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A design plan for the new Montpelier development in Dublin 7 Dublin City Council

What exactly is 'affordable' housing ... and how much should it cost?

“The concept of what’s affordable seems to be increasing all the time,” Dr Lorcan Sirr told The Journal.

THERE WERE TWO big announcements about ‘affordable’ apartments in Dublin during the week, but many people are still priced out of the new developments.

The new apartments – at Bolands Mills in the city centre and a site near the Phoenix Park in Dublin 7 – are part of wider plans to alleviate the housing shortage in the capital.

Affordable housing is often defined as when a person is spending less than 35% of their salary on rent on mortgage repayments.

As Ireland continues to battle a housing crisis and demand far outstrips supply, Dr Lorcan Sirr said “the concept of what’s affordable seems to be increasing all the time”.

The lecturer at TU Dublin and housing policy analyst told The Journal: “The definition of what’s affordable seems to be creeping up in line with house prices, rather than creeping up in line with wages or salaries.”

Sirr said many renters are spending more on housing than others are spending on mortgage repayments.

The average monthly mortgage repayment was around €1,400 nationally in 2023, according to Central Bank statistics. Many households are paying more than this in rent every month, without the same security of tenure, Sirr pointed out. 

New Dublin developments

On Tuesday, Dublin City Council unveiled details of an ‘affordable purchase scheme’ for apartments at the new Montpelier development (the former O’Devaney Gardens site) near the Phoenix Park in Dublin 7, which is set to launch at the end of April.

In the first tranche of available apartments, one-beds start from €258,000 and two-beds start from €334,000. The prices vary depending on the buyers’ income and the exact location of the apartment. 

A number of houses will also be available in the development, which is opening in different phases.

The one-bedroom units are aimed at a couple or individual who earns around €59,000, the council said in a statement. Households (an individual or couple) with an income of €75,150 will be eligible to apply for a two-bedroom apartment.

“Households on lower incomes, who have additional savings, may also be eligible to apply,” the council said.

Sirr questioned the income thresholds, saying a huge number of single people in particular will be immediately priced out.

19045a-omp-zz-c09-vs-vg-0001.jpg A design plan for the new Montpelier development near the Phoenix Park in Dublin Dublin City Council Dublin City Council

Also on Tuesday, it was announced that a batch of apartments in Dublin city earmarked for key workers – such as teachers, nurses and gardaí – would have rents ranging from €1,710 for a two-bed apartment or €1,850 to €2,100 for three-bed apartments.

The rent rates are being advertised by Clúid, the approved housing body managing the Bolands Mills scheme, as a discount of 27% and 36% on the market average in Dublin 4.

Sirr said just because something is cheaper, “that by definition, doesn’t make this affordable”.

The Bolands Mills development is aimed at key workers who live or work within a 1.5km radius.

The 35% figure comes into play here – applicants for these apartments must have a household income that means the rent is not higher than 35% of their salary, unless they can demonstrate they have paid the same rent or higher for the preceding two years.

‘The very upper end of affordability’

Dr Laura Bambrick, Head of Social Policy & Employment Affairs at the Irish Congress of Trade Unions, said most newly-qualified teachers, nurses and gardaí earn a basic salary in the region of €36,000 to €41,000.

So, as they would be splitting the cost with roommates, they would each spend less than 35% of their income on rent every month.

However, she said other essential workers who are earning less than this would struggle. For example, someone on the minimum wage of roughly €27,000 per year could not afford to rent one of the two-bed apartments, if we’re using the 35% rule.

Bambrick said “extra supply is always welcome” in the housing market, but we shouldn’t accept that 35% of income is the standard rate we “should” be paying for rent.

35% – instead of that being the ceiling, it has moved into being the floor.

“People think nearly 35% of your take-home [pay] should be going on your housing costs, instead of saying no. At 35%, the alarm bells should be going off. It’s at the very upper end of affordability.”

river The Bolands Mills area in Dublin 4 © RollingNews.ie © RollingNews.ie

The Bolands Mills apartments have been leased by Google, which is redeveloping the area, to Clúid for 25 years.

When asked about the cost of rent in the development, a spokesperson for Clúid said: “It is widely accepted that less than 25% to 35% of disposable income being spent on rent is affordable.

“A significant amount of work went into setting the rents following a benchmarking analysis of the key worker salaries.”

The spokesperson said the rents are “manageable and sustainable for a key worker household that currently finds it difficult to pay market rents, but at the same time is not eligible for social housing”.

