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Dozens of the Aeron chairs, which were delivered to Bord Gais Energy's new headquarters this morning. The chairs cost hundreds of euro each. Alex French

Bord Gais Energy may have spent up to €300,000 on luxury office chairs

The energy provider says it was given a good price for its new office furniture, after putting them out to tender across the EU.

BORD GAIS ENERGY may have spent as much as €300,000 kitting out its new headquarters with hundreds of state-of-the-art deluxe office chairs.

A spokesman for the company said it had bought 380 of the Herman Miller Aeron chairs for its new premises at Warrington Place, off the Grand Canal near Mount Street in Dublin 2, where these pictures by TheJournal.ie reader Alex French show they were delivered this morning.

The spokesman said that the company was given a significant discount on its bulk order – and that it sought interest from suppliers from across the European Union before buying them.

The spokesman declined to say, however, how much it had paid for the chairs – which were supplied by Irish supplier MJ Flood, who are an official Herman Miller agent in Ireland.

“The selection is made on the basis of the most competitive tender,” the spokesman said. “Bord Gais Energy has fundamentally gone through all that.

“Having gone through a full tendering procedure, we’re talking about a competitive price.”

MJ Flood this afternoon told TheJournal.ie that such a quantity of chairs could be supplied for around €650 each, excluding VAT at 21 per cent.

At a VAT-inclusive price of €786.50, an order of 380 chairs would therefore have come to a total of €298,870 – not including delivery or other associated charges.

Bought on a standalone basis, a salesperson told us, the chairs sell at €750 plus VAT.

The Bord Gais Energy spokesman said it could not reveal how much it had paid for the chairs, as to do so would be a breach of its confidential deal with the supplier. He said:

Bord Gais is a State company – we have high standards in terms of safety practices. Any chair considered would have been tested rigorously and has to meet the standards set down.

The Aeron chair, he explained, was “quite a standard chair used, in terms of the quality that is required” by office buildings.

The 380 staff are due to move into Warrington Place from the current headquarters in Foley Street next week, in order to cater for the growth in BGE’s business since it entered the home electricity market.

The company had secured a lease on its new premises last year “at a favourable time”, the spokesman said, agreeing a deal to move into the David Arnold-owned premises in April of last year.

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    Mute Adrian Mac
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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:21 AM

    If the Irish public took the approach of the gilets jaunes in France maybe we could finally force our so called “leaders” to take action. We need to drive fear into the hearts of Eoghan Murphy, Damien English and Leo Varadkar to drive change. They will not listen otherwise.

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:53 AM

    @Adrian Mac: Maybe we need to make arguments for why sustainable rent controls is better for investors, jobs and multinationals here rather than threatening fear and strife (to people who don’t really care anyway). It is a big problem now affecting inbound jobs as well as internal jobs, and while “social housing” sounds like the answer to rent increases (it 100% isn’t), linking rent increases to inflation would not impact the investor market, making it less risky, but also provide stability in planning. Also, for new houses made available to rent, we need a calculation of maximum rent based on build costs and local averages to prevent clusters of rent increases. There are ways to control rent – you just need to appeal to all rather than kicking up a fuss.

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    Mute Dot Com
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    Dec 13th 2018, 1:11 AM

    @Gulliver Foyle: I think enough time has been given to the parasites in power to do the right thing, It may now be time for action to focus their efforts.

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Dec 13th 2018, 1:34 AM

    @Dot Com: The problem is we live in a democracy, and until the impact of rent affects the 80% middle class, then the status quo offers them what they want (a comfortable standard of living in one of the safest countries in the world). The fact is with high employment (which just means both parents working), these rent levels are not a barrier to work. Only when it affects the next generation will a change be made, but by then the middle will be in a position to sell their houses and get out of the city, or use the high rent to subsidise their kids getting a mortgage no a new build.

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    Mute Adrian Mac
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    Dec 13th 2018, 2:06 AM

    @Gulliver Foyle: It’s already affecting the next generation. The prospect of trying to find a house to rent when you’re a young adult is daunting – and that’s putting it lightly. It shouldn’t be the case that young adults who are working and contributing to society cannot find somewhere to live and have to resort to living in their parents homes or living in abysmal accommodation which costs a fortune and isn’t up to standard.

