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MINISTER FOR DRUGS Aodhán Ó Riordáin has lost his seat in Dublin Bay North.
The Labour TD has just been eliminated after the 15th count in the constituency labelled the ‘group of death’ – there were just five seats up grabs and a field of 20 candidates.
Independents Tommy Broughan and Finian McGrath and Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell have all taken seats.
Averil Power and John Lyons were eliminated late last night and their votes distributed in the first count of the day.
Ó Riordáin said that Power’s transfers were not as friendly as he team would have hoped for. Richard Bruton, and Seán Haughey – son of Charlie – were elected during earlier counts.
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The result will come as a major blow for both Ó Riordáin, who is viewed as a potential future party leader, and Labour, who now need Willie Penrose to take a seat in Longford-Westmeath in order to reach seven seats.
Seven seats automatically entitles the party to speaking rights in the Dáil.
In the end, after a marathon count, Ó Riordáin was over 800 votes short of independent Finian McGrath, who took the fifth seat.
He took just 400 over AAA-PBP candidate John Lyons’ 8,400 transfers.
Speaking afterwards, Ó Riordáin told RTÉ’s News at One that he “believed in the power of politics” and “believed in the Labour Party”.
He said that the party had “been on the back foot from day one”
“The point of politics is to serve. You should realise every day that you’re there to serve,” he advised new TDs.
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Boycott North Tipperary. They elected the worst excuse for a human being that ran for election and the poster boy of gombeenism and corruption. Boycott North Tipperary. Don’t ever stop there. Don’t ever spend a cent there. Treat it like it doesn’t exist.
I remember the snide bile and venom Labour had for Roisin Shortall when she left after they hung her out to dry when she stood up to James Reilly in 2012.. Shortall remained dignified through all of Labour’s bitching and pettiness. Not one of the idiots stood up for her. Burton, strangely enough, was the most petty in her criticism of her at the time.
i found it hard to read Aodhan. In many ways he came across as a nice enough guy but I was never sure if he was just being smug.
The problem with Labour is that they were incredibly incredibly smug. They read the country completely wrong, despite being told this directly over the last number of years. Yet they still went ahead against the wishes of their voter base.
With Alan Kelly at the helm, and lets face it he will be their leader in the next few months, they are going to plummet even further. I never like judging someone as a person until I meet them. All my comments on politicians are comments about their ability to do their job and not comments about them personally. But I will break my own rule for Alan Kelly. In my opinion he comes across as an incredibly arrogant person and people in this country despise arrogance. I’d love to be proved wrong as I can’t imagine someone can be that naive.
No doubt the majority of the Labour TDs in the last government still believe what they did was right, despite the country telling them strongly that what they did was completely wrong. And this is the crux of the problem….out of touch politicians.
Well put Miguel, drums were beating loud and clear and still they couldn’t hear.
They’ve sacrificed the party’s core principles for their pieces of silver.
Their banished now to history
‘No doubt the majority of the Labour TDs in the last government still believe what they did was right’
That’s the problem with progressive leftists. They’re so convinced by their own sense of rightousness, that even if the vast majority disgree with them, it won’t change their opinions and views. It will just make them redouble their efforts to ‘re-educate’ the masses until they think ‘correctlly’.
That’s why I said ‘progressive left’. The Labour party has being hijacked by the same group of out of touch metro-elitists that hijacked the British Labour Party. The Islington brigade.
Aodhán Ó Riordáin was doing the rounds on Dobby FM and RTE trying convince us that there was popular support for opening the gates to thousands ”migrants”. He is a blatant liar just like the other two. Good riddance.
Miguel O’ Reilly, Alan Kelly’s only interest is working for his brother, Declan, and Declan’s Teneo Corporation. Kelly has no interest in people or the government.
He represented all that is wrong with the modern day Labour party. Smug, metro- centred, and totally out of touch with Labour’s working class base. More concerned with implementing hate speech legislation, gender quotas, cares more about refugees/ foreign migrants, than indigenous homeless and expanding multiculturalism into areas he considers to be monocultural.
Labour have being driven to the edge of extinction by the likes of him and the unelectable Bacik.
Sounds to me like you were speaking to another dude, dude. Maybe you could call yourself ‘his dudeness’ or ‘el duderino’? Hope this helps, hang in there dude.
