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Bill seeking to remove 'child pornography' term from Irish legislation to be debated in Seanad

Senator Eileen Flynn’s private members’ bill would replace the term with “child sexual exploitation material”.

A NEW BILL is seeking to remove the term “child pornography” from Irish legislation and replace it with “child sexual exploitation material”. 

Independent Senator Eileen Flynn will address the Seanad today as her private members’ bill, The Child Trafficking and Child Sexual Exploitation Material (Amendment) Bill 2022, is debated.

If passed, the Bill would amend the language of the Child Trafficking and Pornography Act 1998, the Amendment Act of 2004, and any references to “child pornography” contained within Irish legislation.

Flynn said the phrase child pornography “does not truly reflect the nature of the abuse and it is unacceptable to continue to use such inappropriate language when referencing such an awful crime.”

“We can all think of words that have been used commonly in the recent past that would now be recognised as offensive and divisive. I would like to think that should these words, that are harmful to people, be within our laws, that we would not hesitate to amend and replace them. This is the case here,” she said.

She said the language currently being used in Irish legislation has been found to be harmful.

Flynn said the Bill has been guided by the Luxembourg Guidelines, which were drawn up in 2016 by ECPAT International, a global network of organisations that works to end the sexual exploitation of children.

“According to their report, which was conducted with the aid of a number of international bodies, including the UN, the term ‘child pornography’ is not only incorrect, it is dangerous,” she said.

“Why then is it dangerous, when our laws already provide measures against it? The reason is that what is occurring in these awful instances, is not pornography. It is abuse.”

Flynn referred to legislators using more appropriate terminology for abusive behaviour, such as “image based sexual assault” instead of “revenge porn”. 

“While that term is widely used and understood, the term ‘image based sexual assault’ not only better reflects the nature of the abuse and the crime, but it also shifts the focus on to the perpetrator and not the victim. I wish to do the same with this bill,” she said.

The term has long been considered problematic. In 2014, members of the Oireachtas called on then-Justice Minister Frances Fitzgerald to change the term to acknowledge the seriousness of images and videos featuring child sexual abuse.

Director of the National Women’s Council Orla O’Connor told The Journal: “The National Women’s Council welcomes this important legislation to remove the outdated and harmful term from legislation.”

“Language matters, and material relating to child sexual exploitation should clearly be referred to as such,” she said.

Reporting requirements

While the term “child sexual abuse material” is increasingly used by the media, the Irish media are required by law when reporting legal proceedings to use the specific charge, which is “child pornography”.

Less specific descriptions of the offence could result in a breach of the Criminal Procedure Act 1967 or result in defamation proceedings, legal experts have said – noting that in circumstances where an image of a child is used but the child is not abused, suggesting the charge is “child abuse” could also breach the Act and may also be defamatory.

The International Police Organisation Interpol, who worked on developing the Luxembourg Guidelines, has been vocal about the need to stop using the term.

“Child sexual exploitation is not a crime we take lightly. In fact, we want you to cringe when you hear the terms ‘child porn’ or ‘kiddy porn’,” the organisation has said.

“Why? Because children whose sexual abuse has been photographed or filmed deserve to be protected and respected. The seriousness of their abuse should not be reduced by words such as ‘porn’.”

Pornography is a term used for adults engaging in consensual sexual acts distributed (mostly) legally to the general public for their sexual pleasure. When children are involved, it’s not porn. It’s abuse. It’s a crime.

Flynn said the use of the term child pornography is incorrect and dangerous.

“We need a phrase that better reflects the nature of the abuse and the crime. We need to shift the focus onto the perpetrator and not the victim. By changing the language of our laws, we can guide the narrative on these issues,” she said.

“Our laws should be written to protect those that they serve by implementing appropriate language that conveys the truth of the action and the crime. We know it’s the right thing to do.

“We must shine a light onto the atrocious actions that are being suffered by countless children. We must listen to them regarding their experiences and do all that we can to support these victims. We must start by labelling what they went through correctly, which is child exploitation.”

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    Mute Soundy Sound
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:08 PM

    Please follow suit here. There are plenty of refillable options.

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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:20 PM

    @Jimmy Wallace: Don’t forget about the Tribunal at the end!

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    Mute Conrad Stapletwin
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:36 PM

    @Jimmy Wallace: … you forgot the Oversight Committee.

