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'Families are living in poverty': Wives of defence forces holding a 24 hour vigil outside Leinster House

The protest will begin today at 2pm with a wreath laying ceremony in honour of Defence Forces members who have died.

WIVES AND PARTNERS of Defence Forces members will hold a march and 24 hour vigil today outside Leinster House in protest at pay and conditions for serving members.

The organisation – WPDF – which was set up in November last year argues that Defence Forces members are among the lowest paid public servants in the country.

At present, the group states that many Defence Forces members are effectively working for less than the minimum wage, and have no method of recourse via traditional industrial relations channels in Ireland.

Speaking to TheJournal.ie, one of the founders of the group Shelley Cotter said that Defence Forces members weren’t being treated fairly by government.

“We’ve got men and women who are the lowest paid public sector workers who were subjected to the exact same cuts at the exact same rate as all other public sector workers during the recession,” she said.

But it decimated an already screamingly low wage and they’re being restored in dribs and drabs.

Cotter said that the effect this is having on force members and their families is huge.

“Families are living in poverty,” she said.

“We have men and women serving in the Defence Forces whose families are the working poor.

They’re serving their country, they’re wearing their uniform with their flag on their shoulder and in essence are working poor.

Cotter said that some members were drawing income supplement while working and that this was “indicative of how the government are feeling about the Defence Forces”.

No one should be in service to their country and qualify for social welfare payments – it should just never happen.

The protest will begin today at 2pm with a wreath laying ceremony in honour of Defence Forces members who have died. It will followed by a march.

A 24 hour vigil will take place into tomorrow morning in solidarity with Defence Forces members working 24 hour duties.

Read: ‘We have no future’ – wives of defence forces march today over their spouses’ working conditions

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    Mute Poole Hyde
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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:30 PM

    Bout as Irish as I am a Rabbi….

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    Mute D H
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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:45 PM

    Sean hannitty is the complete opposite of irishness ….him and that other great irishman oreilly are 2 of the most hateful characters that god ever screwed feet on

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:47 PM

    Ye everyone knows you can only be Irish if you subscribe to a certain political philosophy…

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:14 PM

    Hey if it makes you feel any better most people here are pretty embarrassed by the whole “Obama is Irish” crap too.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:29 PM

    D H, bit of a dumb comment. Can think of plenty more hateful characters than a couple or TV presenters. Tuigeann?

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    Oct 8th 2016, 1:27 AM

    Irish and called one of her kids Tatcher!?!?!,

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:38 PM

    Megyn Kelly . hubba hubba hubba .That’s right, 3 hubba’s.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:05 PM

    @Mr KnowitAll:

    If Trump said that you’d all be bawling your eyes out.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:21 PM

    Guess we know how she got the job.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 6:06 PM

    @A hater: What an ignorant statement! Does your innuendo also apply to Hannity or are you one of those true male chauvinists pigs who thinks women can only progress in the workplace by giving sexual favours?

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    Oct 7th 2016, 6:32 PM

    I’m sure he’s referring to her outstanding C.V.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 9:27 PM

    You’re probably right given what’s happened to Roger Ailes at Fox. All these bimbos banged and blew their way to pundit fame.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:36 PM

    As a country, we should be able to sue bigoted clowns like Hannity for defamation. Either that or invite him here, so that we can take turns kicking him in the nuts!

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:44 PM

    Wow so charming and tolerant. At least you practice what you preach….

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:30 PM

    You’re the only bigot here. Please learn what a word means before throwing it around lest you be subject to libel or slander.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 6:01 PM

    @A hater: Why don’t you Google Hannity and add the name Cliven Bundy and see what comes up. Hannity epitomises bigotry!

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:13 PM

    We’re Irish, it’s complicated?
    Typical pathetic a$$ response from an American with Irish roots from several generations ago.
    These people are NOT Irish, they are 100% american

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:32 PM

    Ok I know your position now. I think it’s a dumb one that you couldn’t defend but at least you stated it clearly. Now, let’s chew the fat. If I move to America, am I American? Or would that only apply to my children?

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:35 PM

    A lot of the readers on this would be right at home at Fox News to be fair

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:44 PM

    @Showbiz Babyyy: you’d be more of a Pravda type,i suppose ?

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:33 PM

    You tell em lad you know best sure why even pay taxes just sign on Yeah you tell em bossssssss

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:34 PM

    ‘The pair later made up following a meeting at Trump Tower in New York.’
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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:24 PM

    If that great twitter ignoramous Graham Linehan says you aren’t Irish then you most likely are. Have to laugh at the outrage some here have over Yanks identifying with their heritage. Get over yourselves for a second.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:34 PM

    You don’t see me going on my Anglo-Saxon heritage do yah

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:46 PM

    ^^ Who the f**k is that guy?

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:26 PM

    I agree with you Eamonn. It’s always the ones without a lick of Irish too…methinks they feel their token Irish identity slipping. Gonna have to rely on something else in the meetings, a chairde

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:39 PM

    He’s a blowhard, quick to admonish others that don’t gel with his own myopic, sheltered political biases. I’d destroy him if he held a position longer than it took to delete a tweet.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:19 PM

    About as irish as St Patrick

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:56 PM

    We’ll take kelly. The Americans can have our dumb ass taoiseach Kenny.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:31 PM

    They are about as much Irish as I am Jamaican

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:36 PM

    fekin irish – always trouble!!!

