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IT’S BEEN TRULY historic day for Ireland.
The country voted clearly and decisively to repeal the Eighth Amendment.
It’s a huge win for those who campaigned against it and celebrations have already begun.
Here are the details for you to pour over:
Hello, Rónán Duffy here for the afternoon.
I won’t tease you with any preamble as we have a result coming in from Dublin Central…
The result is from Dublin Central and it’s a Yes, a big one.
The constituency has gone for Yes by a margin of greater than 3:1.
The Irish Times has spoken to the parents of Savita Halappanavar, who came out this week in favour of repeal.
They’ve said that would like the legislation giving effect to the referendum result to be named ‘Savita’s law’.
Savita’s father Andanappa Yalagi said:
I want to thank you so much. I want to say ‘Thank you’ to our brothers and sisters in Ireland for voting Yes. It is very important. There has been really a lot, too much struggle for the Irish ladies.
He and his wife, Akhmedevi have said they are were “very good” and awaiting the final result.
“We are really, really happy. We have one last request, that the new law, that it is called ‘Savita’s law’. It should be named for her.”
Two more results for you now, both from Cork and both Yes.
If you’re looking for your own constituency, we have all of the declared counts in one place:
Our reporter Daragh Brophy is in the Roscommon count centre and sent us this:
MEP Luke Ming Flanagan, who’s been speaking to me at the count centre in Roscommon Town, has described it as an “absolutely fantastic day”.
The Roscommon-Galway constituency has been the focus of some intense media coverage in recent weeks. The (now-defunct) constituency of Roscommon-South Leitrim was the only area to vote No to same-sex marriage three years ago.
Together for Yes campaigners are in jubilant form here this afternoon, and say the result is the culmination of months of hard work.
“It shows we’re not conservative we’re just complicated,” Flanagan said.
It’s strange to say about someone who is already Health Minister, but Simon Harris has in some ways burst into the mainstream political stage during the campaign.
He’s been getting a good reaction as people begin to gather in Dublin Castle.
Termination for Medical Reasons reflect on what has been a very long battle.
Sinn Féin TD Louise O’Reilly is wearing her Repeal t-shirt on RTÉ. She said the result made her think of her parents:
When I saw the exit poll last night I thought first about my parents. They campaigned against the Eighth Amendment in 1983. They said it was going to hurt women and they were right.
“I’m not shocked at the results as it was a reflection of what we were hearing on the doors.”
“I think when people saw people like Peter Boylan coming out and saying that the Eighth stopped us doing our jobs, people heard that very clearly.”
Speaking after O’Reilly, No campaigner and Independent TD Mattie McGrath said: “The people have spoken and I accept the will of the people. ”
He said that No voters, and their concerns, will have to be listened to.
He said that he expected Yes side to win but that’d it be a “bit tighter” in the result.
“Things have certainly changed since 1983,” McGrath added
We did tell you earlier that Simon Harris has been cheered pillar to post in Dublin Castle…
We have a result coming in from Wexford. Here it is:
In the marriage equality referendum, Roscommon-South Leitrim was the only constituency to vote No.
This time around, it’s tight, but Donegal may be the only constituency to vote to retain the Eighth Amendment.
The latest tallies show a 52% voting No in the referendum, although an official result has yet to be declared.
Speaking to Ocean FM, Minister of State Joe McHugh said:
It’s very interesting, there’s no natural urban-rural divide in the county… my own parish voted yes. You have no trend. It’s just really, really tight here.
However, the Donegal constituency does not cover the whole of the county.
The Sligo-Leitrim constituency contains part of south Donegal, including Bundoran and Ballyshannon, which voted heavily in favour of repeal with a Yes vote in excess of 60%.
Together for Yes obstetrician Mary Higgins have been giving her reaction in a Dublin Castle that has swelled with numbers.
“People listened to the stories and they took on the facts and the evidence and they believed it,” she said.
We have to give it the due respect, people are talking about about relief but for clinicians we feel a responsibility. In medicine, in midwifery and among doctors we have to do this properly.
