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Water charges will be announced ‘in or around August’

The charges are set to begin in October with the first bills due in early 2015 but a pricing structure has yet to be decided.

WATER CHARGE PRICES will be announced in or around August according to the Commission for Energy Regulation (CER).

Commissioner at the CER Paul McGowan made the revelation this evening during a sitting of the Oireachtas Public Accounts Committee at Leinster House.

The charges are set to begin in October with the first bills due in early 2015 but a pricing structure has yet to be decided.

One of the roles of the CER is in  regulating  price changes in other utilities such as gas and electricity.

McGowan told the committee members this evening that the CER has not yet been given this statutory regulatory power over Irish Water but assured members that “the commencement order is due within days”.

In setting the charges, McGowan said that the CER would ensure that the charges are reasonable in terms of the costs of setting up Irish Water.

He said, however, that he could not provide any details as yet as to whether these charges would be universal or whether they will be different across various local authorities.

McGowan did pledge however that the CER will publish Irish Water’s submission on its proposed charging structure along with the CER’s commentary on it.

A public consultation programme will then follow with the final decision on charges expected in late Summer.

McGowan was then questioned about whether there would be different charges for water that is used for drinking taps and that used for sewage leaving a property. He said that although no definitive decision has been taken on such matters that he would envisage that this would be the case.

He added that in some properties, those with septic tanks for example, charges would only be incurred for water used in sewerage removal.

CEO of Irish Water John Tierney reiterated that the new semi-state will not have the power to cut off customers for non-payment of charges.

Fianna Fáil TD Seán Fleming asked Tierney whether supply limiters would instead be put on properties instead, echoing a loopholes used by local authorities currently.

“If you look at the last three charges that were introduced including the property tax, 93 per cent of people pay these charges. Those people want to see that for people who don’t pay that there are penalties in place,” he responded.

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:00 PM

    By my maths, when broken and sold in ounces it’s worth about €650,000. I dunno where the drug squad is selling their weed but with a street value like that you’d make a killing. Seriously though how do they estimate it?

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    Mute MaryLou(ny)McDonald
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:01 PM

    Todd…you want us to trust pothead maths…aha aha haaaaaaa

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    Mute Cupid Stunt
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:03 PM

    they break it down into street deals, like a tenners worth, I was caught years ago and disputed the amount.

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    Mute Sacha Mahady
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:05 PM

    It’s revenue. Have you included vat and ufc. I bet they did.

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    Mute Sacha Mahady
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:06 PM

    U S C Stupid fat fingers.

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:07 PM

    Why would they include VAT?

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    Mute Uncle Monty
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:08 PM

    Looks like 20€ a gram which is down from their normal 25€ a gram estimations. I never paid more than 14.2857143 € a gram and that’s even too expensive. Sherry?

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    Mute Sacha Mahady
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:09 PM

    Seriously Todd. ??

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:20 PM

    Haha sorry

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    Mute Jack Bowden
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    Aug 5th 2015, 7:08 PM

    Maybe you should buy lots of it at that price and then bulk it out with traditional Irish ingredients and then create a brand and market it. Sell it as a quality Irish product.

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    Mute Linda Whelan
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    Aug 5th 2015, 10:20 PM

    @cupid stunt did you get away with it?? lol

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    Mute Wang King
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:17 PM

    Who the f@ck sends that much stink in the post?

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Aug 5th 2015, 7:24 PM

    An Idiot.

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    Mute Charlie Melia
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    Aug 5th 2015, 10:33 PM

    The question is…. How many packages like this get away each month that someone no matter how stupid thought it was possible…….

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    Mute Rod_TenⒸ
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    Aug 5th 2015, 5:56 PM

    People should just grow their own

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    Mute Supernova
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    Aug 5th 2015, 5:59 PM

    I doubt people are going to grow 1.2mill worth for personal use

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    Mute MaryLou(ny)McDonald
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:01 PM

    Hi Rod…which other laws should people disobey? who gets to choose the laws we can disobey?

    You like pot I like to drive at great speed and overtake everyone and treat the roads like a personal race track…hey chill it’s ok, you ignore the laws around cannabis and i’ll ignore the ones around speeding.

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:03 PM

    You overtaking, speeding and treating the road like a race track is a danger to yourself and others. Weed is not.

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    Mute Cupid Stunt
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:05 PM

    that’s a really bad analogy Mary Lou.

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    Mute Rod_TenⒸ
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:05 PM

    Lock ‘em and throw away the key, like it.

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    Mute Rod_TenⒸ
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:06 PM

    Or just change some antiquated laws

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    Mute Diarmuid Doran
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:08 PM

    Mary Lou , the law is ridiculous .How many deaths caused by cannabis in Ireland ? 0 ?
    How many caused by alcohol and tobacco ?

    Take it out of the hands of the dealers , small amounts/quota of plants legal for home use.Commercial amounts for medical use etc taxed with proceeds to health service etc ?

    Garda resources freed up .

    Or is that too much sense for a troll account ?

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    Mute Matt Beaumont
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:17 PM

    @Marylou

    Worst analogy ever!