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:59 PM

    I wonder… if you are born in Ireland, that doesn’t make you necessarily Irish, neither does it if you lived your whole life in Ireland, nor if you Irish parents or ancestors. I am curious what makes one Irish or any nationality.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:15 PM

    Ask @James Odin

    I’m pretty sure his one and only requirement is being white.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:19 PM

    Bryan have you been triggered?

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:29 PM

    @Liviu Flore: It’s a very good question. Horses get away without all this stuff, unless they have an Irish passport. Even then they could be of Arab stock born in Riyadh but owned by someone here.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 6:07 PM

    Hit s sore spot?

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    Oct 7th 2016, 7:57 PM

    I would be quite happy for someone to say they are Irish, if they were born here, have lived here or one of their parents are Irish. At least something where they have been exposed to our culture and may have adopted some of the mannerisms, accent, sayings or outlook in life.
    However, having a temper or arguing in public is not particularly or peculiarly Irish and is certainly not a genetic trait passed on for seven generations.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 11:39 PM

    @James Odin

    *yawn* you Reddit trolls have zero imagination. 0/10. Try harder.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:17 PM

    About as Irish as Mahatma Ghandi was! Trump does not like interviews with difficult questions..

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:25 PM

    Hillary flocks to them, as we know. I’m sure you could link me an example of Hillary facing tough questions on a news network. I’ll wait.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 7:47 PM

    @A hater:
    Pointing out a deficiency in one of the candidates does not mean the poster supports the other.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:33 PM

    Some right wing nonsense spouting D4 variant of Irish, sure.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:36 PM

    The same D4 that had the highest support for gay marriage in all of Ireland? All right wing nutters for sure!

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    Oct 7th 2016, 3:46 PM

    Ireland doesn’t have a right wing and everytime someone tries to establish one the so called “anti”-fascists beat them up and obstruct people’s rights of assembly.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:14 PM

    Boo hoo! Poor James Odin is being oppressed everyone. Be super duper nice to him, you know how sensitive and thin-skinned the fascists are.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:15 PM

    @Donal O’Leary: you are making yourself out to be a proper knacker

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:31 PM

    @Bryan Kelly: A certain irony in calling someone a fascist just because they disagree with you
    Such binary thinking is sort of fascist

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:22 PM

    It’s not fascism. There are some admirable elements of fascism. What you’re describing is bigotry and has only been found left of the divide in the past 70 years.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:24 PM

    100% correct James. Ireland has central/left and full on left. Also, antifa have proven to be incapable of rational debate on conducting themselves nonviolentyly. The only political violence in south of the border has been committed by leftists. Destruction of property during gay marriage ref and expected to be a lot more come a referendum regarding the 8th ammendment.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 8:37 PM

    @A hater – can”t think of too many, TBH. Fascism is the 1st cousin of communism. Both are totalitarian, leftwing, statist ideologies, very dangerous for free trade and religious + individual liberty.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 8:54 PM

    @Bryan – honestly I could write the script for you over emoting lefties no matter what the topic. ‘Racist’, ‘bigot’, ‘fascist’. That about covers it. Clowns with tourettes.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 11:38 PM

    And conservatives lose their minds if you use a singular “they” and send violent death threats to children who don’t stand up for a song.

    Yup…it’s the liberals who are overly sensitive.

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    Oct 8th 2016, 1:39 AM

    Sup the whole country except one constituency voted for equal marriage. On other issues D4 is patronising to people who aren’t globalists and uber liberals

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    Oct 7th 2016, 6:57 PM

    Her youngest is named Thatcher, enough said.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:26 PM

    wally will be delighted they made up.. a big p*ss up at AAA headquarters to celebrate.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:02 PM

    Racists! They are no more Irish than that idiot Bill O’Reilly

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    Oct 7th 2016, 8:32 PM

    @JFN – to call someone a racist without any evidence is a disgusting slur.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:20 PM

    Cheers for sticking up for us Graham! Couldn’t do it without you, you channel hopping fairy

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    Oct 7th 2016, 4:35 PM

    Americans…

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:35 PM

    Willing to blow anyone out of the water. Come on, try me. Defend your political opinions or I’ll reveal them as.emotional, reactionary nonsense.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 7:48 PM

    @A hater:
    You follow David Duke on Twitter. Enough said about your allegiances and “political opinions”

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    Oct 7th 2016, 11:44 PM

    @A Hater

    I’ve a question for you.

    Why do you sound like a cartoon superhero? Why do you and your ilk (David Duke fan says it all) always sound like that.

    The pseudo-intellectualism coupled with the absurdly inflated rhetoric and feelings of self-importance speaks of massive insecurity.

    Maybe try and improve yourself rather than just spouting whatever nonsense you get from the former KKK Grand Dragon.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 9:23 PM

    Hannity has gone full Trump. At least Kelly tries to be impartial.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:44 PM

    Horseshite

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    Oct 7th 2016, 5:28 PM

    Seems at this point you can only be Irish if you’re living, working and paying taxes elsewhere.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 9:25 PM

    Out makes me sick to my stomach to share my heritage with these two disgusting pigs.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 9:29 PM

    *It

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    Oct 7th 2016, 10:21 PM

    @Philip – in the disgusting stakes, you’re way ahead of them.

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    Oct 7th 2016, 11:32 PM

    @Squarepeg01: oooooooh, burn…..

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    Oct 8th 2016, 12:57 AM

    Tim Kaine used the same line to explain his interruptions in VP Debate

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