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Britain still undecided on UN Palestinian vote: ambassador

The nations’ UN ambassador says Britain believes the Palestinians should delay their application over fears the move could backfire.

BRITAIN HAS NOT yet decided whether to vote for a Palestinian observer state membership of the United Nations this week, British UN ambassador Mark Lyall Grant said Tuesday.

Lyall Grant told reporters that Britain believes the Palestinians should delay their application from Thursday but is still in talks with the Palestinian Authority and would decide “in due time” how to vote.

“We have been engaging with them intensively, both here in New York and in Ramallah,” the ambassador said before a UN Security Council meeting on the Middle East.

The Palestinians are certain to get a majority at the 193-member UN General Assembly but already face opposition from the United States and Israel and are desperate to get other key powers to back the bid.

France has announced that it will vote for the Palestinians when President Mahmud Abbas seeks “non-member state” status at the General Assembly on Thursday.

Britain and Germany have warned the Palestinians that the vote could backfire and undermine fading hopes for a Palestinian state living alongside Israel if the vote does not lead to new direct talks, diplomats said.

The 27-country European Union is divided on the vote with diplomats predicting that between 11 and 15 EU countries could back the Palestinian bid.

- © AFP, 2012

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    Mute Smooth Shriller
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    Apr 1st 2017, 7:38 AM

    Still no word from Sipo on where PLC, Iona, Lolek LTD or any other prolife group get their money

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    Mute lavbeer
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    Apr 1st 2017, 10:00 AM

    @Smooth Shriller: is there an investigation ongoing or is this just a childish comment?

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    Mute Martin Byrne
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    Apr 1st 2017, 12:14 PM

    @lavbeer: wouldn’t it be better if they just said how they are funded? I mean RTE get them onto every show for balance every time they have someone rational on, surely we should know who is trying to influence national policy, no?

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    Apr 1st 2017, 2:00 PM

    @Martin Byrne: I don’t really care Martin to be honest. Was just asking if smooth knew of an investigation or it was a school yard comment. I don’t listen to any of the extreme groups personally

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    Apr 11th 2017, 5:15 PM

    @Smooth Shriller: Big difference.

    Prolife groups exist and work to SAVE human lives and babies from being aborted to death in their mothers womb, and protect their mothers from the psychological damage abortion inflicts, — prolife campaigns should be supported materially, by all good people, who value human life and rights..

    Pro abortion propaganda pushers like O’Gormans Amnesty and the aborted babies boby part seller Planned Parenthood Irish affiliate, IFPA, promote and push for more abortion – and their evil campaign SHOULD be exposed, defunded, and shunned.

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    Apr 20th 2017, 7:32 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: LIAR.

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    Apr 20th 2017, 8:02 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: oh, and amnesty would be following the exact same policies whether O Gorman was at the helm or not, so why hate on him personally?

    Guess you are ignoring that 98% of abortions in the UK take place because continuing the pregnancy poses a greater risk to the woman’s health than were she to abort.
    You’ll call that “lifestyle reasons” in an attempt to justify your prejudice against women, when in reality, all the woman is doing is engaging in self preservation – but she doesn’t matter, right?

    The pro life side should be honest about their funding.. But they refuse to be.. Been asking Cora Sherlock to share the pro life campaigns books daily since last august when she started crowing about Soros like you are.. Still waiting to see their books.. What’s their funding eh??

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    Apr 1st 2017, 7:32 AM

    A good decision. And let us not forget that Youth Defence has a dedicated US based fundraising arm: http://geoffsshorts.blogspot.ie/2012/09/youth-defence-money-shot.html

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    Apr 1st 2017, 8:10 AM

    @Geoff Lillis: Let us also not forget that Youth Defence and the Life Institute both have the same address and are basically the same group, they pretend there’s more than one of them to inflate their numbers.

    http://www.youthdefence.ie/contact-us/
    http://www.thelifeinstitute.net/about-us/contact-us/

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:23 AM

    @Geoff Lillis: A good decision? It’s not like they had much choice!

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    Apr 1st 2017, 12:11 PM

    @Geoff Lillis: agreed. The anti-choice, keep-women-down, god-in-your-knickers brigade will have to use a different tactic now. They were saying that all campaigners for women’s rights were being paid directly by Soros. 23k is nothing. I wonder what youth defence and Life House get from their US freaky counterparts?