He wanted to bring in ‘hate speech’ laws, because he got called mean names (Gaydhon) when he was in school. The people have spoken on his brand of P.C. madness. Great news. The only problem is he’ll go back to polluting young people’s minds as a school priniciple.
I agree, Dude. He was s erious threat to free speech. As was his Lb colleague Lorraine Higgins. She didn’t get elected either but came very close. She would have taken up the mantle had she been elected.
@The Dude: agree completely with you, the most dangerous character in Irish politics. A P C, illiberal fanatic who wants to curtail any opinion that does not agree with his. Good riddance to him hopefully for good.
I hope his proactive harm reduction approach on drugs will not be cast aside also.
I admire him for the courage he showed in that regard. Although the censorship proposals were worrying.
If they didn’t have either a Safety Net, or Back Up Option, which I guarantee you that they do. Right now the only way we won’t have to hear from her, THAT MUCH would be if she was replaced as Party Leader, for another Deputy, and not given a Deputy Leadership role.
Delighted! His populist BS was found out. Always trying to up his profile by commenting on how disgraceful everything was. Crawl off now under your rock.
The shame of it all is that UNTIL we have a new Government in place we still have to listen to Moany Joany as Tanaiste/Minister for Social Protection and AK-47 as Minister for the Environment… And another scary thought.. They may still exist in the next Government somehow depending on how the Government is formed… Uggghhhh
Anyone would have to empathise with someone losing a seat. On a human level it has to be devastating considering the huge work put in. However, it has to be said that O Riordáin was at the forefront of championing a particular Labour vision which appears to have been utterly rejected by the people. Hope what’s left of Labour hear what the people have told them.
Have any of these liebour tds got the guts to come out and tell the truth why they went against their core principles. Was it just the threat of the whip system or did they just not want to upset Joan. Go on please one of you tell the truth for a change.
Actually, I know I’m showing a degree of ignorance and lack of understanding but what exactly are these speaking rights for a party? I’m aware a party requires 7 seats to get these rights. But if a party doesn’t reach this quota does this mean that their voice and views cannot be heard in the dáil. Do independents get speaking rights? As I recall a number of them being quite vocal in bringing some very important issues to light during the previous term. If a party has no speaking rights what is their point in being there? Just seems unfortunate that the like of the Soc Dems, AAA-PBP or the Greens won’t get opportunities. Again, excuse my ignorance.
According to current standing orders however, there’s only allowance for one “technical group” in any one Dáil. That’s what generated the clamour for independents to establish the IA.
So with the existence of the Independent Alliance, as things stand, all independents outside this group and parties that haven’t reached the quota of seven will be rendered as having no voice within the dáil since one technical group currently exists? Thanks to everyone for clarifying my query, much appreciated.
Great news for this waste of space. Arrogant man compairing the local Carrickmines protesters to the racists extremists of 1950 Alabama after that awful halting site fire tragety. Good riddance.
Another one bites the dust. Let it be a lesson to any other party who sells their soul and renages on a promise to their supporters just to get their greedy hands on a ministerial penson! saying that the Irish elecorate is very quick to forget so they will make gains in the GE all they have to do is dance up and down in opposition and learn to be humble again!
We are quick to forget. It’s why we went back in our droves to Fianna Fail (they don’t deserve the fada). It’s why we elect cowboys like Lowry, the Healy-Raes and gangsters like the Shinners. We sent a message to the government alright, a great big confused one
If, by God, you mean the spirit within each voter then certainly. Otherwise you may as well say there are fairies at the bottom of the garden (they had as much to do with him losing his seat).
Islamist lone wolf attack in Moscow as woman decapitates a child with the familiar “allah akbar cry”
Meanwhile the racist council of Ireland say a muslim man was looked at sideways in Dublin.
Great news i remember this fool on RTE week in politics just after the awful halting site tragedy in Carrickmines. He compaired the locals of Carrickmines to the extreme racists of 1950s Alabama in America because they objected to the council trying to set up another unsuitable halting site. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Bit of a shame he lost his seat in that regard to be honest. For most of his Pc bullshit, least he had a progressive thinking cap on with how drugs should be handled!
At east Penrose didn’t pretend to be anything other than what he was. I don;t want him re-elected either, but if he was, he may be the only one with a litre of old labour blood in his body.
