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James Reilly lost his seat in Dublin Fingal at the weekend but is still the Minister for Children. Leon Farrell/Photocall Ireland

The cabinet, including the three ministers who lost their seats, will meet tomorrow

Things might be a bit awkward for James Reilly, Alex White and Ged Nash.

THE CABINET IS to meet tomorrow for the first time since the general election result with three ministers who lost their seats all set to attend.

Constitutionally, the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and ministers retain their positions until a new Taoiseach is elected and forms a new government to replace them.

With no clear outcome from Friday’s election it is likely that the current Fine Gael/Labour government will remain on in a caretaker role for a number of weeks and will conduct the normal business of state in the interim.

Tomorrow’s meeting at Government Buildings is due to get underway at 2.30pm.
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Labour’s Communications Minister Alex White and ‘super junior’ Minister Ged Nash and Fine Gael’s Children’s Minister James Reilly, who all lost their Dáil seats at the weekend, will be in attendance.

Discussions are likely to focus on what options there are for forming a new government although many expect that Labour, while remaining on in the interim, will go into opposition in the next Dáil.

The 32nd Dáil will sit for the first time on Thursday week where it is likely that no Taoiseach will be elected.

The house will then adjourn to allow for further negotiations between the parties. The government will remain in place, with Kenny leading it, while this happens.

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    Mute Neil Ward
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    Nov 10th 2011, 8:26 PM

    Not a mortgage holder, and I’m not unbiased, but fair play to the Govt for staring them down

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    Mute Niall Mulligan
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    Nov 10th 2011, 8:38 PM

    No vested interests either, but I’m even more shocked that at the stance they took in the first place.

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    Mute Frank Buffets
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    Nov 10th 2011, 8:42 PM

    Like It takes guts to do that when the bank is state owned! Give yourselves a salary increase for help with our spin.

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    Mute Ballyer Rules
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    Nov 10th 2011, 9:40 PM

    The PTSB are the biggest gangsters in this and are gettin away with it. They increased the rates 3 times recently and although they will be reducing this .25% they are still by far the dearest.

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    Mute Gavin McDonnell
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    Nov 11th 2011, 4:14 AM

    I think you’ll find Ulster bank are the most expensive at 5.1%

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    Mute Pete Gibson
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    Nov 10th 2011, 8:19 PM

    AIB only exists because stupid taxpayers pay their bills.

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    Mute Rod McAlpine
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    Nov 10th 2011, 8:19 PM

    I can not believe that they are getting away with this. The Bank has 3,000 employees it does not need and coupled with a host of branches that should be shut the cost to the tax payer is truly astronomical. recent salary increases on top of inflated salary levels add to the pension fund cost.

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    Mute Johnny Zillion
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    Nov 10th 2011, 8:54 PM

    Why is the EBS rate 1.5% higher than AIB and they are merged institutions?
    The EBS borrowers are being excessively penalised….

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    Mute Derek Turner
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    Nov 10th 2011, 9:57 PM

    I think every aib or bank worker on the journal is giving the thumbs down

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    Mute Frank Gallen
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    Nov 10th 2011, 10:57 PM

    What recent salary increase would that be?

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    Mute Ryan Murphy
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    Nov 10th 2011, 11:45 PM

    I started with EBS, some years ago when they were among the cheapest on the market, and I liked the whole idea of a mutual. Because of the race to the bottom, driven in part by Anglo, AIB were at one (later) point the second cheapest on the market for mortgages, and this received some publicity, with the IT publishing a comprehensive “scoresheet” as it were of the rates available at that time-late ’06 or very early ’07.

    So I called into them, just before the whole thing went South, and, like the guy on the bus, I didn’t know what a tracker mortgage was, but they offered me one, as well as the (declined by me) chance to buy another investment property, or take an ‘oul holiday.

    Happily I took it, and even happier, they took on board a ridiculously high valuation of my family home, giving me a loan to value that bore no relation to reality. I still have that-and am gladdened by the fact that those on variable rates are getting a bite of the cherry-I could still be there myself but by chance.

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    Mute Conor Heffernan
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    Nov 10th 2011, 8:42 PM

    if every aib account holder withdrew their deposits and moved them elsewhere, they’d get a rude awakening!

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    Mute David Cullen
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    Nov 10th 2011, 9:11 PM

    The Dutch did this a fews years ago over bonuses to top staff. They gave them back More power to the people

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    Mute Stephen Watson
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    Nov 10th 2011, 8:45 PM

    They didn’t rise rates in the first place like all the other wanks. People should do some research before judging.

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    Mute Paddy O'Reilly
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    Nov 10th 2011, 9:30 PM

    People are just looking for money for nothing, now they are getting a better rate than before the ECB increases.
    The ESB is state owned but does not entitle people to free electricity, why should it be different with the banks.

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    Mute Derek Turner
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    Nov 10th 2011, 8:42 PM

    Still doesnt stop them giving there staff a pay rise

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    Mute cyberbams
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    Nov 10th 2011, 11:13 PM

    I think it was quite reasonable that if AIB didn’t pass on the recent rises, they should not have to pass on the cut. This turn around seems totally illogical to me. Nice for those affected & good luck to them but nevertheless quite daft!

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    Mute Eoin Faz
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    Nov 10th 2011, 9:32 PM

    Wow great, lucky us – taxpayer to pay back reckless mortgage holders loans

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    Mute Eoin Faz
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    Nov 10th 2011, 9:54 PM

    This is a direct transfer of cash from depositors to mortgage holders

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    Mute Rommel Burke
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    Nov 10th 2011, 11:12 PM

    Is there anything stopping the banks from raising their rates in say a months time, irrespective of any change in the ECB rate? It never seems to stop PTSB as far as i can see.

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    Mute Frank Gallen
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    Nov 10th 2011, 10:53 PM

    Great stuff, with govt interference like this how do they hope to get private investment in order to get the NPRF’s investment in AIB back? Very short sighted decision, especially given AIB never passed on the last two increases.

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    Mute willy pearse
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    Nov 10th 2011, 10:03 PM

    You couldn’t make this stuff up

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    Mute Niamh Byrne
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    Nov 10th 2011, 11:25 PM

    Yeah but if you raise interest rates it pushes more people into the cannot pay bracket and so we end up paying anyway, at least this makes repayments more affordable.

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    Mute Eoin Faz
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    Nov 11th 2011, 1:17 AM

    More likely it pushes them to restructure or sell. Banks should not be in the business of giving away money.

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    Mute Oran Drumgoole
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    Nov 11th 2011, 2:45 AM

    Why does it feel wrong that banks are passing on a saving to customers ?

    Oh no, wait a second ……

    News flash – Banks claim PR error and state that it should of read raise rates by 0.25%. The error is set to cost taxpayers a Further 10billion for some reason but banks have decided the double the rate increase to 0.5% because a senior exec was afraid they mightn’t be able to fund the regular replacement of the gold chairs that they use while at their weekly meetings in their ivory tower in the Bahamas.

    Instead of posting the new rates in papers banks have simply setup a very easy system in every branch to accommodate these new costs. All customers of the branches should empty their pockets into barrels that are marked “slush funds”. An Taoiseach should simply sign a blank cheque (as they might need more the 10bil, you never know) and make it payable to cash or C#^?s , either way the ecb will know who it’s for!

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