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    Apr 1st 2017, 12:12 PM

    @Emeralds: I think they did have a choice. Choice is good!

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    Apr 11th 2017, 5:20 PM

    @Geoff Lillis: Great. More luck to YD, and all prolifers.

    YD need every penny, to save babies lives from abortion, and from the abortion ghouls like Soros, PP, and their well funded Irish dummy groups, who campaign for increased abortion of babies under Irish law, and who have the corrupt, pro abortion Irish media, and cowardly politicians, beaten into complicit silence

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    Mute Val
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    Apr 1st 2017, 8:57 AM

    So George Soros funded them, the same billionaire who funded BLM and many radical left wing groups. Colour me surprised.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:09 AM

    @Val: being open and transparent with their funding how very radical of them, same can’t be said for most Pro-life groups. I think you’ll find abortion is more than a left vs right issue as well but I guess your brain needs to slap labels on things to cope with its diminished capacity.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:09 AM

    OMG!!!!

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:16 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: eh no Dave, they weren’t being open and transparent, they were called out on it and on advice from SIPO returned the money. Massive difference.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:28 AM

    @Sean @114: hard to get called out on something you don’t tell anyone about isn’t it?

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:32 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Is t?

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:37 AM

    @Sean @114: obviously it is. If nobody knows then nobody can advise you to give it back.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 10:24 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: They weren’t open and transparent, they were caught

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    Apr 1st 2017, 11:17 AM

    @Val: name me 1 radical left wing group.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 11:52 AM

    Antifa?

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    Apr 1st 2017, 12:16 PM

    @Val: 23k? That’s not funding :-) you’d hardly get a ‘Hello Divorce, Goodbye Daddy’ poster campaign funded for that.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:38 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: They were neither open nor transparent with their funding. They were told by a senior SIPO officer that they could show SIPO their accounts, after refusing to and claiming the regulations were ‘draconian’, or the Gardai would be informed. Which is rather an important point which this article omits.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:48 PM

    @Gary Kavanagh: it might be an important point but your wording has probably not done it justice

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    Apr 1st 2017, 4:01 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I think Dave, if the wording confused you, that might be more on you than on me. It remains an important point, and one you were entirely wrong about.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 10:49 AM

    @Gary Kavanagh: why lie Gary?
    ARC have always been compliant with SIPO.. We aren’t talking about youth defence, life institute, family and life or the pro life campaign here.. ARC have never claimed that they were a charity or that they don’t engage in politics to avoid the SIPO responsibility.. That’s pro life groups..

    You can see all of this for yourself over on SIPOs website. If you keep lying it just makes you look bad..

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    Apr 12th 2017, 2:53 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: they returned the money, thru’ gritted teeth, ONLY when its illegality was pointed out to them by SIPO, and the Garda were becoming involved.

    i.e. when they were caught campaigning for abortion with their paw in the SOROS billions.

    Fund prolife groups who defend human babies lives and rights against the SOROS abortion pushers.

    Defund O’Gormans Amnesty, IFPA or other abortion pushers.

    Why, and for how much, are tax payers forced to support abortion pushers ?

    Why didn’t our Sham Citizens Assembly farce, or our media, expose the funding of pro abortion groups?

    If prolife groups were involved, theyed be apoplectic jumping up and down about it.

    Defend life. Support prolife groups, against Soros, Chuck Feeney an dtheir Irish pro abortion stooges.

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    Apr 20th 2017, 7:33 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: lying again, why do that? Is easily verified..

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:26 AM

    They only returned the cash under threat of a Garda referral.

    Amnesty and IFPA, who each received €150k for the same purpose should also be forced to give that money back.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 11:57 AM

    @Shane P. Slayer: actually they shouldn’t. amnesty and the ifpa are both recognised charities with registered charity numbers so they don’t have any political affiliation. Therefore they can take a donation from whoever they wish. The same goes for religious organisations. It’s the reason why sipo can’t persue the Iona Institute, youth defence etc. because they operate under the guise of a ‘religious organisation’.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 12:16 PM

    @Shane P. Slayer: why, Shane?

