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LYNN BOYLAN HAS said that the water charges protest that took place in Jobstown earlier this month was ‘blown out of proportion’.
Sinn Féin’s MEP for Dublin said she was unhappy with the way the media had covered the demonstration.
Tánasite Joan Burton was trapped in her car for almost three hours by anti-water charge protesters while attending a graduation ceremony on 15 November. Two people were arrested following the incident and Burton made a statement to the gardaí.
Boylan said that she “didn’t like the way Tallaght was portrayed by the media … I do think that they blew it out of proportion completely”.
The footage that was shown of the protest in Jobstown was shown for days on end, it was debated on radio stations, shown on TV, but yet the first protest where 100,000 people marched in Dublin hardly got a mention on the national airways.
100,000 people on the streets of Dublin: women, children, men and not an incident of trouble and that wasn’t covered.
Boylan accused the media of “seeking out” any incident of trouble at the water charge protests and “blowing it out of all proportion”.
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Over in the Ukraine they were throwing Politicians into skips.. In Greece there was actual riots and Government Buildings were attacked. In France if the Government put one foot wrong there is days of mass riots.. In Ireland we sat back and sat back, for years we let the Government hit us with tax after tax because we were told it was for the good of the Country.. Then we seen this shambles of Irish Water and how it was set up to rip us off and pay back bank debt. The people marched and a Government minister was hit by a water balloon and according to our leader unsavory comments were shouted at Women… Then we have Government TD’s comparing the people who dare to protest to terrorists who cut the heads of innocent people.
Ukraine is currently a war zone, Greece will probably still be in recession in 30 years time and their situation is way worse than ours and in France, they also have some of the highest disruption rates in the world due to industrial action which harms their economy. Why can’t a peaceful protest with the water charge campaign, actually be that. What is wrong with marching in your thousands on the streets and behaving like the decent Irishmen and women you claim to be. Why do you throw bricks? attack our policemen and women? why do you throw water balloons at 65 year old women and trap them in their cars? If you want credibility then go and f*ckin earn some for god’s sake. Start marching and campaigning peacefully and ditch the thugs and cowards who want to have a bit of craic and behave like thugs. Real change comes from peaceful protest, what the water charge campaign has done in the past few weeks has tarnished our people’s reputation.
On two marches of 100,000+ people the most “sinister” thing I saw was three Mrs. Browne copycats. Sense of perspective from some people needed here!!
A person saying that a nationally organised protest movement which has had next to no “flashpoints” or violent elements, lacks credibility to me says that you’re trying to discredit the point being made as a whole.
Sorry but I don’t buy the notion that a few examples of (deplorable) behaviour undermines the message being delivered loudly and clearly.
That’s what the real water charges campaign is about, peaceful demonstration by the masses, not a few cowards running around hounding down GMC Sierra workers and Gardai or chasing our politicians down the street and hurling abuse and objects at them. The real leaders of the water charges campaign need to stand up and condemn this thuggery which we saw in jobstown and other places. Ditch the clowns like paul murphy and ruth coppinger who justify some of this rotten behaviour and call on others to chase our ministers whilst they stand back and laugh to themselves. Stick to the mass peaceful demonstration, and change will happen, but continue this descent into thuggery and the Anti water charges campaign will flow down the drain. Literally.
The acknowledgement that “a few cowards” were involved, then followed by the inflammatory exaggeration of a “descent into thuggery” – perspective!!
Cynic, you beat me to it.
The actions of a few don’t negate the actions and concerns of the majority.
I’d note that Murphy did condemn the violent element, although I would say that his definition of acceptable and mine diverge somewhere around ring fencing a politician.
I’d have to disagree with you. I dont think there’s any leaders in the water campaign, it’s a grass roots movement, I’ve been on three marchs and stood outside a topaz and I don’t consider myself a member of any group, I’m an individual who is fed up with the rubbish that the government trots out. I don’t take direction from anyone and find that a lot of people feel the same.
Sean
The Gardai were spat at and kicked while equipment was stolen from them while they were protecting the Minister who was falsely imprisoned for over two hours and a cheeky young whelp of an MEP says that such behaviour was acceptable.