Joan was talking about going back into government at the weekend. She’s still hoping that labour will be propping up an FG led government which, unfortunately, is still a possibility. If Lab get back into government, it means she won’t have to stand down as head of the party. A complete travesty if it happens
FF moving further to the left. That’ll take the sting out of lots of Independents mandates, and make them more likely to support FF later on down the line.
Won’t support FG you mean. Most other parties are against them. Why didn’t they sign up to right to change? They jumped in at the last minute to get more votes. Lets see how this all plays out. They said they would abolish Irish Water itself but were kicking the can down the road for a few years on what would happen after that.
While I don’t consider him one of the main people rersponsble for the annihaation of labour, I’m still over the moon. Could this mean labour now have ZERO speaking rights in the next Dail??
Yeah, minimum of seven TDs for speaking rights. Labour were relying on O’Riordain getting his seat. As director of elections, Alan Kelly ought to be ashamed of himself. He’s presided over a disaster for Labour. It just goes to show how absolutely appalling he is at the helm of anything.
Should have been the other way around, Kelly losing his seat. Not a Labour fan at all but the wrong guy lost his seat. On the other hand, sf candidate got through so happy days.
This is a bittersweet moment for me. All my life I supported Labour but had a big change of heart when Joan became leader.
Every time she dodged answering a question by a diversionary snide at Gerry Adams did it for me. She actually convinced me that Sinn Fein were the new Labour advocates… Thanks Joan.
That’s a good result. Arrogant egotist deserves the bullet. Labour are in ruins – lying bunch of sell outs. You reap what you sow. Just a shame the most ignorant & arrogant labourite survived but hopefully Tipp will come to their senses next time out. All in all a good day.
well then paige,you should have been around here when him and his party were helped take medical cards form sick and down snydrome children, you would have been mortified.
Is a pity that 6 of the lying rabble actually managed to get in. but you stick to your faux indignation, the rest of us have rituals of little dances and air punching to go through.
Where were you during the election campaign, Paige. International media have commented on the vitriol directed against Sinn Féin and in particular Gerry Adams from all the establishment parties and sections of the media. Unbelievable, but I think it helped Gerry.
@Gavin – For example – a curtailing of freedom of speech through the implementation of hate speech laws. These kind of laws impute protection status upon certain categories of people, and at the same time strip rights from others. Free speech is the foundation stone of a free society. If one does not have freedom to speak – then one cannot defend all one’s other rights. I am referring to natural rights, not man made ones.
methinks she is only there to meet a certain TD who also popped into the RDS ( he can be seen arriving later), probably off for tea and scones with strawberry jam in a hotel, and a little stroll through the park afterwards…. Hope the cameras follow them everywhere.
No more “I would just like to say” from Burton. Savour the moment. No more Ged Nash – too busy counting his votes on his toes. He won’t need his toes to count Labour’s seats. Alan Kelly will need a month off to recover from that sweat he had to get elected. Gawd, you could n’t beat this with a big stick. Auld Noonan, Flanagan and Regina Doherty must have been touching cloth too as they sweated in their seats on the last counts while Shinners got elected in front of them. Meanwhile Gerry walks on water. Savour the moment. The Fine Gael trolls and the Indo are quiet these days. Aye, mo chairde, savour the moment.
That’s awful. The guy had some great ideas and campaigned hard for marriage equality. A real loss to our parliament. We get the politicians we deserve in Ireland.
Are you mad. He was attempting to grab the gay vote like Power-Trip. Cynical. This homo certainly didn’t vote for either opportunists. The man worked as a teacher in inner city schools and still crucified the poor.
He might have Paige but he is part of a political party that lied and betrayed their supporters. If he had the courage of his convictions he would’ve left the party but he didn’t. Remaining a member displayed his support and willingness to be part of a political grouping that completely turned their backs on their founding principles and those they represent. Neither he or any of his comrades are a loss to anyone
No loss. However there’s no icing on the cake with Moanie , and A******Kelly still in the Dail. Hope Penrose fails, and we’ll have some peace. Let’s hope no other group, or individual teams up with Labour, as we heard more than enough from that overblown out-of-touch arrogant shower of windbags to last a lifetime of Dails!
@Aodhan: Political Parties are just private clubs, financial predators who max your taxes like landlords max your Rent and Banks max your Debt. Labour is no different.
