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'Group of Death': Minister for Drugs Aodhán Ó Ríordáin has lost his Dáil seat

As rules stand now, it looks like Labour will lose its speaking rights in the chamber.

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MINISTER FOR DRUGS Aodhán Ó Riordáin has lost his seat in Dublin Bay North.

The Labour TD has just been eliminated after the 15th count in the constituency labelled the ‘group of death’ – there were just five seats up grabs and a field of 20 candidates.

Independents Tommy Broughan and Finian McGrath and Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell have all taken seats.

Averil Power and John Lyons were eliminated late last night and their votes distributed in the first count of the day.

Ó Riordáin said that Power’s transfers were not as friendly as he team would have hoped for. Richard Bruton, and Seán Haughey – son of Charlie – were elected during earlier counts.

The result will come as a major blow for both Ó Riordáin, who is viewed as a potential future party leader, and Labour, who now need Willie Penrose to take a seat in Longford-Westmeath in order to reach seven seats.

Seven seats automatically entitles the party to speaking rights in the Dáil.

In the end, after a marathon count, Ó Riordáin was over 800 votes short of independent Finian McGrath, who took the fifth seat.

He took just 400 over AAA-PBP candidate John Lyons’ 8,400 transfers.

Speaking afterwards, Ó Riordáin told RTÉ’s News at One that he “believed in the power of politics” and “believed in the Labour Party”.

He said that the party had “been on the back foot from day one”

“The point of politics is to serve. You should realise every day that you’re there to serve,” he advised new TDs.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:58 PM

    pity Alan kelly got through

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    Mar 1st 2016, 5:39 PM

    Boycott North Tipperary. They elected the worst excuse for a human being that ran for election and the poster boy of gombeenism and corruption. Boycott North Tipperary. Don’t ever stop there. Don’t ever spend a cent there. Treat it like it doesn’t exist.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 11:33 PM

    Len don’t forget Lowery. Tip is good place to work in if you have a large paper bag.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    I’d imagine Alan Kelly is again shoulder high on hearing this news !!!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:32 PM

    I remember the snide bile and venom Labour had for Roisin Shortall when she left after they hung her out to dry when she stood up to James Reilly in 2012.. Shortall remained dignified through all of Labour’s bitching and pettiness. Not one of the idiots stood up for her. Burton, strangely enough, was the most petty in her criticism of her at the time.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:02 PM

    i found it hard to read Aodhan. In many ways he came across as a nice enough guy but I was never sure if he was just being smug.

    The problem with Labour is that they were incredibly incredibly smug. They read the country completely wrong, despite being told this directly over the last number of years. Yet they still went ahead against the wishes of their voter base.

    With Alan Kelly at the helm, and lets face it he will be their leader in the next few months, they are going to plummet even further. I never like judging someone as a person until I meet them. All my comments on politicians are comments about their ability to do their job and not comments about them personally. But I will break my own rule for Alan Kelly. In my opinion he comes across as an incredibly arrogant person and people in this country despise arrogance. I’d love to be proved wrong as I can’t imagine someone can be that naive.

    No doubt the majority of the Labour TDs in the last government still believe what they did was right, despite the country telling them strongly that what they did was completely wrong. And this is the crux of the problem….out of touch politicians.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:08 PM

    Give me Aodhain over Burton and Kelly any day of the week.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:08 PM

    Defo better than Alan Kelly in every way.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:09 PM

    Well put Miguel, drums were beating loud and clear and still they couldn’t hear.
    They’ve sacrificed the party’s core principles for their pieces of silver.
    Their banished now to history

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:15 PM

    ‘No doubt the majority of the Labour TDs in the last government still believe what they did was right’

    That’s the problem with progressive leftists. They’re so convinced by their own sense of rightousness, that even if the vast majority disgree with them, it won’t change their opinions and views. It will just make them redouble their efforts to ‘re-educate’ the masses until they think ‘correctlly’.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:14 PM

    Labour stopped being Left about 20 years ago, Ellis. The have become centre-right if anything.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:15 PM

    You could say they put the right in self-righteous.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:22 PM

    That’s why I said ‘progressive left’. The Labour party has being hijacked by the same group of out of touch metro-elitists that hijacked the British Labour Party. The Islington brigade.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:33 PM

