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Morning, Daragh Brophy here at TheJournal.ie HQ, keeping you updated on all the latest from the the ongoing local election results, and the three European election count centres in the RDS in Dublin, Nemo Rangers’ in Cork and the Royal Theatre in Castlebar.
“On the highways and the by-ways and up and down the lanes and the botharíns and into the backlanes of every town and village in the county… We know every one of them. We know the people. They know us.
“We’ll never shut off our phone… We’ll stay with the people. Other parties have forgotten about the people, and they’re thinking about Dublin and they’re thinking about airy-fairy ideas.
“All we want to do is to help the people that are suffering, and if God spares to help us we’ll continue to do that while we can.”
— A quote from a member of which well-known Irish political dynasty, upon his re-election?
Pat Rabbitte’s been asked whether he thinks people who voted Labour in 2011 are due an apology.
Here’s what he said:
“The party made some commitments that it wasn’t able to deliver on.
I’m sorry we weren’t able to deliver on them.
“I would love to have been able to deliver on them. I would love to have spared the people hardship especially those who have borne the brunt of the hardship.”
“I’ll be keeping a million miles away from extreme right wing Euro-sceptics.
I think it’s time we had a far more compassionate Euro-scepticism that questions where the European Union is going without giving different various different nationalities a kicking, because it shouldn’t be about that.
— Luke ‘Euroming’ Flanagan - who’s expected to take a seat in Brussels based on the European exit polls - speaks to Newstalk on the issue of which grouping he plans align himself with.
What now for the Government, based on the ‘clear’ message from the electorate?
Some analysis from our Political Editor…
DURING A TESTY interview with Newstalk late last night Taoiseach Enda Kenny repeatedly said that the government had heard the message of the electorate “loud and clear”.
But why has it taken so long to hear that message given that many of the issues facing canvassers on doorsteps up and down the country over the last few weeks have been well flagged for, in some cases, years?
For example, TDs up and down the country had been hearing and telling the Dáil about some of the most awful cases of medical cards being taken from very sick children and adults for well over a year.
— Mary Hanafin, whose candidacy in the Battle of Blackrock was the subject of controversy and led to a spat with Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin, says she expects she’ll be included in the party’s stats when they’re rounding up their wins in the local elections.
A quick pull-back to look at the wider European view…
While the voting’s been done and dusted here since Friday night, most European countries are only going to the polls today in the EU elections.
Germany, France, Poland and Spain are among the 21 countries voting for members of the European Parliament.
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Social Democratic top candidate for Europe (SPE) Martin Schulz , member of the SPD party in Germany, and his wife Inge cast their votes in a ballot box at a polling station in Wuerselen, Germany [PA]
More from Ming ‘Euroming’ Flanagan from our reporter at the Midlands-Northwest count centre in Castlebar…
We’ve been waiting for 100 years for someone to come along and save us. I think we’ve worked out that no one is going to come along and save us.
“We’ve got to do it ourselves. We’ve got to put our name on the ballot paper and we’ve got to try and change things. Rather than say ‘There’s no one on the ballot paper to vote for. Boo hoo, poor me.’”
Speaking at the RDS, Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams has said the party didn’t have enough candidates to capitalise on the rise in its vote across the country in the local elections.
We didn’t have the candidates, we didn’t have the structure we didn’t have the capacity in many areas.
If we had been able to run more – and we knew this – we would have got more votes. But it’s a building process.
She says it’s a ten year project to rebuild Fianna Fáil in Dublin, and that a doubling of the party’s number of councillors in the capital is a positive outcome from the election.
“I believe those who are elected for Fianna Fáil, the doubling of our representation on the city council, that is going to be good for Dublin and I think it puts us in a good position to build.”
We have some idea of how the top votes will go in each of the three constituencies based on exit polling, but it will be a long time before anything’s decided.
In terms of first count times, here’s the latest estimates for completion…
Dublin: Inside the next hour (around the 4pm mark)
South: Around 9pm tonight
Midlands-Northwest: Not till tomorrow afternoon
That said, don’t get too excited.