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    Apr 8th 2017, 6:07 PM

    @PJ Maguire Kavanagh: Amnesty and IFPA are both engaged in a political campaign to destroy the 8th Amendments protection of unborn children from abortion.
    They are Soros “collective” , as his OS group stated, lavishly funded as a “collective campaign” strategy to remove the 8th, and introduce abortion here.

    IFPA is the Irish affiliate of giant abortion business, Planned Parenthood, who have been caught red-handed selling aborted baby body parts for profit. The Soros funded IFPA never condemned, and do condone, by their deafening silence, their parent body PPs, disgusting aborted baby body parts sell-for-profit scandalous abuse of unborn, or nearly born , human babies.

    Our pro abortion NUJ media buried the embarrassing PP baby bodies for sale story, just like they are now, in the main, studiously ignoring the SOROS pro abortion group campaign funding. Hypocrites.

    All pro abortion campaigners should be defunded.
    Support all prolife pro 8th groups with your money, time, votes and voice against SOROS and their local lackeys.

    Does SIPO REALLY expect people to believe O’Gormans pro abortion Amnesty, and the IFPA pro aborts got the SOROS huge funding for any other reason but for a campaign to attack the 8ths protection ?

    Support prolife groups against these evil people.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:28 AM

    Returned “on advice” from Sipo.

    No. Returned after SIPO repeatedly threatened to report them to the Gardai.

    God you guys will do anything to spin a story for the choicers.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 12:17 PM

    @John McGuirk: I like the term, ‘choicer’ thanks! What does that make the opposing side?

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    Apr 1st 2017, 3:47 PM

    @John McGuirk: any word on when we will see the funding sources for any of the pro life campaigns?
    I’d really like to know which organisations are benefitting from the donations sought at lifehouseireland.org and cherishlifeireland.org.. As well as Joseph Scheidler and Tom Monaghans contributions..

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    Apr 8th 2017, 6:13 PM

    @John McGuirk: yes, they will, won’t they ? Our pro abortion media spinners at work.

    Defund pro abortion Amnesty and IFPA now. Why are Irish taxpayers supporting them ?

    Scandalous.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 1:05 AM

    @Martin Byrne: aborted babies don’t get any “choice”. They die by abortion.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 10:34 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: a foetus can’t make a decision, given that much like yourself pet, they don’t have fully formed brains.

    But of course, you don’t care about women.. Typical foetus worshipping misogynist..

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    Apr 18th 2017, 5:20 PM

    @Shanti: actually, the abortionist frequently sticks his knife thru the babys brain in the mothers womb… fully formed or not… the baby dies in EVERY single abortion.

    This is what you and the anti 8th abortion on demand SOROS funded bandwagon wants in Ireland, as happens elsewhere.

    Al least 50% of babies who die in this way, are female … and COULD have been born loved, reared into beautiful women–

    but you and the pro abortion (anti 8th) on demand propagandist mob, convinced people that aborting them to death was OK, cool, chic even “a choice” (life or death).

    ProLifers care enough about women NOT to want to see them aborted to death, which you do.

    Defund Amnesty, IFPA and other abortion – pushers.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 8:29 AM

    The anti choice groups really do love going on the EWTN channel and begging the Americans for their $$$$$ …
    It’s a “pity” that they deleted their video of them actually doing this ..

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:13 AM

    Below is one group that a moody,wannabe male gynecologist & a spreader of deeply flawed studies asked American people to donate to :

    http://cherishlifeireland.org/about-us/

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    Apr 1st 2017, 3:42 PM

    @Francis Mc Carthy: don’t forget lifehouseireland.org also American tax free donations going towards the fight to “keep Ireland pro life”, who’s benefitting from that?
    Or indeed Joseph Scheidler or Tom Monaghans donations…

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    Apr 9th 2017, 12:23 AM

    @Francis Mc Carthy: its great that good people give their money to prolife groups to fight baby killing pro abortion campaigners like O’Gormans Amnesty and IFPA, affiliated as they are to Planned Parenthoods aborted body parts sellers.

    No problem there. People should donate as often and as much as then can afford, to prolife groups, to oppose local pro abortion pushers and lackeys, fronting for Soros and his ilk.

    Pro abortion anti 8th abortion pushers (Amnesty, IFPA) should be completely defunded before their ideolgy of death kills even more by abortion.