    Aodhán Ó Riordáin was doing the rounds on Dobby FM and RTE trying convince us that there was popular support for opening the gates to thousands ”migrants”. He is a blatant liar just like the other two. Good riddance.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 4:08 PM

    Miguel O’ Reilly, Alan Kelly’s only interest is working for his brother, Declan, and Declan’s Teneo Corporation. Kelly has no interest in people or the government.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 6:40 PM

    Yahoo! Now we won’t have to listen to moaning Joan, as they don’t have speaking rights. Every cloud has a silver lining.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 10:53 PM

    Bad day for the travellers of Ireland

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    Turn around Aodhan…. See that korrupt beet-faced skum bag kelly? Give him a clout, his treasonous actions cost you your seat.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:32 PM

    Aodhan wasn’t the worst, liked some of what he said about drugs, delighted for Mitchell though.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:42 PM

    He represented all that is wrong with the modern day Labour party. Smug, metro- centred, and totally out of touch with Labour’s working class base. More concerned with implementing hate speech legislation, gender quotas, cares more about refugees/ foreign migrants, than indigenous homeless and expanding multiculturalism into areas he considers to be monocultural.
    Labour have being driven to the edge of extinction by the likes of him and the unelectable Bacik.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:47 PM

    So Kelly’s actions cost another TD his seat, but didn’t cost him his own?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:05 PM

    True ! His drugs policy did make an impact .. And a great supporter of the Women’s Council of Ireland with young women.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:56 PM

    “can i just saaaay”…. NO you cant anymore Joan.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:09 PM

    Are you hijacking my avatar and username here again? Please use another to avoid confusion on this site. Many thanks.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:13 PM

    I dont think iv to worry too much about someone else stealing my username ,just a hunch !

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:17 PM

    @Fred – Good one! Ha ha.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:24 PM

    Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

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    He never changed his username after he said he would but he has hijacked your avatar !

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    @Suzie – Yes he did previously promise to change his username. You’ve a good memory Suzie.

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    Sounds to me like you were speaking to another dude, dude. Maybe you could call yourself ‘his dudeness’ or ‘el duderino’? Hope this helps, hang in there dude.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 7:25 PM

    T

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    I’ve a very good memory .. You should report it.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    Wait a minute, Another Haughey had been elected?? Oh christ

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:58 PM

    Yes he likes his stake medium rare, and a glass of the finest gran cruel….

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:20 PM

    I know Darren. I am in despair. Will some people never learn?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:35 PM

    Yeah and all the culchie bashing going on over Kelly and Lowery. The Dubs give us another Haughey!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    So we wont have to hear from Joan and Alan? This is an excellent result.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:24 PM

    Not yet Penrose is still alive in Longford

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:25 PM

    Depends on Penrose

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:52 PM

    although his drugs policy wasnt bad his PC bulls1It was lunacy . much better candidates out there

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:58 PM

    Overall I thought he was OK but he was bit worrying when it came to censorship.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:02 PM

    He wanted to bring in ‘hate speech’ laws, because he got called mean names (Gaydhon) when he was in school. The people have spoken on his brand of P.C. madness. Great news. The only problem is he’ll go back to polluting young people’s minds as a school priniciple.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:03 PM

    Really great news that he is now gone. An extremely dangerous character and a real threat to liberty and freedom of speech.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:04 PM

    This will now put Labour in to the ‘intensive’ care ward

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:05 PM

    Speaking rights will be changed before any new government sits

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:18 PM

    Ha his drugs policies were a joke much like him,thank god people saw through his crap.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:20 PM

    I agree, Dude. He was s erious threat to free speech. As was his Lb colleague Lorraine Higgins. She didn’t get elected either but came very close. She would have taken up the mantle had she been elected.

    Bye bye to both of them.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:23 PM

    Yup, I won’t miss him.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:31 PM

    @The Dude: agree completely with you, the most dangerous character in Irish politics. A P C, illiberal fanatic who wants to curtail any opinion that does not agree with his. Good riddance to him hopefully for good.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:45 PM

    I hope his proactive harm reduction approach on drugs will not be cast aside also.
    I admire him for the courage he showed in that regard. Although the censorship proposals were worrying.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:55 PM

    I agree with you I liked his attitude to Portugal’s drug policy. I’d stop short of giving him credit for it.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    Great news. Only wish that Kelly fecked off with him. Lesson learned Labour. You were elected by and for the people not yourselves.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    Does this mean we won’t have to listen to Joan anymore??