Returning officers can’t say anything official until the final votes are cast in elections on the continent…
10pm Irish time.
AP / Press Association Images... Angela Merkel votes in Berlin
AP / Press Association Images... Angela Merkel votes in Berlin / Press Association Images... Angela Merkel votes in Berlin
Oisín Quinn‘s still wearing the chains of office, in spite of losing his seat on Dublin City Council (he remains Lord Mayor for the moment you see, despite the defeat).
Quinn and his Labour colleague Joe Costello (husband of MEP Emer, who’s not doing well electorally) were putting a brave face on for the media at the Phoenix Park this afternoon…
@DaraghBroph (whose knowledge of popular culture appears to have ground to a halt at some stage in late 1983, apparently)
25 May 2014
3:42PM
Some interesting insight from our Political Editor Hugh O’Connell, at the RDS…
“One thing everyone in the coalition appears to be agreed on this weekend is the need for change, renewal, and – according to some Fine Gael backbenchers I’ve been speaking – a reshuffle.
A change-up of Cabinet ministers appears likely in the coming weeks and it could become more radical than we previously thought with no minister safe.
Details of a vote of a different kind taking place in Spain today.
From Associated Press:
Voters in the tiny Spanish village of Castrillo Matajudios, whose name means “Camp Kill Jews,” cast ballots Sunday to determine whether its name should be changed.
Mayor Lorenzo Rodriguez said results were expected late Sunday night after a count of the voting at the village with 56 registered voters about 260 kilometers north of Madrid.
Documents show the town’s original name was Castrillo Motajudios, meaning “Jews’ Hill Camp.”
The “Kill Jews” part of the name dates from 1627, more than a century after a 1492 Spanish royal edict ordering Jews to become Catholics or flee the country. Those who remained faced the Spanish inquisition, with many burned at the stake.
Although Jews were killed in the area, researchers believe the town acquired its current name from Jewish residents who converted to Catholicism and wanted to reinforce their repudiation of Judaism to convince Spanish authorities of their loyalty, Rodriguez said.
Others suspect the change may have come from a slip of the pen.
By the way, in case you missed what Enda Kenny’s been saying at the Castlebar count centre this evening…
Asked about a possible future coalition with Sinn Féin or Fianna Fáil, he said:
Who knows what the future holds in politics? People here are masters in the democratic situation – they make the decisions. We’ll wait and see what result there comes [in the General Election].
He also thinks it’ll be a “humdinger” of an election.
That is, we’ve some news of a tally, from Midlands-North West.
According to RTÉ News, Ming ‘Euroming’ Flanagan and Sinn Féin’s Matt Carthy are close together at the top of the pile (18.6 per cent and 18.2 per cent respectively).
Mairead McGuinness of FG is on 14.8 per cent, while FF’s Pat ‘the Cope’ Gallagher and Thomas Byrne are vying for the fourth seat on 8.9 per cent and 8.5 per cent respectively.
However, heading into the weekend, the candidates have been warning that Euro tallies may not be all that reliable, and the broadcaster notes that the tally comes with a “health warning”.
At the Phoenix Park, outgoing Labour councillor (but still Lord Mayor) Oisín Quinn says he believes the party suffered a backlash as a result of several tough budgets…
That’s a sombre-looking Joe Costello (junior minister and husband of Emer) standing beside him.
25 May 2014
6:20PM
Michael McNamara, a Labour TD from Clare, says it may be time for the party’s entire front bench to go.
“We need our leaders to show some leadership now or else get off the field and clear the way for someone who will show some leadership,” the Clare Champion reports him as saying.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservatives were on course for major victory in European Parliament elections on Sunday, despite gains for the centre-left Social Democrats and the rise of a new anti-euro party, exit polls showed.
Merkel’s Christian Democrats (CDU) and their Bavarian sister party the CSU — who won a landslide victory at the national level last September — between them scored 36 percent, down from 37.9 percent in the 2009 European parliament vote, the polls showed.
