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AP

China could be slipping into a crisis 'far bigger than anything in Greece'

More than half of companies have suspended trading on the stock market.

ASIAN STOCK MARKETS have tumbled again this morning as a collapse in Chinese shares began to contaminate other markets, and after European leaders slapped Greece with a deadline to submit fresh bailout reform proposals.

With markets buffeted by two global crises, traders ran for the cover of investments considered safe in times of upheaval such as the yen.

Shanghai plunged almost 7% and Hong Kong lost 4.74% soon after opening, despite Chinese leaders announcing fresh measures to staunch a correction that has wiped trillions off the country’s markets.

By late afternoon both were down in the region of 5%.

The South China Morning Post reports that 51 per cent of mainland Chinese stocks have asked for voluntary suspensions from trade.

Most other regional markets – Toyko, Seoul, and Sydney – were also hit by the spillover effects, with many hosting companies with links to China.

“China’s stock market rout is now spreading to other financial markets, creating a sweeping sense of panic and liquidity crunch,” said Zheng Ge, an analyst at Wanda Futures Co.

Shanghai is down more than 30% from its closing peak on June 12, when it had risen by more than 150% in 12 months in a borrowing-fuelled frenzy enhanced by hopes for economy-boosting government measures.

However, analysts said new restrictions on margin trading and concerns about the overvaluation of many stocks have forced mainland investors — mostly individual retail traders — to cash out.

There are now fears that the hammering to stock markets will hit the wider Chinese economy, the world’s second biggest, which is already struggling with slowing growth.

Wednesday’s falls came despite the government announcing new measures to support the market.

Alex Wong, Hong Kong-based asset-management director at Ample Capital, added:

Gradually this will drag other markets lower because the magnitude of a China crisis would be far bigger than anything happening in Greece.

- © AFP, 2015additional reporting by Business Insider.

Hold onto your hats: there’s to be ANOTHER European summit this coming Sunday to discuss Greece >

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    Mute michal heba
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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:19 PM

    The woke labour needs to go, ppl of ireland, vote
    anyone bar the current ppl in government, let’s stop this madness

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    Mute KL M
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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:41 PM

    @michal heba: the opposite of woke is ignorant.

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    Mute Michael Carr
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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:42 PM

    @KL M: correct

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    Mute Marvin Dollery
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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:47 PM

    @KL M: The opposite of “woke” is “common sense”.

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    Mute JP
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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:48 PM

    @KL M: You need to be moving to the next fashionable mindset…woke has had its day.

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    Mute Marvin Dollery
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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:50 PM

    @JP: Correct. They spend their days perpetually offended. It’s no wonder they don’t leave their childhood bedroom.

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    Mute Frank Mc Carthy
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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:51 PM

    @JP: woke died Nov 5th in the US election thankfully

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:18 PM

    @michal heba: Fianna Fail reared you, gave you milk

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:32 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: you wouldn’t know what woke actually means if you fell over it. Hint- it doesn’t mean everything you don’t like

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    Mute Jack Hayes
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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:39 PM

    @michal heba: ‘The woke Labour’… Oh dear.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:49 PM

    @Fintan Pox: dream on

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:49 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: buy, a dictionary.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:49 PM

    @Faejit Balloobas: What an apt username.

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    Mute Brian
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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:52 PM

    @Frank Mc Carthy: Ha ha .You’ve been blabing on all weekend how you’d vote for Charlotte Fallon( no offence to the lady,) .. how much more woke can you get ? You’re such a confused lil troll all the same..lol.

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    Mute Frank Mc Carthy
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    Nov 24th 2024, 8:13 PM

    @Brian: trolls be trolls I guess???…. Charlotte Fallon has more ‘uumph’ than you’ll ever have…. nothing WOKE about her at all

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    Nov 24th 2024, 8:20 PM

    @KL M:
    Opposite to woke is a Grown up.