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:57 PM

    With any luck

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:08 PM

    I’d say she’ll retire.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:19 PM

    If they didn’t have either a Safety Net, or Back Up Option, which I guarantee you that they do. Right now the only way we won’t have to hear from her, THAT MUCH would be if she was replaced as Party Leader, for another Deputy, and not given a Deputy Leadership role.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    I wonder who the next Minister for Taking Offence will be?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    They should have been listening to the people.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:51 PM

    Sweet.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    Happy days!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:56 PM

    Well Aodhan there you go. Please use the nearest exit. Feel free to let the door hit you hard in the arse on the way throught it.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:58 PM

    Delighted! His populist BS was found out. Always trying to up his profile by commenting on how disgraceful everything was. Crawl off now under your rock.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:01 PM

    The shame of it all is that UNTIL we have a new Government in place we still have to listen to Moany Joany as Tanaiste/Minister for Social Protection and AK-47 as Minister for the Environment… And another scary thought.. They may still exist in the next Government somehow depending on how the Government is formed… Uggghhhh

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:06 PM

    I thought he was one of the better ones

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:08 PM

    What an absolute mess labour have made for themselves. Why ? There not stupid people, they had to have seen this coming.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:20 PM

    @Jason – This is a classic communist agitation technique.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:23 PM

    If we see the end of Bacik too, this would be great.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:25 PM

    Excellent result for the country, Labour deserve to be wiped out for the misery they inflicted on the poorest sections of society.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:40 PM

    Anyone would have to empathise with someone losing a seat. On a human level it has to be devastating considering the huge work put in. However, it has to be said that O Riordáin was at the forefront of championing a particular Labour vision which appears to have been utterly rejected by the people. Hope what’s left of Labour hear what the people have told them.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:41 PM

    5 years ago people were saying that about Fianna Fáil, now they are welcomed back with open arms. Swings in roundabouts!!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:51 PM

    They made their bed now they can LIE in it.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 6:12 PM

    Have any of these liebour tds got the guts to come out and tell the truth why they went against their core principles. Was it just the threat of the whip system or did they just not want to upset Joan. Go on please one of you tell the truth for a change.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 7:55 PM

    The truth is Quinn, Gilmore, Rabitte saw that huge pension pot.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:52 PM

    YES, YES, YES..this must mean no voting rights for labour!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    Talking rights….got excited!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    Speaking rights

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    *speaking rights

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:56 PM

    Newsflash: fewer voices in the Dail not great for democracy

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:58 PM

    You mean we won’t have to listen to joan anymore ☺

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:59 PM

    Newsflash: when those voices are all speaking lies, it’s no great loss for democracy.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:01 PM

    Touche Tony

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:04 PM

    Unless the speaking rights are lowered to 6 tds due to the smaller dail?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:05 PM

    …but great for free speech as he is one of its greatest enemies in this country. A communist by any other name!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:07 PM

    Well jim, it doesn’t make much of a difference anyway because every TD will follow their party line or get turfed out.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:19 PM

    Actually, I know I’m showing a degree of ignorance and lack of understanding but what exactly are these speaking rights for a party? I’m aware a party requires 7 seats to get these rights. But if a party doesn’t reach this quota does this mean that their voice and views cannot be heard in the dáil. Do independents get speaking rights? As I recall a number of them being quite vocal in bringing some very important issues to light during the previous term. If a party has no speaking rights what is their point in being there? Just seems unfortunate that the like of the Soc Dems, AAA-PBP or the Greens won’t get opportunities. Again, excuse my ignorance.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:21 PM

    Yes they’ve been given to FF and FG.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:22 PM

    If independents or small parties want to be heard effectively in the Dáil, they would need to form a “technical group” of 7 TDs or more.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:25 PM

    The independents formed what’s known as a Technical Group within the Dáil and that’s how they were afforded Speaking Rights.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:36 PM