    This problem has been going on for years at this point and the slow and steady approach adopted by the government is not working. We need a drastic change in pace from those responsible for housing in this country and we need it fast.

    Disruption to the status quo may be the only means to achieve pace at this point.

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    Mute WillietheKid
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    Dec 13th 2018, 3:26 AM

    @Adrian Mac: That Damien English is a bigger robot then Murphy. Both of them excruciating to listen to.

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    Mute Gary O'Brien
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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:56 AM

    €500 a month I’m paying in rent down in Donegal, split between 2 people. About to buy a 76msq apartment for €55k.

    That’s some difference compared to Dublin. I know some people just want the city life but for me having a home secured at 29 is better than having the stress of living week to week in one of the big cities, saving for a mortgage that you’ll be paying for the rest of your life!

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    Mute Marcus o Dhonnghaile
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    Dec 13th 2018, 6:24 AM

    @Gary O’Brien: No work for most west of the shannon

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    Mute Pauliebhoy
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    Dec 13th 2018, 7:20 AM

    @Marcus o Dhonnghaile: Over 50% unemployment West of The Shannon?

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Dec 13th 2018, 7:30 AM

    @Gary O’Brien: there are also plenty jobs outside of Dublin, with new job announcements in galway, Sligo and in your part of the world, sita and pramerica in letterkenny offering just under Dublin salaries for a pittance of the rent. but there is a massive reason for being in the city in terms of health (counter intuitive, but proven), knowledge and society. Employees, while moaning about primarily transport and then rent, understand this is the situation and trade off, and are encouraged to live here. this won’t change unless skilled employees stop coming and then prices will drop, but so will jobs.

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    Dec 13th 2018, 8:53 AM

    @Gary O’Brien: wow

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    Mute Patrick O Connell
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    Dec 13th 2018, 9:35 AM

    @Gary O’Brien: I’m paying 450 for 3 bed house and living halfway between cork and limerick, 50 mins to cork and 30 to limerick. Plenty of places outside the cities. Also the average person in the Pale is 1600ish, that means half the people up there are paying less than the average

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    Mute David Lacey
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    Dec 13th 2018, 3:30 PM

    @Patrick O Connell: Not sure how they calculate the average. Long leases might have older rents. The min rent is 1800 a month for a 3 bed in Dublin.

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    Mute pearse
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    Dec 13th 2018, 8:50 PM

    @Kamshafft: off you go

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    Mute Socky Varadkar
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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:08 AM

    Great value for renters! Happy for my landlord friends in the party, everyone is a winner.

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    Mute John Hazelnut
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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:47 AM

    @Socky Varadkar: Especially those who are able to lie to Revenue Self Assessment with the aid of committed, Fine Gael leaning Accountants.

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    Mute Cormac McKay Dublin
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    Dec 13th 2018, 2:43 AM

    We are inviting another crash and we haven’t recovered from the last one! We’ll some of you escaped but it could be you next time, start caring about your neighbors and demand reform there are plenty of solutions like 150000 odd empty properties we have to start a policy of use it or lose it.

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    Mute Marcus o Dhonnghaile
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    Dec 13th 2018, 6:27 AM

    @Cormac McKay Dublin: How many of those properties are in Dublin ? Many wont live outside Dublin .

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Dec 13th 2018, 7:31 AM

    @Marcus o Dhonnghaile: build infrastructure and they will.

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    Mute Margate
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    Dec 13th 2018, 5:00 PM

    @Gulliver Foyle: No they wont..Build another home beside it for Granny & extended family ( to childmind)+ bus stop+ shop + school + hospital….yep, i WANT them on my doorstep

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    Mute Kieran OKeeffe
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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:30 AM

    Is the tax on rent the replacement for stamp duty…absolute insane market

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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:44 AM

    @Kieran OKeeffe: Maybe the tax on Rental Income for Ordinary Landlords is designed to constrict the Rental Market, and consign Landlords, except for a certain powerfully Fine Gael supporting cabal, to the dustbin? Perhaps Cabal landlords are advised to collect in non-traceable cash, lie through their teeth to the RTB about the number of tenants they have, claiming they are simply sharing, rather than being a Landlord. (RTB aren’t going to send a posse up to investigate, anyway).