    Give to prolife groups who defend babies from being aborted to death (and possibly, their parts sold).
    Irish pro abort media largely buries both 1) PP selling aborted body parts and 2) IFPA link to Planned Parenthood, the aborted baby body part sellers.

    Recognize abortion pushers for what they are, and defund their evil.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 1:00 AM

    @Shanti: whos benefiting ? Babies who are born rather than aborted, thats who — coz the 8th, which Soros and his tame Irish pro abortion lackeys want destroyed, protects the unborn from being aborted to death.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 1:04 AM

    @Francis Mc Carthy: Don’t worry, good people can defend babies and Ireland against the viciously anti 8th abortion on demand regime, which Soros and his paid Irish stooges desire,

    …by donating directly, little or big, whatever they can, to Irish prolife groups who oppose the abortion of human babies.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 10:36 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: that’s the thing though.. It’s not Irish people who are funding pro life. It’s Americans.
    Both those charities are AMERICAN. same way Joseph Scheidler and Tom Monaghan, both big funders of the Irish pro lies lobby are AMERICAN..
    Not Irish. This is why the pro liars never comply with SIPO.

    At least ARC were happy to be transparent and honest.. You’ll never get that from pro lies.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 7:34 AM

    Fair play.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:42 AM

    George Soros loves women … his open society donated 246 million dollars between 2010 and 2014 to over a 100 of the 500 groups who organised the womens march in January of this year, incidentally the day after Trump was elected.
    Women were encouraged to skip work, wear red and forego shopping…for some reason.
    Pro life womens groups were removed from the program. These were non women.
    George Soros is the champion of women. He wants women to feel in control of their destinies. Women should have abortions at will if they want to. One day of the year too, it is good to wear red and cut out shopping apparently.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/7/george-soros-gave-246-million-partners-womens-marc/

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:50 AM

    @raymond grehan: so he gave 100 groups money 3 years ago and now anything they do is down to him. I once gave money to solace, is that on me now too?

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    Apr 9th 2017, 12:29 AM

    @raymond grehan: abortion kills female babies — who would grow into beautiful women, if Soros, Amnesty, IFPA and the pro aborts didn’t encourage other women to kill them off by abortion.

    PROLIFE WOMEN banned from that MARCH? Tells its own story about “tolerance” liberal” claptrap on abortion.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 10:38 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: they were banned from the March for being misogynists.. Like you. You don’t care about female babies.. You just care about controlling women and forcing childbirth upon them..
    Thats not care. That’s hatred.

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    Apr 18th 2017, 5:28 PM

    @Shanti: Rubbish.

    They were banned cuz they opposed abortion of babies, male or female, to death, and the fascist pro aborts running this March couldn’t have, or admit, that.

    So much for anti 8th, pro aborts much trumpeting waffle about “choices”, “inclusiveness”, and other utter meaningless double talk.

    Anti 8th pro aborts are full of this rubbish about “choices” etc, — the reality is babies get NO choice about when aborted to death.

    Anti 8th pro aborts are riddled with this hypocrisy, hiding their real abortion on demand agenda.

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    Apr 20th 2017, 7:34 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: whereas your hypocrisy leads to the death of actual, living, breathing women..
    The only lying fascist here is you, the mysogynist who wants ultimate control of women’s bodies.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:56 AM

    George Soros made his money from stealing all the valuables belonging to Jewish people and others in NAZI and corporations slave labour death camps in WW2…..I’m sure he is a lovely chap.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 10:10 AM

    @Dick Durkin: you know he was born in 1931 right? 14 at the end of the war

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    Apr 1st 2017, 12:35 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: facts don’t matter to them Dave. You know that.

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    Apr 11th 2017, 5:24 PM

    @Dick Durkin:
    interesting comparison you inspire, between the bloody, industrial – scale, ruthless, killing for profit of the UK (and other) abortion mills, which our looney left wants for Ireland — and the Nazis concentration camp killing and robbery/exploitation machine.

    Innocents die in both.

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    Apr 11th 2017, 5:42 PM

    @Rob Cahill: facts ?

    try these.

    aborted babies hearts beat, their blood bleeds, they have toes, eyes and thumbs, when aborted to death, for the trash can,…
    … if PP DOESN’T SELL their aborted body parts.

    And pro aborts, like you think, and preach, their death by abortion. You tell people that all of that abortion slaughter….is OK ?