No Political Party will be given a majority to Govern as long as they -
- pass regressive tax laws (e.g. LPT, WT, Car Tax, IT) to max the tax take ( and fail to allow for inability to pay)
- use the whip system to disenfranchise voters whose TDs cannot represent their interests over the Party.
- use Revenue to take the LPT from pensioners Medical Expenses refunds when they cant keep up the tax payments
- use Attachment Orders to force pensioners to pay the Water Tax when they cant afford to pay.
It’s pretty amazing to me that Pat Rabbitte is popping up all over the place holding forth on the woes of the Labour Party. His “isn’t that what you say during an election” comment probably cost them as many votes this time around as the shapes Alan and Joan have been throwing. High time Pat was put out to pasture.
If he had acted promptly in decriminalising drug users he would have been elected no bother! It’s easy to talk about what is the right thing to do- pity he couldn’t have matched all his talking with ACTION! Drugs need to be tackled in Ireland- addicts need to be helped and medicinal marijuana needs to be legalised! !
Refusing to remove his ‘Yes’ badge during a televised same sex marriage debate?
His number was up after that.
The pot smoker’s champion has been consigned to the political ashtray.
This year is getting better by the day.
Roisin Shortall won’t want him. O’Riordain was very quiet indeed when James Reilly was busy bullying Shortall (and Labour effectively constructively dismissed her by their silence). Now he’s out, Reilly’s out and Shortall is most certainly in.
So people on the left and on the right are delighted he’s gone? On the right because he is the epitome of the illiberal liberal and on the left because he’s labour and therefore “sold out the people”?
Don’t forget Howlin and his tetchy Napoleonic strut, clicking his fingers at Gardaí, as if they were at his beck and call. He’s one of the very worst of them but he managed to keep his scaldy head down and get reelected. Then there was Rabbitte, Gilmore, Quinn and White, in descending order on a scale of arrogance and entitlement.
A shame. Aodhan is one of the good guys, even if hampered by the rigidity of party politics. Remarkable that he’s gone in favour of a Haughey with a Hitler moustache.
All not lost yet. Willie Penrose still standing in Longford Westmeath and if he can hold his 2 vote lead ahead of Bonkers after the recount he has a real chance of the final seat.
Very tight in Longford-Wetmeath. Another FG seat is a certainty and the last one then between Penrose, the the other FG candidate Bannon and Hogan of SF. The transfers of either Penrose or Bannon will be the key.
Terrible minister totally politically correct of all the Labour ministers the most sinister Don’t worry about him he will get good job in some state funded quango travellers rights perhaps
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
Delighted to see the back of him and all the other labour failures. Good to see Joan and Kelly elected to ensure total obliteration of Labour next time. My sympathies are with the homeless, those with disability, lone parents etc.
Get lost so called labour.
Alan Kelly has arrived at the Longford/Westmeath count, Willie Penrose should tell him to bugger off back to Tipperary as if it wasn’t for him and Joan he wouldn’t be in the situation he’s in and the Labour Party on the verge of extinction. Jack o Connor and his well heeled Siptu buddies are strangely quiet…..
Thrilled that Amadán has lost his seat. Self serving arrogant weasely slimeball. Up there with Haughey Bertie Shatter. Sad thing is the arse hole has probably done enough lecturing to get that immigration quango job he’s been after for a good while.
Who will look after working people now, Fianna failers , give me a break! Sinn Fein are a talking shop, never will go into government and unworkable policies. Why people vote against their own interests and vote in the same centre right parties is beyond me. Fianna failers have us in the hole were in and have no intention of getting us out.
I just realising the amount of ministerial positions created by the last government. Everyone in both parties seems to be minsters. That is what Enda must have meant by cutting down on the amount of TD’s, he would make most of them ministers.
Bummer. People’s aversions towards Labour aside, O’Riordian was one of the only politicians in the Dáil pushing for realistic and progressive drug reform.
They still don’t get it. Serving the people means representing them and keeping promises made to the electorate. Labour broke too many promises. Slashing benefits to single mothers and forceing them to worker or be homeless was the straw. Irish Water is what brought the people together against the now lame duck government. Now neither FF or FG have a mandate to form a government together as both promised not to do so prior to the election.
Fantastic the first minister to take a positive approach to drug enforcement and to take stides forward in legalising possession is ousted, and CHARLIE HAUGHEY’S SON GETS IN!!!!
I’m glad I’m not living in Ireland anymore!
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