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    Mute Sickof thisshit
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    Nov 24th 2024, 8:37 PM

    @KL M: Your comment is exactly that.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 8:40 PM

    @H Woo: Ha ha, quite the opposite

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    Mute Brian
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    Nov 24th 2024, 8:41 PM

    @Frank Mc Carthy: I’ve all the respect in the world for the woman.. but I’m not going around like some woke nutter all weekend blabbing on about how I’d vote for her .. You’re a confused lil hypocrite Ken. Woke one minute .. Misogynistic sexual predator fan boy the next. At least the other trolls on here a constantly one thing .. you try to hard to pretend your normal.. thats your problem Ken.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 9:38 PM

    @michal heba: the utter idiocy of this comment. The Labour Party just secured a massive majority a few months ago. Why should there be another election? Cos you don’t agree with them? Tough that’s democracy

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    Nov 24th 2024, 9:46 PM

    @michal heba: as the experience in the UK shows, nothing will change. Parties can promise all they like, but when they get into power and see the books, deal with the institutions of govt, when reality bites… Nothing changes. Especially true in the UK where no party has the balls to admit Brexit is an ongoing disaster

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    Nov 24th 2024, 11:19 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: The opposite of woke is turning a blind eye, if you actually bother to research where the term woke came from

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    Nov 24th 2024, 11:27 PM

    @Fintan Pox: ff destroyed this country, I was reared by Poland until I was 20,then moved here and worked 7 days a week x 20 years now i, 2-3jobs ,owner of a business, employing 5 people,it’s mee rearing ff you should say , out of my taxes .

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    Nov 25th 2024, 1:03 AM

    @michal heba: Living here twenty years and you can barely speak English.

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    @Ollie McGlinchey: Don’t worry about my English pal.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 3:54 AM

    @KL M: The opposite of woke, is common sense, intelligence and ‘living in the real world’.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 3:57 AM

    @Tom O’ Donnell: The opposite of Woke is common sense, intelligence and living in the real world. Not a world of confused disturbed thinking.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 7:54 AM

    @KL M: I think it refers to both.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 10:23 AM

    @KL M: the opposite of woke is Real Life.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:43 PM

    @Frank Mc Carthy: So did the long term future for democracy and equality. By the looks of the people he is placing in power anyway.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:44 PM

    @Éamonn O’Kane: He can Google it for free!

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:46 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: Insults or attempts at them as usual. If anybody disagrees with you they get insulted.
    As a distraction of course as once again you have been called out correctly!

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:48 PM

    @Brian: She pointed out the FG led governments have repeated reneged on promises made to the disability community.
    The largest minority community in the country at 22% of the population.
    Enda did it, Leo did it and Simon has done it.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:50 PM

    @Tom O’ Donnell: He will never do that, he likes to think he knows everything and when it is pointed out to him he is wrong. He goes straight to insults!

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:52 PM

    @michal heba: You re wrong, Woke is nothing to do with Taxation. It is to do with equality and inclusion.
    A country for everybody, not run by the church or for profit for corporations.
    Where people can make money and help for those who cannot.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:23 PM

    But…but… we’ve been in control for 14 years…Starmer isn’t playing the media game…The Daily Heil and Telegraph aren’t getting the same number of clicks…Cleaning up after 14 years of cuts and pillaging isn’t fun. Let’s make it stop with another election.
    We want the good old days of the Windrush scandal, mini budgets, PPE contracts for our mates paid in advance that they never have to fulfil, a different fascist as Home Secretary every years.
    We ploughed (pun intended) all our wealth into land so it would be inheritance tax free, now we have to pay half the rate normal people have to pay on it?? Taxes are for little people

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:05 PM

    @Ronan Mc: spot on

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    Nov 24th 2024, 8:38 PM

    @Ronan Mc: you really nailed the average conservative in the Chelsea tractor and even more so the high end ones like Clarkson who admitted that he only bought the farm to avoid inheritance tax.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 9:45 PM

    @Ronan Mc: As soon as he came power he went back on everything he promise . He took thousands worth of hand outs while people are struggling to feed themselves and heat their homes . The first people to suffer were the old age pensioners when he took away the winter fuel allowance while giving train drivers that were on a four day a week a massive pay rise. The man is no leader .