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    Mute Charles Coughlan
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    Dec 13th 2018, 3:38 AM

    That rent is pittance if you are on a TD’s or Government minister’s salary.

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    Mute Lucie Cunningham
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    Dec 13th 2018, 1:32 AM

    Or you could Homeshare for €195 per month.

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    Dec 13th 2018, 8:12 AM

    @Lucie Cunningham: nice try at promoting your business Lucie.

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    Dec 13th 2018, 8:46 AM

    @Jonathan Power: in fairness to her she is thinking outside the box and offering a solution. Most people moan and do nothing.

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    Mute Reuben Gray
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    Dec 13th 2018, 11:00 AM

    @Lucie Cunningham: Your business does actually seem like a good idea Lucie. However, please get someone to proof read your website. There are mistakes all over the place that start on the homepage itself and continues pretty much throughout the site.

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    Mute Terrence Edwards
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    Dec 13th 2018, 10:16 AM

    Meanwhile my mortgage on a 3 bedroom house in rathfarnham is 1300. The system is utterly knackered.

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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:30 AM
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    Dec 13th 2018, 10:24 AM

    Getting to a point it’s nearly impossible on.your own to rent unless you make close to 1k a week.

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    Mute Niall Dunne
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    Dec 13th 2018, 10:02 AM

    for most of us sharing we sign individual leases at a set sharing rate. For example my rent is 900 to rent a bedroom in a shared house and that is pretty typical for Dublin city. Otherwise known as just under 50% of my income.

    In terms of moving out of Dublin. I actually studied my post grad in Belfast and lived there for a number of years. I was paying 200 a month in rent for the same set up I have now. However I was earning half of what I earn in Dublin. So it was really the same. The problem, regardless of where in Ireland we are is the cost of living. We need proper rent tied to peoples income. If everyone paid 15% in rent then maybe we can actually enjoy life instead of being constantly broke.

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    Mute Derek
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    Dec 13th 2018, 10:28 AM

    @Niall Dunne: by those numbers you were much better off in Belfast.

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    Dec 13th 2018, 10:47 AM

    @Derek: except I would have been stuck in low paid employment for the rest of my life. In Dublin I can build a career.

    The system is a joke in this country.

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    Mute Martin Gerard Smith
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    Dec 13th 2018, 2:47 AM

    Delusional
    Wonder who paying this ? Crazy beyond wildest nightmare

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Dec 13th 2018, 7:44 AM

    @Martin Gerard Smith: everyone – that’s what statistics are about. you are either paying above this, or below it, but on average this is the rent per property – whether it’s a mansion in foxrock or a slum in darndale.

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    Dec 13th 2018, 1:34 AM

    Hooray for all the build to rent schemes happening! Everyone can afford investment company rates…

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    Mute Stephen Maher
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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:53 PM

    The number of landlords falls, but ill bet the number of properties being privatly rented must be on the rise given that large Funds are buying up complete developments off plans. ??

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    Mute RM
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    Dec 13th 2018, 1:22 PM

    @Stephen Maher: what do you mean by “privately rented”

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    Mute Stephen Maher
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    Dec 13th 2018, 2:13 PM

    @RM:

    Sorry not a great description, i mean not state owned, privatly owned and rented.

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    Mute Moorooka Mick
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    Dec 13th 2018, 3:22 PM

    Just shift those on welfare for more than 5 years to regions where rental rates are low.
    Leitrim has perfectly good apartments @ E450/month:
    https://www.daft.ie/leitrim/apartments-for-rent/?s%5Bignored_agents%5D%5B0%5D=428&s%5Bignored_agents%5D%5B1%5D=1551

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    Dec 13th 2018, 3:28 PM
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    Mute Gus McIntosh
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    Dec 13th 2018, 5:51 AM

    It surely must be referring to properties and not individuals? What is the average rent per individual or is it to hard to determine this?