Asked what it means for her she says:
“It means I can go to sleep and back to work on Monday and tell someone with a fatal foetal abnormality and say it will be different in the future.”
Three more more results for you, Wicklow and Carlow-Kilkenny and Waterford.
This is the state of play with eight constituencies in.
‘Up the Déise!’
One of the biggest cheers of the day greeting a 69% Yes vote in Waterford.
As part of RTÉ’s exit poll, people were asked what way they’d vote if there was a general election tomorrow.
It makes for fascinating reading
Prime Time’s David McCullough warns that the massive ‘don’t know’ vote skews the figures, but it’s fair to say that Taoiseach Leo Varadkar will happy.
Four more constituency results for you.
Former Labour Joan Burton has been giving her reaction
“It means that the Dáíl and the Seanad have the authority of the people to deal with the issue and help women in crisis pregnancies and stop the situations we know of, and all the sad, sad stories that helped make people make up their minds.”
What I detected in Dublin West was that it would be a minimum of 60-40 in favour. Meeting men in the doorstep with tears in their eyes saying there was someone in their family who’d had a fatal foetal abnormality.
“I think as the knowledge grew, people’s natural compassion grew and that translated into a Yes vote.”
“Horrific posters of bloody foetuses. So many mothers would say to me ‘can you take those pictures away from the school’. I thought those photos were very callous. I think any woman who ever had a miscarriage… I think it was deeply offensive to most women.”
Similar sentiments from current Labour leader Brendan Howlin who says legislation must now be passed in the Dáil.
“We need to afford it time and scrutinise it closely of course. But the general direction of travel is now established. We have our mandate from the people. Before we face them again as individual public representative and candidates this work should be done.”
Scenes in Dublin Castle this afternoon.
Pollster Kevin Cunningham of Ireland Thinks says that the exit poll results show that, while the Yes vote was strong among young people, it wasn’t the decisive factor.
Older age groups would also have passed the referendum.
Three more results now: Offaly, Tipperary and Dublin North West
Jess Casey of the Limerick Leader with a video from the Limerick count after the county votes big for repeal.
More emotion, this time from Dublin.
Workers’ Party councillor Éilis Ryan became emotional as she spoke about the result:
“The single biggest reason people voted yes because they belived women have a right to choose.”
International pro-life groups have been giving their reaction to Ireland’s historic decision today.
Jeanne Mancini, president of March for Life, the world’s largest annual pro-life rally, said:
“We are deeply saddened to learn that many Irish people voted against love and life by repealing the Eighth Amendment. Americans know from experience that there will be many grave and irreversible consequences to this decision, including the loss of precious lives.”
“A study released this week shows that legalising abortion greatly increases the number of children whose lives are terminated in the womb. Though they are the first, unborn children are not the only victims; abortion harms mothers too. “
The master of the National Maternity Hospital Rhona Mahony was a key person in this debate.
She delivered expert evidence at the Oireachtas Committee and has been campaigning to remove the Eighth Amendment for a number of years.
“It’s a very emotional day and I think it’s a very emotional day for all the women who have travelled or taken a tablet and have been excluded from our health system,” she says.
Mahony says that although many personal stories have been told publicly “there were also many stories told over kitchen tables and over glasses of wine”.
“We talk about 1983 and it was divisive but this has been a calm and informed debate,” she added.
Speaking to TheJournal.ie‘s Céimin Burke at the Galway West count centre, No campaigner and Fianna Fáil deputy Eamon Ó Cúiv admitted he has been “on the wrong side of referenda before”.
“I think the result is overwhelming clear and we obviously have to reflect on that now,” he said.
Asked about the impact of the result on him personally, he continued:
It doesn’t seem to affect things on the ground. There’s interesting precedent of that from the past… what happens in a referendum doesn’t seem to have any impact on general elections. If you ask me if I am quaking in my shoes that my seat’s gone then not particularly.
“The other thing is this, if you take a five-seater, I presume 30% in Galway West voted on the no side – that’s two quotas.”
However, he does not think we’ll be heading for the polls again this year.