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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:43 PM

    @Conrad Stapletwin: hahahah

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    Jan 29th 2024, 2:19 PM

    @Jimmy Wallace: Is it time for your medication or mine?

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    Jan 29th 2024, 4:48 PM

    @Malachy Cox: at which point lessons will be learned!

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    Mute kkjLtYn1
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    Jan 29th 2024, 6:57 PM

    @Jimmy Wallace: you forgot to mention holding a referendum to complete the process…

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    Mute Michael Howe
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    Jan 29th 2024, 7:26 PM

    @Jimmy Wallace: don’t forget about the Oireachtas committee

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    Mute Thomas Meaney
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    Jan 29th 2024, 8:07 PM

    @damien leen: you beat me to it!! Lessons will be learned!!

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    Mute Tom Dillon
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    Jan 29th 2024, 2:30 PM

    As an ex-smoker and current refillable vaper, I’d support this ban. Disposables are a false economy and awful for the environment. And while the UK is already fairly awash with Chinese counterfeit products (which may get worse), I don’t think that’s an argument to not do this. Don’t let Perfection be the enemy of the Good, and all that.

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    Mute Sean O'Dhubhghaill
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:07 PM

    Excellent News!

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    Mute damien leen
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    Jan 29th 2024, 4:49 PM

    @Sean O’Dhubhghaill: Delighted for you.

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    Mute Pavel Shipilov
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:09 PM

    Yes from me.

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    Mute Ken Mc Carthy
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:13 PM

    My youngest girl works Saturdays , few extra €, in a vape shop….she tells me it’s very busy…./ I can’t see that source of income lasting much longer.

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    Mute Soundy Sound
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:17 PM

    @Ken Mc Carthy: what’s wrong with refillable and reusable vapes, Ken?

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    Mute Ken Mc Carthy
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:23 PM

    @Soundy Sound: tbh, I’ve no idea how the yokes work……. so this ban is just on throwaway ones ( 100% agree) & then there’s other ones ( with batteries & little tubs of juice) that will still be available?? Thats a great idea…..local park is always awash with litter— them ‘proud mary’ things

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    Mute Ken Mc Carthy
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:25 PM

    @Ken Mc Carthy: apologies….” LOST mary”

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    Mute Soundy Sound
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    Jan 29th 2024, 2:00 PM

    @Ken Mc Carthy: yet without having a clue, you were against the proposal to ban them! Do you ever stop to think a little and inform yourself before forming an view? It seems not.

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    Mute Larry Betts
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    Jan 29th 2024, 2:12 PM

    @Ken Mc Carthy: You were thinking of another kind of smoking,Ken. “Proud Mary keep on burnin’,and we’re rollin’ (rollin’), rollin’, yeah (rollin’), Rollin’ on the river (rollin’ on the river)”

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    Mute Tom Dillon
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    Jan 29th 2024, 2:24 PM

    @Ken Mc Carthy: they all require batteries. The Lost Mary ones are also disposable.

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    Jan 29th 2024, 3:08 PM

    @Soundy Sound: haha…… you’re soo like Mrs Mc Carthy……you’d look for an argument in an empty church!!!!! LOl

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    Mute damien leen
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    Jan 29th 2024, 4:50 PM

    @Ken Mc Carthy: so because U don’t have a clue… actually nevermind I have to tend to my migraine you have brought on.

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    Mute Larry Betts
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    Jan 29th 2024, 2:18 PM

    As Henry McKean said on Newstalk during the week,instead of all these watermelon and cherry flavoured vapes,you’d think they’d come up with a nice bbq flavour to replicate the lovely smoky sensation of the real stuff. Mmmm,Bbq Beef Hula Hoop,or spicy chorizo,anchovies on toast. That’d be more like it

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    Mute Jerry LeFrog
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    Jan 29th 2024, 6:25 PM

    @Larry Betts: ah stop please Larry! That’d make me want to start vaping!

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    Mute Peter McCormack
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    Jan 29th 2024, 2:05 PM

    Oh no..we will of course follow their lead as we always do.

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    Mute Gerald Obrien
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:23 PM

    I had to stop using disposables after Christmas. It’s a lot of waste and terrible for the environment. There’s loads of refillable alternatives though. OXVA is €35 euro, gives a similar experience to Lost Mary and Elfbar. You can even get those flavours too. It’s a lot cheaper as well.