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Dec 13th 2018, 7:42 AM

    @Gus McIntosh: good point, but it didn’t fit the narrative. the data is there, but you need to look for it. it is broken down by house size (bedrooms), and but it does include 4 bedroom detached houses amongst the stars, which are for 4+ adults or families. associate the rent per employed adult would probably yield €600 per month or rent as 20% of household income, which is, er, very attractive.

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    Dec 13th 2018, 9:40 AM

    @Gus McIntosh: Well this is for a full property. However for most of us sharing we sign individual leases at a set sharing rate. For example my rent is 900 to rent a bedroom in a shared house and that is pretty typical for Dublin city. Otherwise known as just under 50% of my income.

    In terms of moving out of Dublin. I actually studied my post grad in Belfast and lived there for a number of years. I was paying 200 a month in rent for the same set up I have now. However I was earning half of what I earn in Dublin. So it was really the same. The problem, regardless of where in Ireland we are is the cost of living. We need proper rent tied to peoples income. If everyone paid 15% in rent then maybe we can actually enjoy life instead of being constantly broke.

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    Mute John Declan
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    Dec 13th 2018, 11:05 AM

    That’s a lot of extra money to live in a Toilet.

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    Mute Sam Glynn
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    Dec 13th 2018, 3:00 PM

    I wish you could find somewhere in Galway for that price. Been looking for months now and nowhere cheaper than 1600 most days and even at that they’re are very little out there to rent. I can only presume these ads are getting massive responses as I have yet to hear back from any property since I’ve started looking. Looks like we’ll be in emergency accommodation after Christmas, if we are lucky, while paying for storage for all our furniture etc. We have references, we have the money, we just can’t get a viewing for any property available. If anyone on here knows of somewhere or is a landlord reading this, please help us find a home in Galway in new year.

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    Mute Sean Conway
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    Dec 13th 2018, 8:27 AM

    And landlords are still complaining.

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    Mute Sean
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    Dec 13th 2018, 10:54 AM

    @Sean Conway: Did you read the article? They’ve stopped complaining and started leaving the market in large numbers.

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    Mute Rob Cahill
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    Dec 13th 2018, 11:27 AM

    @Sean Conway: You realize they only get half the rent right?? The rest is Tax..

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    Mute Mary Dunphy
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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:18 PM

    @Rob Cahill: That is the point and most people seem to overlook it. Headline should clarify this.Rent paid is another source of taxation. For every €1,000 a tenant pays in rent €500 goes into Government coffers. Actual rent equates to €500 for the landlord who owns and maintains the property and is more than likely paying a mprthage on it and €500 for the Govetnment who has no intetest other
    than monetary gain in the same. Question: who exactly is drivivg rental prices up under the circumstances?

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    Mute Roger Camp
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    Dec 13th 2018, 5:53 PM

    Our ex landlord put the rent up from 800 to 1200 per month after we left, the house istill empty 6 months on.

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    Mute pearse
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    Dec 13th 2018, 8:57 PM

    @Roger Camp: so offer him 1100

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    Mute Peter
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    Dec 13th 2018, 12:48 PM

    IRES REIT are doing this.

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    Mute pearse
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    Dec 13th 2018, 8:56 PM

    If the government are going to tax landlords to the teeth and basically control rent increases then landlords will just say it’s easier to sell up and sit on the nest egg. When Ireland make it profitable for landlords to invest their hard earned money then we will have rent control because of availability. Simple, other countries grasped the concept but unfortunately the small minded politicians still have not figured this out yet

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    Dec 13th 2018, 10:19 PM

    @pearse: You’re talking sense but it doesn’t fit in with the narrative so expect some angry responses

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    Mute XvSv
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    Dec 13th 2018, 8:32 AM

    Was paying 800 punts monthly rent in 1999 for standard 3 bed 3 bath duplex house (over 2 bed ground floor apartment) Salthill area Galway. Would have been more expensive only for small rent increase per year. Moved out years later when finished building own house. Rent was always expensive.

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