Their new governing partners in a ‘grand coalition’, the Social Democrats (SPD), scored 27.5 percent, a strong gain from the last EU vote in 2009 when they won 20.8 percent, public broadcasters ARD and ZDF estimated.
Since teaming up with Merkel, the party has pushed social reforms including a national minimum wage in Germany. It also boasted among its ranks the European candidate for European Commission president, Martin Schulz.
The election saw a new anti-euro party, the Alternative for Germany (AfD), make its entry into the European Parliament with 6.5 percent of the vote, exit polls said.
The AfD celebrated the result as a popular endorsement of its demands, including Germany’s return to the Deutschmark and the orderly dissolution of the euro common currency system.
“The AfD in this election blossomed into a new people’s party in Germany, as a liberal party, as a social party, and as a value-oriented party,” said party leader Bernd Lucke, an economics professor.
Germany, the most populous country in the EU, sends 96 legislators to the European Parliament.
More on those John McGuinness remarks from our Political Editor Hugh O’Connell at the RDS.
Micheál Martin isn’t the only one to be left surprised at John McGuinness’s intervention today.
Several Fianna Fáil people I’ve spoken to today have expressed surprise at McGuinness’s intervention, believing it to be ill-timed and a misread of the general mood in the party after what has been a good local election.
One senior FF person I spoke to agreed that it was “bizarre” for McGuinness to call into question Martin’s leadership at this time.
Follow Hugh on Twitter for the latest from the Dublin Euro count.
25 May 2014
6:53PM
Hi – it’s Susan Daly here with you for the rest of the evening (and into the wee hours, if last night’s frenetic counting is repeated!).
Now a little birdie in the RDS is telling us that there are some indications – and this comes with a health warning – that the 1. 2. 3. of first preferences in the Euros is looking to be Lynn Boylan (SF), Brian Hayes (FG) , Eamon Ryan (Green).
25 May 2014
6:55PM
And we’re not the only one to believe those tallies may be on the spot.
From our Political Ed in the RDS, Hugh O’Connell:
Emer Costello has all but conceded here: “If the indications that are there in the exit poll and the tallies that I’ve seen certainly it does look like it’s going to be a hill that’s that bit too steep to climb.”
Recounts have been the bane of the count centre teams’ weekend…
In Gorey, Wexford a recount has just begun; in Listowel, Kerry, independent Michael O’Gorman has just been granted a full recount because there were just 5 votes between him and Labour’s Pat Leahy for the last seat.
We would like to build count centre staff something like this. Only for ballot papers , not dollars.
Sometimes that happens, the wind isn’t with you and it wasn’t with us on this occasion.
Emer Costello, pictured here with her husband, Minister Joe Costello, at the RDS this evening where tallies and exit polls give the appearance that she might be out of a running for a Euro seat.
I think it’s time to check the state of play with the locals where counting is definitely going to continue into the wee hours – and some are only beginning tomorrow.
Saying that, over two-thirds of council seats are now filled, give or take a recount here and there.
The latest council to be fully filled is Tipperary County Council.
If you’re from Tipperary, you might feel a little emotional, remembering the glory days when there was a North Riding and a South Riding, and two great big ruddy councils to go with them.
All current elected seats are visible on our candidate list here.
Westmeath County Council
25 May 2014
8:09PM
Even though the hashtag #ThingsSlowerThanTheWexfordCount was trending on Twitter last night, Donegal and Longford were in fact slower to get the counts started.
BUT news just in that Donegal has filled the seats in all of one of its electoral areas, Stranorlar.
Hurray! Only 27 more seats to go then in that council….
25 May 2014
8:13PM
A real onslaught of elected candidates just there. The latest count in Meath managed to finish off three electoral area counts in as many minutes – Ashbourne, Laytown-Bettystown and Navan.
Well done, Meath! Fewer than one quarter of the overall 40 council seats to go.
