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THINK OF CARLSBERG, and you will, er, probably think of its famous slogan: “Probably the best lager in the world.”
But thanks to a new makeover, the Carlsberg brand is ditching its tagline and going for a new one: “That calls for a Carlsberg.”
The company made the announcement today, saying that the new-look marketing campaign is currently being rolled out across 140 markets, including Ireland. The Irish launch will include a new 30-second TV ad, ‘Spaceman’.
Carlsberg’s Senior Vice President of Global Sales, Marketing, and Innovation, Khalil Younes, said “it is time we take Carlsberg to the next level”.
The brand’s new logo will carry the brewer’s star, the hop leaf and the words ‘Copenhagen 1847′, the city and date when Carlsberg was first brewed.
What do you think of the brand new ‘Spaceman’ ad? And more importantly, will it ever be as big a hit as the Carlsberg ad that namechecked Sharon Ni Bheolain a few years ago?
Ming got crucified over 4points. Id expect Lowry to be burned at the stake.
Does anyone know what the point of the tribunals was. As far as I can see, no criminal prosecutions or convictions were allowed to come from them. They only seemed to be a gravy train for the lawyers.
Help please.
Maybe but he is a fine gaeler and it happened at the time fine gael were in government, plus there are many around the cabinet table today who were in the same government as lowry
Would we be shocked if FG took a different approach to lowry than they have been to ming, so far they seem to think Ming’s action is more serious than lowry’s
Its ok, he’ll use Ming’s defense.
It’s everyone else fault!
It’s Friday of the Paddy’s day weekend.
Dáil don’t sit on a Friday, even if it did the “Great & Good” of FG (the ones who have not been caught yet), are all away with the birds on “Government” business at our expense.
They all hope this will blow over before they return, so they can keep up screwing us and not being accountable to us.
Bring back FF I say, at least we know them to be what they are.
In fairness to FG, at least he was never allowed back into the party. Unlike Beverly Cooper Flynn. Sure she was barely out of FF a wet week before she was back in. And at least they weren’t relying on his vote to stay in power like the last coalition. However, seeing FG people playing golf with Lowry doesn’t inspire confidence at all.
Is it Gardaí policy that any criminality by TD’s needs to be aired on national TV before it’s investigated?
Michael
What has the airing of the tape got to do with the Gardaí? A journalist got the tape and has publicised it, it has nothing to do with the Guards and they couldn’t stop it even if they wanted to.
@Bo11ocks_to_this I believe the tribunals investigate the issues and then hand over the findings to the relevant authorities who then proceed in trying to get convictions. Not sure why it’s done that way but there you go.
Here’s a little song for background music for you as you read political articles ……………
Michael Lowry is Fianna Fails liability now. FG threw him out of the party a decade ago. FF were letting him order off the menu for his own constituency and thus ensuring his reelection just to keep the last catastrophic Government clinging to power that little bit longer. Micheal Martins FF Government, lest we forget.
@Bo11ocks_to_this
I thought it was obvious what the purpose of the tribunals was, to make sure none of the Galway test set ever went before the courts. How many people were charged over the beef tribunals? One, the journalist who broke the story, her crime, not revealing her sources.
Well said Carcu
FG and FF: two heads of the same cancer, or do I mean chancer.
“If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck then it must be a duck”
How will the 10,000 people in Tipp that voted for this guy feel now?
Its all Dublin’s fault and if Dublin wasnt so high and mighty then he’d be grand, I blame Dublin,feckin Dublin!
They’ll assume it is Mario Rosenstock and that Lowry is as innocent as ever.
They don’t care! Sure people have known what he’s been like for years, but as long as he gets the potholes fixed sure who cares!! People didn’t care about Bertie in the 2007 election either, or Haughey before that, so I don’t think it’s just a Tipp thing unfortunately. It’s very depressing.
It is the culchies who keep voting the crook in! :-)
It was the Dubs that voted Bertie and Haughey in!
Lol so true. We should all just elect dustin the turkey. Sure he’s your only man :-)
Northsiders!
And Ray Burke don’t forget and Liam Lawlor and the Mayo gang for Flynn after Flynn, Tipp no different to other places really but convenient to hammer the voters.