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    Mute Daniel Wilson
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    Jan 29th 2024, 1:34 PM

    @Gerald Obrien: I love Snaggle Grollop, the flavor is intense

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    Mute Trish O'leary-Dunne
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    Jan 30th 2024, 7:10 AM

    @Gerald Obrien: you can get refillable elf bars. That’s what I use. They look the same but they are rechargeable, you just change the pod. A lot cheaper too.

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    Jan 29th 2024, 7:21 PM

    Sorry for going off topic here,this is the first article down with comments open,the article further down on public sector pay deal and the we want to hear your thoughts,and the comment section closed,Jesus wept,how,if you want to hear people’s thoughts on the deal open the comment section FFS.

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    Mute Gerben
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    Jan 29th 2024, 7:25 PM

    @Deano: How about you starting a discussion forum yourself?

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    Jan 29th 2024, 7:39 PM

    @Gerben: looks like I just did,just as a matter of interest,does it make sense to you to post an article look for people’s thoughts on the subject of the article but close the comment section.

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    Jan 29th 2024, 7:52 PM

    @Deano: They’re not looking for comments or people’s thoughts on the subject, they want it from the horse’s mouth, the ones directly affected. That’s why they put the big blue button at the bottom saying “Tap here to email us.”

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    Jan 29th 2024, 11:20 PM

    @Diarmuid Hunt: They most certainly are looking for your thoughts,its literally there in the article.

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    Jan 29th 2024, 2:13 PM

    If it’s good enough for Britain, then it’s good enough for Ireland

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    Jan 29th 2024, 3:47 PM

    The government are looking into it.

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    Mute Chris Whelan
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    Jan 29th 2024, 8:27 PM

    Comments closed on immigration what’s the point have irish people comment on what effects our country too controversial journal no comment this a farce

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    Mute Wombleman
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    Jan 29th 2024, 8:36 PM

    @Chris Whelan: probably because everyone who wants to comment on those articles just posts total gibberish and most of them have appalling levels of grammar.

    As you have succinctly proven.

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    Jan 29th 2024, 6:54 PM

    100% we should follow this and soon. So many kids 10,11,12 year olds vaping constantly in school at home out with their friends. Sad, as nobody really knows what damage its doing to their health

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    Mute Radical Centrist
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    Jan 29th 2024, 3:02 PM

    I use a refillable vape when I’m not smoking cigarettes. Changing the coil and refilling can be a bit fiddly and messy and still produces waste. I know plenty of people who would have bought cigarettes for a night out and now get a disposable vape instead from the convenience store. I think they’re great for that purpose. Not good for the environment though but would you rather people smoke cigs?

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    Jan 29th 2024, 3:17 PM

    @Radical Centrist: Convenience store? Where do you think you are?

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    Mute Radical Centrist
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    Jan 29th 2024, 3:26 PM

    @Tezmond McVicar: ha! Edit: Shop

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    Jan 29th 2024, 3:28 PM

    @Jimmy Wallace: centra?

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    Mute Clare Maurer
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    Jan 29th 2024, 5:39 PM

    @Radical Centrist: don’t smoke if you only need them for a night out. Long term use refillable for giving up. They are not a cheaper replacement for cigarettes, they cause damage too

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    Jan 29th 2024, 10:17 PM

    @Clare Maurer: it’s very easy to tell people not to smoke, especially drunk people! Vaping by far the lesser of two evils.

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    Jan 29th 2024, 7:06 PM

    They should ban cigarettes and vapes and bring back the pipe for serious smokers. Mind you that will change when some influencer wxxker is filmed smoking a pipe.

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    Jan 29th 2024, 4:29 PM

    Great Decision from the British Government I’m expecting to see no vapes in the hands where young can get them very soon

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    Mute J M
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    Jan 29th 2024, 9:19 PM

    Like the days of alco pops very similar story lines to those whom moan about alco pop flavours now they have vapes to moan on about.

    Social media is far worse than all those things.

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    Mute Dave Grant
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    Jan 29th 2024, 3:18 PM

    Single use, not disposable.

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    Mute Michael Creagh
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    Jan 30th 2024, 1:31 AM

    Just do it then!!

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    Mute Seanfhear míshásta
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    Jan 30th 2024, 2:39 PM

    If he would ‘like to see it’, then just get on with it!

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