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    Nov 25th 2024, 5:33 AM

    @Jack Moss: Jack’s back …

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    Nov 25th 2024, 11:51 AM

    @Gaelactico:

    Have Peter and Ronan ever been out of Ireland ?

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    Nov 25th 2024, 12:04 PM

    @Gaelactico:

    How are things going in the EU?

    Germany pays for Europe. It is the sponsor of the entire European project. No one can replace the Germans.

    Starmer was cosying up to EU leaders in recent weeks….I think they are missing UK………cash.

    We see Sir K.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 1:26 PM

    @Ronan Mc:

    Reeves budget.

    Rain Newton-Smith, chief executive of the Confederation of British Industry (CBI), said profit is “not a dirty word” because it underpins firms’ ability to invest, but the Government’s actions have hampered that.

    Jobs will be lost
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    2million + are marking Labours card

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:57 PM

    @Jack Moss: They put a means test on the heating allowance which is done in most countries.
    The Tories agreed the deal with the train drivers but kept it quiet until they were gone.
    they hid a massive hole in the public finances and wasted £240 million on Rwanda and the PPE scandal is good for another £10 billion, mostly to their friends and supporters.
    So it is not his fault the state the country is in.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:58 PM

    @Pat MCCormick: EU is fine, not perfect but working!

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    Nov 25th 2024, 7:17 PM

    @Gary Kearney:

    Sure it is.

    Youth unemployment 14.8%.
    PMI below 50.
    Euro in trouble.
    German industry in trouble. Job losses across sector
    Germany Gov collapse
    French no confidence in Barnier

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:35 PM

    Two tier Justice system in UK. Manchester Airport incident where lady officer had nose broken and other police assaulted by two assailants is one example. Still no charges brought.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 8:28 PM

    @Oliver Cleary: like Jimmy Savile

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    Nov 25th 2024, 8:17 AM

    @Sean Jackson: Why you like jimmy?

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:31 PM

    Keep it Quiet – BREXIT – How’s that working out. Sounds like a brilliant decision

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    Nov 25th 2024, 11:18 AM

    @Tim Brennan: they were lied to and deceived. The Conservative Party told them it would stop out of control immigration, but it didn’t.
    The people now know that you wont stop this out of control immigration in any sort of democratic way. Economically, they are about on par with us. So staying or leaving the EU didn’t matter that way. Their rents are high, taxes are high and income is mediocre, like us. The one thing they have on is is their car prices which are a lot lower. The people of the UK were sold a lie about brexit. They could stop illegals is they wanted to, just like Australia does at their coast. Send the dingy boast back where they came from. Instead they let them in like you would let your grandparents into your house for Christmas dinner.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:51 PM

    Must have got a million Tories to sign but that still leaves 68 million that didn’t sign the petition.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:27 PM

    @Chaotic State: all the “stop the boats ,we want our empire back,In my day”
    When did people in some of the most deprived areas of England start voting tory?
    The labour party is about as left wing as our own labour party here.
    People being told there is no money by a man in a £10,000 suit .

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    Nov 25th 2024, 11:42 AM

    @Chaotic State:

    The maths;

    48.2 million registered voters in the UK. ( only over 18 year old can vote).

    Labour elected by 9.7 million

    That is only 20% of the electorate.

    It’s important to understand the figures.

    Yes it’s the UK system.

    Maybe you should spend time thinking of Friday 29th

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    Nov 25th 2024, 11:47 AM

    @Chaotic State:

    Keep up. 2 million + now.

    Why don’t you look beyond UK and find out what is happening in France and Germany for starters.
    Or even Ireland.

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    Nov 26th 2024, 2:12 PM

    @Chaotic State:

    Have you managed to figure out how UK Parliamentary Petitions work. Try;

    @HoCpetitions

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    Nov 27th 2024, 7:43 PM

    @Chaotic State:

    2.8 million so far

    Parliament will debate this petition

    Parliament will debate this petition on 6 January 2025.
    You’ll be able to watch online on the UK Parliament YouTube channel.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:19 PM

    Urgently needed. The UK is in dire straits since that little crooked clown took over. We think things are bad here, England has become the woke laughing ground of the world.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:24 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: and yet GBP keeps going up in value against the Euro, odd that.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:27 PM

    @Paul Fahey: What’s odd about it? Happens all the time. It’s cyclical.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:39 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: you’re obsessed with woke and weather. This particular petition has got nothing to do with perceived wokeness, it’s about the usual stuff – taxes, benefits, and alleged corruption

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:40 PM

    @Paul Fahey: No, it hasn’t , GBP has traded sub 1.20 since Brexit and only recently breached that due to the Euro weakness, and prior to Brexit it traded comfortably in the 1.30 to 1.40.