The powers that be know more than the ordinary person and they take no action except in Lowrys case they kicked him out of FG but he continues to be best pals with his old friends in that party in HQ and in Tipp.
They won’t give a shit as proven by the fact he got re-elected the last time. Can’t stand the man and never voted for him but he’s got his Thurles Mafia and the rest covered so he’ll always get re-elected until he opts not to run.
With regards to Liam Lawlor being voted in by Dubs, My dad was at one of the counts in either the early ’82 or ’87′ general election when miraculously out of nowhere, late in the night/morning, Lawlor pulled a few hundred votes from the sky outdoing Tomas MacGiolla!!Guess who was the chief voting returns officer in charge of events that night….George Redmond ….my dad and those who were there that night couldn’t believe what was happening…cant be proven nor disproven but these people are a different breed and would do anything to win power…so I wouldn’t have put it past Lawlor…
the fools would vote for him again
I’d half expected him to ring in sick today, instead he was over in Cheltenham!
Listening to the tapes last night I wasn’t at all shocked at the content but his use of expletives bordered on illiteracy. Hope to god he never stands for election again cos there’s plenty fools would vote for his type.
Jail the fu€ker I say!
Michael
That ensures a fair trial cannot happen so not point in investigating let alone charge.
as happened before this buffoon would top the poll in his area will voters never learn in this country i dont think so
It’s amazing this man is allowed walk through the doors of Dáil Eireann. Enda’s buddy…Corrupt to the core!
He did save FG from going Bankrupt in the mid 90′s,might explain the misplaced Enda and several other senior FG figures have for Lowery.
He’s allowed because the people voted him in. We’re the only ones who can stop them walking through the doors of the Dáil.
Cormác
Enda or Michael?
What is worse is that I’d almost believe that what I saw on TV3 last night was little more than a figment of my imagination. A quick google search throws up the journal.ie, and newswhip.com as the only news sources in the entire country that have bothered to cover this story in any way shape or form.
RTE appear not to have mentioned it on either radio or television (unless I missed something). So called Newstalk have given it a wide birth entirely, which I suppose is hardly a surprise when one considers who owns that particular organization.
One thing for sure, the silence is deafening.
@Dawg – And the Sindo, which broke the story in the first place.
I agree with you about RTE. They seem to be scared off anything mildly controversial since the bogus tweet and the Kevin Reynolds debacle. Current Affairs is lame populist whining these days. I have no idea what the point of it is supposed to be, and even less idea why licence payers are supposed to fund it.
Pat Kenny’s wages that’s why.
Yes @Emily, Elaine Byrne has a spine made entirely of tungsten steel. A picture in any dictionary next to the definintion of “journalist”.
Kudos to Paul Hyland and the Journal.ie for covering this story today.
I wonder is it legally permissible to conscientiously object to paying RTE a licence fee?
4500 of us will pay our tv licence or broadcasting charge should I say, to cover Pat Kennys wages. Money well spent?
Just a little point about the Broadcast Charge ; If Michael Lowry was in his old position of Minister for communications then he would be collecting it………..
Or to put it another way ; Pat Rabbitte is the successor to Michael Lowry’s Department ……… and another previous incumbent was Ray Burke ! ………………
Now I’m off to buy a few fish ………. I love the smell of fishy on a Friday !
Brilliant journalism by elaine byrne in the sunday independent who got this story
Well done to vincent browne on airing the tapes
Shame on rte and the FG/Labour government for doing absolutely nothing about it
What it illustrates is we do not have any real idea of what goes on behind closed doors of big business and politicians
RTE always the last to let the poulation know what is happening and only then if they have no choice but to broadcast.
well said jenny the goverment media machine RTE is an extension arm of the goverment the time has come to get rid of RTE it does not serve the people .
Yes, the relationship between them can be summed up in the phrase, “we’re not going to hurt each, now, are we?”
Shocking content on this tape and damning to say the least. I would worry about the admissibility of such a tape in our justice system, given that it was made without consent. I can see something like that being the stumbling block. The court of public opinion however has already reached a verdict.
Re. Fine Gael. Vincent Browne himself pointed out last night that FG was a major beneficiary of political donations around the time of the state issuing of the mobile phone licence. The party, which was almost nearing bankruptcy in opposition, was absolutely rolling in it with funds via political donations when they entered Government. I simply don’t accept that FG were blissfully unaware why all of this cash was rolling in. Lowry was their biggest fund raiser according to comments made on VinB last night.