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    Apr 12th 2017, 9:04 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: I don’t like to try argue facts with people who clearly have no time for them but you do realise those PP videos were made and heavily edited by 2 prolife nutjobs who are now being charged for it and heading to prison for a long time right?? Also late term abortions like you are describing are very rare and almost always because the fetus is not viable or the mothers life is threatened. The average termination is no more graphic than a heavy period. But you know that already. If it was so shocking you would use that as an example but like everything prolife you need to lie and exaggerate. It’s why no one with any sense has any time for your pathetic views.

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    Apr 20th 2017, 7:35 AM

    @Rob Cahill: also why he need come to the article weeks after its published, guess he expects to never be challenged.. Otherwise he would not trade exclusively in lies..

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    Apr 20th 2017, 8:53 AM

    @Shanti: Probably spent all that time coming up with an argument and that’s all he could come up with. Sad really.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:32 PM

    I wonder if the Iona institute will send their American funding back.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:33 PM

    @Seán J. Troy: Why would they get anything?

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    Apr 9th 2017, 10:39 AM

    @Alois Irlmaier: They’re not SIPO compliant.. Who funds them?

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    Apr 11th 2017, 5:37 PM

    @Seán J. Troy: lets hope not, if they get any.

    SOROS and his tame pro abortion, anti 8th Irish lapdogs, and media cheerleaders, would love to cripple prolife groups who defend unborn lives from abortion, financially.

    You would too.

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    Apr 12th 2017, 9:39 PM
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    Apr 1st 2017, 11:08 AM

    Caught with their pants down.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 12:56 AM

    @Tommy Bannon: How come the normally very loquacious Colm O’Gorman from Amnesty, isn’t on every sympathetic media platform which his pro abortion media mates normallyafford him, telling us how the Soros anti 8th, pro abortion campaign money, ended up in anti 8th pro abortion Amnestys campaign chest ?

    He didn’t cover that point in his verbose Citizens Assembly propaganda piece. Strange.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 11:50 AM

    @lavbeer: that there is no SIPO probe of Iona’s funding and activities speaks volumes about SIPO’s purported neutrality and Iona’s power and influence in the state.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 12:36 AM

    @Shane OCurry: Soros, Amnesty, IFPA promote aborting babies to death. They want abortion on demand of babies to death here in Ireland.

    Iona, Youth Defence defend babies from being aborted to death, and so SHOULD be well funded and supported by all of us, any way you can, little or big, all helps.

    Thats the CRUCIAL difference.

    The SOROS billions shows the power and scale of those attacking the 8th, and whose backing their local pro abortion anti 8th, mouthpieces.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 10:40 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: tell us oh wise one..

    Can a 13 week foetus live outside of the womb?
    If not, then it’s not actually living yet. So death isn’t quite the same thing.. But hey, why let a biological fact get in the way of your misogynist rants eh?

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    Apr 11th 2017, 5:03 PM

    @Shanti: So, lets kill it, eh ? yeh, murderous pro abortion rubbish.

    heres the main, biological fact, O foolish one, — abortions kill babies in their mothers womb stone dead , every time, before and beyond 13 weeks, – with a beating heart, fingers and toes, full genetic genome, ending a human life. Their age don’t matter, when you are dead.

    If living unaided outside the womb was the criterion for being allowed to live, unborn babies could be aborted up til 9 months (which u advocate) and all the premature babies could have their respirators switched off ? Downs babies to be killed as well ?
    But then, pro abortion fools like you, favour abortion of humans til birth, don’t you ?

    In fact, you encourage it. O idiotic one, no matter what age the unborn baby.

    Try studying your own Ultrasound images of babies in their mothers womb.. In your case, tho’, probably “biologically” pointless.

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    Apr 18th 2017, 5:35 PM

    @Shanti: thats a child LIVING, developing, and growing in his/her mothers womb — as you once were.

    They have the same, full genetic make up from their conception to life after birth, and to death.

    Abortion, which you advocate, kills these small, developing babies.

    Should we kill all the preterm babies, living outside the womb, on life support ? — because they are born early, cost money, and are inconvenient ?

    Youd be happy just to abort them to death — as “a choice”.