“This means that rent should be manageable for a household whose income is just above the maximum income limit for social housing, as well as for households on higher incomes.”

A spokesperson for Dublin City Council said the Affordable Housing Act 2021 “sets household income thresholds and that the sale of affordable homes must be a minimum of 15% below open market value”.

The council “delivers affordable homes in line with these requirements”, the spokesperson said via a statement. 

The Department of Housing in turn provides funding to support delivery, they noted.

Using the Affordable Housing Fund, the council is offering homes at Montpelier “at a discount of 18% to 22% to open market value”, in excess of the legal requirement that such homes be 15% below open market value, the statement added.

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    Mute Mike O' Brien
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:03 PM

    Christ almighty have they nothing else to be working on? Do some work yiz gobshites

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    Mute Mark Dennehy
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 5:35 PM

    Funny how the only two jobs in Ireland where you start the day with a prayer are the religious orders and the government. All the rest of us get a cup of coffee and get the feck on with it…

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    Mute Paul Ibbs
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:08 PM

    Shame it hasn’t been recognised that religion is and should be a personal matter/lifestyle and should not drive an entire nation state and all it’s myriad of citizens

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    Mute Seán Ó Briain
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:12 PM

    It should be removed altogether. Public prayer is not Christian anyways. If Christians actually read their bible, they would know that.

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    Mute Gerard Murphy
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:48 PM

    The same way as if anyone read the bible they would know it has nothing got to do with morality.

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    Mute John Murphy
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:12 PM

    What the bloody hell has praying got to do with running the country?? Oh hold on a sec…

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    Mute Sean McNally
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:17 PM

    Don’t tell me they can claim for a daily prayer allowance, as well.

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    Mute Ciaro
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:01 PM

    Ivana get my name in the news

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    Mute Kirk Delaney
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:20 PM

    You seriously would wonder at times if politicians really do have any sense of connection with the people.

    Do they honestly expect credit from the public when they see them debating such petty items while Rome burns!

    How do they think these petty items will be perceived by the public ?

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    Mute Paul O'Keeffe
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:47 PM

    Prayer? What? I object strongly to senators wasting time with this kind of cultish behaviour when they are on the clock. If you want to practice some ancient middle eastern goat herder rituals then do it on your own time.

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    Mute mike
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:21 PM

    What a load of shite. There should be none prayer at all. Or maybe we should all be paid to pray at work.

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    Mute Keith Patterson
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:23 PM

    an absolute joke. the sooner the seanad is gotten rid of the better!

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    Mute Sean O'Keeffe
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 1:25 PM
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    Mute Stephen Kearon
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 4:19 PM

    Much we prefer we keep the Seanad and dump the Church :-)

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    Mute Stephen Kearon
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 4:24 PM

    Typo: ignore first ‘we’

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    Mute Eileen Gabbett
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:21 PM

    Ha ha …. This is just too funny …
    God Rest Frank Carson , but he would get such a laugh outta this one …

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    Mute David McDermott
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 1:03 PM

    What a joke. When I go to work the office doesn’t stand for a poxy prayer. Do your jobs u idiots and stop wasting time. There should be no prayer or moments silence. This is ridiculous.

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    Mute John Scott
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 10:31 PM

    who voted this lady tothe senate. NO ONE/ also when will we hava a vote to get rid of some of the hangers on like her slef

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    Mute John Murphy
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:57 PM

    Why can’t the Christian members feck off to church to pray? I’m sick to the teeth of seeing ‘Christian’ members of our government pull strokes, lie and cheat and and then pander to the moral code of a religious belief to further underline their hypocrisy!
    And true Christian believers think that’s the way it should stay?
    The Christian religion is under such attack from the liars, cheats, paedophiles and criminals in it’s ranks that you would think that prayers from the mouths of these reprobates would be an insult to their beliefs, but there you go…!

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    Mute Revolting Peasant
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 1:03 PM

    the daily prayer? is the seanad run by a religious order or is it a democratically elected body, oh wait, its neither

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    Mute Cyril Butler
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:58 PM

    The idea of a Republic is the complete separation of Church and State. The fact that Catholics see religious neutrality as an attack on their religion shows just how deep Catholic culture has affected Ireland. I think most of Ireland recognises this but as usual our politicians are lagging behind. The Fianna Failers Republican Party slogan is yet another lie. I believe Ronan Mullin etc is entitled to his opinion but please don’t use the word nationalist or republican. I know he is an independent but the Fianna Fail old crowd are similar. You are willing to sacrifice your allegiance to the people of Ireland for that of Roman Catholicism.