    According to current standing orders however, there’s only allowance for one “technical group” in any one Dáil. That’s what generated the clamour for independents to establish the IA.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:51 PM

    Thanks Brian. I didn’t know that.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:15 PM

    So with the existence of the Independent Alliance, as things stand, all independents outside this group and parties that haven’t reached the quota of seven will be rendered as having no voice within the dáil since one technical group currently exists? Thanks to everyone for clarifying my query, much appreciated.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    Karmas a bitch. They were suppose to look after the peoples interests not their own. Now it’s come back to bite them.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:57 PM

    Great news for this waste of space. Arrogant man compairing the local Carrickmines protesters to the racists extremists of 1950 Alabama after that awful halting site fire tragety. Good riddance.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    great, won’t have to listen to iMoan anymore !! WooHoo !

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    Great news bye bye labour

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    Another one bites the dust. Let it be a lesson to any other party who sells their soul and renages on a promise to their supporters just to get their greedy hands on a ministerial penson! saying that the Irish elecorate is very quick to forget so they will make gains in the GE all they have to do is dance up and down in opposition and learn to be humble again!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:29 PM

    We are quick to forget. It’s why we went back in our droves to Fianna Fail (they don’t deserve the fada). It’s why we elect cowboys like Lowry, the Healy-Raes and gangsters like the Shinners. We sent a message to the government alright, a great big confused one

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:52 PM

    Yes!!!!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    There is a God

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:05 PM

    @Colm – There certainly is!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:27 PM

    If, by God, you mean the spirit within each voter then certainly. Otherwise you may as well say there are fairies at the bottom of the garden (they had as much to do with him losing his seat).

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:05 PM

    Which god is it this time?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:59 PM

    Islamist lone wolf attack in Moscow as woman decapitates a child with the familiar “allah akbar cry”
    Meanwhile the racist council of Ireland say a muslim man was looked at sideways in Dublin.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:07 PM

    Wrong page, chief!
    This is about Aodhán Ó Ríordáin losing his constituency seat!!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:04 PM

    Great news i remember this fool on RTE week in politics just after the awful halting site tragedy in Carrickmines. He compaired the locals of Carrickmines to the extreme racists of 1950s Alabama in America because they objected to the council trying to set up another unsuitable halting site. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    What a mad title to have. May as well have Minister of Pints

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    Mar 1st 2016, 9:25 PM

    Department of Pubs or Milk?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    Guess any hope of cannabis being legalised is gone now!!!!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:01 PM

    Bit of a shame he lost his seat in that regard to be honest. For most of his Pc bullshit, least he had a progressive thinking cap on with how drugs should be handled!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:06 PM

    He was a minister for platitudes

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    See ya Aido!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:56 PM

    Penrose next and it’s been a good day

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:03 PM

    Here’s hoping….

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:22 PM

    At east Penrose didn’t pretend to be anything other than what he was. I don;t want him re-elected either, but if he was, he may be the only one with a litre of old labour blood in his body.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:29 PM

    He still voted with them Luke, not much old labour blood in that

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:12 PM

    You’s really think Joan Burton is gonna stay with labour after this, I’d say she’s already in talks to move across to fine gail

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:19 PM

    Yeah Kelly would fit in there as well. Oh wait….

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:27 PM

    Joan was talking about going back into government at the weekend. She’s still hoping that labour will be propping up an FG led government which, unfortunately, is still a possibility. If Lab get back into government, it means she won’t have to stand down as head of the party. A complete travesty if it happens

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:30 PM

    FF announced today water charges are to be stopped and it’s red-line. They won;t support any government unless water charges are done away with.

    They made other demands too. Including 2k tax credit for those with childcare costs.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:01 PM

    FF moving further to the left. That’ll take the sting out of lots of Independents mandates, and make them more likely to support FF later on down the line.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:03 PM

    Won’t support FG you mean. Most other parties are against them. Why didn’t they sign up to right to change? They jumped in at the last minute to get more votes. Lets see how this all plays out. They said they would abolish Irish Water itself but were kicking the can down the road for a few years on what would happen after that.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:59 PM

    While I don’t consider him one of the main people rersponsble for the annihaation of labour, I’m still over the moon. Could this mean labour now have ZERO speaking rights in the next Dail??