    Odd that you think it’s going up

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:42 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: What’s woke? Go on, tell us.

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    @Kevin Kerr: I’ obsessed with nothing, son. This is my first time mentioning the word. Easily known you’d get “triggered” so easily.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:48 PM

    @Paul Fahey: Ya and the UK isn’t a basket case .

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:49 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: leave my stalker alone…… All them woke lefties are still smarming from that smackdown the American voters delivered Nov 5th, lol

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:21 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: so nothing to do with the 14 years of Tory misrule then ?

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    Nov 24th 2024, 10:01 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: how’s that Tory c#@k taste?

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    Nov 24th 2024, 10:52 PM

    @Paul Fahey: the pound is being propped up, it’s vastly overvalued, I speak with an English foreign exchange company when buying sterling and they say it all the time

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    Nov 24th 2024, 11:48 PM

    @Justin Mcnulty: I wouldn’t know at all. You’d have to ask your boyfriend. Are you enquiring or something? Sounds like it.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 10:35 AM

    @Marvin Dollery: Bet you don’t even know what woke means. You’re just a parrot.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:59 PM

    @Marvin Dollery: Please learn what woke means!

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:19 PM

    Bring back boris,comedy factor completely got out of uk politics and now that the comedian trump is back we might as well get boris as well

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:56 PM

    @Jb Walshe: Ideally you would prefer the village idiot and the leader of the country to be two different people.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:06 PM

    @Big rob: rarely the case nowadays rob,anyway we could all do with a good laugh

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:33 PM

    @Big rob: Great comment. Touche.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 3:59 AM

    @Jb Walshe: Where is the new Maggie Thatcher?

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:30 PM

    Starmer is just another Tory. Warmongering elitist, who is happy to spend billions to aid genocide in Palestine, while cutting fuel allowances for pensioners back home.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:49 PM

    A million Tories want an election , wgaf.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 12:13 PM

    @Pork Hunt:

    2 million

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    Nov 25th 2024, 7:58 PM

    @Pork Hunt:

    To understand what is happening Google Gov.Uk Parliamentary Petitions.

    2.4 million now marking Labour’s card.

    How do you protest in Ireland….or is all well and fine.

    Haha 29th looms…..

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    Nov 26th 2024, 2:18 PM

    @Pork Hunt:

    2.6 million

    If you really want to understand the procedure go to

    @HoCpetitions

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:29 PM

    Buyers remorse

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:36 PM

    @Oh Mammy: 1 million uk voters are hard of thinking out of a population of nearly 70 million.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 4:00 AM

    @Faejit Balloobas: What a hilarious name. What’s your real name? Hahahahah

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    Nov 25th 2024, 12:19 PM

    @Faejit Balloobas:

    Ah Mammy Faejit is upset.

    Maths not their strong point.

    48.2 million registered voters
    9.7 million voted Labour

    That is only 20% of the electorate.

    Labour Gov on the naughty step.

    Stopped Winter fuel allowance.

    Increased tax by the back door employers NI.

    Jobs being lost

    Economy tanking

    Small farmers being put out of business

    Ah mammy what will we do on Friday 29th

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    Nov 25th 2024, 3:02 PM

    @Pat MCCormick: You are twisting the data to suit yourself. Brexit is the same. They won the vote but only a mall amount of people voted.
    Their system is FPTP and that is how it works there.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 7:30 PM

    @Gary Kearney:

    Brexit referendum.

    Turnout average 72%…over 90% in some places.

    Leave 17, 410742
    Remain 16, 141241

    Don’t know where you get your information.

    Yes UK system is First Past the Post.

