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The Seanad chamber Laura Hutton/RollingNews.ie

The government won't be doing any Seanad reform after all

Proposals to expand the electorate will not be implemented before the election.

THE TAOISEACH HAS said that plans to expand voting rights in Seanad elections to all third-level graduates in Ireland will not be implemented before the next election.

His comments come two years after the government first proposed to expand the electorate for six of the 60 Seanad seats from the current 151,000 to as many as 800,000 people following the defeat of the referendum to abolish the Seanad in 2013.

However speaking in the Dáil this morning Kenny said he did not think the long-planned reform, which would ratify a 1979 referendum result, would be introduced in time for the next Seanad election, which will follow the general election next spring. 

In response to questions from Fianna Fáil’s Willie O’Dea, Kenny said: “The government made its decision to approve that.

To be honest with you I cannot see it being implemented before the next election in respect of the Senate.

The reform would have opened up the electorate for the Seanad to an estimated 800,000 people. At present only graduates of Trinity and the National Universities of Ireland are eligible to vote for six seats.

In 1979, a referendum to expand the electorate to all third-level graduates was passed but never legislated for. In November 2013, following the defeat of the referendum to abolish the upper house, the government agreed plans to legislate for the creation of one, six-seat constituency known as the “Institutes of Higher Education”.

All holders of degrees or equivalent qualifications from Irish universties, Institutes of Technology, private colleges and bodies such as the Royal College of Surgeons would be eligible to vote.

Draft legislation to implement the reform was published in Febraury 2014 by then Environment Minister Phil Hogan who said at the time that the expansion of the electorate was long overdue.

“Implementation of this constitutional provision could have been done at any point since 1979,” he said at the time.

The Government is now taking action to implement the will of the people.

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    Mute NO 2 FF/FG/LAB
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    Apr 4th 2016, 6:13 AM

    It’s illegal to not allow a 15 minute paid break after 4 1/2 hours work. Disappointing to see tesco dragging their feet about breaking the law

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    Mute Rusty Balls
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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:01 AM

    It’s simple folks, if you disagree with this – and you damn well should, don’t shop there. When these stores begin to see even a tiny drop in their profits they’ll suddenly find their conscience.

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    Mute Ger Buckley
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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:16 AM

    Or they will close it and all the jobs are gone.

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    Mute Rusty Balls
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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:22 AM

    @Ger As long as it’s profitable they won’t, but would you seriously want this threat held over our heads forever? We have to allow jobs like this, with low pay and illegal conditions, we have to take the crumbs from the table and suffer in silence, be grateful for it or else we’ll have no jobs at all. Seriously???
    Meanwhile these stores won’t reveal their profits in Ireland, they won’t let us know just how much they’re making here but they have to do so in the UK by law. Why do you think that is?

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    Mute NO 2 FF/FG/LAB
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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:39 AM

    If we enforced our legislation properly (which we more or less are above) there won’t be a need to boycott anything

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    Mute Jimmyjoe Wallace
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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:50 AM

    No 2 FF/FG while it’s illegal not to allow a break, it’s my understanding that it doesn’t have to be a PAID break in all cases. It depends on the contract.

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    Mute Tom Burke
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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:57 AM

    Ger
    They won’t close.
    They will pay up and they all should pay up. In the meantime we should boycott Tesco or at least spend less there.
    Every little helps!

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    Mute Peter McGlynn
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    Apr 4th 2016, 8:12 AM

    @Ger. People will not stop shopping – they’ll just go elsewhere, and the staff will follow them to where there is better working conditions.
    Tesco have been making huge profits here for many many years – way above the rate in UK arm of company. They can afford to pay the staff.
    Tesco should be fined as well as forced to give back pay.

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    Mute Good Early
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    Apr 4th 2016, 10:16 AM

    Thats correct Jimmyjoe. But in this case they were treating one group of employees different. They were discriminated against in that all the other people who do the exact same job in the company get paid breaks, yet they were singled out.
    Had it been in your job and two people sit side-by-side doing exactly the same work, and one gets paid for the 15min break and the other doesnt, that would be discriminatory too.

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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:24 AM

    The Conrad hotel does not pay staff for breaks ,also pays normal rates for working Christmas Day ,it’s been getting away with this for years .

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    Mute NO 2 FF/FG/LAB
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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:39 AM

    Report them

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    Mute IrishGravyTrain
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    Apr 4th 2016, 9:00 AM

    Conrad hotel is no different so to the rest of the Hospitality Sector. Most of them anyway.

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    Mute Andy Byrne
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    Apr 4th 2016, 9:20 AM

    No hotel or restaurant pays breaks, I haven’t had a paid break in 15 years, get over it!!
    I even worked in one place, who took the hour pay out of your wages, and still no break was given!! Ha!!

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    Mute debco
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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:22 AM

    On another note, are all employees entitled to Sunday premium pay in all employment sectors, does anyone know?

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    Mute RTibe
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    Apr 4th 2016, 8:49 AM

    There are some exemptions. Chefs for instance. Chefs also never get a decent break and eat standing up in the kitchen when things quieten down for 2 mins. Its an industry wide thing in chefing.

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    Mute Mariette van der Walt
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    Apr 4th 2016, 9:39 AM

    No

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    Mute Roisin Byrne
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    Apr 4th 2016, 11:06 AM

    I think companies can decide to pay you extra on Sundays, but they’re not obliged to.

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    Apr 4th 2016, 8:29 AM

    They should pay up in total, if they don’t it’ll set a precedent and the likes of tescos will say no pay for breaks and when brought to court pay a percentage of the pay due and be financially better of than if they pay the full amount.

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    Apr 4th 2016, 7:17 AM

    They should Tesco and sue the miserable b’stards!

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    Mute Deirdre Dee Harkin Flannelly
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    Apr 4th 2016, 8:44 AM

    Any improvements over at Dunne’s?? I’ve boycotted them for about 2 years now. Miss my vouchers. Wouldn’t mind a rummage round.

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    Mute Ryan Hardy
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    Apr 4th 2016, 11:18 AM

    Full time contracts are still “on the table” no indication whether they’ll ever be picked up and actually given to staff

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    Mute Deirdre Dee Harkin Flannelly
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    Apr 4th 2016, 2:59 PM

    My boycott amounted to nothing so Ryan….

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    Mute noel smullen
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    Apr 4th 2016, 9:49 AM

    Tescos ‘Every little helps ‘ except if you work for them !!

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    Mute Richard F
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    Apr 4th 2016, 10:25 AM

    Should everybody get paid breaks.my two breaks are unpaid on a 9 hour shift ? If so I’ll be due 10 years compensation

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    Apr 4th 2016, 11:08 AM

    Yeah you’re supposed to get fifteen minutes paid break if you’ve worked 4.5 hours.

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    Mute Richard F
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    Apr 4th 2016, 11:43 AM

    Just sent an email to siptu to try clarify it

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    Apr 4th 2016, 8:14 PM

    Yes, you are entitled to a break of 15 minutes after a 4 ½ hour work period but there is no entitlement to be paid during these breaks and they are not considered part of your working time.

    As it says in the article the paid breaks are part of Tesco’s own company guidelines, hence the legal action.

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    Apr 4th 2016, 4:08 PM

    I doubt that the Bailieboro store is even making a profit…unlike the Tesco store in Cavan town where the workers appear to take their break outside on the pavement.

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