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:04 PM

    Yeah, minimum of seven TDs for speaking rights. Labour were relying on O’Riordain getting his seat. As director of elections, Alan Kelly ought to be ashamed of himself. He’s presided over a disaster for Labour. It just goes to show how absolutely appalling he is at the helm of anything.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:08 PM

    I’m sure they’ll do a deal with the Soc Dems to get them both speaking rights.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:09 PM

    IT hangs on Penrose. If he gets a seat in Longford-Westmeath, they get speaking rights

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:31 PM

    Should have been the other way around, Kelly losing his seat. Not a Labour fan at all but the wrong guy lost his seat. On the other hand, sf candidate got through so happy days.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    Nana na na, nana na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:16 PM

    Wonderful news. Burton and Kelly have been silenced. There is light at the end of tunnel!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:29 PM

    Part of Labour’s problem is standing beside Aodhan.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:06 PM

    Another seat for SF and another loss for Lab – - it doesn’t get much better!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:28 PM

    This is a bittersweet moment for me. All my life I supported Labour but had a big change of heart when Joan became leader.

    Every time she dodged answering a question by a diversionary snide at Gerry Adams did it for me. She actually convinced me that Sinn Fein were the new Labour advocates… Thanks Joan.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:59 PM

    That’s a good result. Arrogant egotist deserves the bullet. Labour are in ruins – lying bunch of sell outs. You reap what you sow. Just a shame the most ignorant & arrogant labourite survived but hopefully Tipp will come to their senses next time out. All in all a good day.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:13 PM

    Labour don’t deserve to be near the dail let alone be allowed to speak there

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:00 PM

    Fantastic

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:13 PM

    I am actually astonished at the level of vitriol and hatred being posted here.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:18 PM

    After Labours lies and sell outs is it any wonder people are angry? When you lie to the electorate you get punished.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:23 PM

    @Paige – it is well deserved Paige. He has some extremely dangerous ideas which could have resulted in many liberties being stolen from citizens.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:39 PM

    well then paige,you should have been around here when him and his party were helped take medical cards form sick and down snydrome children, you would have been mortified.
    Is a pity that 6 of the lying rabble actually managed to get in. but you stick to your faux indignation, the rest of us have rituals of little dances and air punching to go through.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:45 PM

    what kinda dangerous ideas?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 4:06 PM

    Where were you during the election campaign, Paige. International media have commented on the vitriol directed against Sinn Féin and in particular Gerry Adams from all the establishment parties and sections of the media. Unbelievable, but I think it helped Gerry.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 4:34 PM

    Paige Turners, Why?? Are you a bit like him? Have people no right to express how they feel about this arrogant, censorship friendly turncoat?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 5:22 PM

    @Gavin – For example – a curtailing of freedom of speech through the implementation of hate speech laws. These kind of laws impute protection status upon certain categories of people, and at the same time strip rights from others. Free speech is the foundation stone of a free society. If one does not have freedom to speak – then one cannot defend all one’s other rights. I am referring to natural rights, not man made ones.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:04 PM

    Another Liebour candidate bites the dust…now for Penrose to fail.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:19 PM

    Is that Maria Cahill I see in the photo. Well entrenched with Labour now.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:43 PM

    methinks she is only there to meet a certain TD who also popped into the RDS ( he can be seen arriving later), probably off for tea and scones with strawberry jam in a hotel, and a little stroll through the park afterwards…. Hope the cameras follow them everywhere.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:26 PM

    Not having to listen to Joan. Win Win

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    Mar 1st 2016, 5:23 PM

    She’s still a TD thanks to rich Castleknock liberal voters

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:56 PM

    best news for a long time

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:57 PM

    Good stuff, those suppositories he got me were useless. For all the good they did me I might as well have shoved them up my arse.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:05 PM