Is this what we have to accept from Sinn Fein as a moral and legal norm as they get giddy with opinion polls.
Over the past few weeks we have seen behaviour from their ilk that match the lowest and most degenerate and unspeakable crimes while they abuse their victims.
Young people who find the bravery and courage to speak out against their child abuse were taunted and described as liars before the Shinners ran up the white flag.
Demonstrations against water charges in Coolock and Santry where Sinn Fein walked hand in hand with Dissident Republicans make it self evident that they pose a massive risk to our liberty and personal safety in this country and Lynn Boylan suggest we are exaggerating!
Very well said !
“Risk to our liberty” – perspective!!!!
My comment was @ Cupid Stunt
The time is ripe for revolution.
@Derek Mahoney ….. sanctimonious pr**k.
@ Derek Mahoney….. you’re starting to sound like a real pain Derek. Would you like the protesters to wear visible id and bow their heads or maybe sign in at a Garda station before joining a protest. Are you one of Endas trolls perhaps ????
And you sound like a shinnerbot paul, see how this works? I never said they need to wear id, or bow their heads or any of the rest of that sh*te you just spewed. I want protestors who call themselves peaceful to behave just that. Throwing bricks, spitting, trapping people, throwing water balloons, and chasing people, is not and never will be classed as ‘peaceful’. It’s ‘mahon’ by the way.
The only “massive risk to our liberty and personal safety” at the moment is the #Goverment, #Finegael #irishwaster
100% true
National media is a joke…. Puppets on a string
Only report on what they are told to report on
Roll on 10th Dec
People power!!!
Name me one media outlet which isn’t a joke? It’s like they are all in competition together to see who can spread the most disinformation and propaganda.
Genuine question what way should it of being reported.
A-person was trapped in a car
B-a brick was thrown
??
The thrown brick was not part of the protest. It was just some lout.
You’ve just proven the point.
And the person trapped in the car…..I think it’s you that has just proven the point!
So that person just cam over to the protest and threw a brick?
Ronan id quit while you still have a bit of dignity….you have just confirmed Boylan’s point
Really, you mean I should ignore the facts and pretend everything was all good on the day.
Now you’ve got it ronan.
Ronan, it was widely reported the next day that the scrote who threw the brick did so because his mate had just been arrested on a warrant, nothing to do with the protest.
AFAIK, the brick was thrown later that day, after the protest had ended…
What you are doing is taking into account the only facts that were presented by the media….its exactly the way the media wanted you to perceive the protest
Sittin at a protest behind Joan’s bumper- Wait a minute, where’s me jumper?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8GinTeLFq4&feature=youtu.be
Shut up you fool .
The thing ive noticed about defiance or protest of any unjust regime or establishment in Ireland or generally throughout history is that the downtrodden the uneducated as their called by these regimes have to behave in a moral standard that far exceeds the standard of the so called civilised classes that are persecuting them obviously the villification of the downtrodden by establishment regime media means that ordinary folk have to act whiter than white to try and defeat the shite that is making their lives unbearable. So the conclusion is the so called pillars of society can act anyway they like whilst the dregs which is the majority of the populus have to maintain self control at all times even in the face of adversity. So who is the good and who is the bad ? Im down for the underdog because the underdog is the 99% happier 99% happier society world planet the lot..ponder on
@larry. It wasn’t the national media’s reporting I judged that carry on that went on in jobstown, it was actual footage from the people themselves. you see, they were so caught up in their “protest” that they didn’t even stop to think that perhaps others would not see their actions in such a soft light. BTW, The day is gone larry when we only have RTE to depend on for our news. For me wathching those people act that way was a culture shock!
@ ‘paddy’. Trying to get banned again under your latest fake name kenneth?
I can smell the panic off you from here paddy….can i tell you a secret…you and your likes are a shinners wet dream…its thanks to people like you the shinners are riding high in the polls while your fascist govt of muppets drop like a lead balloon…good on ya keep it up!!!
Why can’t we click on your twitter page Paddy? Brand new is it???
Ah. A new richard rogers account??