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    Mute AlMar
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:25 PM

    Actually the idea of a republic is government by the people and not by a monarch. A republic may or may not have a complete Church-State separation, but this issue is not inherent in the concept of a republic.

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:36 PM

    Almar a Republic values all its citizens equally. Pushing religion down peoples throats is not a genuine Republic. You are taking your idea of a Republic from Iran. To value all the citizens equally you would need a Hindu, Islamic, Buddhist and Atheist tributes. We behave like a banana Republic when we act like this in our national assemblies. It is how our Catholic masters taught us and they were anything but Republic.

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 3:52 PM

    Cyril, What did the Romans ever do for us?
    Well apart from the drains and and such like there’s Republics, Senates and then all that praying…!

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    Mute Stephen Kearon
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 4:22 PM

    I’m a FF member and I support complete separation of Church and State, otherwise we’re not a true Republic

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 5:54 PM

    Do you do any church gate collections Stephen?

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:24 PM

    Senator Bacik sees this move as a ‘step forward’ in making Ireland more tolerant. The next step would presumably see a complete removal of the prayer which would, ironically, be intolerant of the views, traditions and heritage of Christian members of the chamber. So, as usual, Ms. Bacik seems to want ‘tolerance’, but only on her terms.

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    Mute Shauna McDermott
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:02 PM

    I don’t see what is wrong with making praying a personal, private act, at the discretion of the individual. Why should it be imposed on everyone? It is also particularly inappropriate in a government setting, a government which is supposed to, um govern over an increasingly multicultural society.

    It is a throwback to an older time of Church=State, and we do not want to go back to that.

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    Mute Tony Kavanagh
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:08 PM

    I thin her point is that the prayer is, as it curerntly stands, is Catholic/Christian. If prayer is to be included, surely it should cover all religions. In which case, what do you do about those of no religion? I fully appreciate the value and impact of prayer and spirituality but it is unfair that a Government of a pluralist society should focus on the prayer of just *part* of that society. Those with a faith and to whom prayer is important are probably already praying, so why is it necessary in this particular workplace?

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    Mute Stephen Johnston
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:10 PM

    Talking to your imaginary friend, and expecting everyone else to do likewise, on the State’s time, is a tradition we can do without.

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    Mute Mark Dennehy
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 5:37 PM

    We pay TDs and Senators to work. We pay them quite a lot of money to work, in fact, far more than in any other state. Nobody’s telling them they have to all be atheists; but it’d be kindof nice if they spent their working day, you know, actually working

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 1:07 PM

    Another reason to shut down the seanad. If there stupid enough to believe in religion then there too stupid to be making laws

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    Mute Liz Callaghan
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 12:23 PM

    The country was a better place when families, friends and workplaces got together to pray. The place has fallen apart since people have turned their back on spirituality. Maybe it’s time to start praying again as it costs nothing and gives so much back. Open your minds, hearts and souls.

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    Mute Stephen Johnston
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 1:21 PM

    Yes, I’m sure prayer time was a very special time in the Magdelene Laundries and Industrial Schools. Probably a short break from the beatings at least.

    Personally I want to see this prayer and reflection time docked pro-rata from the salaries of our elected representatives. Pray on your own time.

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    Mute Shauna McDermott
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 1:57 PM

    Yes indeed 1950′s Ireland was so much better in that golden age of Catholicism, modern, forward thinking, economically successful, treating all its citizens and young people with love and respect.

    We should totally go back to that.

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 7:12 PM

    Liz, I’d much prefer to help fix the place with real actions rather then asking “god” to fix up the place for us.
    Besides, I miss my lie ins on Sundays.

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    Mute Cyril Butler
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 11:14 PM

    It really is depressing that young adults are still getting caught up in this cult.

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    Mute Ed Appleby
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 1:30 PM

    Saying a prayer before they start their daily proceedings! WHY?, to WHO exactly are they praying? God?, which one? Why are these muppets even wasting time on this nonsense in the first place. If they believe in God(s) then can’t they do it on their own time, before they even go anywhere near the Seanad, it’s not like there aren’t any churches etc around the place, or maybe they could do it in their office. Religion has no place in politics and the waste of space that is the Seanad should at least try to give the tax payer a modicum of value for money instead of murmuring invocations to some fantasy deity. Whilst their at it they can write a letter to Santa Claus!

