to 25 in revenge, correct me if I am wrong but is the ratio about the same between the Israeli army and Palestinians.
@The Risen: Not at all. The same source you linked to in your Nazi comparison refutes your nonsense. Better to fall back on vague ad hominem as usual?
@Dave Hogan: Is that the written equivalent of running away Dave? Hysterical exaggeration serves no purpose in a debate.
@Brian Morris: There’s a few headbangers here who’ll push any nonsense. Shameless stuff.
@Honeybadger197: bear with me I’am trying to remember the name of the Israeli politician or member of the IDF who admitted copying nazi methods of controlling large groups of people in ghettos can you refresh my memory with his name?
@Dave Hogan: I’ll happily refresh your memory Dave. It seems you still can’t control that wilful ignorance of yours. You’ll be happy to ignore that they studied this in order to understand how to keep casualties to a minimum (as opposed to ” liquidating” a ghetto) You can’t control yourself can you? I’m happy to help you out though:
@Honeybadger197: At the gates of Yassergrad
25/01/2002
By Amir Oren
In order to prepare properly for the next campaign, one of the Israeli officers in the territories said not long ago, it’s justified and in fact essential to learn from every possible source. If the mission will be to seize a densely populated refugee camp, or take over the casbah in Nablus, and if the commander’s obligation is to try to execute the mission without casualties on either side, then he must first analyze and internalize the lessons of earlier battles – even, however shocking it may sound, even how the German army fought in the Warsaw ghetto.”
@Dave Hogan: You might study this while you’re at it. You’re ticking a lot of boxes here Dave. http://jcpa.org/article/holocaust-inversion-the-portraying-of-israel-and-jews-as-nazis/
@Honeybadger197: LOL! A link to one of the interchangable propaganda sites?
@The Risen: Must be on the money if you’re trying to deflect from it. I’ll chalk that down as a hit so. Thanks buddy!
@Dave Hogan: Oh yes the tunnels which Egypt flooded and destroyed wonder why?
Haha Honeybadger FTW… Nice!
@Honeybadger197: thanks for that, had a read interesting but can’t see much in there that I would agree with.
@Brian Morris: I am against the Israeli government’s policies related to Palestine. That doesn’t make me or anyone who holds that view anti any nation, race or creed.
There is a trend that if you are against a nation’s foreign policy, you are somehow against the people or certain people within that country.
Not the case.
The same way that being against a policy related to war does not mean you don’t appreciate or support the troops. This is something that has come up again and again in Britain and the US.
The genocide is over so why do some quarters wish to continually airbrush history? Anti semitism was one of those many aspects of human history that the majority of us can now sit back and say, that was wrong, why should we now moralise or try to retrospectively and subjectively ‘rethink’ people’s motives instead of dealing with the truth and facts of history as best we can so we do not repeat past mistakes.
@winston smith: ^^ This. There is nothing scarier to me than what is being done to warp the roots and branches of fascism.
And no one picked up on… “German Chancellor Angela Merkel (third from right), with Wagner’s granddaughter Katharina (third from left) at the Bayreuth Festival” statement being wrong? Nice beard lol.
There’s a book floating around Germany and everywhere else. It’s the manifesto of a racist psychopath, a man who saw no problem with murdering Jews. It’s all about his “struggle”. It’s given to kids, who are told to memorise it. It calls Jews “the spawn of apes and pigs”. It calls for the violent subjugation of all peoples, not in his “little gang”. It preaches hate and contains explicit calls to violence, which many people act on. Should we ban this book? Anyone know the name of this book?
@James Dolan: The Koran?
@Clever Jake: You keep jumping in to defend a highly Illiberal right wing ideology… makes me wonder… You a right winger Jake?
Her election is in September, so headlines all the way?
Makes you laugh, or cry. All the arguments for and against the Jews centering around the Nazis. Nothing mentioned about the history of anti-Semitism from the dawn of time, and not a word mentioned about the reasons why? “Anti-Semitism is on the rise”, they say, but in fact it never dwindled, just seethed below the surface. Despite our tolerence and acceptance of other matters, this issue will never go away.
The Palestinian population has grown eightfold since 1948.
Obviously the ‘Pogram’ is not working.
one thing about German opera: its too long and too loud
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