Right Lynn this is just another typical & a continuation of SF’s attempt to stifle & intimidate the media. This campaign started with Adam’s “joke” about the independent editor at the lavish bash in New York. Rte etc etc have all been targeted since, the way it is if you don’t see things SF’s way your a targeted. ( just watch the SF’s red thumb brigade’s response to this) The hypocrisy of this is that SF where in favour of water charges first & then once again they jumped on the populist bandwagon! While you Lynn were encouraging women to get involved in a protest at Tallaght Garda station about Garda “brutality” you & your party just used this as a smokescreen to deflect against the child abuse & rape allegations. What about our children’s safety Lynn ? Can you organise a protest on same ?
Truth hurts Larry
Paddy AKA Kenneth – How are you , you handsome FG Troll you ????
If the Gov end the ‘Irishwwater then in return I volunteer in return to be trapped in a luxury car with all my tech gadgets surrounded by gardai for protection and have a brick thrown at me
Was there going to be any other outcome when RTE is the governments mouthpiece?
are the media supposed to support criminals?
Support criminals no, downplay protesters and focus only on the criminals… Also no.
paddy mulligan Twitter Account suspended .. ic says the blind man .. .
Well they should be democratic and give support all criminals as they do already for #Irishwater #finegael
She’s completely correct of course, and it pales in comparison to the economic and financial violence meted out by the government on communities like jobstown, not to mention the threats and blackmail.
But don’t take Lynns word for it, check out David Norris in the Seanad yesterday bringing some much needed perspective (from 40 mins)
http://oireachtas.heanet.ie/Seanad/Seanad_20141125-16.30.wmv
nah they are just thugs and undesirables like all shiner types
@Paddy Sinn Féin has no history of thuggery.
paddy mulligan Twitter Account suspended .. ic says the blind man ..
the media reporting and exaggerating these protests, or “dissident riots” as they’re now known in some circles, don’t have to look too far to see what real anger and rioting looks like.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/11214473/Belgium-protesters-clash-with-police-after-austerity-march.html
Yet still they don’t…..are we too nice in this country? Too mannerly? Too soft? We’ve taken more shite than the Belgians, yet we’ve only a water balloon to show for our efforts.
Well Why, if you are happy to rub shoulders with dissident republican gunmen at these protests, and think for one minute that they are worried about Your water costs, best of luck with that.
What a statement do u work for rte ?
The problem is our protesters want to be allowed riot like the Belgians and the French and the Germans but if our police throw one halfwit one the ground the big bold protesters cry and moan like life girls.
One water balloon and one brick does not make a riot. The Independents coverage of it was an absolute farce.
hahaha get used to it
She is so right, they made it sound like the storming of the Bastille with Joan as Marie Antoinette
“Let them drink Evian!”
Marie Antoinette was not in the Bastille when it was stormed
The French have Joan of Arc, Ireland has Joan of Nokia !
shiners are just upset that their thuggish nature was clear for us all to see, complete idiots the lot of them
Paddy / Kenneth – your spelling is gone to hell altogether my lovely – Have you not got Tippex in FG yet ????
She’s not wrong. But then the establishment is running scared and sf are giving them plenty of ammunition.
SF representative says ‘blown out of all proportion’…they would know they are the experts at blowing things up, literally and figuratively and out of proportion or not.
Fluch…man you are so behind the times…gilmore used to use the same auld shite rhetoric and look where he is now…weather you like it or not the shinners are here to stay…all sorts of shite has been thrown at gerry in the last couple of months but the partys popularity has risen…compare that with the idiots that use the same alud tired rhetoric as you…move on you dinosaur
A bit like Enda. When in trouble repeat 2things.
1. FF got us here.
2. When you see the bad man in the beard shout I.R.A. over and over again
spot on the truth…while all the while sinn fein are growing stronger and stronger….i thought the council and euro elections would ring alarm bells but it didnt
Given that she is Sinn Fein I guess she would obviously play down violence. Only to be expected.
bit behind the times paul…are you related to eamon gilmore by any chance?
Given Sinn Feins muted response to child abuse recently, I would say that my statement is very much of our times.
you completely evaded my question…your definitely a gilmore….which one happy or dopey?