25 May 2014
8:24PM
If – heaven forbid – you are wondering what else in the world, or Ireland for that matter, has happened today, we haven’t neglected you:
They have the right-wing National Front Party take the lead, scoring between 24% and 25% of the exit poll estimates. That is way ahead of the governing Parti Socialiste which is on 14%-15%.
Here at the count centre in the RDS we’re waiting to hear if the returning officer thinks we can complete matters tonight or will be forced to return tomorrow.
Indications are now that the first count to be announced in around 90 minutes will not give Lynn Boylan enough to reach the quota and win a first European Parliament seat for Sinn Féin in Dublin. But she will almost certainly be elected at some stage in the next 24 hours.
SO. Can we expect a first count from all three European constituency areas in Ireland tonight?
The short answer is no.
Dublin will announce a first count result tonight at 10pm.
Prediction: It looks like Lynn Boylan (SF) will not reach the quota at first count, but is likely to be elected first at some point. Tallies make it look like Brian Hayes (FG) and Eamon Ryan (Greens) will take the second and third seats.
South is looking like it will not be able to reveal a first count tonight – but will call a halt to counting at 11pm and restart at 9am tomorrow.
Prediction: Brian Crowley (FF) will do his usual sweep of the top spot, and tallies are indicating Liadh Ní Riada (SF) and Seán Kelly (FG) will take the second and third seats, although Deirdre Clune (FG) might still be in with a shout for the last seat.
Midlands-Northwest is also not going to bring home a first count tonight.
Prediction: However, as much reported, Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan (ind) is in the top polling spot there according to tallies and exit polls. The second seat should go to Mairead McGuinness (FG). The third seat could be a fight between Matt Carthy (SF) and Marian Harkin (ind)
Because the Dublin constituency looks to be the one that will announce some sort of result tonight (although not electing someone straight off), it’s rather busy and buzzy out there.
This is the tally topper Lynn Boylan (SF) just now:
Brian Crowley (FF), who looks set to return as an MEP in the South constituency, is playing it coy to Dobbo on RTÉ One right now, saying the constituency is too big to get a real sense of who is in, but that it looks like Fianna Fáil will take a seat.
Would that be you, enquires Dobbo. Crowley responds:
Well I would hope so. It looks very promising at the moment.
25 May 2014
9:51PM
Marian Harkin, the independent, is telling Miriam O’Callaghan that her team did a tally over the 15 counties that are in the Midlands-Northwest constituency.
She’s not out yet, she feels, although she concedes that she will be fighting for the fourth and final seat with either Pat ‘the Cope’ Gallagher (FF) rather than Matt Carthy (SF).
She says ‘Ming’ Flanagan is well known by his name and has “swept” the tallies. “The tide was well and truly with him.”
Here’s a broader view of what all these wannabe MEPs are fighting towards – a place within the European Parliament.
And here are how the voting groups are looking in the next EP, according to exit polls:
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25 May 2014
10:19PM
European elections 2014: Still waiting for Dublin to announce the results of its first count – South and Midlands Northwest will stop counting at 11pm without a first count, resuming at 9am.
Meanwhile in Castlebar, the easiest way to transport that massive Midlands Northwest constituency’s vote around the count centre is by… supermarket trolley.
And in a world outside the RDS, Castlebar and Cork, Nick Griffin – chairperson of the British National Party – is getting used to the fact that he will no longer be an MEP:
If anyone can tell me how to change my twitter title without losing the account I'd be obliged! ;-) #we'renotgoingawayyouknow
From Hugh O’Connell: “In the distance, a white van drives through the RDS count centre…”
25 May 2014
11:11PM
DUBLIN FIRST COUNT – European elections 2014:
QUOTA – 88,144
Lynn BOYLAN (SF) 83,264
Brian HAYES (FG) 54,676
Mary FITZPATRICK (FF) 44,283
Eamon RYAN (GP) 44,078
Nessa CHILDERS (Ind) 35, 939
Paul MURPHY (SP) 29,953
Emer COSTELLO (Lab) 25, 961
Brid SMITH (PBP) 23,875
Tom DARCY (DDI) 4,022
Raymond WHITEHEAD (DDI) 3,133
Jim TALLON (Ind) 2,244
Damon WISE (Fís Nua) 1,147
The second count will presumably put Boylan into Europe – and the transfer of her surplus will give a better idea of who might capture the third seat (Brian Hayes of Fine Gael still looking a strong chance for the second seat).