I would expect our Taoiseach to call for a resignation, at the very least.
Why? All parties were raising funds in a similar fashion. It was the norm at the time.
Because, according to comments on the VinB show last night, some of the parties making donations to the FG party at this time were either directly or indirectly interested parties in the awarding of the licence, which was under the control of the then Minister Lowry on behalf of a FG led coalition.
That’s not the same context as ‘all other parties’ fundraising activities at this time. And it is well you know it too.
Brian it still is the norm .
Would be amazed if the tape was admissible as evidence. All sorts of data protection-type issues there Lowry could use to stop that I would have thought.
how many times has this man got to be caught before he is charged with something
The silence from the media especially RTE today is disgraceful. Not even a brief mention of it on Pat Kenny show. Regina Doherty TD (she whose company was wound up owing debts of €286,000, €60,000 to Revenue ) was taking the moral high ground over Ming on Kenny but not a word on Lowry.
RTE should be sold . It’s a joke. They moved to Rome en masse this week. If that’s true about R. Doherty then she should pay up any arrears to Revenue , and find some humility!
The lack of interest the government has shown in relation to this affair is amazing,considering 10 members of the present government were members of the government Lowery was forced to resign from.
What do you want them do? They can’t do much at all. There was a motion of censure passed against him after the Moriarity Tribunal, but sure that doesn’t do anything really at all. It’s a matter for the Gardaí now, so you don’t want the Government getting involved, tampering with the investigation and possibly allowing him off on a technicality.
On the big picture, it’s actually a good thing that the executive can’t sanction a member of the legislature, as this would be bad from a separation of powers and democratic point of view.
Has Enda accepted the findings of Moriarity yet?
Why did Lowery still up till very recently have such favourably access to senior FG ministers Hogan&Reilly to name but two.
@Jenny No I don’t think enda has actually stood up in the dail and accepted the findings of the tribunal, makes you wonder
But as long as mainstream media don’t make an issue of it, it doesn’t make its way into the pulic
That’s incorrect. If you would just take 5 minutes of your time and actually look up Oireachtas.ie you would clearly see that Enda Kenny has accepted the findings of the Moriarity Tribunal. He called it: “A devastating critique of a powerful elite exposing a gross abuse of privilege; a rank abuse of public office and a devastating abuse of public trust is”. It’s all here: http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2011032900019?opendocument
Can people please get their facts right and stop speculating.
@ Ignoreireland ……………… Talk is cheap ….what has he done about it ? ………….. unleashed C.A.B. ? ………………
@Dermot Ryan, again, if you look at another comment of mine, what can he do? And I for one am certainly glad that the Government doesn’t have the power to direct the Gardaí or CAB to prosecute anybody. Imagine if they did? I’m not attacking this government particularly, but any Government could potentially use such a power to silence political opposition. It’s the mark of a democracy that Government power is limited, and on issues like this, when we’re talking about due process and allowing a plurality of political views to be held, it’s of vital importance that the Government can’t force him to resign or direct the Gardaí or CAB to prosecute him. It’s up to us the people to eject him from his seat. I know it sucks to see him in the Dáil, collecting his salary and earning his pension, but that’s the people of Tipperary’s fault, not the Government’s.
but isn’t the fundamental problem …the Taoiseach IS supposed to be in charge ! ….what if the Director of Public Prosecutions is in the pocket of someone …..I’m not saying they are but the taoiseach should be able to sack corrupt officials or incompetent ones ….that’s why the taoiseach’s term should be restricted to one term …it would remove the fear that all politicians have of not being re-elected and it would let them concentrate on the job of getting rid of corruption ……. We need to change the system or we are just on a spiral to nowhere !
By the way I wanted Enda Kenny to be the greatest Taoiseach this Country has ever seen based on the words spoken at the last election , admittedly he is restricted but we the people gave him the largest majority in the State to do what had to be done , to do what he said he would in the safe knowledge that the people were behind him 100% ….I’m genuinely sorry to say that from where I’m sitting that has not and will not be done by this or any government that exists under the current system ! ………The Central bank now decides whether you are evicted or not …… Anglo, the most corrupt bank swept under the carpet , I could go on but hopefully you see my point !