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    Mute VinHeffer89
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:26 PM

    Danger level to the public allowing you to drive like a lunatic: high Danger level to the public by allowing someone to smoke a relatively harmless plant on the privacy of their own home; nil

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    Mute Daniel O'Neill
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:32 PM

    please do Mary Lou and then we can evaluate who causes a bigger risk to public safety :) the stoner or the Muppet driving a ton of steel dangerously ……

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    Mute Jenny
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:36 PM

    Are you in to extreme gardening? How is growing and tending to pants as Rod suggested comparable to you using the road as a personal race track? They might be comparable if you’re high as kite?

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    Mute Randy Rarely
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    Aug 5th 2015, 7:27 PM

    marylouny disobey unjust laws. sitting at home cultivating a plant and enjoying its fruits is nowhere near speeding in a jam jar putting peoples lives at risk. man.

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    Mute Cupid Stunt
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    Aug 5th 2015, 8:01 PM

    Mary Lou, I reckon if you want to drive around on a racetrack on your own and in a safe environment it’s fair enough, I’d have no real issue with that and wouldn’t consider it my business. you’d be well aware of the personal risks involved and as an adult could make an informed decision for yourself. or how about I just tell you what to do. what would you prefer?

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    Mute Cannabis Freedom
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    Aug 5th 2015, 11:14 PM

    @Mary Lou – Who gets to choose the laws we can disobey?

    I think the more important question that needs to be answered is, who should have the power to prohibit the use of nature? Especially considering the many benefits that the cannabis plant has to offer if used properly, it’s both insane & criminal that our government (or any other for that matter) deny us the use of this medicinal herb.

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    Mute Ivan Ó Sirideáin
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    Aug 6th 2015, 10:55 AM

    Haha your the dope here

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    Mute Kevin Hayes
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:04 PM

    €1.2 million for 20kg is €60 per gram. Nonsense. You’d have to be drunk to pay that. No stoner would.

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    Mute Ivan Edge
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:08 PM

    €15 a gram would be a decent enough deal. €50 bags usually weigh between 2.5 – 3 grams

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    Mute Kevin Hayes
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    Aug 5th 2015, 10:48 PM

    @ the druid- u r correct. My bad. Lesson is – shouldn’t vape, read and post. €20 per gram is high but it is a reasonable number to use from a self-aggrandizing government agency viewpoint. The real story is – why bother? Leave marijuana alone – in 5 to 10 years it will be at least decriminalized, preferably legalized, in Ireland

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    Mute David Grey
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:56 PM

    You wait, drone technology is developing very fast, sooner or later there will be drone deliveries everywhere and no dealers in sight! Time for the Government to concentrate on facts and research – ban alcohol advertising, get tougher on tobacco and decriminalise personal users and spend all the saved money on treating addicts of harmful drugs and pharmaceutical drugs such as Heroin and it’s cousin Codeine! There are many people with very sick children moving to Colorado because they can get medical grade cannabis to stop epileptic seizures which conventional medicines do little for while medical cannabis by enlarge reduces significantly or even stops altogether! If one of my kids had severe seizures I would try anything that was safe, might prevent brain damage, extend life and give a chance to live free of pain and the chains of Pharmaceutical medicine which usually has nasty side effects!

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    Mute Mark Cullen
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:50 PM

    Of course lads are going to carelessly throw ‘€1.2 million’ worth of it in the post.
    They probably sent 10x more that weren’t caught and it probably cost them less than €10,000 to produce the whole lot.

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    Mute graham galvin
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:00 PM

    Somebody? Surely there is an address on the boxes….

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:11 PM

    An Eircode return address but I think that they are safe enough lol.

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    Mute Paul Dunne
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:00 PM

    F:;king clowns

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    Mute Tap Solny
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:08 PM

    Nice work Customs. Customs protecting clowns from themselves.

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    Mute Diarmuid Doran
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:21 PM

    Troll , Pat Lyons/Mary Lou/ etc etc , your opinion counts for diddly squat.

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:21 PM

    Good to hear you’re safe

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    Mute Kizzi Yeates
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    Aug 5th 2015, 7:44 PM

    The Great Leader Would Bring In A Fortune If He Legalised Or made Medical Marajuana Avaiable…

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    Mute Kizzi Yeates
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    Aug 5th 2015, 7:46 PM

    And Jobs Think Of those Poor Opressed Farmers Who grow this instead of Hedges ….

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    Mute Kizzi Yeates
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    Aug 5th 2015, 7:46 PM

    Could :)

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    Mute Paul O'Brien
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    Aug 5th 2015, 9:17 PM

    Dammit, there goes my party plan for the weekend. Have to send out for a few cans instead :-(

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    Mute Paul Culligan
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    Aug 5th 2015, 7:05 PM

    20 Kilo? Why don’t the use the term ‘Stone’?

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:08 PM

    It was really €1.75 million worth really lol.

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    Mute Kevin Hayes
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:13 PM

    really?

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Aug 6th 2015, 12:18 AM

    Really, really was, lol.

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    Mute Colette Kearns
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    Aug 5th 2015, 6:09 PM

    Doped!

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    Mute IRL77
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    Aug 6th 2015, 12:33 AM

    Oops!!

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    Mute IRL77
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    Aug 6th 2015, 12:25 AM

    Oops!!!

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