This sheet from our Political Ed Hugh O’Connell shows the distribution of the votes from those candidates excluded at the end of the first count in Dublin:
As a matter of interest, when we told you that Cork and Castlebar were shutting up shop on their Euro counts for the night, we mentioned that they had to ‘secure’ the ballots to do so.
What does that mean? See our reporter Orla Ryan at the Midlands-Northwest count:
From Eoin Sheehy, who was in the Cork count centre:
Having started this morning at 9, they were only just finishing sorting an counting Brian Crowley’s votes about 3/4 of an hour ago when I was out there, they hadn’t even started on Ní Riadh, Crowley is an electoral vote hoover! :O
There’s that Nigel Farage, celebrating the rise and rise of UKIP today.
Read about that and other European election results across the EU here.
Ukip party leader Nigel Farage enjoys a pint in the Hoy and Helmet Pub in South Benfleet, Essex, as his party make gains across the country following yesterdays voting in local elections. Gareth Fuller / PA Wire/Press Association Images
Gareth Fuller / PA Wire/Press Association Images / PA Wire/Press Association Images
26 May 2014
1:58AM
Meanwhile, Hugh O’Connell on THAT meeting tomorrow we mentioned earlier:
Taoiseach and Tánaiste are due to meeting tomorrow evening to discuss fallout from the election and a Cabinet reshuffle that looks likely to be much wider than previously expected.
Good news from Dublin Euro count centre in RDS – count five results coming through in about four minutes….
26 May 2014
2:30AM
So here we have it – Mary Fitzpatrick (FF) has been eliminated from the Dublin European Parliament race.
The stats for that fifth count were:
Brian HAYES (FG) 65,132
Nessa CHILDERS (Ind) 59,955
Eamon RYAN (Greens) 59,803
Mary FITZPATRICK (FF) 50,585
The redistribution of Mary’s vote will be, of course, the next crucial stage to decide the last two seats in the three-seater (Lynn Boylan having taken the first one, if you missed that…)
Mary Fitzpatrick and FF director of elections Timmy Dooley saying their goodbyes at the RDS:
Hugh O'Connell
And that fifth count shows just how narrow it all is now between Childers and Ryan:
26 May 2014
2:38AM
From Hugh O’Connell in the RDS:
Extraordinary scenes here at the RDS as Nessa Childers, the independent MEP, takes a huge transfer from eliminated Socialist Paul Murphy and moves 152 votes ahead of Eamon Ryan.
With Fianna Fáil’s Mary Fitzpatrick eliminated it’s a question of where her transfers go. Childers isn’t even in the RDS tonight and her spokesperson says she won’t be arriving at any stage in the next few hours.
26 May 2014
2:50AM
Good news, Wexford.
Your new county council is all set now that Gorey has finished counting.
The distribution of the eliminated Mary Fitzpatrick’s sizeable vote means that we’re in for a lengthy wait at the RDS. Estimates are that we’ll have a result at some stage between 4 and 5am…
Ballymote-Tubbercurry (8) – Margaret Gormley (Ind) Michael Clarke (Ind), Joe Queenan (FF), Martin Baker (FF), Eamon Scanlon (FF), Jerry Lundy (FF), Paul Taylor (FF), Dara Mulvey (FG) Filled
The smell of Monday morning upon us must be a tempting deadline…
Kildare County Council (40 seats) COMPLETED
Athy (6) – Martin Miley Jr (FF) Mark Wall (Lab) Mark Dalton (FF) Ivan Keatly (FG), Aoife Breslin (Lab), Thomas Redmond (SF) Filled
Celbridge-Leixlip (7) – Frank O’Rourke (FF), Anthony Larkin (Ind), Bernard Caldwell (Ind), Joe Neville (FG), Kevin Byrne (Lab), Ide Cussen (SF), Brendan Young (ind) Filled
Naas (9) – James Lawless (FF), Sorcha O’Neill (SF), Seamie Moore (Ind), Darren Scully (FG) Willie Callaghan (FF) Robert Power (FF), Anne Breen (Lab) Fintan Brett (FG) Billy Hillis (Ind) Filled
Sixth count is in for Dublin in the European elections.