And by the way the key to sorting Ireland out is a strict adherence to the Irish Constitution …that is what gives the Taoiseach Power not legislation !
@Ignoreland
Enda did not utter the words that he accepted the findings of the moriarty tribunal, you should actually read what he said
This from micheal marting after enda spoke
Deputy Micheál Martin: I welcome the publication of the final report of the Tribunal of Inquiry into Payments to Politicians and Related Matters. I accept fully the conclusions of the Moriarty tribunal, and I note that sentence is missing from the Taoiseach’s address. The Taoiseach needs to clarify prior to the conclusion of this debate that he accepts the conclusions and findings of the Moriarty report
So you’re trying to argue that he rejects the findings or the Moriarity Tribunal? Or that he doesn’t accept them because he hasn’t expressly said that he does in the extremely narrow and formalistic way that you’ve defined ‘accepting’ to be? So basically you’re going to completely ignore everything else that he said and the substantive content of what he said? Are you serious? Are you that pedantic??
lets have the full truth warts and all. Long time coming why is another question
Lowery made reference to K Phelan’s family to a Senator,Phelan became aware of this and released the tape.Check out VB on the 3 player,tape is shocking.
Truth warts n all would put the majority of the FG party in the same standing as lowery, greedy, corrupt, stroke pulling, brown envelope taking fcukers!!
FG the same corrupt party as FF.
Ryan- and every time you repeat that lie…the FF spiel “sure they’re all the same”…you sow the seeds of the next FF Government.
How’d you work that one out kev? I’m putting both corrupt parties into the same pot. Same game different name, here’s hoping sensible people can see that and vote out FG just as quick as they voted FF out.
Ryan- do I really need to trot out the dozen senior FF politicians caught out over the last number of years? Not county councillors- ministers, senators, TD’s and Taoiseach’s, no less? On doing so, you’ll trot out the dozen comparable FG politicians who were similarly tainted, thus proving that “they’re all the same”? No? Of course not. Because they’re not. And you can’t back up what you’re spouting. As usual.
Is boon not a member if the bilderberg grouping? Did he not attend said group on public funds and what was said at said meeting?
I don’t need to back anything up FG are the sane as FF…..warts n all and in years to come we will see the true extent if their own backhanders (primary care centre anyone, nursing home conflict of interest anyone)
Save your breath you won’t convince me that FG are any different.
Hahahaa *boon=Noonan*
Though the typo might be right this time.
Thought so, Ryan. Embarrassed for you.
You must confuse me with some one who gives a sh1t what you think.
Lets face it lads, they are all bloody corrupt…end of!
If this man ever gets even 1 more vote, North Tipp should be napalmed! Surely this will now convince them of his agenda!
I love the smell of Napalm in the morning, smells like LO-w-Ry. ( do this in you best Colonel Kilgore voice).
One of these days this war is gonna end son, one of these days this war is going to end
Higgins where art thou i want your opinion man
Seeing as he is on a sabbatical ….. this might amuse you in the meantime take the phrase “That’s Brilliant” and say it in a liverpudlian accent …think John Bishop ! ………… it’s very annoying and it won’t go away !
He should see jail time, others would for less!
He’ll keep his pension though, is he being paid his ministerial pension and his TD wage at the same time!
Lowry is corrupt.
Are we due to make some sort of payment? Nothing will come of it.
He just admitted tax fraud. With interest and penalties should come to a nice little bill. Direct Revenue investigation. Banrupcy + Jail time + booted out of the Dail= long deserved justice
Is that kind of language acceptable from a sitting TD?
F**k you, Deputy Stagg! F**k you!! That is most unparliamentary language!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD-xxoQwOo4
“You’re a shower of knackers”Phil Hogan to a memeber of the Press.
Fair point Ignoreireland but where is Gogarty now?
and an addendum …….Emmet Stagg’s history is not exactly snow-white ………. which brings me back to Ming …I would love to know who the arresting Gardai were on the night in the Phoenix Park and where they are now ….
Anything less than jail time for this crook will show this country once again to be a corrupt cesspit.He has to be charged and brought to account.The smarmy bxxstxxd. Come on Enda say say something about your former party fundraiser.