Wheres Endas response to the Tuam mother and baby home? Wheres Endas renumeration for the symphisiotomy survivors? . Id swear ff advisors are advising Enda. Its one omni shambles after another. Face it paul. This government is finished. Its dying and Enda is doomed to failure
I don’t suffer fools Sean South. Come back with an intelligent question. Or is that asking too much?
Paul Carey – Shouldn’t we be referring to your Governments & The Churches muted response for 75 years of Child Rape and Molestation firstly ???
They say people in glasshouses ……. Etc !!!!!!
I wasn’t aware that the government are hiding child abusers, unlike Sinn Fein/ IRA.
Paul you have proved my point in spades….the problem is deflection is not working anymore…the people want answers not mudslinging…they are sick and tired of it…your thoughts on the shinners are music to their ears…sling mud but nothing else…pathetic really
I wasn’t aware you made a point Sean south. But I agree with you on deflection. So going back to the original post why is Boylan trying to deflect from the violence witness in Jobstown?
yep definately eamo’s child…..i was hoping you were happy but now im sure your dopey…ah well!…bury your head in the sand all you like…look where it got gilmore
Seamus… Did you ever think that maybe it’s not that we are behind the times but that you are too quick to forgive? Btw play the ball not the man.
*sean
Since you had to resort to some childish name calling I will take it that you lost the argument.
Is there a winner and loser here paul…next you will be counting the green and red thumbs!!! and you call me childish hahahahaha!!!
I was stating a fact. Name calling is the last resort of the inarticulate.
Fluich apologies if I was personal but Im sick and tired of mudslinging…if the parties opposed to sinn fein put there energies into proper debate…you say play the man and not the ball and I agree…weather you or I like it or not sinn fein are now part of the political landscape…
Sean South…ah why bother
Sean south,
You mentioned old rhetoric a few times.
Do you believe that everything and everyone in sinn fein are above board and that their history (which to my mind is still patchy in places) is fully accounted for?
I’m not really trying to point out anything other than it seems many people still have big question marks over sinn fein.
If you don’t then that’s fine. But I’d hope that that means you can explain all of the previously unexplained things (with information that’s more persuasive than what we’ve seen so far).
Speaking of not playing the man (or woman) but focusing on the ball instead..
Do you not agree? Massive protests country wide and yet THIS is what they focus on?
It does have an air of “this is how we would like to portray the protests”. Let’s not forget that there has been inappropriate behaviour from some gardaí which has not come under the same level of scrutiny outside of social media – where all the videos are.
This is not new – there has been massively inappropriate behaviour by the gardaí at peaceful protests in the past (Shell to Sea and that video, the May Day protest which made “Supercop” famous etc).
One water balloon and one brick. A woman in her car for a couple of hours. The last water protesters (as in the last time water charges were defeated) kept workers trapped for 9 hours during a protest.
It’s a good thing they don’t live on the continent, take a gander at their protests.. France, Germany, Spain, Greece.. Now those are full scale riots.
I’d say Joan would be more than “frightened” is she was in the middle of one of them..
It’s the very definition of a spotlight fallacy.
I suppose, relative to the methods employed by some SF members during their 30 years of protest up north, that she has a valid point.
I mean, there’s violence… And then there is SF violence.
Very true.The media has shown us over the last few months how biased they are.Time for change in ireland,get rid of the corrupt TDs in the next election.I feel that the 10th of December will be a massive peaceful protest that I will be apart of.
I’d compare Joans experience to Ghandi or Mandela imprisonment. I mean the poor woman was wasting away having been kept locked away for so long. I’m supprised she doesn’t have a book hitting the shelves in time for Christmas detailing her terrible experiences.I assume she will be asked to address the UN and be awarded next years Nobel Peace Prize. RTE should still be running this story every night. It should replace The Angelus at six o clock every evening. School children for generations to come should be tought about this brave brave woman.Coins should be minted and notes printed bearing her likeness.This tragic night should never be forgotten and should echo through the annals of Irish history.
The night Joan Burton could not drive her car out of a meeting and was forced to play Angry Birds and make phone calls for two whole hours.
I gotta stop now. I’m tearing up here.
This has to be the best comment of this week so far.Hats off to you! Hahaha fair play fair play.
The media – principally controlled by The Indo Group and its Owners , now control so many Radio Stations too , it has become a joke .