“My understanding of the election timescale has always been that we’ll certainly see out this year. Micheál Martin has made it absolutely clear that there won’t be any election this year – he’s not calling an election.”
Do I think it’s going to last long next year? No, I don’t but I don’t think this will affect one way or another. Let’s be honest about it, all the big parties were in unanimous, well, all the leaders of the big parties were in unanimous vote.
“Well in Fianna Fáil, this issue is just a personal issue. Back to business in the other business tomorrow and we’ll just get on with things.”
Dr Peter Boylan was also speaking to reporters in the RDS count centre.
“Everybody’s gone into this with open eyes. They know what the legislation proposed is so I think politicians from all parties can take it that the legislation outlined by Government is what the will of the people is.”
My experience over the years in talking to women, particularly older women, was that they were ready for this change and it wasn’t just the issue of abortion, it was the way women had been treated by this state over the years.
“We all know the litany of abuse that women and children have suffered so I think it was part of the sequence of redress for all of the wrongs over the years.”
“Everybody’s views need to be respected. I think that came out particularly in stories about fatal foetal abnormality. A lot of those couples choose to continue on with pregnancy and they are looked after with all the compassion and care that we weren’t able to give to women who had to travel who chose not to go through to end of pregnancy but to deliver their much loved babies early and they kept momentos and so on.”
“Of course, we have sympathy and empathy with the people who voted not and they voted out of genuine concerns. Nobody has to have an abortion if they don’t want it and their views will be respected.”
More emotional reaction from Dublin Castle, this time from campaigner Frank Crummy.
Results time again, six quick hits here.
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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and Health Minister Simon Harris have arrived at Dublin Castle.
Varadkar is due to make a formal statement following the formal declaration of the result.
The declaration could come in the next hour or so as there are just 10 of 40 constituencies yet to declare.
There was debate about whether the courtyard in Dublin Castle would even be open to the public today.
It was opened. And it’s now almost full to capacity.
Meanwhile, Donegal is going down to the wire…
Our reporter Christina Finn is in Dublin Castle and she reports that while it is filling up, there are issues with microphones on the podium:
The atmosphere here in Dublin Castle is electric. There were thoughts that celebratory scenes would be muted but that is clearly not the case. The courtyard looks almost full to capacity and the cheers continue.
It’s clear from the reaction of the crowd to Health Minister Simon Harris that campaigners believe he is owed thanks for the result – one woman holds up an ‘I fancy Simon Harris’ poster.
The plans to not install a TV and mic system has angered some people in the crowd, who tell me the authorities should have expected such a reaction.
Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald gives her reaction to the result:
“I know even people who had a reservation or were uneasy or are alarmed today, I just want to say that this was another step forward in a more open tolerant Ireland for all of us.”
“I was out yesterday getting the vote out and I met a woman with her kids and she said it best: ‘Today I feel like Ireland is mine again’.”
“It says that all those voices that had been silenced, all those people who felt like they couldn’t speak out now can.”
“And now we are in a mature way, in a fair way, accepting the realities of Irish life. We have work today, we have legislation now to get through and I’ve every confidence that we will.”
Here are some more results, there are just three remaining now.
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Some more images as Dublin Castle waits for the final result.
Trying my best not to miss out on any result as they all come in, here’s one you haven’t got yet.
It’s Dublin Bay South and the biggest Yes vote in the country, with just three remaining.
It will likely stay that way too.
Cavan-Monaghan has gone Yes too.
Ever since the exit poll last night, many abortion rights campaigners have been saying that their next target is to bring Northern Ireland’s laws in line with Britain, and now Ireland.
A sign reading ’The North is next’ was being waved in the crowd in Dublin Castle and Sinn Féin’s Mary Lou McDonald and Michelle O’Neill are now making that promise.
An important update here Cork’s Red FM:
The speculation is that the result is being held so that it can by the announced as part of the official final declaration.
Just over three years after they celebrated the passing of the marriage equality referendum in the same Dublin Castle square, Katherine Zappone, now a minister, and Leo Varadkar, now Taoiseach, share a moment together.