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    Apr 20th 2017, 7:39 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: wow, do you get tired carrying around straw men like that?
    A foetus becomes viable outside of the womb around the third trimester. Prior to that it has fingers, toes and no working brain. In other words, it’s not alive.
    And lol, you realise that there are types of cancer with individual DNA that grow inside the womb, right?

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:43 PM

    They were told by a senior SIPO officer that they could show SIPO their accounts, after refusing to and claiming the regulations were ‘draconian’, or the Gardai would be informed. Rather an important point which this article omits.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 2:46 PM

    @Gary Kavanagh: again, I’m sure there’s a point in there but just like the last time you posted the exact same muddled comment, it’s meaning is lost in the wording.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 12:43 AM

    @Gary Kavanagh: yes, but unsurprising omission given the Irish media’ pro abortion bias.

    The NUJ supports abortion , and marches with its banner at “pro choice ” i.e. pro abortion events.

    ARC only returned their pro abortion loot, when threatened with Garda action. Why are pro abort Amnesty and IFPA not returning their SOROS anti 8th campaign war fund ? Whats SIPO and Frances Fitzgerald doing about these Soros funds ?

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    Apr 9th 2017, 10:42 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: you mean what are they doing about groups seeking grants from philanthropic organisations?
    Thats what SIPO are for. And as a result of SIPOs decision, this funding was returned to source.
    When will the pro lies side comply with SIPO?

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    Apr 18th 2017, 5:46 PM

    @Shanti: great to see pro abortion groups being defunded, even if they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the Gardai door by SIPO. When are the other pro aborts Amnesty and IFPA going to come clean ?

    Giving money to pro aborts is like funding the Nazis and calling it “a patriotic choice”.
    Pushing abortion is NOT some noble cause, it’s death dealing propaganda whichs ends in dead, aborted babies. Defund it, and them , now

    Great too that people give money to courageous prolife groups who oppose babies being aborted to death, and expose the pro abortion, anti 8th liars as the abortion pushers which they are, and thats why pro aborts like SOROS, GATES, FEENEY foundations fund them.

    Oppose abortion ? Then support prolife groups with your money, time, voice and votes.

    Vote pro abortion politicians out of office. Fund prolife groups any way u can.

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    Apr 20th 2017, 7:41 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones:
    Whereas the Irish pro lies lobby has ties to actual neo nazi groups. Won’t even comply with SIPO claiming that they aren’t lobbies, allegedly they’re charities (oh look, fraud too).
    Oppose abortion, then don’t bloody well have one, but don’t place other women’s health and lives at risk for your twisted morals.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:22 AM
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    Apr 1st 2017, 9:31 AM

    @Each Way Thief: never trust a doctor that calls a foetus a child. Also he knows he can quit right? Or is somebody forcing him to do work that he’s against?

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:26 PM

    “The Open Societies Foundations is funded by US billionaire George Soros – a major backer of liberal causes around the world” and they aren’t liberal but self serving. Anyone asked Soros what he did during WW2???

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:29 PM

    @Alois Irlmaier: he was 14 when the war ended

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:32 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUdosc33eSE
    “George Soros: ‘I Am A God, I Created Everything, I Control America And Hillary Clinton’”

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:35 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Yes…

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    Apr 1st 2017, 1:49 PM

    @Alois Irlmaier: so what are you saying the child did during WWII?

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    Apr 9th 2017, 12:49 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Well at least he got to be born, his abortion victims won’t.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 10:43 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: oh mercy save us all from the meaningless hyperbole of the deluded pro liars…

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    Apr 11th 2017, 5:32 PM

    @Shanti: actually, the people who NEED to be saved are the unborn children which you advocate, can be NOW killed off “pro choice” like, in every abortion…

    Try saving them first.

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    Apr 20th 2017, 7:42 AM

    @Mick Rick Jones: what, at the risk of the health or life of the woman carrying it?
    Get out of here with that thinly veiled misogyny.

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    Apr 1st 2017, 3:49 PM

    The Journal left out the bit where the money was returned last November.

    I wish The Irish Catholic was as diligent in finding out how much money the Bon Secours raised from selling babies.

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    Apr 9th 2017, 12:47 AM

    @DaisyChainsaw: think about todays 1000s of babies being aborted to death now in 2017, ENCOURAGED by SOROS and his tame Irish lackeys and media mouthpieces, an outcome they NOW campaign for, by attacking the 8th using Soros money.

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