    That doesn’t mean my stats about the GE are wrong.
    The petition is a protest about the
    Labour Gov.

    It seems to be upsetting the right people so?

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:30 PM

    Two-Tier Keir is now deeply unpopular despite only being in power a few months now. He has an approval rating of 23% and the Tories have already overtaken Labour in the polls for the next general election in a remarkable turn around in fortunes. At least the Tories have a proper Conservative in charge with Kemi Badenoch instead of the centre-left establishment leader Rishi Sunak as well as the Leftist clown in sheep’s clothing Boris Johnson. The most interesting thing that came out of the recent Sky News poll is that none other than Nigel Farage is the most popular political leader in the UK. They have been polling at 20% for the past three months consecutively. This seems to show that the two-party system that has dominated Britain since after World War II may be coming to an end.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 8:42 PM

    @Frank O’Hara: You said in your first few sentences, a few months. How many signatires are from overseas?

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    Nov 24th 2024, 9:50 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy: It doesn’t matter. There have been many examples of governments that have fallen within a few months of getting into power because of the their sheer unpopularity. Thanks to Starmer’s sheer unpopularity, Labour have blown a nearly 15 point lead in the polls against the Tories and are now 2 points behind which is unheard of in a relatively short period of time.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 10:03 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy: Russian bots and Elon musk bots mainly

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    Nov 24th 2024, 10:25 PM

    @Justin Mcnulty: That’s a wild presumption which has no sort of merit. What’s your proof that “Russian bots” and “Elon Musk bots” are driving this petition? Also, Elon Musk runs a bot farm now? I thought he would be too busy making the world a better place with all of his excellent innovative inventions.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 3:24 AM

    @Frank O’Hara: “Too busy making the world a better place” .. hilarious.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 10:30 AM

    @Pablo: What have you done which is comparable to Musk? He helped create so many wonderful inventions and companies. He created Tesla, which provides innovative electric cars that harnessed the power of lithium ion batteries for the first time, allowing for range of over 200km which was historic. He created Starlink, which helps poor people connect to the internet. He created PayPal, which revolutionised the world of money by allowing people to engage in digital money transfers for the first time. He created SpaceX, which builds rockets and flies them into space for 1/10th of the cost of NASA and has replaced them as the main space exploration body in the world. I’m guessing that you haven’t done anything close to that so please pipe down punk.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 2:51 PM

    @Justin Mcnulty:

    If you bother to read the terms of the petition…..it is run by Parliament so policed.

    Call a General Election

    Only British citizens or UK residents have the right to sign

    2.2 million now.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 7:47 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy:

    Brian the petition is an Official Parliamentary Petition. Check it out.

    It’s a procedure introduced by Blair.

    ( I’d guess Starmer will scrap the procedure when he gets a chance)

    Call a General Election

    Only British citizens or UK residents have the right to sign

    The fourth day and at 2.4 million now and upsetting alot of people.

    Of course it’s a protest….marking Labour’s card on their abysmal performance so far.

    ( the rejoin EU 6 petition million signature took 6 months to reach that number)

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    Nov 26th 2024, 12:08 AM

    @Brian D’Arcy:

    This petition is run by UK Government and Parliament. Google if you want to find out the procedure.

    Can be signed by British Citizens and UK residents.

    Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate.

    2.5 million signatories so far.

    It’s a protest at the shambles Labour have created in the last 5 months.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:37 PM

    Well the Conservatives were incompetent baboons… thet left the economy in the sewer… cant blame Labour for that.. pig in a poke…

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    Nov 24th 2024, 11:21 PM

    So another vote on Brexit 5 years later is ignoring the people’s voice but another election 3 months later is fine. Right wing logic

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    Nov 25th 2024, 7:02 PM

    @FoxyBoiiYT: That’s the beauty of it. The right are using the left logic against them.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:46 PM

    How many people are living in the UK.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 6:53 PM

    @Daniel Roche: You mean – how many people in the UK can a petition reach.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 7:50 PM

    @Marvin Dollery:

    48 million registered voters.

    This is a Parliamentary Petition….system introduced by Blair.