Is this really such a big revelation? Tribunals, etc, have shown that this behaviour has been rife for years. Nothing will happen and Lowry (or a family member) will be elected again.
I believe CAB is now involved,they have “teeth” unlike the tribunel.
You and people like you are the core root of the problem, not politicians. It’s that attitude from the electorate that breeds the corruption we see today.
Well said Jason.
You need to justify you’re statement, as I believe you failed to do this. What exactly is your point.
Gaz, I genuinely thought it was so self explanatory that anyone could understand it. But if you really want me to spell it out I will.
If we look to the Netherlands, a sitting member of parliament caused national outrage when he was found out to have over-claimed on his allowed expenses. How much did it take to have the Dutch up in arms? One thousand euro. The electorate don’t tolerate corruption to any extent over here and, as a result, Dutch politics is quite clean of corruption. Ireland on the other hand has a low corruption level because it has been legalised and the Irish electorate (using your very logic) accept it. So who is worse? The person who takes the system for everything he or she is “entitled” to or people like you who allow them to take everything they can because “they’re all doing it”? In my opinion the people who facilitate it using your logic are worse than those who do it.
I sincerely hope that anyone who is found to be corrupt is treated accordingly. I just have little faith that this happens in Ireland.
Fianna Fail found no fault with trhis just man–t-hey did secret deals with him over a number of years to keep themselves in power while they destroyed the country–remember their slogan–a lot done more to do–and they certainly did for us rightly.Michael Martin and Willy ODea were members of those FF Governments.Lowry has been censured by the Dail ,he is under investigation by the Standards in Public Office Commission and apparently is now under investigation by the Gardai.The Moriarty Tribunal did not believe his evidence given under oath. Where do we go from here/
Where do we go from here you say? Nowhere, that’s where. This is IReland INc. He is part of the establishment and him and his ilk are untouchable. All these conversations are complete wastes of time.
People have killed themselves as a result of people like these people in power. They are always believed and the vulnerable suffer and the families suffer as a result of these type of people’s lies and corruption. Politicians are puppets for rich people and a lot of Irish politicians have prostituted themselves to rich people for power and control. Lowery is a typical example of how Irish politics works. Look at Haughey and a few more and the rich people behind them that benefitted. The people who suffered are no longer with us.
When will he be arrested and charged already? Once he is convicted he won’t be eligible to sit in the Dáil any longer and the people of Tipperary North will not longer be able to hold the rest of us hostage by voting this corrupt disgrace in. As a Fine Gael member I am glad we expelled him from the party, sadly, Tipperary North keeps voting him in.
No doubt he’ll get the usual slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket. No wonder there are so many Irish jokes (and t-shirts).
Don’t expect much will happen. The prosecution service will worry about all sorts of issues related to this, such as how to prove the tape is not fabricated in some ways, eg is it the full conversation?
The real issue with this is not so much the wrong that he has done and whether he gets away with it as others have done in the past but why do ordinary people go out in their droves and vote for him. That doesn’t just apply to Lowry, think of Bertie Ahern, Liam Lawlor, Ray Burke, CJ Haughey, Michael Keating, John Ellis, Dessie Ellis, Ferris etc. The list is endless. These are all people across different parties who have been known or at least at the time of their election been strongly suspected to have engaged in illegal/corrupt practices but still managed to get elected to the Dail. I know that in the case of the two SF members that they served prison sentences and so might be said to have paid their debt to society but I include them to show that spending years trying to overthrow/destabilise the state is no barrier to election.
I have no doubt that if Luke Flanagan, Mick Wallace and Michael Lowry stood before the people today, knowing what we know they would still attract numerous votes. That is not to say that these people or indeed anyone mentioned above should not be entitled to run or even elected, But surely this must tell us something about ourselves. The people that we elect to represent us reflect on who we are and what our values are. In the period following the revelation of the scandals of the Catholic Church the number of mass goers declined dramaticly but yet the number of first perference votes that some of these characters got after their failings were revealed remained stable.
Why do we vote with our feet in regard to one type of scandal but in others we shrug our shoulders and accept that we cannot change anything. Looking back at that list of names it seems that “cute hoorism” is high on amongst the attributes that we believe a politician needs. There are good honest, sincere people in every political party in this country but just like the electorate they need to stand up to what is right and wrong both within and without of their parties. Too many times people seem to follow political parties like they would a football team. The belief that all FG or any other party is all good and SF or whoever are all bad or vice versa prevails. This is reflected in so many comments that one sees on social media.