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:34 PM

    “Dear Lord, give me the courage to admit to the people of Ireland that I am in fact paid a fortune to do bugger all, that I make no contribution whatsoever to the economic, social or political viability of the country. But God, don’t give me the courage just yet, wait ’til I’ve clocked up a really decent lump sum and gotten enough publicity to successfully run for Europe; then I can milk that gravy train. Amen”

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    Mute Gavin McDonnell
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:41 PM

    I know a gravy train farmer, he doesn’t milk them though, uses them for Eu grants.

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    Mute John Murphy
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 4:01 PM

    I know a mixed metaphor farmer…

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 3:52 PM

    I’m an atheist, thank God.

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 1:02 PM

    I think the gobshites might be praying for some sort of divine intervention,

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 5:00 PM

    Why can’t they leave it at a moments silence and reflection. why can’t those who want to pray do it silently during the moment of reflection?
    Why does our government need to recite a set of spells and chants before starting work?

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    Mute Neil Murphy
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:08 PM

    They should replace the 30 seconds silence with 30 seconds of argument in favour of continuing the Seanad; I’d be surprised if they could fill 10 seconds. Ivana Batshit and the rest of that shower of useless unelected wasters should GTFO and stop wasting our time and money.

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 1:51 PM

    They should replace the prayer with the pause for reflection and be done with it.

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:10 PM

    Perhaps they could extend the period of silent reflection to 9 hours a day and let us all share the peace.

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    Mute John Dexter
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 5:04 PM

    Fair play to the Seanad, another radical strategic brainwave that is going to sort out the social welfare problems in Ireland, reduce hospital beds waiting times.. your a waste of hardworking taxpayers euros.

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    Mute Sebastian Manka
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 9:44 PM

    I learnt something new today. They pray in the Seanad. Nice. Is there any other country with prayers held in a parliament? Similarly, there are prayers in public-funded schools – a thing unheard of in rest of Europe. European Court of Human Rights has outlawed crucifixes in public schools. It’s now not only bigoted but simply illegal. This is very wrong and I wonder how many decades and sexual scandals are required to send religions in Ireland where they belong – to churches and private homes?

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    Mute Adam Long
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 6:28 PM

    Its progress in that it at least acknowledges that there exists a sizable number of us who do not adhere to catholic and christian beliefs, a number that is growing all the time. But religious and spiritual beliefs are private matters and should not intrude into the workings of a Parliament of a Republic.

    I would also like to see the same approach taken in the Dail, a suggestion put forward by Labour’s Aodhan O’Riordain recently.

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    Mute Donna Walsh
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 9:53 PM

    praying? and them robbing us and lieing through their teeth but sure they might be better to waste thrir hole day praying for all theire doing

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 7:43 PM

    Silent reflection is as much bullshit as the prayers.

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 10:36 PM

    The Seanad, my synopsis, a brunch party circus playground comprising of washed up uneducated relics or never made the cut so called politicians or oiled / teflon skinned clowns (Callely comes to mind) given an expensive leather chair and a Dail basement soapbox to preach to us about controlling viable and necessary circus legislation that brought our country up to its waist in backhanders, brown envelopes and Bull****.
    If they require 30 secs to reflect, they should reflect on their own justification, performance, their accountability , actual work completed and what it acheived and do a simple X by Y comparison of these metrics against the disgusting pay and allowances these useless shower receive. I work in an aggressive meritocratic business, If I don’t perform and I pay the price. Todays statement from the Seanad just empitomises how so far off the pulse of the irish people these clowns are. This is my second blog today .. I wont be commenting anymore because anger acheives nothing and these clowns will still claiming 50+ cent to the mile on expenses tomorrow.

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:25 PM

    Ivanna Beateedee :(

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    Mute Danny D
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 4:24 PM

    Seriously?!

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    Mute Chuck Farrelly
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    Feb 23rd 2012, 2:01 PM

    That’s exactly what they’re proposing!

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 4:27 PM

    Sounds like a very good inclusive compromise to me. Thumbs up for pluralism.

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    Feb 26th 2012, 12:20 AM

    One must have one’s reflection & prayers before commencing the order of ones business in the chambers! Why a session in chambers in the absence of the appropriate spiritual pre commencements is much like a bad merlot; heavy, dull & frightfully dreary.

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    Feb 23rd 2012, 9:40 PM

    The country is is crisis, half a million on the dole, and Labour Party worrying about 30 seconds of silence. I dont know whats worse, that 30 seconds of silence or it being given column inches!!! :-(

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