Ireland’s new heartthrob Simon Harris has been getting a lot of love recently, particularly since his performance in this week’s debate.
And that love has come to a head in Dublin Castle today.
Late arrival to the party
More love coming from the stage in Dublin Castle. This time for Dr. Peter Boylan.
Our reporter Gráinne Ní Aodhá is there and she says that it’s looking like rain. We’ve been waiting a while for the official result, it would want to happen soon.
Ever wonder what goes on behind the camera? Our Facebook Live from Dublin Castle is being brought to you by Nicky Ryan and Gráinne Ní Aodha, who’s doing a great job as camera woman.
It’s getting a bit crazy down in Dublin Castle, a dog is there to witness history and people are loving it.
There’s a woman in Dublin Castle literally handing out After Eight’s. *Applause emoji*
Total poll: 2,159,655
Invalid votes: 6042
Total poll: 2,153,613
In favour: 1,429,981
Against: 723, 632
Majority in favour: 706,349
IRELAND HAS REPEALED THE EIGHTH AMENDMENT!
This is the final result.
Mopping up the other results. It’s been confirmed that Donegal was the only constituency in the country to vote against repeal.
Donegal voted by 2,42 votes to retain the Eighth Amendment.
‘YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.’
Crowds chant at the final result in Dublin Castle.
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar is speaking following the repeal of the Eighth Amendment. He promises to pass legislation by the end of the year.
Today is an historic day for Ireland. A quiet revolution has taken place, and a great act of democracy. A hundred years since women got the right to vote.
Today, we as a people have spoken. And we say that we trust women and we respect women and their decisions. For me it is also the day when we said No More. No more doctors telling their patients there is nothing that can be done for them in their own country. No more lonely journeys across the Irish Sea. No more stigma. The veil of secrecy is lifted.
No more isolation. The burden of shame is gone. When we went to the polls yesterday, some voted yes with enthusiasm and pride, but many others in sorrowful acceptance, with heavy hearts.
The ‘X’ marked on the ballot paper represented so much more than an individual vote. In 1983, 841,000 people voted to insert the eighth amendment into our constitution.
In 2018, almost every county, every constituency, men and women, all social classes, almost all age groups. We are not a divided country. The result is resounding.
This gives us the mandate we need to bring forward legislation and secure its passage by the end of the year.
Varadkar says that Ireland’s democracy is “vibrant and robust”:
We voted for the 200,000 Irish women who have travelled to Britain since 1983 to end their pregnancies. For the couples who shared their stories of returning home with tiny coffins. For the young and the not so young women, who spoke their truth. For those whose stories have still not been heard. I said in recent days that this was a once in a generation vote.
Today I believe we have voted for the next generation. We have voted to look reality in the eye and we did not blink. We have voted to provide compassion where there was once a cold shoulder, and to offer medical care where once we turned a blind eye.
At the beginning of this campaign I called for a respectful debate, one that was never angry or personalised. I think that by and large we succeeded. Our democracy is vibrant and robust and can survive divisive debates and make difficult decisions.
A LANDSLIDE
“Unexpected. Shocking. Overwhelming. Flabbergasting. A silent Yes vote,” are the words of TheJournal.ie‘s News Editor Sinead O’Carroll.
She’s put together a summary of how the 40 constituencies voted and points out that fourteen constituencies returned Yes votes of over 70%.
We mentioned earlier that campaigners were looking towards Northern Ireland as the next goal.
The Alliance Party’s Naomi Long told the BBC that she agreed, “all eyes will focus on Northern Ireland – we are again a place apart”, she said.
Long added that NI will continue to export people abroad, away from their families, at a time when they need that support more than ever
This was the view from the stage at Dublin Castle as the crowd reacted to the Yes result being announced.
Some perspective on the Donegal result from Sinn Féin Senator Padraig MacLochlainn.
