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Update, 11.18: The Vatican’s response to the report has now been published.
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THE VATICAN’S OFFICIAL response to the findings of the Cloyne report into clerical sexual abuse in the diocese is ‘ready’ and will be published ‘imminently’, Italian reports have said.
A report published by the La Stampa newspaper said that a “substantial and lengthy response” – stretching to over 15 pages – is near completion, and is now awaiting a final formal approval before it is delivered to Ireland.
The document will be sent directly to the Irish government, the report said, before it is published to the public. Delivery of the report will likely be the final act of Giuseppe Leanza as Papal Nuncio to Ireland, before he is transferred to a similar posting in Prague.
The report – published on La Stampa’s ‘Vatican Insider’ blog – said that while the contents of the report were not yet known, sources said the Vatican would try to avoid controversy and instead try to ease its strained relationship with the Irish state.
The response has been compiled with input from the Roman Curia, the Catholic Church’s central administration; its diplomatic State Secretariat; and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the highest body of Catholic doctrine, of which Pope Benedict is a former head.
The Cloyne report, which was published on July 13, outlined how 19 priests abused dozens of children between 1996 and 2009 and accused the diocese of gross negligence for not doing enough to tackle the abuse.
Taoiseach Enda Kenny launched an unprecedented attack on the Vatican in the days after the report’s publication, which he said exposed “the dysfunction, disconnection, elitism and narcissism that dominate the culture of the Vatican to this day.”
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The Commissioners contract was extended to June 2025 which is quite unbelievable given that he is trying his level best to destroy the organisation be it intentionally or otherwise. The Government are just sitting back and watching the whole thing burn before their eyes.
@Gregson from the Block: Requiring accountability that’s all. They have been a law onto themselves previously.
I own a small business in my town and regularly see the same guarda out and about in the town weather that be during the day or on Saturday nights. It seems that there is about 20% of people doing 90% of the work ? I’m well aware that there is a greater number of guards in the station but what do they do ??
And attendance at dodgy parties no doubt
@Anne Busher Collins: that was a civil servant working for the Garda Ombudsman, no serving Gardai work in there
@Anne Busher Collins: ah bless poor Anna doesn’t know the difference between GSOC and the Gardai
@johnbrady: hmmm and yet you seem to be dismissive of the seriousness of organised crime infiltrating both Garda and GSOC / organised crime gangs that manages to use Garda Uniforms for a murder / leading detectives working on that specific case committing suicide in a Garda station / a a member of GSOC who investigate the Garda attending the party celebrating the release / and you think trying to be condescending and splitting hairs over the organisation structures of our police force is somehow going to deflect from the scandal – jog on
@Disco Inferno: not necessarily correct … there have been gards there on secondment
@Dave Hammond: wearing boiler suits and military helmets with AK 47s none of which were garda issued
@Mc Comascaigh Paul: There aren’t any currently, and that secondment ended 2 years ago.
@johnbrady: The condescending arrogance is breathtaking, (To Anne Busher). From Maurice McCabe to Paul Reynolds suggesting the monk was tipped off because he was ‘always ahead of the game’ to the many Gardai personally abusing Drew Harris because of his attempted reforms. Criticism ok, personal abuse that should be beneath ye. Can ye not see the damage the few are doing to the majority of cops and to the public with arrogance like that. Nobody is perfect but you need to understand that before you can begin to put it right. The saddest thing is we ALL want to be supportive of the Gardai but boy do ye make it difficult.
@Disco Inferno: oh ye?, suppose they don’t need it anymore given that they send most investigations on to be investigated by AGS anyway !!
@Disco Inferno: heard he was a great lad all together
Westport, nice 3 days. I see suspension of Garda is going to be a talking point. A more valid talking point would be dismissal of Garda . The organization has lost the publics respect in many areas. Another one recently caught in Dublin airport with a pocket full of white .
I’m expecting the same ‘outrage’ we see for education…
@thesaltyurchin: why?
@William slevin: par for the course no?
@thesaltyurchin: so people complain about the teachers they must also need to complain about the garda?
Here I’ll help you out the garda organisation as an organ of the state is corrupt…they have an us and them mentality, many see themselves as seperate to the people they serve they in fact think they are superior to the people they serve…many of the population got to see the nasty side of many a garda during the pandemic…
Examples of garda abuse and corruption are a couple of mayo garda joking about raping a woman protestor, who was protesting about the corrib oil fields I think it was…she secretly recorded it and used it as evidence against them…
Then their was the false breathalyser tests over a million of them…
Hitting on rape victims giving their statements…
The entire corruption that garda mcabe exposed…which two commisioners had to step down…
A ban Garda drug addict selling information for drugs to drug dealers in sligo…
Garda commiting purgery in court just to get a conviction…
Garda fasley arresting people without reasonable cause…
Garda assaulting members of the public…
Garda extorting foreign dilveroo drivers…
The list is near endless amount of corruption in the garda organisation and just about all of what of just said has been reported by thejournal.ie at one point or another.
As far as I can tell and i won’t say this about every garda because I’ve met some good ones…but it seems to be as an organisation and a culture with the garda they have a disdain for the people they serve why otherwise would their be so much abuse and corruption amongst their ranks…
Hope that satisfied you
@William slevin: Pretty concise evaluation Bill. I’m alluding to those that would look to make our only 2 functioning institutions worse rather than better, teachers are the easier target tbf, in this instance I’ve had too few run ins with Garda to really have an opinion of any nuance, but I appreciate that people’s taxes have insured desirable, necessary employment that can maintain a reasonably middle class life (depending on ones circumstance, family etc). Accountability is needed across the PS tho
@thesaltyurchin: the garda aren’t a function ing institution what they are is a self corrupt self serving institution…
As for the teachers and the school system…I call them the murder machine as in the murder of young minds, literally then came across a pamphlet book in my early 20′s by padrig Pearce called the murder machine…speaking similarly of my thoughts but of the british education system murdering young irish minds…
Today it hasn’t changed the education system is their for the self serving establishment…the entire system needs an overhaul…not everyone needs academics…many are best placed in trades from a young age early teens…were placing to much on the class room for learning…to much on a single piece of paper over experience on the job training and that includes business and so on…
These two institutions are as dysfunctional as the rest and only exist to serve themselves and the establishment…
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