Ironically though , Lynn’s Party climbs even higher in the Polls , each time it starts one its “Let’s put SF away” Campaigns !
The plain people of Ireland have at last awakened and are no longer to be bought through lies and propaganda .
Roll on The 1 0 th D E C E M B E R – The Day of The Gathering & Reawakening of The Citizens of Ireland !
We should all stop paying our TV licence next.. We are only keeping cronies in over paid jobs….. People power can do this… ..The likes of Dobbo..etc..
Is she not a bit late coming out with these remarks?? Nearly two weeks since the incident occurred…
Maybe SF are trying to divert from what allegedly happened in Limerick this week!
Not really – It has taken that long for the Establishment media to run out of lies and phoney hysteria.
Why what happened in Limerick?
Ah finally Ronan. After being told over and over again…the reason you had to be told over and again was the fact you hat the shinners. .good boy
Ronan what did happen in limerick. Are you referring to Kenny getting heckled. I would thought that parasite would be used to it at this stage.
Since this story is about media and protests maybe someone can enlighten me the media reports said enda Kenny left the hotel in limerick by the back door which implies to me he left by the back and was gone now enda Kenny said in the dail this morning that he himself heard and saw I repeat heard the nasty vile comments to the women as they left the meeting now this implies he had to come out by the protestors to hear these so who was lying the media or enda i am curious as to which is the case and i am not supporter of any party just curious as i heard reports the other day saying he came out the back and heard him saying he heard the comments himself this morning
You’re dead right, good observation!
I hear joan burton lost an arm in the crisis
I heard it was a leg.
We’ll just have to wait to see what Kenny decides she lost.
SF blaming the media again.
From a distance of more than 200Km what I read didn’t change my mind on what I think of the decent people of Tallaght. What I read accurately reflected on what I think of Paul Murphy and his merry men
middle ireland just labels them all as skum
Paddy / Kenneth – a spelling error yet again Sonny Boy ???
Does Joan still talk about this episode ? Has she got counselling for her trauma? These are the questions that she would like answered .
Did you. with a name like that.
Missyb211
Yes,I’ve had counselling in my life …Are you happy now?
Is the Journal paid to be SFs press office? 3 articles giving SF side of the story in 4 hours even when they’ve happened ages ago. Strange.
I like to think that the journal love the madness the ensues once you antagonise a sf supporter! It’s akin to throwing a sausage to a pack of hungry dogs! WAIT…
they must be worried about being shot after kim jun jorry recent disgusting remarks
I really cannot wait to hear from you Adam after the next election. ..
So SF should not be allowed give their side like the protestors in Jobstown and Tallaght? Its called impartiality, something that is sadly lacking in the Irish media.
Besides that, it is a bit rich coming from you Adam, a diehard Labour supporter, a lot of the news on thejournal.ie on Labour look like their own press releases.
Mr.Hurley
On Hugh’s article earlier on today about some losers and an old man protesting ,not once did you complain about this !
If you give it then take it !
Cops would have shot ya in the states …can’t imagine joe Biden being trapped for hours !
would anyone complain if they were shot? i seriously doubt it
Yeah and what?
Different country, different access to weapons, different political situation.
It’s not a true comparison.
If this happened in America ,it would have happened in America. Just saying..
Another sf handbrake turn. Must be annoying them that they missed a trick with the water protests before realising there was populist potential/ vote harnessing to be had here.
I’ll be marching on the 10th but hope that sf don’t try to anoint themselves as leaders here.
If you put yourself out there no matter what guise you are not going to please all the people all the time. You leave yourself open to public abuse sometimes this abuse over spills and can be very nasty. You only need look at history and you see what happened to John Lennon, John F Kennedy, Mrs Gandhi, Abe Lincoln any many many more. Politics is a very dangerous game and the media have a duty not to inflame public anger. The only option open to us when we are dealing with politicians is to protest and you can see what is happening at the moment they just give us the two fingers. That gets people’s anger up and the result is what happened in Jobstown. Maybe the solution is that we should have elections every three years instead of five because this present lot are adamant that the will stay in power for the five years instead of knowing the mood that’s out there at the moment and go to the country.
these thugs held a woman hostage, SF have form, i suppose they think joan took herself hostage. SF are an utter disgrace
hahaha good man paddy mulligan
Mr.Mulligan
Can you please enlighten us all and tell us ‘ what was the ransom that these “thugs” were asking or looking for?’