Doctors for Choice Ireland (DfC) has welcomed the overwhelming result of a Yes vote in the referendum on the Eighth Amendment to the Irish Constitution. Dr Mary Favier, co-founder and spokesperson for DfC said:
“After years of witnessing the harms of the Eighth Amendment and campaigning to have it removed, we are delighted to see this momentous result for Ireland and Irish women.”
“A Yes result may go some way to repair the hurt and suffering the Eighth Amendment has caused for the estimated 170,000 Irish women and girls that have had to travel for abortions since 1980, and the uncountable number who have taken illegal medication abortion pills bought online; women who the state abandoned: legally, morally and when they most needed healthcare.”
The Irish College of General Practitioners has says that is “welcomes the clarity” brought about the result. The GP group says that it “awaits the passing of amending legislation for the management of crisis pregnancy.”
With all the votes in, it’s been confirmed that the turnout for yesterday’s referendum surpassed that of the same-sex marriage referendum.
Voter turnout was 64.13%, greater than the 61% turnout for 2015.
On the fly, I’ve put together some analysis of Ireland’s vote: Six reasons why Ireland was a landslide Yes for repeal
Campaigners have been seeking the removal of the amendment for many years and there have been several fateful events that brought the issue into the national consciousness.
In recent years pressure to repeal has been building, culminating in today’s result.
But why is it that people voted in such numbers repeal?
Here are Six reasons why Ireland was a landslide Yes for repeal
Well, that was really something. It was a truly incredible day for Irish democracy and I hope we helped you experience and understand it all.
I’m logging off now but my colleague Michelle Hennessy is going to keep going with some more reaction to the result.
Thank you all and goodbye,
Rónán.
Have you checked how your constituency voted? You’ll find all the results here.
People have been drawn to this mural of Savita over the last couple of days. There are emotional scenes there right now:
That’s not ideal…
Sky News’ Kay Burley wasn’t too happy with the Taoiseach moving in on her turf:
Our reporter Aoife Barry spent the day at the RDS in Dublin. She has described the atmosphere there and the emotion of those who gathered for the result:
As they stood in the RDS count hall on Saturday afternoon, surrounded by campaigners and reporters, you could almost hear them exhale after weeks of pent-up nerves. For Amy Walsh, whose baby daughter Rose was stillborn at Liverpool Women’s Hospital, the results were a “huge relief”.
She and the other parents who spoke were not just thinking of themselves – they were thinking of the other parents who would be given FFA diagnoses in the future, a future where legislation would allow them to decide what they want to do, to make a choice that, should it include termination, would not have to involve travelling far from home.
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They should print this onto toilet paper.
Just going for a Donald Trump…
You say offensive I say truth
You say truthful, I say idiotic.
“The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive
Donald Trump
What about what he says about Mexicans?
Amen Alan.
Amen.
The truth hurts.
And hurts Libtards the most.
I wonder is he going to do a portrait of Caitlyn driving to close to that old lady who he/she killed while he/she was taking his toy quad bike to the beach?
Or the other 10 people including young children who had to be rushed to hospital because he was obviously driving too close to the car on front of him?
Truth sounds like hate to those that hate truth
Mexicans?
What about them….lovely people, started a lot of small to medium businesses in the US. Or would you prefer the English approach of, No Dogs, No Blacks, No Mexicans
Trump loves Mexicans. He just want them to come in legally in a controlled fashion. Makes sense. However Trump hates that businesses use migrants to lower the wages of Americans. He hates for example that businesses are using the h1b1 visa racket to import migrants and then they get their American workers to train them to do their jobs before they firing them.
Ye you’re right sure trump is only making up the crime and drug stats for the Mexicans.Must be great living in that little bubble of yours Steven.hopefully you’ll experience the real world someday.
“Trump loves Mexicans” Brilliant satire!
Stephen Coveney Are you for real . i am sure there are lots of good business women and men but have you been to the states or seen the gang problem in california to name one state .Most of these mexicans in the state are cleaner/maids/gardeners or work picking fruit in the fields or drug smugglers . Have you been to mexico and seen the crime and cartels associated with the import of drugs to the usa .