No-one is elected yet but there could be an interesting turn when it comes to whether Eamon Ryan or Nessa Childers takes the third seat. It looks most likely that Brian Hayes will take the second…
Brian Hayes has, as expected, taken the second seat for Fine Gael.
HOWEVER, while Nessa Childers (ind) has been deemed elected to the third seat, it would seem that Eamon Ryan (Greens) wants a recount because it was very, very close.
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(Sorry about the caps, we’ve been at this liveblog for 12 hours now).
26 May 2014
4:07AM
There will be a RECOUNT in Dublin’s European election tomorrow, beginning at 2pm.
Eamon Ryan of the Green Party asked for it because he and Nessa Childers were very close for that third and final seat in the constituency.
26 May 2014
4:20AM
To clarify, Eamon Ryan wants a recount in Dublin’s European election after Boylan, Hayes and Childers took the three MEP seats.
He will find out if his wish is granted by the returning officer at 2pm tomorrow in the RDS.
In the meantime, neither Hayes nor Childers are deemed to be elected until that is decided.
So stay tuned.
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We’re wrapping up our liveblog here for a few hours, but will be back with you for the last of the local elections – there are less than 50 seats of 949 to be filled.
And of course, the counts in the South and Midlands-Northwest will resume in earnest.
Goodnight/morning/week to you all.
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Ming is one man representing ireland against the rest of Europe. Do we trust him….yes we do, go ming go and tell them that we are fed up of being pushed around.
Saturday/Sunday voting in most European countries this election,, guaranteeing a higher turnout.
I’m sick and tired of this cutehoorism by the establishment parties of running the vote on a Friday to increase the ratio of the grey vote which traditionally votes FF/FG.
Great to see SF/Ind doing so well but surprised to see so many people still vote for FF/FG/Lab.They financially rape the country for generations to come and keep taking from the most needy in society to do so,empty the country of hundreds of thousand of people over the last couple of years and doctor the live register with the likes of the scambridge to make out they are doing a great job.
They are like cult members that see no wrong in what their leaders have done and continue to do to this country.
We have had so called leaders that are more concerned about the European Union than their own citizens.
Total reform is needed to stop the huge pensions and salaries that these traitors are getting.Kenny,Biffo,Bertie will go down in the history books as the people that sold our country to keep the Euro elite happy.People need to be held accountable for what has gone on.Owe millions and get away with it, owe 160 euro for a t.v licence and get jail………..
Last time I checked the constitution Niall we have General Elections every five years unless a government decides to call one earlier. Nothing unusual in sitting governments getting a slap in mid term elections.
Blueshirts took a hammering (-90 seats approximately), Labour wiped out and massive gains for the left with Independent candidates and Sinn Fein making huge gains.
Roll on the General Election. P 45 time foe Enda!!
Brendan Boyd – Does a bit of hopeful wishful thinking on behalf of his Blueshirt FG/Labour Comrades !
But Brendan – it’s much worse then that a chara , for your Fascist Movement – ye guys are on the way out!
The Citizens of Ireland have woken up and have smelled the coffee bigtime …..
a Chara !
Brendan we are already paying because of your Blueshirt anti people policy. Your lot and your Labour mudguards are worse than Ceaușescu and Stalin combined.
Ciarraioch, despite all that Fine Gael have been through especially with the Garda scandal and the Water Tax, we are still the largest party in the state. Myself, and plenty of others like me, will still vote for Fine Gael in 2016 regardless of what is said or done.
This is the thanks Fine Gael get for putting the country back on track. Can’t understand left wing politics. We would be bankrupt and beyond hope if they were running the country. All our taxes would be put into paying for our inflated Public reps.