As your surname is Mulligan ,I will be happy to give you two goes !
Lynn,
Of course we agree with you and totally forgot about the rapists you’re organisation let rape young girls…
The vilification of any woman that has raised the complaint, were they all look for it Mary-Lou?
Your leader allowing a pedophile to run loose after rapping his niece for 6 years
The allegations from two sources that he ordered the murder of an innocent mother ?
The accepting of substantial funding from corrupt business men and organisations in the US, don’t worry you will get them back.
Links to Diesel Laundering… Links to Money Laundering…
The list goes on more… The level corruption SF are involved in would turn Charles Haughey into a saint….
Did anyone see the Facebook article on the irish exemption to domestic water charges in eu rules ? Is this true ??
yes indeed it is, so ‘Irish water’ are and illegal company and also makes Kenny and his cohorts criminals
And the IRA never murdered anybody – thousands just died from lead and shrapnel poisoning, a naturally occurring phenomenon just like thunder and lightening. It was the media, with the collusion of the British government, that blamed death by natural causes on the IRA, a pacifist organisation dedicated to the promotion of peace and goodwill among mankind in general.
Get off ur FG cross and what is any of what you said got to do with Water Protests. and of course they are the only crowd who murdered. Peace process is here, the past is the past. rightly or wrongly that’s the only way forward
Allow me some creative licence, Patrick!
Stephen, that’s the problem; there is too much creativity with the facts on these comment pages
Was she even there??? As far as any article I’ve read it was Paul Murphy leading a bunch of let’s call them ‘protestors’ for the sake of impartially.
If she had first hand experience of what happened and is claiming media reports contractidcted that I’d least consider her statements as having some credibility.
What are you claiming lady, you saw it all from Brussels? Theres a women in Alaska that can see Russia from her house we should introduce you to. You’re both on par with each other.
Ok Lynn answer this one SF have claimed 700,000 pounds for a research unit in Belfast run by the 2 SF financial controllers and they could not provide and answer to what they have researched can you?
@the journal listen I’m getting a bit sick of this everyday for the past few weeks you guys have at least 2 maybe 3 articles per day about sf. As a direct result of this obvious bias on your part the productivity of several jobs has slipped because their supporters are forced to cone and defend the party. Oh and accuse anyone who disagrees with them of being a fg troll.
And here you are again the journal 11 days after the incident in jobstown you are still carrying on with your anti sf bias and forcing them to condemn you yet again.
OH WAIT!! This time it’s a sf member that’s rehashing what happened 11 days ago, so this is ok with sf!! PHEW the journal that was a close one!!!
bedwetters and government lackies throwing their toys out of the pram over a little protest
Jobstown was ridiculous.
A boycott of rte licence would be a start
Drew maybe you can answer my query above media reports seem to be at odds with what taoiseach said this morning
James Connolly
An Open Letter to Dublin Castle
13 August 1898
Capitalism, or in other words the private ownership by a small minority (your class, my lords) of the land and all other things necessary to the life of the community, is the curse, the terrible sore. The great table of nature is abundantly spread, overflowing with luxuries as well as necessaries of life. Your class are in possession; the other class, now commonly called the proletariat, possess nothing but their own ability to labour, their lifelong occupation is the work of producing. They produce all that exists. Your class then, as the law says, “fraudulently appropriates to your own use” almost all they have produced. You get all the luxuries and the best of necessaries, their share is the refuse; that is, the plainest and coarsest of everything and often not enough of these. Things, my lords, at which, if placed before you, your aristocratic noses would turn up in a manner more eloquent than words. They have never respite or ease from the work of producing and distributing. Your only occupation is gambling with each other on the different stock exchanges to see which of you shall become possessed of a greater share of the results of the workers’ toil. This is capitalism. This is what you so highly extol as the competitive system of modern society. It is truly a competitive system, but working in different directions according as the individual belongs to the possessing or unpossessing class.
Helped along by her shinner friends
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