    Of the 48 million 9.7 million voted for this Government.

    The petition now at 2.4 million is a protest to mark Labour’s card ….re their abysmal performance so far

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:18 PM

    No need for election here, the mighty Fianna Fail will win, always

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    Nov 24th 2024, 7:49 PM

    @Fintan Pox: your gone after next week

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    Nov 24th 2024, 10:15 PM

    @Alan Moloney:
    Keep dreaming.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 11:44 PM

    4 times that signed the petition to overturn Brexit. This one will be ignored also.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 11:41 PM

    @john murray:
    The petition to overturn ( democracy) Brexit gained 6 million names over 6 months.

    This petition 2.5 million in 4 days. It is a protest over the shambles Labour have created and to mark Labour’s card.

    CBI the latest organisation to say..

    ‘Business anger on the increase in national insurance contributions, has been branded a “jobs tax”’

    Petition has gained publicity and embarrassed Starmer so time not wasted.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 10:56 PM

    Labour policy’s are thing of the past they don’t serve the working man anymore, in our country it’s the same they are flogging a dead horse. Black tie economy now.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 1:33 AM

    The Tories taking the loss well then… :-D

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    Nov 24th 2024, 8:00 PM

    The UK is doomed.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 10:51 PM

    @Alex: Doubt it.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 9:32 AM

    Pointless waste of time. Labour have five years to get things on an even keel. I’d imagine their strategy is to inflict maximum pain in the short term with the hope that the corner will be turned a year or two out from the election.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 8:20 AM

    They can sign whatever they like. It wont make a whit of difference. Labour have huge parliamentary majority and can bin it.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 11:51 PM

    @Paul whitehead:

    Labour cannot bin it. Its an official procedure.

    UK Parliament Petitions

    Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate

    2.5 million so far.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 10:50 PM

    It’s not going to happen for at least four years.

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    Nov 24th 2024, 9:33 PM

    No more pain in the ho!e comedy coming from the U.K. . They electorate in the Un-United Kingdom were told that Brexit will bite them hard and now it is biting like a mouse trap stuck on your pinky toe. Besides who are they going to back to? The Turbulent Tories broke the U.K. and U.K. Labour are like the crowd here LIEBOUR

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    Nov 25th 2024, 3:03 PM

    @Tommy: People tell me the problems from brexit are horrific for them.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 7:31 PM

    @Gary Kearney:

    What examples have people told you?

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    Nov 25th 2024, 11:31 PM

    @Gary Kearney:

    So no evidence ?

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    Nov 25th 2024, 8:41 AM

    Ridiculous. Obviously in a democracy there will be winners and losers, you can’t just turn around a few weeks later, and say, oh, my team lost, can we have a replay.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 8:25 AM

    Whoever addresses the uncontrolled immigration of those who hate the West, and the dangerous rise of Islamic demands and threats of those already in the U.K., will win the people’s vote.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 10:33 AM

    One million out of 25 or 30 million. Labour don’t have to worry about the super rich

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    Nov 25th 2024, 12:11 PM

    @Bat Collins:

    It’s a pity not to know the stats.

    48.2 million registered voters in UK.

    Of those 9.7 million voted Labour.

    That is just 20%

    Yes that’s the UK system.

    The new Government have so far only delivered what was NOY in their manifesto.

    Hence 2+ million sign the petition in 3 days.

    It won’t achieve a new GE but will send Labour a message..must do better.

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    Nov 26th 2024, 2:14 PM

    @Bat Collins:

    See
    @HoCpetitions

    To see how Parliament deals with this.

    Tony Blair introduced the Petitions procedure. I bet Sir Kier would love to scrap it.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 3:15 PM

    A blue print for if SF go into government.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 1:08 PM

    Not a whisper of this on the BBC website. Very suspect.

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    Nov 25th 2024, 7:35 PM

    @Always Question:

    You are right to question the BBC non reporting.
    They have finally mentioned it today.
    They report it has over 100000 signatures……..that’s the figure requiring Parliament to address.

    The Petition is actually at 2.3 million but the BBC don’t want folk to know that.

    Illustrates where the BBC are at now.

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