    Brilliant

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:26 PM

    No more “I would just like to say” from Burton. Savour the moment. No more Ged Nash – too busy counting his votes on his toes. He won’t need his toes to count Labour’s seats. Alan Kelly will need a month off to recover from that sweat he had to get elected. Gawd, you could n’t beat this with a big stick. Auld Noonan, Flanagan and Regina Doherty must have been touching cloth too as they sweated in their seats on the last counts while Shinners got elected in front of them. Meanwhile Gerry walks on water. Savour the moment. The Fine Gael trolls and the Indo are quiet these days. Aye, mo chairde, savour the moment.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:12 PM

    Averil Power gone too. Her husband, the Independent editor Fionnan Sheehan must be fuming.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:15 PM

    Labour are now in the ‘intensive’ care ward

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:13 PM

    Every cloud has a silver lining ☺

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:53 PM

    I feel he may have been re-elected easily, had he not been a member of the Labour party. A progressive thinker.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:05 PM

    Maybe he will reconsider the company that he keeps so….

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:25 PM

    @Paul – ‘Progressive’ is nothing more than a code word for a communist dressed up in deferent clothes.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:25 PM

    Different

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:38 PM

    @ The Dude.. What are you talking about ????

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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:54 PM

    If you lie with dogs, you get fleas.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:23 PM

    Joan has to go. Even if they make speaking rights with Penrose or in unison with another party that egoist iPhone Joan is demoted.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:11 PM

    And no speaking rights, what a relief to see absolutely Kelly sitting all stitched up, happy days

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    That’s awful. The guy had some great ideas and campaigned hard for marriage equality. A real loss to our parliament. We get the politicians we deserve in Ireland.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:58 PM

    So what. He sold his soul to Fianna Gael. Good riddance. Traitors.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:59 PM

    Are you mad. He was attempting to grab the gay vote like Power-Trip. Cynical. This homo certainly didn’t vote for either opportunists. The man worked as a teacher in inner city schools and still crucified the poor.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:00 PM

    He might have Paige but he is part of a political party that lied and betrayed their supporters. If he had the courage of his convictions he would’ve left the party but he didn’t. Remaining a member displayed his support and willingness to be part of a political grouping that completely turned their backs on their founding principles and those they represent. Neither he or any of his comrades are a loss to anyone

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:04 PM

    Well done guys

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:08 PM

    Can I just say. …. Yay

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:55 PM

    I bet mary-lou is salivating with giddiness…

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:26 PM

    Please god let penrose loose his seat and labour loose speaking rights in the Dail.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 9:26 PM

    Lord hear our prayer. ;-)

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:55 PM

    He was the onky member of the liebour party i liked !!! Tarred with the same brush !!! Ah well !!!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:16 PM

    Kelly’s an arrogant, feral, toxic arsehole. And he was elected without reaching the quota.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:25 PM

    Pity he didn’t think about serving when he was elected no loss

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:58 PM

    No loss. However there’s no icing on the cake with Moanie , and A******Kelly still in the Dail. Hope Penrose fails, and we’ll have some peace. Let’s hope no other group, or individual teams up with Labour, as we heard more than enough from that overblown out-of-touch arrogant shower of windbags to last a lifetime of Dails!

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:11 PM

    Well done Denise the first SF TD in north Dublin ….Larry done the work for years you deserve great credit

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:45 PM

    Savour the moment again.
    Re-savour it.
    Re-savour it again – repeatedly.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:00 PM

    @Aodhan: Political Parties are just private clubs, financial predators who max your taxes like landlords max your Rent and Banks max your Debt. Labour is no different.

    No Political Party will be given a majority to Govern as long as they -
    - pass regressive tax laws (e.g. LPT, WT, Car Tax, IT) to max the tax take ( and fail to allow for inability to pay)
    - use the whip system to disenfranchise voters whose TDs cannot represent their interests over the Party.
    - use Revenue to take the LPT from pensioners Medical Expenses refunds when they cant keep up the tax payments
    - use Attachment Orders to force pensioners to pay the Water Tax when they cant afford to pay.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:54 PM

    I’ll have to get off this thread for a while. I’ve pulled a muscle from punching the air…

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:14 PM

    Here’s hoping the same boot kicks penrose out the door as well

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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:56 PM

    It’s pretty amazing to me that Pat Rabbitte is popping up all over the place holding forth on the woes of the Labour Party. His “isn’t that what you say during an election” comment probably cost them as many votes this time around as the shapes Alan and Joan have been throwing. High time Pat was put out to pasture.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:07 PM

    The 2nd highest first preference vote and he goes out after 15 counts!That’s what happens when you’re the only Labour candidate out of 20.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:11 PM

    Actually he got the 4th highest first preference vote. My bad.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:05 PM

    If he had acted promptly in decriminalising drug users he would have been elected no bother! It’s easy to talk about what is the right thing to do- pity he couldn’t have matched all his talking with ACTION! Drugs need to be tackled in Ireland- addicts need to be helped and medicinal marijuana needs to be legalised! !