He’s from blackrock,probably not used to mixing with the common folk.God love him if he ever does
@Robert
Yes Ive been to the states. As you said most of the Mexicans are cleaners/maids/gardeners, NOT rapists/muderers/etc that Trump is trying to say they are, he is using immigrants as an excuse for why any american person is not fulfilling their potential!
@gkrell
Yes, controlled immigration is the best solution, I dont disagree with you on this point. But I also know from personal experience that illegal immigrants do hold down good jobs for years and then become legal citizens of america without committing any crimes. This has happened for the past century.
Trump will be president…. Freeloaders will worry….
He is a friend of Israel, disagrees with the Iran deal, wants to wipe out Isis. I thought he’d be right up your street Stephen :)
I agree with this, your heart is in a good place Stephen.
Stephen . Illegal mexican do commit alot of crime in the USA . its a fact . LAPD most wanted top ten in los angeles . These are the sort of people Trump is talking about http://www.lapdonline.org/top_ten_most_wanted . There are over 500 latino gangs in La .
More of the people Trump was talking about . 8 out of 10 have mexican ties or were born there . This are FBIs top 10 https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/murders
Trump is bringing up the issues that the other threadbare sockpuppets won’t touch.
Vaccines and anchor babies being a just couple of the many.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AffuKjGV6BA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBIan7RXz0Y
I wish we had someone in Irish politics who was half the man he is.
Illegal entry into another country is a crime, that’s why they are illegal aliens so by their very nature they are lawbreakers. They hurt people who are working the legitimate process and make a mockery of the legal system. To say they enter the country and work years without committing a crime is a breakdown in logic.
@O neill
Im not really too enamoured with the way Israel go about protecting themselves. I actually agree with Obama trying to brin Iran back on side, they seem to be the moderates in the region these days! Well the Shia part of Islam. Yes we all want to wipe out ISIS but Trumps idea is to bomb them?? All off them including any citizens that happen to be around them?
But I acknowledge that the US citizens are pi$$ed off with politicians, like us, and see him as a fresh idea.
@Stephen Coveney Fair play, I think Obama played a stormer with Iran. His use of diplomacy at the expense of another devastating and costly war was superbly handled and will be his lasting legacy. Off course this p*ssed off Bobi Nethanyahu but that was predictable – the man is a nutter imo.
Robert, how do you know these are Mexicans?
@Stephen Coveney,
What part of illegal don’t you understand?
If they’re illegal they should be deported, end of story.
That applies to the Irish over there as well.
“What part of illegal don’t you understand?
If they’re illegal they should be deported, end of story.
That applies to the Irish over there as well.”
What part of trying to deport 11m don’t you understand ?
Have you a breakdown of the figure of how many illegal Irish are there and what cost to the Irish taxpayer that this will cost ?
Have I mentioned that Obama has deported over 2 million since he came into office ?
How will Trump surpass this ? Answers on a white hood.
James Well they are not irish Read the piece about them or the fact that they have hispanic names or even they are now in mexico .or the fact they are connected to the mexican drug cartels . FFS
“I wish we had someone in Irish politics who was half the man he is.” Johnnyneary
“Quick Michael”
“Stand to attention and grovel for the foreign serial philanderer and bankrupt.” Johnnyneary July 2014
Poor pet is very confused about Mr Trump .
on toilet paper he will live his dream of getting rid of the browns
At this point, I’m almost rooting for Trump. The US is fscrewed whether it’s Trump or Clinton. I’d like t see the media establishment on this side of the Atlantic get a severe kick in the bollix . Trump can do that simply by getting elected against their collectives wishes and wants. The more they attack him, the stronger he gets.
Incredible really the number of liberal media pundits who earn a living as opinionated parasites feeding off Conservative utterances.
Pipe down oran ye clown
It’s clear that the US appetite for liberalism is fast fading for now. Something big is happening in the US that no-one has documented as of yet. Perhaps they instinctively know themselves it’s time for a conservative government for a while.
I beg your pardon.
For Gerard.
He said pipe down Oran ye clown.