Not nearly enough ‘thanks’ for not derailing their centre-right gravy train and top-loading the burden of adjustment on an angry electorate, beyond the leafy snobburbs of south Dublin and elsewhere!!
Sometimes I cannot understand the voters of this country. Such as:
- Voting for a party that destroyed the economic stability of the country. It’s like evicting an arsonist from your gaff for burning down your gaff. Rebuilding your gaff, and then inviting the arsonist back in again.
or
- Voting for a party that destroyed the lives of hundreds of innocent men, women & children with a pointless campaign, of murder, bombing, abductions and terror. Voting for the Shinners is pretty much like spitting on the graves of the innocent men, women & children that were murdered by Sinn Féin/IRA. Even without that, their economic policies appear to be completely empty, with a policy that appears to be sometimes along the lines of “let’s build a money tree!”
“0.51 – We really hope that what we’re hearing about the count in Dublin isn’t true… that we’ll be here until 5am until the other two seats are filled…”
You get what you voted for and the system you use to count.
Most of Europe is done and dusted and gone to bed. Good luck to you!!
Who on earth would thumbdown my innocuous question above?
I have long wondered who the lost souls are who travel around TheJournal.ie and some other websites simply downthumbing people’s comments (no matter what the content of them) in a most illogical manner. Or is it an automated system that is used?
I think the system of downthumbing people’s comments without actually becoming a member of the website or writing a comment of one’s own should come to an end, as it discredits the website as a whole.
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Cookies, device or similar online identifiers (e.g. login-based identifiers, randomly assigned identifiers, network based identifiers) together with other information (e.g. browser type and information, language, screen size, supported technologies etc.) can be stored or read on your device to recognise it each time it connects to an app or to a website, for one or several of the purposes presented here.
Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development 143 partners can use this purpose
Use limited data to select advertising 113 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times an ad is presented to you).
Create profiles for personalised advertising 83 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (such as forms you submit, content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (for example, information from your previous activity on this service and other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (that might include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present advertising that appears more relevant based on your possible interests by this and other entities.
Use profiles to select personalised advertising 83 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on your advertising profiles, which can reflect your activity on this service or other websites or apps (like the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects.
Create profiles to personalise content 39 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (for instance, forms you submit, non-advertising content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (such as your previous activity on this service or other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (which might for example include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present content that appears more relevant based on your possible interests, such as by adapting the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find content that matches your interests.
Use profiles to select personalised content 35 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on your content personalisation profiles, which can reflect your activity on this or other services (for instance, the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects. This can for example be used to adapt the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find (non-advertising) content that matches your interests.
Measure advertising performance 134 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which advertising is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine how well an advert has worked for you or other users and whether the goals of the advertising were reached. For instance, whether you saw an ad, whether you clicked on it, whether it led you to buy a product or visit a website, etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of advertising campaigns.
Measure content performance 61 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which content is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine whether the (non-advertising) content e.g. reached its intended audience and matched your interests. For instance, whether you read an article, watch a video, listen to a podcast or look at a product description, how long you spent on this service and the web pages you visit etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of (non-advertising) content that is shown to you.
Understand audiences through statistics or combinations of data from different sources 74 partners can use this purpose
Reports can be generated based on the combination of data sets (like user profiles, statistics, market research, analytics data) regarding your interactions and those of other users with advertising or (non-advertising) content to identify common characteristics (for instance, to determine which target audiences are more receptive to an ad campaign or to certain contents).
Develop and improve services 83 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service, such as your interaction with ads or content, can be very helpful to improve products and services and to build new products and services based on user interactions, the type of audience, etc. This specific purpose does not include the development or improvement of user profiles and identifiers.
Use limited data to select content 37 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type, or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times a video or an article is presented to you).
Use precise geolocation data 46 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Actively scan device characteristics for identification 27 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors 92 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Deliver and present advertising and content 99 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 72 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 53 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 88 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 69 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
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