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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:54 PM

    Will he be re elected next year? Or will FG/FF do the deal?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:24 PM

    Is that Mairia there beside him, lending her special cachet to the party?

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:22 PM

    TOMMY BROUGHAN IS THE MOST DESERVING OUT OF ALL OF THEM. WELL DONE TOMMY, THE PEOPLES PERSON.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:01 PM

    And ye think Haughey and Bruton will be better?? Some good candidates have lost their seats in this constituency replaced by muppets

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    Mute gordon kennedy
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:48 PM

    Mitchell, McGrath and broughan are not muppets. Great result.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:23 PM

    I never realised we had a minister for Drugs. I mean do these people actually get a salary ?

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    Mute Oran Joyce
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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:17 PM

    Refusing to remove his ‘Yes’ badge during a televised same sex marriage debate?
    His number was up after that.
    The pot smoker’s champion has been consigned to the political ashtray.
    This year is getting better by the day.

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    Mute Kieran OKeeffe
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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:57 PM

    One of the few labour party td,s who knew his brief..maybe he’ll join the SDs..

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:19 PM

    Roisin Shortall won’t want him. O’Riordain was very quiet indeed when James Reilly was busy bullying Shortall (and Labour effectively constructively dismissed her by their silence). Now he’s out, Reilly’s out and Shortall is most certainly in.

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    Mute Robert Cousins
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:43 PM

    So people on the left and on the right are delighted he’s gone? On the right because he is the epitome of the illiberal liberal and on the left because he’s labour and therefore “sold out the people”?

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    Mute Rosa Parks
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    Mar 1st 2016, 5:22 PM

    Yes without the inverted commas.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:52 PM

    Can I JUST SAYYYYY … YAY !

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    Mute @mdmak33
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:57 PM

    This is Kelly and Burton’s fault, they cost a lot of good people their seats.disgraceful.

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:30 PM

    Don’t forget Howlin and his tetchy Napoleonic strut, clicking his fingers at Gardaí, as if they were at his beck and call. He’s one of the very worst of them but he managed to keep his scaldy head down and get reelected. Then there was Rabbitte, Gilmore, Quinn and White, in descending order on a scale of arrogance and entitlement.

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    Mute Derek Walsh
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:10 PM

    A shame. Aodhan is one of the good guys, even if hampered by the rigidity of party politics. Remarkable that he’s gone in favour of a Haughey with a Hitler moustache.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:01 PM

    That’s a shame. He was a good Minister and representative.

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:11 PM

    Did you not hear the news? The people have decided that he wasn’t a good minister or representative.

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    Mute Niall Conneely
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:28 PM

    Is Sinéad O’Carroll a sister of Averil Power? She’s a ringer for her!

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    Mute Chris Enright
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    Mar 1st 2016, 12:57 PM

    All not lost yet. Willie Penrose still standing in Longford Westmeath and if he can hold his 2 vote lead ahead of Bonkers after the recount he has a real chance of the final seat.

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    Mute Mark Mulvey
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:43 PM

    Hahahahaha

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    Mute Larry Doherty
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    Mar 1st 2016, 4:53 PM

    Where is Diarmuid and all the other fine Gael trolls these days.

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    Mute liam
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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:18 PM

    Please! please! no speaking rights for Joan

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:22 PM

    Very tight in Longford-Wetmeath. Another FG seat is a certainty and the last one then between Penrose, the the other FG candidate Bannon and Hogan of SF. The transfers of either Penrose or Bannon will be the key.