“It’s clear that the US appetite for liberalism is fast fading for now. Something big is happening in the US that no-one has documented as of yet. Perhaps they instinctively know themselves it’s time for a conservative government for a while.”
Explain the surge of Bernie Sanders. He attracts the same or larger crowds as Trump. He is a socialist. Quite far to the left.
Sanders is unlikely beat Clinton, and the most important piece of polling information to come out of all of this so far is the willingness of 20% of Clinton’s supporters to defect to Trump. That’s scaring the shit out of Hilary and the democrats. That’s the game changer.
I think Oran has a great point about the liberal media feeding off big show conservatives like Trump. Trump feeds off them too though. Trump comes out with a huge amount of BS but instead of rational criticism he gets overblown outrage. Just helps his “cause”
Can’t believe he hasn’t fallen off yet. Genuinely giggled when he announced all that time ago. Apart from weak political opposition to him, he has clearly hit a nerve across the States.
They said the same about Hillary in 2008 about an unknown first term black senator. We know how that story played out 8 years later.
He is a winner and Americans love winners.
Sad thing is, because of the Trump hate fascination with people, all the other US presidents who did nothing but move the world back get a free pass….. Maybe with Trump, the common sense answers might get applied to real life, not nasty congressmen/women and víle corporate leaders having there anti human agendas……
Vile
A winner because of FOUR bankruptcies .Cool.
four bankruptcies is what, 500 businesses? Sounds like he did well.
You got to give it to Trump . People in Europe are talking about him the whole time wehter it be good or bad . Enda or Cameron would love that sort of pubilicity . Hes made the election in the states interesting . Funny thing is hes pissed off Fox and the most of the GOP who are pro GOP . The only way for Saunder to suceed is for Hillary to be arrested by the FBI for her email mess . Cruz is a much more dangerous canidate . Cruz would like tocarpet bomb ISIS until the sand is glowing .
Goes with the territory besides they were. ‘Chapter 11′ bankruptcies. These type if bankruptcies are designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to keep those businesses alive, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the companies.
Great lad to run your country..Investors lose all their monies ,people lose their jobs,lose their homes,lose their pensions..Trump don’t care..
Wasn’t he bailed out TWO or THREE times by the Prince that he trolled the other night?
But he’s a hero ,Rosie,and he is being endorsed by the salt of the earth David Duke who was previously known as the Grand Wizard of Louisiana..
Cruz is more dangerous than Trump because he knows what he wants to do ..
@Robert
Thats the problem. Politics really isnt supposed to be that interesting. Its about making hard decisions even though you know some people will hate you (otherwise we’ll all be able to sort everything out!). Thats what Trump seems to be doing but all his is doing is throwing out the easiest answer to gain support. It wont work! Its politics at its dumbest form! We all know deep down that if we took the easiest road every time we’d be isolated in the end
You are right about David Duke endorsing him,Francis..
And not only alone will he struggle getting the Hispanic votes but, he will definitely struggle getting the majority of women to vote for him …It’s a historical Repiglican thing of trying to control women…Very silly of them really ..
Trump is dangerous because he will never be a puppet
No, he is dangerous because he is an ignorant buffoon who cannot take criticism and has a well documented dislike of women whom he cannot dominate. He is a legend in his own mind.
Trump is doing exactly what he is told to do and that is to create hate and division , but he is never meant to win the Presidency because Hilary has already been picked and then she is going to work on that hate and division like the pyschotic individual she is.
So says Fox news ,
If Hilary Clinton gets in then God help America and the rest of the World.
Why?
@CO’Neil
?? seven seconds of her laughing (or ‘cackling’ as its titled). Next you’ll be telling me about the melting point of steel and michelle obama?
What the hell are you on about!?
Did you actually click on your own link?
The perpetually offended PC class are really scared of Trump. People love that finally somebody is standing up to them but there are many good reasons why people like Trump and are going to vote for him in droves.
There’s a big appetite for anyone that holds up the 2 fingers to modern faux-outrage of any kind. People are sick to the back teeth of it.