Our independence was won without any definite political aims other than a form of nationalism and a desire for freedom. The simple, honest and laudable values of the 1916 proclaimation were forgotten in the drive for self determination. That created a vacuum in Irish politics that has persisted to to the present day. It is high time that we instigated a debate about what moral values we want our society to reflect and what type of society that we want to have. The current economic position has stifled that debate as we all try to protect our living standards but maybe as we rebuild our economy this the best time to do that. Maybe a proper full rewriting of our constitution by all parties is what is needed to create a better society for our children?
No! …and please don’t be insulted the constitution is fine as it is …it just requires an article that hands the people a mechanism to remove a corrupt politiician/government from office…………Every single problem with Ireland can be fixed with our constitution having this addition! ……….. and the right judges, politicians and civil servants ! ……..
Lowry should be slammed up after an almighty bill. RTÉ – is there something wrong with this news-worthy item? RTÉ, is there something wrong with the management???
Enda’s humming the tune … Don’t rock the boat, don’t rock the boat baby…
To think that the in UK watching a soft porn movie in a hotel is a resigning matter for elected officials !!
This story by Elaine Byrne and Gene Kerrigan – and every credit is due to them – first appeared in the Sunday Independent on 24 February last. And the Gardai are only investigating it now. What is the law here? Can the Gardai begin an investigation if they feel a crime may have been committed?
The Director of Public Prosecutions has had the tape since then ! ……………The D.P.P. is now going to come under the spotlight ! …and rightly so ! ….one of the most powerful anti-corruption devices in the State …………..
Well done Sunday Independent and here and Vincent Browne …… This is, I feel, is the Annie Murphy moment for the corruption in this State ……expect alot of your heroes to fall folks !
Capital “H” for here ..in the interests of fairness !…apologies Mr. Journal !
We vote for these because we would do the same things. Look at Haughey, Lowery etc. people in power do what they like – they have affairs and cheat on everybody even their kids, they break all the rules like the above mentioned – no planning permission needed for their homes or extensions. They just do it and pay somebody later apply for it retrospectively. I bet he arranges to get arrested and then gets off on a technicality as arranged by his advisors – then he will sue for wrongfully arrest. A users will always plan to avoid the consequences especially politicians. They deliberately don’t fund the fraud squad or the police as they know the longer the delay the better for themselves. If ordinary people had free reign to do what they like they would. 90% of them would linen their pockets. It’s up to the people to protest about the corruption.
Would they ever shut up or put up about Michael Lowry , I am pi–ed off about this whole saga .
They have put up.
I was shocked to hear Michael Lowry is involved in a non declaration… I always thought he was such a stand up guy……..not!!!!!!! North tipp backward voting the likes of him in …cop on
Nothing will happen. Lowry just keeps the head down, declines to confirm or to deny, CAB and the DPP scratch their respective heads, Denis O’Brien strengthens his grip on the media and then, ” okay folks, move on out of here, nothing to see. ”
We obsess about Ming’s conduct but we avoid the elephant of corruption.
Wow! Good job we have Sinn Fein looking out for financial fishy-ness for us. ://sluggerotoole.com/2013/03/12/dublin-high-court-grants-cab-e600000-judgement-against-convicted-provisional-ira-man/
I’m sorry to say but I do not trust the Gardai or the DPP to invesigate! Please can we bring in independent international investigators from Iceland maybe they seemed to of had a proper investigation!
Wow! Good job we have Sinn Fein looking out for financial fishy-ness for us. http://sluggerotoole.com/2013/03/12/dublin-high-court-grants-cab-e600000-judgement-against-convicted-provisional-ira-man/
Oh yeah, that makes a lot sense. Lowry must be innocent after all.
Sinn Fein are awfully quiet these days. The Ming story couldn’t have come at a better time. I wonder who Connor Salt works for?
Maybe Sinn Fein are concerned with police in Italy catching up on a massive money laundering operation.
Nicola Gratteri, an anti-mafia prosecutor, has accused a former IRA commander of being “delegated by the IRA to recycle the proceeds of terrorist activities and to reinvest the financial resources of the movement”.
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