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    Mute Joey Gee
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:33 PM

    Iontach,

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    Mute .
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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:21 PM

    Terrible minister totally politically correct of all the Labour ministers the most sinister Don’t worry about him he will get good job in some state funded quango travellers rights perhaps

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    Mute Rosa Parks
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    Mar 1st 2016, 5:20 PM

    No more pontificating about direct provision hurray.

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    Mute NiallD
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:07 PM

    He was actually OK. That’s my opinion. He was a school principal so I guess he could return to teaching.

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    Mute Keith Wizzy
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:20 PM

    Or a handy Senator position may arise.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:33 PM

    Delighted

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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:45 PM

    LOL’s

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:20 PM

    He had some quite progressive ideas regarding illegal drugs

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    Mar 1st 2016, 5:40 PM

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

    ― Marcus Tullius Cicero

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    Mute Tadgh Healy
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    Mar 1st 2016, 5:06 PM

    Delighted to see the back of him and all the other labour failures. Good to see Joan and Kelly elected to ensure total obliteration of Labour next time. My sympathies are with the homeless, those with disability, lone parents etc.
    Get lost so called labour.

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    Mute Stephen Kelleher
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    Mar 1st 2016, 6:34 PM

    Alan Kelly has arrived at the Longford/Westmeath count, Willie Penrose should tell him to bugger off back to Tipperary as if it wasn’t for him and Joan he wouldn’t be in the situation he’s in and the Labour Party on the verge of extinction. Jack o Connor and his well heeled Siptu buddies are strangely quiet…..

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    Mar 1st 2016, 9:33 PM

    Thrilled that Amadán has lost his seat. Self serving arrogant weasely slimeball. Up there with Haughey Bertie Shatter. Sad thing is the arse hole has probably done enough lecturing to get that immigration quango job he’s been after for a good while.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 7:58 PM

    Maria cahil must be feeling well and truly sick.

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    Mar 1st 2016, 4:02 PM

    Who will look after working people now, Fianna failers , give me a break! Sinn Fein are a talking shop, never will go into government and unworkable policies. Why people vote against their own interests and vote in the same centre right parties is beyond me. Fianna failers have us in the hole were in and have no intention of getting us out.

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    Mute Larry Doherty
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    Mar 1st 2016, 4:54 PM

    Marc

    Ged Nash will look after you. Oh sorry, he has lost his seat too.

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    Mute Rosa Parks
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    Mar 1st 2016, 5:21 PM

    Labour only looked after themselves and their family members appointed to state boards

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    Mar 1st 2016, 2:25 PM

    Labour will do a deal with the Soc Dems in next Dail so that both will have speaking rights

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    Mar 1st 2016, 3:18 PM

    After the way Labour treated Shortall? I really don’t think so.

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    Mute Thomas Skelly
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    Mar 1st 2016, 9:08 PM

    I just realising the amount of ministerial positions created by the last government. Everyone in both parties seems to be minsters. That is what Enda must have meant by cutting down on the amount of TD’s, he would make most of them ministers.

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    Mute Aaron Kavanagh
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    Mar 1st 2016, 11:19 PM

    Bummer. People’s aversions towards Labour aside, O’Riordian was one of the only politicians in the Dáil pushing for realistic and progressive drug reform.

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    Mute Tony Hartigan
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    Mar 1st 2016, 7:51 PM

    They had no interest in listening too the people

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    Mute Tony Hartigan
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    Mar 1st 2016, 7:50 PM

    Karma

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    Mute Derek Hughes
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    Mar 2nd 2016, 2:06 AM

    They still don’t get it. Serving the people means representing them and keeping promises made to the electorate. Labour broke too many promises. Slashing benefits to single mothers and forceing them to worker or be homeless was the straw. Irish Water is what brought the people together against the now lame duck government. Now neither FF or FG have a mandate to form a government together as both promised not to do so prior to the election.

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    Mute Khaos Komputing
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    Mar 2nd 2016, 12:31 AM

    Any sniff

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    Mute Rory Gibney
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    Mar 1st 2016, 1:05 PM

    Fantastic the first minister to take a positive approach to drug enforcement and to take stides forward in legalising possession is ousted, and CHARLIE HAUGHEY’S SON GETS IN!!!!
    I’m glad I’m not living in Ireland anymore!

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