I’m of the belief in the very near future it’ll not only be widely accepted, but will make good business too to give the 2 fingers to the twitterazi. That bubble is ready to be burst now.
Trump takes no Donations from corporations , Goldman Sachs ( Rothschild )got Obama thru the line , in return he became their puppet . Trump cannot be a puppet , nostradamus predicted Obama will be the last president of the USA , another meaning to that could be the last puppet … New world order getting very fearful of a trump victory
Trump will be a lobbyist in power.Cool.
You can’t be dropping the N-Bomb (nostradamus) like it ain’t no thing..
Trump takes zero lobby money. It’s a hallmark of his campaign.
@Cap
“Notradamus blah blah blah…”
What was the exact quote? Im waiting for another one that predicts september 11th.
“Trump cannot be a puppet” So is every leader in the world a puppet to money according to you? (probably you think Putin isn’t?)
Stephen , yes all leaders are puppets except for 3 .. north Korea , Cuba and Iran .. the only 3 countries without a Rothschild controlled central bank
PC art for the outraged masses.
Produced by artists with little or no creative intelligence.
Show us your own paintings, Oran. We could all do with a hearty laugh.
Hold on.
I’ll cobble together a composite of idiotic liberal pronouncements and title it:
‘Theoretical vacuousness’ ..Abstract in crayon.
Actually, I could be a while here………..
@Oran
Trump has no answers. It is democracy on steroids to what’s here. All solutions to everyone’s fears.
Give him time as he’ll figure it out,Stephen..
Trump has no answers, I agree. But look at the free pass Hilary Clinton gets from the media by comparison. The Journal runs an article or 2 a day on him. yet nothing on Clinton despite the fact she’s up to her neck in shit and has been for almost 40 years.
@Papa
The article ratios are in response to how much attention he is getting in the states.
And dont get me wrong, he has played the game very well, as all politicians have to. But he has no clear ideas apart from the fear inducing ones and cant really see him bullying leaders around the world the way he has the other republicans, which is his only way of doing politics
I like people who tell it as it is, he is the only one who tells the pure unvarnished truth.
we could do one of Enda using all his lies
Trump?, I would be looking the other direction!
East. Putin is a complete horror story.
Already annexed Russia speaking territories ,
Murdered his critics in foreign cities ( London) and on his own streets. Has a state media , military and a large portion of the Russian population behind him.
And you smug close minded people constantly looking west.
Donald Trump is the least of your problems.
Trump is victorious cos Obama failed miserably
“Trump is victorious cos Obama failed miserably”
13 million private sector jobs created in over 5 years – failure
Unemployment at 5% – failure
Has reduced the deficit – failure
Saved the American auto car industry-failure
Affordable Health Care Act that’s provided health care to millions of Americans-failure
Dropping the uninsured rate to a historic low of 11.9 percent. -failure
Ordered the killing of Osama Bin Laden-failure
Wants pay equality for women (not really )a Republican thing-failure
Historic nuclear deal with Iran -failure
Deported over 2 million illegals since he came to power -failure
Bi-partisan agreement a few years back on his Immigration Bill only for Bonehead and his tea party stopping it-but we blame Obama ..
Passed a historic credit card reform -failure
Bush gave two fake wars and a country that was losing about 800,000 jobs a month ..These two fake wars will cost the American taxpayers ‘SIX TRILLION DOLLARS’ over a forty year period ..BUSH HERO .
Trump is all mouth but I’m sure that you & he will figure that out one out,too,in time to come.
Well the Don has simple solutions to complex social and economic problems perhaps the US should let him have a go at running the economy. A bit like SF here.
Can’t believe somebody wasted more than ten seconds on him!
“Offensive”, to whom?
Does anybody give a hoot that Collins’s parents are both Irish.
Trump will probably buy it.
It doesnt look like a dick????????
Go Trump. We love you!
Donald Trump; “I’m killing them in the polls. I’m killing them on immigration, I’m killing them on defense. And when I get elected, I’m going to kill everybody!”
Fight fight fight
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